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What do you think the state of things is beyond Scandinavia?

More of the Silent World: Trolls, beasts and giants everywhere
7 (16.7%)
A few groups of humans, but mostly wilderness
14 (33.3%)
USA and other superpowers are relatively intact
0 (0%)
Scorched Earth: nothing, not even grosslings, is alive
0 (0%)
Plenty of places like Scandinavia, but isolated
21 (50%)

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Voting closed: July 03, 2015, 03:28:37 PM

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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1215 on: April 06, 2020, 12:13:31 PM »
That's amazing! :D

EDIT: Oh, and we should not be surprised that there are survivors in Normandy, when you consider their flag;D
* One of them

Thanks Wrym! And the other flags include lions, that are also immune, so...

That's truly awesome!! Definetely a new headcannon for me x)
Yes, *fiction*. Even in year 90, there would still be quarrels to know which region Mont Saint-Michel belongs to.
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also the flag of Bretagne is way cooler than the Normand flag, just sayin' c:


Thanks, Gaelle! (may I call you just Gaelle?). My headcannon is also loaded with that idea! :D

Those quarrels could be* a good starting point for a story. Imagine that one faction in dominant and lives in the old abbey, while the others live on the lower areas... Peace is nice but usually isn't good fuel for stories. :)

* : Will be! I already have a file name "Mont Saint Michael" on my stories directory. It has just that initial "Asterix" line, but damn that's a great start line!
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1216 on: April 06, 2020, 12:32:43 PM »
"And who would have thought just how invigorating the "herbal tea" can become, when brewed by the crazy, bearded old man who keeps muttering to [insert old Normandian or Breton deity]"?
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1217 on: April 06, 2020, 01:03:59 PM »
"And who would have thought just how invigorating the "herbal tea" can become, when brewed by the crazy, bearded old man who keeps muttering to [insert old Normandian or Breton deity]"?

Already added to said text file, just waiting for the right moment to be infused in the story. Thanks! :D
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1218 on: April 06, 2020, 03:02:24 PM »
Thanks, Gaelle! (may I call you just Gaelle?). My headcannon is also loaded with that idea! :D

Those quarrels could be* a good starting point for a story. Imagine that one faction in dominant and lives in the old abbey, while the others live on the lower areas... Peace is nice but usually isn't good fuel for stories. :)

* : Will be! I already have a file name "Mont Saint Michael" on my stories directory. It has just that initial "Asterix" line, but damn that's a great start line!
Yes, of course you can call me Gaelle! (which is a very Breton name btw, so you know on which side I stand c:)

I love the idea of the friendly Normand/Breton teasing having become a full-on class war in year 90. I can imagine the Bretons keeping all the salted butter to themselves while the Normands claim that they should be the only ones to be allowed to drink cider because it was supposedly invented by a Normand man.

Also wouldn't it be interesting if over the 90 year span, Bretons have come back to using their old Breton language (which is still spoken today, but only barely), while Normands have sticked to French? What could be better than a good language barrier to cause misunderstandings and quarrels, right? ;)

haha sorry, my patriotic breton side is coming out, i'll go back to eat crêpes and Ploumilliau sausages ^^"
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1219 on: April 06, 2020, 08:09:00 PM »
And listen to Alan Stivell?
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1220 on: April 07, 2020, 04:41:32 AM »
Yes, of course you can call me Gaelle! (which is a very Breton name btw, so you know on which side I stand c:)

haha sorry, my patriotic breton side is coming out, i'll go back to eat crêpes and Ploumilliau sausages ^^"

HaHA I was SURE of this ! You couldn't be name Gaelle without some Kouign-amann in your blood !

What could be better than a few separatists on a piece of land lost at high tide? :p
But yeah, the Breton mages may have some peculiarities. Always want to find mistletoe, wearing a white dress and a superb red cape!
The concern of Mont Saint-Michel is that it is really small. Strictly speaking, there would be two Norman and Breton families . If they do not decide to mix the blood, it risks to lead to some inbreeding.

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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1221 on: April 07, 2020, 08:02:20 AM »
What could be better than a few separatists on a piece of land lost at high tide? :p
But yeah, the Breton mages may have some peculiarities. Always want to find mistletoe, wearing a white dress and a superb red cape!
The concern of Mont Saint-Michel is that it is really small. Strictly speaking, there would be two Norman and Breton families . If they do not decide to mix the blood, it risks to lead to some inbreeding.

Thanks, Kyara! I'll take it all in consideration for the story... Let's see if I can make it before the end of this... Century!
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1222 on: April 07, 2020, 08:44:02 AM »
The concern of Mont Saint-Michel is that it is really small. Strictly speaking, there would be two Norman and Breton families . If they do not decide to mix the blood, it risks to lead to some inbreeding.
Mont Saint Michel is small, but I'm guessing they would have been able to welcome more people in by making the old shops and hotels into houses. People could also live in the abbey, like the monks do today.
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1223 on: April 07, 2020, 08:47:40 AM »
Yeah, and maybe over time they could have managed to arrange some foraging on the mainland to supplement the food grown on the island? Still, it would be a small community (well, two small communities). Perhaps some of them could be tourists stranded there who have very different  heritage to add to the mix, Asian for example?

(this is BTW something I feel we should see in Iceland of the comic, blended in a bit by now, but still showing in some of the population. There are always loads of tourists there, some of whom certainly got stuck, and also the NATO base has rotating troops who may have stayed)
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1224 on: April 07, 2020, 10:51:43 AM »
Mont Saint Michel is small, but I'm guessing they would have been able to welcome more people in by making the old shops and hotels into houses. People could also live in the abbey, like the monks do today.

I'm sure that many hundreds would fit. they would have to define some strict rules for mating, to guarantee an adequate mix... That could be a good driving plot for a story...

I'm picturing that one community (the upper class - the "court", officers, doctors, artisans, etc...) would live in the Abbey, while the others (the peasants) lived in the remaining surrounding houses, working mostly on the land (and fishing).

Yeah, and maybe over time they could have managed to arrange some foraging on the mainland to supplement the food grown on the island? Still, it would be a small community (well, two small communities). Perhaps some of them could be tourists stranded there who have very different  heritage to add to the mix, Asian for example?

Surely. Raiding the nearby areas and, perhaps, being in contact (by boat) with other communities to "exchange" people and avoid genetic problems.

I added the following to that start line:

"The year is 90. France is entirely occupied by trolls. Well, not entirely... A small island of indomitable Bretons and Normands still holds out against the infected. And life is not easy for the trolls who inhabit the old ruins of the nearby towns of Beauvoir, Pontorson, Gênets and Saint-Léonard." :)

(this is BTW something I feel we should see in Iceland of the comic, blended in a bit by now, but still showing in some of the population. There are always loads of tourists there, some of whom certainly got stuck, and also the NATO base has rotating troops who may have stayed)

Yes, I agree. BTW I'm sure that said NATO base would be crowded with hundreds of NATO vessels that would reach for the last remaining haven, and there is nothing the small Iceland navy could do to prevent 2 or 3 aircraft carriers, their escorts and a bunch of nuclear subs to arrive.

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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1225 on: April 07, 2020, 10:54:31 AM »
Perhaps some of them could be tourists stranded there who have very different  heritage to add to the mix, Asian for example?

(this is BTW something I feel we should see in Iceland of the comic, blended in a bit by now, but still showing in some of the population. There are always loads of tourists there, some of whom certainly got stuck, and also the NATO base has rotating troops who may have stayed)

There were also full-time second-or-more generation residents whose heritage was from different places in the world.

There's a whole long forum thread on the subject, though it hasn't been posted to for quite a while, partly because we've been requested not to unless there's something new to add to the discussion (read the last couple of pages to get a better idea why.)

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https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=453.120

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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1226 on: April 07, 2020, 02:37:56 PM »
Also in the early days there were quite a few tales built around the ‘hotel survivors’, folk from all over who had been touristS trapped in Iceland when things fell apart, and their descendants.
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1227 on: November 24, 2020, 04:15:50 PM »
That's really cool ruth!
I've been trying one myself since yesterday (over 9000 hours in paintGIMP, do not steal  :P), but I still can't find the right place for the settlements...


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Something's clear though: It shouldn't be bigger than Mora, it should be away from the coast (The most densely populated areas, specially in the mediterranean, after the capital's surrroundings), and it should be In the northwest and north, because of the temperatures. Then there's things like castles, small walled towns, little villages in the mountains... The only two places I've found are Almeida (Portugal) and Ciudad Rodrigo (Spain), one next to the other, and I hope to find something in the Pyrenees...

Care to share any tips?

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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1228 on: November 24, 2020, 08:02:40 PM »
Alas, Headfinder has disappeared from the Forum membership (a little before my time, so not sure if they changed their name or erased themselves entirely), and likely moved their map elsewhere in the meantime as well. 
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Re: Survivor communities outside the known world
« Reply #1229 on: December 02, 2020, 11:29:03 AM »
Sealand might be a good place to ride out the initial storm for a few people.