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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16605 on: October 21, 2016, 07:02:41 AM »
And when he started in on how Latinos have no education my (Puerto Rican) father thought it appropriate to fetch his framed PhD and dance in front of the TV with it.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16606 on: October 21, 2016, 12:19:59 PM »
And when he started in on how Latinos have no education my (Puerto Rican) father thought it appropriate to fetch his framed PhD and dance in front of the TV with it.
Needless to say if Trump is elected I'm going to eat my passport

Someone said in the comments that a Boston Globe headline stated: "Trump is everything wrong with American culture, Hillary is everything wrong with American government."

Kinda have to agree on that. First election for me and...well...I get this. Urgh.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16607 on: October 21, 2016, 02:59:11 PM »
Both are bad... but honestly a sensible person would not give out classified information (nuclear response time) on live TV, or get s

Without getting into the US election here (because that would eat the entire Forum alive), I'll just point out that nothing Clinton said about nuclear response times was classified; the information was widely available and published in a book back in the late 1970s (and was certainly well-known outside that; I knew it back in high school) and published in a newspaper as recently as August of this year.

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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16608 on: October 22, 2016, 04:39:05 AM »
Urbicande, that's true. The error tends to be promulgated by those who get their opinions predigested from Fox News, sadly. 'Don't bother me with facts, I've made up my mind.'
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« Reply #16609 on: October 22, 2016, 05:42:03 PM »
Without getting into the US election here (because that would eat the entire Forum alive), I'll just point out that nothing Clinton said about nuclear response times was classified; the information was widely available and published in a book back in the late 1970s (and was certainly well-known outside that; I knew it back in high school) and published in a newspaper as recently as August of this year.

Urbicande, that's true. The error tends to be promulgated by those who get their opinions predigested from Fox News, sadly. 'Don't bother me with facts, I've made up my mind.'

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That all may be true for a lot of people, however I came to my conclusion about it being classified information based off the reactions of a few retired airmen, generals and a few others who I know personally and respect their knowledge due to being directly involved in nuke policy. The general consensus I've gotten is "I can't confirm how accurate that her statement was, but if I'd said it in that manner (live TV) I'd be dead to the world and in a hole somewhere being waterboarded." Additionally when asked by journalists the DOD (IIRC it was a radio news blurb and I missed who was being asked the question, might've been the white house) didn't kill the story by saying she was inaccurate, or that the information wasn't classified, the spokeshole dodged the question and stated they weren't willing to turn this into a matter of politic by confirming it was classified. (bit of paraphrasing on my part, haven't been able to find the actual press bit)

Final bit, I was digging through FOIA paperwork copies of regarding the Cuban Missile Crisis (It was for a history report and I wanted to be thorough professor gave me an extension because I proved I'd filed a FIOA request) and nuke force Response Times, as late as 2012 (when I was doing the report), fall under a special access program and are limited to a handful of military brass and the following handful in the cabinet: President, Vice President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Homeland Security, Attorney General, Director of National Intelligence, CIA Director, Deputy Secretary of State, Deputy Secretary of Defense and Special personnel designated solely by the President in written form only with a burn after reading mandate. However this policy may have changed since then.


...Regardless, let's not let this spiral out of control.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16610 on: October 22, 2016, 05:49:18 PM »

...Regardless, let's not let this spiral out of control.


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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16611 on: October 23, 2016, 01:37:04 AM »
I made apple crumble today.  What Fall-themed goodies do you enjoy?
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16612 on: October 23, 2016, 01:41:03 AM »
I made apple crumble today.  What Fall-themed goodies do you enjoy?

Ooh, apple crumble! I love crumble, my favourite would be rhubarb for sure. We have a plant growing in our backyard, and while its looking a little sad right now, it grows wonderfully in the summer. Really don't use it enough. I'm planning on making a pumpkin pie next weekend, we have all the ingredients for it, I think. Planning on making the crust from scratch as well. :)
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16613 on: October 23, 2016, 01:48:55 AM »
Ooh, apple crumble! I love crumble, my favourite would be rhubarb for sure. We have a plant growing in our backyard, and while its looking a little sad right now, it grows wonderfully in the summer. Really don't use it enough. I'm planning on making a pumpkin pie next weekend, we have all the ingredients for it, I think. Planning on making the crust from scratch as well. :)

Nice!  Something pumpkiny would be nice to make, I don't experiment with it enough.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16614 on: October 23, 2016, 04:45:07 AM »
Solokov: interesting! What were you studying? Military history or suchlike?

Jethan: that sounds good. Quince paste, suitably spiced, for me, or pears poached in cider, with cardamon and cinnamon!
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16615 on: October 23, 2016, 05:05:54 AM »
pears poached in cider, with cardamon and cinnamon!
That seems very interesting :D
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16616 on: October 23, 2016, 07:24:50 AM »
pears poached in cider, with cardamon and cinnamon!

I don't drink, and that sounds very interesting! :D
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16617 on: October 23, 2016, 01:16:06 PM »
I made apple crumble today.  What Fall-themed goodies do you enjoy?

Fall stuff, for us, means using up fruit from the garden. We freeze it and use it later. So, that usually means pie - either apple or sour cherry. And also zucchini bread.

Oh, and meat pie, usually with venison or pheasant and such.
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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16618 on: October 23, 2016, 02:31:05 PM »
Solokov: interesting! What were you studying? Military history or suchlike?


Nah it was a class on world history and I ended up going for the cuban missile crisis since it's one of those events that affected several countries, some still to today, and had the potential to affect a good chunk of the world.



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Re: General Discussion Thread
« Reply #16619 on: October 23, 2016, 06:13:18 PM »
Er....pumpkin smash? Is that a traditional autumn dish where you are?
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