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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #90 on: February 15, 2016, 05:48:27 PM »
Princeofdoom, that's true. And it's not always what you expect to be good at either. I didn't expect to write action well, but according to the audience, I do. Where I'm weaker is at depicting the softer emotions and I know I can't convincingly depict characters who are indecisive or full of self-doubt. Possibly this is because I find such characters annoying, even if they are well written. For example, other readers keep recommending the Thomas Covenant stories. I slogged my way through the whole series, because a dear friend insisted that it would all fall into place once I'd read the entire story arc. It didn't.

The tales had many virtues: the language, the author's vocabulary were all a delight. His descriptions, especially of landscapes, have the same numinous quality as Minna's art. He can write completely sympathetic characters, including many of the ones in this tale other than the hero. And I know the redemption of a flawed hero is a traditional theme of great tales. But Covenant is just so annoying! My pleasure in the story is spoiled because I want to pick him up and shake him and tell him that characters more interesting than he is are being destroyed while he ditzes about having an existential crisis.

Not all conflicted characters are so irritating. For instance, Jeffrey Farnol's character Martin Conisby and Shakespeare's Hamlet both hold my interest and my sympathy, even on rereads of the tales. Part of that is the writing skill (especially Shakespeare, obviously), but it's also the interactions of the characters: Martin's interactions with Joan, Joanna and Richard are what makes the stories, even against the background of a swashbuckling adventure story. And while both main characters are morally conflicted and totally confused about what is going on, and the ways they deal with the conflict are very different, both of them follow the rule of 'being himself, what else could he do'.
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2016, 05:58:40 PM »
Róisín: hahaha that reminded me so well of the main character Emil in Gæludýrin (The Pets) by Bragi Ólafsson... he spends the majority of the story hiding under his own bed to avoid taking any kind of responsibility over his life. Meanwhile other people are having a party at his house (the same one where he's hiding), assuming he's just popped outside and waiting for him to return home. It's a great book but I had this growing resentment for Emil and wanted to drag him out from under his bed and scream at him for a bit...
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2016, 08:57:39 AM »
Oh, I'm so sorry, Mélusine! I was out with a fever for a bit and mostly slept during the last two days :( Now I'm just snotty ;)

I like the omniscient POV for fairytales a lot, but for longer stories I want to relate to one or more of the characters, so I agree with Airedome that the omniscient POV is mostly more difficult to read, if not to write.

Sometimes I like the first person POV, but usually the random thoughts popping up and other things that I haven't been able to pinpoint, make me lose my suspension of disbelief. It's probably the same reason I don't like characters' thoughts written out in (limited) third person POV. They can tell other characters about it, or voice it out loud to an empty room, but please don't try to make me believe I can look inside the head of another human/animal/alien/plant when I have trouble knowing what is going on in my own head.

Then again, there are always exceptions and it really depends on the writer and the story what works and what doesn't (and the reader of course). Thankfully, we are all different in our abilities and likes!
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #93 on: February 18, 2016, 01:02:55 AM »
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #94 on: February 18, 2016, 08:00:36 AM »
Alrighty!  I finally finished the prompt!  Check it out. It ended up being 1680 words, so I figured it was better to post it on my blog.  My handwritten version was longer, but I changed a few things when I typed it.  As for colors, it feels more like gold and pink, rather than dark violet.
It was fabulous :D I really like the dialogue, there so many lines that made me laugh!

How is your writer's block? Any better?
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #95 on: February 18, 2016, 05:59:12 PM »
It was fabulous :D I really like the dialogue, there so many lines that made me laugh!

How is your writer's block? Any better?

Yay!  I'm glad you like it!  I think this really helped with my writer's block. :)
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Harry Potter fanfic recommendations
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2016, 11:53:32 AM »
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Re: Harry Potter fanfic recommendations
« Reply #97 on: February 20, 2016, 01:27:56 PM »
I'll second Nightmares of Futures Past, though be warned that the author has been known to go literally years between updates.
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Re: Harry Potter fanfic recommendations
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2016, 12:18:28 PM »
I haven't read too much fanfic, but one I really enjoy is End of the Line (link). It's a crossover with Discworld that takes place after every main character in HP has died. DEATH and the Death of Rats have to help their souls pass on.

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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2016, 12:30:05 PM »
Oh, I'm so sorry, Mélusine! I was out with a fever for a bit and mostly slept during the last two days :( Now I'm just snotty ;)

I like the omniscient POV for fairytales a lot, but for longer stories I want to relate to one or more of the characters, so I agree with Airedome that the omniscient POV is mostly more difficult to read, if not to write.

Sometimes I like the first person POV, but usually the random thoughts popping up and other things that I haven't been able to pinpoint, make me lose my suspension of disbelief. It's probably the same reason I don't like characters' thoughts written out in (limited) third person POV. They can tell other characters about it, or voice it out loud to an empty room, but please don't try to make me believe I can look inside the head of another human/animal/alien/plant when I have trouble knowing what is going on in my own head.

Then again, there are always exceptions and it really depends on the writer and the story what works and what doesn't (and the reader of course). Thankfully, we are all different in our abilities and likes!
I usually go for first person POV because I find it easier to connect with the characters that way. When I try writing 3rd person, the characters and writing are mechanical. I'm working on it though!

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Re: Harry Potter fanfic recommendations
« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2016, 02:17:59 AM »
When it comes to HP Fanfiction I am a complete philistine. The only work I am familiar with is the almost indescribable My Immortal.

Years after its creation debate still rages over whether it's the worst fanfic ever written, or a brilliant piece of trollery disguised as the worst fanfic ever written. It's so horrible that it goes beyond bad, blazes through so bad it's good into so bad it's unreadable, powers through there into just bad again and then finally crashes like a radioactive, dinosaur killing comet back into so bad it's good and utterly destroys it.

The first time I read it I laughed so hard I hyperventillated for ten minutes and almost passed out.

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Re: Harry Potter fanfic recommendations
« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2016, 08:39:37 AM »
i'll put the link in later, but it's called 'the life and times' by Jewels5 on fanfiction.net ; it's basically the best marauder-era (JILY) fic i've ever read.
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2016, 09:25:44 AM »
It's really interesting to see how many approaches and experiences with different styles are out there.

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What is the first thing you can remember writing?
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2016, 09:55:33 AM »
It's really interesting to see how many approaches and experiences with different styles are out there.

Q: I have a question that might be a tad existentialist.
Why do y'all write? What made you start? Was there a certain event or did you always just like it?
What is the first thing you can remember writing?

Why? Free entertainment. : D It's a hobby! And you can do it basically anywhere, any time! For the price of a pen and a stack of paper! (Welllll I guess there's usually a computer involved too, but I'm rather oldschool, so...) Hours and hours of entertainment, hooray! ...So, yeah, I write because writing is fun. And cheap.

I can't remember why I started, because I was writing when I was a kid, too, so I'm pretty sure it was just a case of "I was bored and I felt like trying it". The first story I remember writing was a Pokemon + Legend of Zelda crossover thing with lots of original characters, and the plot was pretty cliche and ridiculous, but I sure was having a good time, and that's the important part. ;p
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Re: Writers' Corner
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2016, 10:06:44 AM »
It's really interesting to see how many approaches and experiences with different styles are out there.

Q: I have a question that might be a tad existentialist.
Why do y'all write? What made you start? Was there a certain event or did you always just like it?
What is the first thing you can remember writing?

Hm, this answer has a potential to be stupid, but...

When I was nine, I've read Eragon, and really liked it (reminder: nine). On the back cover, the publisher claimed that the book was published when the author was twelve, and nine year old me thought, "hey, I could do that too!" Well, that obviously didn't happen, but with time, I realized that I just flat out really like writing, and if I ever managed to publish something, that could be a really cool way to make for a living.

The first thing I've written... It's super terrible fantasy. Like, absolutely awful. The entire thing took place on an island that must've been shaped like a baguette, now that I think about it, and the plot (I have umpteenth version still sitting on my computer! :)) ) was about five girls leaving home under shady circumstances (they were going to fight in a war! they were fourteen! Ten year old me thought that was a lot!) and stumbling upon a plot by an eeeevil witch to gather several myssssterious artifacts, each of them in a land controlled by a different supernatural creature (said creatures lived only in their land, and nowhere else). Our heroines, then, would, in company of a weredragon and a pair of true dragons, travel from one land to another, always east (hence my comment about island's shape), collecting the trinkets before the witch could do it. I'm not quite certain why the witch didn't start collecting them in the opposite direction, starting from eastmost point and going west, but I've never really finished the thing, so I'm not sure if I even thought of it.
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