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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17880 on: December 15, 2017, 03:23:47 PM »
I was also wondering about this scenario for further up the chain, before comments get moderated (or not), when an individual person chooses to pay money (by that I mean their own, without any kind of backer) to post a comment.
I don't quite see (yet?) how the "pay for faster connections" model would actually work with Internet sites that don't handle lots of traffic, and short of nation-grade fake-posting organizations (and, of course, spammers), someone who's just a "commenter" doesn't seem to qualify. You don't reconfigure the Internet's backbone when Contrarian Connor plopped a handful of cash on the counter to upgrade his consumer-grade Internet access.

Speaking of which, I'm not sure that the non-enhanced net access is likely to result in an experience of a slow Internet, either. WFQ or not, in my experience, network congestion tends to result in the low-prio traffic to rather be mostly dropped on the floor. (And as long as Net Neutrality is in effect, everyone is the same prio, and everyone will complain to the carrier whenever it happens, which means that the carriers keep not liking this scenario to happen.) Maybe once the actual lines that the backbone consists of get segregated into straight-to-destination paying-customers-only and NYC-to-DC-via-Alaska good-enuf-4-U ones ...

Things like VOIP exist because small startups were able to plug in to an unbiased internet and get their signals treated the same as everyone else.
FWIW, VoIP (which works with limited bandwidth but is very sensitive to delay and jitter) is the prime example of traffic that routinely gets "express lanes" in the network even today. There are switches, routers, and ISPs which prioritize VoIP traffic by default. It's not nominally a violation of Net Neutrality because the decision is based on "VoIP or not?", rather than "extra-paying customer or not?", but if you imagine yourself as a net user who just doesn't do VoIP, that's not much of a consolation, I guess.

(No contest on the "likely to cripple innovation" part, though.)
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17881 on: December 15, 2017, 09:00:15 PM »
FWIW, VoIP (which works with limited bandwidth but is very sensitive to delay and jitter) is the prime example of traffic that routinely gets "express lanes" in the network even today. There are switches, routers, and ISPs which prioritize VoIP traffic by default. It's not nominally a violation of Net Neutrality because the decision is based on "VoIP or not?", rather than "extra-paying customer or not?", but if you imagine yourself as a net user who just doesn't do VoIP, that's not much of a consolation, I guess.

(No contest on the "likely to cripple innovation" part, though.)

Fair point. I am just regurgitating half remembered info to be honest.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17882 on: December 24, 2017, 03:07:16 AM »
Moving on to lighter... (or heavier subjects, depending on your thoughts). Caught a second showing of TLJ.

Opinion: mixed.

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Honestly, Holdo was portrayed to be a terrible leader. she had no less than two mutinies occur within 18 hours of assuming command, and at least 5 attempted desertions in the first hour, all because she did not explain the plan of action to her command staff.

Even the bridge crew seemed shocked and confused when Poe put it together that they were going to be abandoning the ship in unshielded/unarmed transports. That implies that no one aside from Holdo knew the full scope of the plan.

And when the plan was fully explained to Poe? He actually agreed that it was solid and could work. But the whole Canto Bight plot, the betrayal by the codebreaker, and the first order actually bothering to do a sensor sweep for transports? That could have all been avoided if Holdo had explained the plan. I honestly feel that the filmmakers did a disservice to her character.

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17883 on: December 24, 2017, 08:55:40 PM »
It has ticked across to Christmas where I am, so I'd like to wish everyone here a wonderful holiday season with plenty of fun, laughter, rest and squirrel cookies! :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie:

You are all lovely people and my life is better for ending up here :))

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17884 on: December 24, 2017, 08:57:31 PM »
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17885 on: December 24, 2017, 09:46:26 PM »
It has ticked across to Christmas where I am, so I'd like to wish everyone here a wonderful holiday season with plenty of fun, laughter, rest and squirrel cookies! :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie: :squirrelcookie:

You are all lovely people and my life is better for ending up here :))

Onwards to 2018!  :hat:

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17886 on: December 24, 2017, 10:07:23 PM »
What Iceea said. To all of you. Merry Christmas and a better New Year!
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17887 on: December 25, 2017, 12:11:42 AM »
*raises a glass*  What she said, please!  *air kisses all around*
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17888 on: December 25, 2017, 12:20:23 AM »
Merry christmas! O0

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17889 on: December 25, 2017, 09:09:15 AM »
Merry Christmas! :sparkle: :sparkle:
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17890 on: December 25, 2017, 09:55:28 AM »
Merry Christmas to all celebrating it! and an excellent day to everyone, celebrating Christmas or not.

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17891 on: December 26, 2017, 07:41:05 PM »
That moment when your friend tips his motherboard and the AMD processor falls out destroying several pins.

But everything is okay, we returned it and we finished it.

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17892 on: December 27, 2017, 11:07:58 AM »
That moment when your friend tips his motherboard and the AMD processor falls out destroying several pins.

But everything is okay, we returned it and we finished it.

Why was the CPU not secured?
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17893 on: December 27, 2017, 01:28:57 PM »
Why was the CPU not secured?

It was installed on the board. Unlike Intel, it didn't have a little shield to keep it in its place when we installed it. I guess the heatsink was needed to formally install it. Idk
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #17894 on: December 31, 2017, 07:16:42 AM »
It hasn't ticked over here yet, but I'm not staying up for it, so :sparkle: :hat: :sparkle: <3 HAPPY NEW YEAR! <3 :sparkle: :hat: :sparkle:

Let's make 2018 a good one! :))
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