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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #135 on: February 01, 2015, 12:47:54 PM »
Gaston Lagaffe ? My, you're a man of excellent taste!

M'enfin?
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #136 on: February 01, 2015, 02:47:13 PM »
I must say duolingo despite being painfully easy at the start is really good for me to strenghten my swedish skills. It's hard trying to re-learn things that i should have learnt back in ninth grade and this really helps me get back to the pace of others. First swedish class tomorrow in few months let's see how it goes.
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2015, 02:53:58 PM »
Quote from: FrogEater on February 01, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
Gaston Lagaffe ? My, you're a man of excellent taste!
M'enfin?
Well, all kudos to Franquin, of course ...

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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #138 on: February 01, 2015, 04:42:06 PM »
Aaaahhh.... the cat..... :D
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #139 on: February 01, 2015, 05:27:00 PM »
Quote from: JoB on February 01, 2015, 02:53:58 PM
Well, all kudos to Franquin, of course ...

Thanks!  I'm not sure my little munchkins will understand the workplace humor of Gaston Lagaffe, but cartooning does seem to be the universal language.

Surely there must be similarly approachable comics or books (or cartoons/anime) for German speakers?  All I can think of is the 1930s novel "Emil and the Detectives," which I read in translation as a kid.  The original text might be a little beyond the reach of absolute beginners.

JoB, what were you reading or listening to as a kid?
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #140 on: February 01, 2015, 06:54:59 PM »
Quote from: FrogEater on February 01, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
Aaaahhh.... the cat..... :D
Yes, the cat ... ;D
And Gaston seems to occasionally channel his inner cleanser.
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Quote from: Sunflower on February 01, 2015, 05:27:00 PM
Surely there must be similarly approachable comics or books (or cartoons/anime) for German speakers? [...]
JoB, what were you reading or listening to as a kid?
That's the point, I don't remember anything particularly German and simultaneously "just a fun read". Fix und Foxi, Yps and Lurchi are way pre-teen IMHO, Was ist Was is boring unless you have a scientific interest, Nick Knatterton misses the stated age off the other side. The stuff I'd consider appropriate is all imported and translated, from Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse to Asterix ...
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #141 on: February 02, 2015, 06:24:25 AM »
Hmmm. Erich Kästner's Emil und die Detektive is a classic, of course - as well as Das doppelte Lottchen etc. - but imo the language is a bit outdated, so not easy for learners.

As a kid, I read almost anything I could borrow in the public library... I remember I had an addiction to the TKKG series (it's a bit like the Three Investigators, but with a girl added). A lot of these books were also recorded as audio dramas.

Sadly, most of the books my younger cousins read are translations of English series (Warrior Cats and Magic Tree House...), so I can't recommend anything German that is newer than ~ year 2000.
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2015, 10:52:01 AM »
The Eragon books are kind of ok, have they been written by Cornelia Funke? Not too sure about that. I bingeread TKKG as well. Some books of Wolfgang Hohlbein are good but not all, then there was Klaus Kordon, he did many historically placed Novels (but these are of older age as well). Christine Nöstlinger and Peter Härtling wrote some nice stories, too. And the almighty Michael Ende. Momo is one of my favorite Stories as well as "Die unendliche Geschichte".

I grew up with translations of Jostein Gaarder, Mats Wahl, Astrid Lindgren, Enyd Blyton and the like, though they forced thomas the tank-engine in english on me when I was very small :D
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #143 on: February 06, 2015, 09:55:05 AM »
Quote from: kex on February 05, 2015, 10:52:01 AM
The Eragon books are kind of ok, have they been written by Cornelia Funke? Not too sure about that. I bingeread TKKG as well. Some books of Wolfgang Hohlbein are good but not all, then there was Klaus Kordon, he did many historically placed Novels (but these are of older age as well). Christine Nöstlinger and Peter Härtling wrote some nice stories, too. And the almighty Michael Ende. Momo is one of my favorite Stories as well as "Die unendliche Geschichte".

I grew up with translations of Jostein Gaarder, Mats Wahl, Astrid Lindgren, Enyd Blyton and the like, though they forced thomas the tank-engine in english on me when I was very small :D


Jostein Gaarder is amazing!!! But Cornelia Funke wrote the Inkheart triology, not Eragon. ;) Inkheart is very good, though
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #144 on: February 06, 2015, 08:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Sigrid Marie on February 06, 2015, 09:55:05 AM
Jostein Gaarder is amazing!!! But Cornelia Funke wrote the Inkheart triology, not Eragon. ;) Inkheart is very good, though
I remember wanting to read the books, I think I did read a part of one of them, but couldn't remember which.
Now that I think back to it, I'll go find the Inkheart books and read them. XD I did enjoy the beginning, that I do remember.
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2015, 03:41:32 PM »
From works of Cornelia Funke I enjoyed "The Thief Lord" the most. Inkheart had the moments, but I found the last book too childish the moment it came out, in consequence have never read it to the end ;)
Jostein Gaarder is great, I remember Sophie's World plot blowing my mind up, The Orange Girl is pretty neat, too.

Funny thing happened to me recently. I've been doing some music-related research, mostly in French. Looking for a confirmation of something, I clicked the first googled wikipedia link (undoubted source of information!), believing it to be in French (I don't know why, self-suggestion or something). After reading (and fully comprahending) three out of four sections, I noticed this French was a little bit bizzare...
No suprise, since it was in fact Italian.
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2015, 04:20:32 PM »
Quote from: Deirdre on February 15, 2015, 03:41:32 PM

Funny thing happened to me recently. I've been doing some music-related research, mostly in French. Looking for a confirmation of something, I clicked the first googled wikipedia link (undoubted source of information!), believing it to be in French (I don't know why, self-suggestion or something). After reading (and fully comprahending) three out of four sections, I noticed this French was a little bit bizzare...
No suprise, since it was in fact Italian.

Hehe. Hehehehe. HAHAHA! Grandioso! Almeno puoi capire l'italiano, neh? Viva le famiglie linguistiche!!

(Great! At least you can understand Italian eh? Yay for language families!)
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2015, 04:48:29 PM »
Yup. Yay for next language (after Russian) I can understand thank to language propinquity, but am nevertheless totally unable to communicate in! ;)
Nope, it really seems useful, but a bit strange, isn't it? At least it was for other people I told the story. But maybe the more languages you speak the easier it becomes, or something? It could be an actual question for you, Nimphy, and other people in here learning more foreign languages than my poor count of three/four.
I don't know, I remember being able to get a third of Swedish folk songs texts right supported only by written original lyrics and my poor knowlage of German, maybe I'm just weird.
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2015, 05:44:03 PM »
As I'm currently trying to learn Italian after learning French and Spanish, I'd say it is definetely an advantage to know other romance languages and it makes it a lot easier to understand/guess new words.
On the other hand, I tend to make mistakes because I think I know how something works and then it is different in Italian, or because the small things make a big difference (like, de/di and so on).  ::)
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Re: Language learning discussion
« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2015, 07:00:28 PM »
Quote from: Deirdre on February 15, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
I don't know, I remember being able to get a third of Swedish folk songs texts right supported only by written original lyrics and my poor knowlage of German, maybe I'm just weird.

Nah, that's not weird. From my basic understanding of German I have a very very very basic understanding of Swedish.
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