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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #615 on: June 09, 2022, 08:34:37 AM »
tehta,
The tulip is lovely.  I think it looks great.

This is all fascinating! The only thing I have ever heard about this is when a Wiccan once told me one cannot practice magic and work with computers, as they are opposites. (It's certainly that way in some role-playing games, but it seemed a little odd to me.)

Definitely fascinating
It can be thought of that computers and the people who program/work with them are mages in their own right. 

Years ago I worked in a language called Lisp. Talk about Arcane
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #616 on: June 09, 2022, 08:37:32 AM »
Between the painting of the Emil tulip and the edit of Reynir as Venus, what a day for lovely art!

You are so correct.  It is pouring rain here today (Though we really need it, so I am not complaining)

I was watching this little bird try to eat at the feeder.  Every time it put it's head in, it got this huge drip on it's head
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #617 on: June 09, 2022, 09:06:29 AM »
tehta, while I have known some hardline Pagans who try to avoid technology as much as they can, I have known others who embrace it and even work with it. I think for many of the neopagans there are no established rules, it seems to be more a matter of what works, or doesn’t work, for them as individuals. Most of the systems I have encountered that do have rules about such things tend to be the old and crusty systems, and even those sometimes adapt down the centuries! My own view is that the technology is neutral, and the use made of it is what matters. And that computer example is amusing!

 Plus at least the Celtic ones allow for circumstances in the world. For example, in many of the Celtic systems it is not considered right for a mage to be a mercenary soldier or part of a peacetime standing army, but is perfectly permissible to be a soldier in a war in which one’s own country is threatened. And even in ordinary circumstances some users of Celtic magic have been non-combatants within the military system- I have known three who were army field medics, one who was a military bandsman, and several who were nurses or doctors in military hospitals. I think it has to do with the attitude to taking life, and to jobs that put someone in a position where power could be too easily abused.

The arts are generally okay, along with music, dance and other performing or teaching arts, and the ones that involve some sort of service-to-humanity task - health care, education, and suchlike. One senior druid worked for many years in a program educating people who were in jail to the point where they were literate and numerate enough to get and hold a legal job, since the lack of such skills is an all too common reason for people winding up in the prison system. Seems to me like a service to humanity thing to do.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #618 on: June 09, 2022, 10:36:20 AM »
It can be thought of that computers and the people who program/work with them are mages in their own right. 
There have been suggestions to that effect, yes ...

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Gee, thanks, now I'm feeling old (both for writing it "LISP", and having learnt FORTRAN instead, before turning to newfangled ones like COBOL). :trond:
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #619 on: June 09, 2022, 02:46:37 PM »
there is a minimum age for writing it LISP?

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #620 on: June 09, 2022, 03:34:09 PM »
Lisp was one of my first languages too! It's why I still love using maps and zips for everything. But, yeah, kids nowadays don't tend to learn it.

I don't know about minimum age, but my dad always said people older than twenty five can't code anymore. (It's when he stopped coding.) But I'm quite a bit older than twenty five myself, so...
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #621 on: June 09, 2022, 04:07:06 PM »
Lisp was one of my first languages too! It's why I still love using maps and zips for everything. But, yeah, kids nowadays don't tend to learn it.

I don't know about minimum age, but my dad always said people older than twenty five can't code anymore. (It's when he stopped coding.) But I'm quite a bit older than twenty five myself, so...

I do not think there is a minimum or maximum age to code.  Some of it is what your interests lie, as well if this is a career path one would like.

I have a friend who still codes (he is over 70, mostly training materials though)

I know quite a few older dev-ops people who use a lot of python or perl (I find python easier.  It is at least human readable.  Though my work life I live in SQL and excel :p)

I am actually quite surprised that there are still some flavors of Lisp being used still.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #622 on: June 09, 2022, 04:25:30 PM »
LISP is such a nice language. After looking it up (because xkcd mentioned it) and learning a little bit of it. I am always wondering why not more people use it.

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #623 on: June 09, 2022, 05:35:40 PM »
LISP is such a nice language. After looking it up (because xkcd mentioned it) and learning a little bit of it. I am always wondering why not more people use it.

You know what LISP stands for?
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #624 on: June 09, 2022, 06:44:33 PM »
You know what LISP stands for?
Lots of Irritating Single Parentheses
I knew it as Learning is Such a Pain

(because xkcd mentioned it)

I love Xkcd..


but in reality

 but because LISP
Fate gives all of us three teachers, three friends, three enemies, and three great loves in our lives. But these twelve are always disguised, and we never know which one is which until we've loved them, left them, or fought them.

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #625 on: June 09, 2022, 06:58:47 PM »
The other LISP joke I know is this one:

"I hacked into the DoD computers and stole their code for operating the nuclear weapons.  To prove it, here's the last two lines of the code:

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #626 on: June 09, 2022, 07:13:00 PM »
The other LISP joke I know is this one:

"I hacked into the DoD computers and stole their code for operating the nuclear weapons.  To prove it, here's the last two lines of the code:

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That actually has some basis in truth. The DOD did use LISP a lot.  I do not know anything about the nuclear mission though
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #627 on: June 10, 2022, 02:44:24 AM »
there is a minimum age for writing it LISP?
Not strictly, but if you look at the timeline, spelling changed from "LISP" (as of 1955) to "Somethinglisp" (in 1965) to "Lisp" (1975), not counting the variants where the name vanished into an "L" or nothingness.

With occasional regressions (AutoLISP, ISLISP, Visual LISP), of course ...

That actually has some basis in truth. The DOD did use LISP a lot.  I do not know anything about the nuclear mission though
Did you check for a string constant of "00000000", perchance?
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #628 on: June 10, 2022, 05:35:19 AM »
I feel like, at this point, someone should propose next week's prompt, based on this discussion. But I have no good ideas, and have been proposing too many things anyway.

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #629 on: June 10, 2022, 07:37:51 AM »
I feel like, at this point, someone should propose next week's prompt, based on this discussion.
... you mean, "Things Mikkel Madsen a Mage is not Allowed to do"?
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