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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13110 on: December 24, 2015, 05:24:12 PM »
OK BUT REALLY THOUGH this is so important to me. most ~*Strong Female Characters*~ are always so... serious and perfect, y'know? there aren't any female jack sparrows out there. *bangs hands on table* MORE FEMALE JACK SPARROWS

Okay, I want a female Jack Sparrow now.

Sorry if what I said came across wrong. What I meant to say was that Sigrun's goofiness was an obstacle in me warming up to her not because I think all female heroes need to be Super Serious all the time, but because she reminded me of another goofy hero who I honestly didn't like very much. Whereas Goku was a character I liked progressively less the more I saw of him, Sigrun was a character I ended up liking progressively more, and those very traits that started out as a strike for me eventually ended up becoming an asset. Urgh, am I making sense here?
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13111 on: December 24, 2015, 05:26:09 PM »
OK BUT REALLY THOUGH this is so important to me. most ~*Strong Female Characters*~ are always so... serious and perfect, y'know? there aren't any female jack sparrows out there. *bangs hands on table* MORE FEMALE JACK SPARROWS
SO MUCH THIS
like, all the Strong Female Characters are badass 24/7 and I'm just over here like "look, you've figured out the strong-but-goofy male character, surely you can do it again?" Really, there aren't very many female goofballs out there and it makes me sad because most of the ladypeople I know are ridiculous and I don't recognise these characters

Also Tuuri is really important to me. She looks like a sweet lil cinnamon roll, but then she's got mechanic chops? and anger issues, kinda? and I'm just like YES YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL SNARKBALL I SUPPORT YOUR DECISION TO BE BOTH ADORABLE AND A TERRIBLE PERSON GOOD JOB

Urgh, am I making sense here?
Yes. I originally didn't really like Sigrun, because she seemed to make a lot of bad decisions, but now she's wandering into My Queen territory and I'm not sure what to do about it.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13112 on: December 24, 2015, 05:33:35 PM »
lazy8, noo i didnt take it the wrong way!! i can definitely see that. i'm just so relieved to have some goofy and 3-dimensional female characters. even though i thought almost the entire cast of SSSS was female before i started reading. but as you're pointing out, the guys aren't exactly hypermasculine, so i don't even really mind that much because i love them all for who they are aaa
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13113 on: December 24, 2015, 05:40:24 PM »
I originally didn't really like Sigrun, because she seemed to make a lot of bad decisions, but now she's wandering into My Queen territory and I'm not sure what to do about it.

Um, I'd try to help you, but that would require losing my place in the line of people waiting to propose to her.

I never actively disliked her, because I understood from the get-go that part of the selling point of this story was that none of the characters were particularly qualified. I expected everyone to make a lot of stupid mistakes that would be a source of humor, and Sigrun was no exception. It just took seeing her get injured to protect Reynir for me to see her genuinely competent side, even though it had been staring me in the face for quite a while.

i'm just so relieved to have some goofy and 3-dimensional female characters. even though i thought almost the entire cast of SSSS was female before i started reading. but as you're pointing out, the guys aren't exactly hypermasculine, so i don't even really mind that much because i love them all for who they are aaa

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13114 on: December 24, 2015, 05:42:49 PM »
OK BUT REALLY THOUGH this is so important to me. most ~*Strong Female Characters*~ are always so... serious and perfect, y'know? there aren't any female jack sparrows out there. *bangs hands on table* MORE FEMALE JACK SPARROWS

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13115 on: December 24, 2015, 06:21:49 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13116 on: December 24, 2015, 06:23:22 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13117 on: December 24, 2015, 06:28:35 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13118 on: December 24, 2015, 06:55:42 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13119 on: December 24, 2015, 07:08:17 PM »
Female Jack Sparrows... hmmm. I always had a soft spot for Joanna from Jeffrey Farnol's 'Martin Conisby' stories. Admittedly at the end she 'dies for lurve', stepping into the path of a bullet meant for the hero, but up until then she is awesome and quite Sigrunny. Not bad for a character from a story written early last century and set in the 1600s. And she is a playful gadfly to the dreadfully grim and solemn hero. At one point she non-fatally poisons him for fun, because she thinks a spot of puking will unbend him a bit. And she makes one helluva pirate queen.

Then, in a completely different context, there's Cordelia Naismith from the Miles Vorkosigan stories by Lois McMaster Bujold. Less goofy but equally badass, and a female character with depth and with her own moral compass, completely different to that of the mostly male characters around her. That series is full of strong and well developed female characters, actually. Well worth a read. And explores some interesting questions. Like, at one point, Ekaterin (Cordelia's eventual daughter-in-law) is debating with herself about the life of her aunt, who is a history professor, wife, mother and remarkable person, in terms of that whole career/life balance thing, and how women often sacrifice one aspect of life to get the others - it's quite philosophical.

Those stories also explore gender issues in some very interesting ways. One of the major characters is a hermaphrodite, from a race experimentally made that way. And there's a whole novel, 'Ethan of Athos', peripheral to the main story, set around a character from a world where the entire population is male. And a whole lot of exploration of what being freed from the necessity for direct biological reproduction does to the human psyche, sexuality, gender concepts and culture. All in some rattling good yarns. Read them in order, the story is better so.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13120 on: December 24, 2015, 08:17:27 PM »
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I just noticed the header change. Thank you so much Eri! I always appreciate the touches you give to the forum. :)
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13121 on: December 24, 2015, 08:20:34 PM »
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The new header looks nice and all, but it makes me a bit sad that even this forum gets more snow than half of Finland.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13122 on: December 24, 2015, 08:46:38 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13123 on: December 24, 2015, 09:12:57 PM »
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So, how's the snow where you are Vi?
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #13124 on: December 24, 2015, 09:28:10 PM »
So, how's the snow where you are Vi?

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