What we have today is extraordinary in the web spaces of today.
Hmmmmm ... as someone who, in comparison, is noticeably more focused on the seminal work (and general banter) than the fan works, I feel like I would be lying if I were to say more then "I'll try to be in" ... (which is essentially the same treatment I'm giving SSSS right now)
We have our stories, our ships, the families, the Mead Moose, the squirrels, [...]
This time I also encourage you to just say “I’m in” even if that’s all you feel like contributing right now.
One, I think we do need a central focus. But while I don't think we should drop the SSSS connection altogether, I don't think that can be our sole or main long-term focus; and I think that keeping SSSS in the name, long-term, might well do ourselves a disservice; especially if Minna keeps heading in directions she seems all to likely to be heading in.Minna is saying quite clearly that in some while, she'll be stepping away from SSSS, and when I look at four of her works (ARtD, SSSS, CoH, and LP) being spread out over three websites, I would guess that she'll be dropping her own use of the name as well.
The other thing I'm wondering, and maybe I've just missed it: how are these forums hosted and how is that funded? And are those who have been doing that interested in keeping going, and if so in what fashion? -- I know they're independent of Minna; but I don't know what is, and just who are, required to keep them in existence.It's been a while since I was involved into the sysadmin issues, but I'm pretty sure that it's still a custom installation of SMF plus some add-ons plus some "homegrown" patches and fixes running on top of a donated cloud server. And thus dependent on moderators, knowledgeable admins, and the donation(s) to stay operational as-is.
I'm sure this is a very important discussion and I'd really like to say something meaningful, but I'm afraid my brain isn't very big on thinking these days...
I don't think I have much to contribute to this community, other than occasional whining. I don't really do fanart, I don't have any ideas for SSSS-related fanfiction and I just don't feel alive enough to participate in any serious discussion. I want the forum to survive, though. I... Ugh! I can't even articulate how I feel about this. I'm sorry I can't offer any help. I wish I wasn't like this. Oh well. Good luck, I suppose.
I want to point out that I don't think any of us expects people who aren't fanart/fanfiction creators to suddenly become creators. Folks who are here just to say "hey that looks cool" or "i agree" are still important! And we want to know that you'll still be here. Just saying "I'm here and I have no idea what to say but I hope everything works out" is all you needed to do, RanVor :)
RanVor, I don't make any pictorial art, and haven't produced any written fanworks except unfinished bits and pieces that have stayed inside my own head. But here I have been rattling on in various threads of this discussion all the same.
Ran! You are absolutely an important member! I was trying to word the invitation so that it doesn’t only indicate people who do some sort of art etc, but obviously I failed. I will add something to the opening post. It’s not about the fanwork (although that is important too) but about the community. Each and every one of us who participate in the discussions are part of that community. You for example are often on the Comfort Corner offering hugs to people. Very important!*sighs* All of you have obviously missed an important part of my post: I just don't feel alive enough to participate in any serious discussion. There's a reason I haven't been particularly active lately and it's not because I got bored. Recently I've been having trouble with focusing on things and articulating my thoughts and feelings. Oftentimes I see somebody posting something interesting and I want to reply, but I fail to find the words for it, get frustrated and find something else to do. Even writing this post has been a challenge. I'm sure there's plenty of interesting conversations I'd love to get into, but unfortunately, my ability to participate is severely limited.
*sighs* All of you have obviously missed an important part of my post: I just don't feel alive enough to participate in any serious discussion. There's a reason I haven't been particularly active lately and it's not because I got bored. Recently I've been having trouble with focusing on things and articulating my thoughts and feelings. Oftentimes I see somebody posting something interesting and I want to reply, but I fail to find the words for it, get frustrated and find something else to do. Even writing this post has been a challenge. I'm sure there's plenty of interesting conversations I'd love to get into, but unfortunately, my ability to participate is severely limited.Yah, I know that feeling. You might be surprised at how many have that feeling from time to time. While it'll be enough to pop back in now and again just to say hello it's not like you have to. If you prefer to step away that's okay. Just take care of yourself. If you need a place to vent or if you feel well enough to join a conversation then we'll be here to listen. Here's a cookie. :squirrelcookie:
3) The name should be fine, even after SSSS ends. That's what brought us here in the first place, after all!
I’m with JoB on that the name issue doesn’t have to be decided now. I’m at this very moment inclined to keep it, but we’ll see. For now SSSS is going on and according to Minna it will stay the same so we can probably revisit the naming issue later?
Then a couple of comments. I think it’s absolutely vital that the future is opened also for fans who like Lovely People and / or whatever comes next. We are what we are because we are tolerant, willing to discuss and strive to be inclusive. We certainly can’t turn our backs to any of our own! I don’t think anyone in this thread actually meant to suggest such a thing, but I want to underline that we must avoid looking like we do that. I’m not saying we must include anyone who manages to say “I like a work of Minna’s”, but people who are willing to play by our tolerant, inclusive, friendly and polite rules should of course be taken in.
On the other hand, discussions about such future works should remain “contained” so that they are not pushed on people who are not interested. LP has stayed well in the dedicated thread (actually there is such important discussion in that thread that I’ve been wondering whether we should raise some of those into a dedicated thread but couldn’t really choose) but if there will be a body of future work, probably a board for it would be the way to go. Time will tell.
2) Yes, please, include a board for fans of Minna's newer works! There are lots of parts of this forum I never bother with (the CoH board, for instance; I'm not a gamer so that was of no interest to me) and having a board (or boards) for newer works would be consistent with the friendly, inclusive vibe, but avoid clutter for those who aren't interested in those discussions.
But -- trying to think how to put this. I'm not sure how hosting a board here to praise those future works would work out. Would we really get primarily people "willing to play by our tolerant, inclusive, friendly and polite rules" and posts "consistent with the friendly, inclusive vibe" if those works, like Lovely People, are themselves not tolerant and inclusive? Would it be considered intolerant or not inclusive to criticize the works in the fashion that many of us have been criticizing Lovely People? If not, would those whose essence is itself criticized by the works be expected just to stay quiet on the subject -- yes, we all know there are transphobes (or whatever) in the living room, just stay out of that room? ('There's nothing I find interesting in that room' isn't at all the same thing as 'there are people in that room who want me not to exist.') Would the moderators have a persistent heavy load trying to keep an inherently unstable situation under control?
I'm certainly not opposed to a re-read; there seem to be quite a few people who want to do this, and I might well join in. But I hope this group doesn't entirely turn back in time and only circle around on where SSSS has been. I'd like to also see us open out and find additional work, by additional artists, which we can discuss.
thorny and catbirds both brought up good points about the risks of having a board devoted to whatever new work Minna does. Keep's idea to not actively promoting this space on her new works is a good one, and was actually my assumption of how things would work. I'm of two minds now: on the one hand (or mind?), if there's a board devoted to the critical dissection of the new work, will anybody use it? People who dislike the new direction probably won't be reading, so they can't exactly critique it; people who like it would be less likely to be highly critical and it could turn into a little corner of this otherwise pretty tolerant space where some toxic ideas get sincere discussion. And that could be a big problem, and put far too much pressure on our wonderful mods. But on the other hand/mind, it seems like sticking our fingers in our ears and yelling lalala I can't hear you to ignore the existence of whatever she does next. Argh, I'm bad at these complex ethical issues! Mostly I worry about the sanity of the mods, which tips me towards ignoring the new work, but then I worry that's problematic... and there I go into the spiral again! :'DI also agree on the "not actively promoting" part. The topic is complex, and the mods sanity is something we must weight. However the fact is that, even among all the controversy, our LP thread remained more or less tolerant and respectful, which might indicate that threads focused on Minna's future works could also function the way we wish.
But on the other hand/mind, it seems like sticking our fingers in our ears and yelling lalala I can't hear you to ignore the existence of whatever she does next.
(although in this case we need to be careful not to start looking for "clues" about the development of Minna's current ideas)
I know there's already a webcomics thread in the General Discussion, but maybe it would be an idea to make a list of webcomics to discuss and have a comic-of-the-week like thread?
I feel tempted to treat Minna's future works just like any other*, because we should gradualy move our center of gravity out of Minna's works / SSSS towards the comunity itself, a Forum in line with the original meaning of the word.
Around that Forum we may very well keep a temple for SSSS, and gradually add other temples, like the one we have for ARTD. Yet the central space should remain free and open
I could add Wilde Life to that list, I've seen some overlap there as well. I know there's already a webcomics thread in the General Discussion, but maybe it would be an idea to make a list of webcomics to discuss and have a comic-of-the-week like thread?
I second (third?) a comic-of-the-week thread (or threads, I think that's what Sc0ut is proposing), and I waaaaaay second Wilde Life! It's my #2 comic after SSSS. Incredible character development and storytelling, good humor, great art, and I know for sure that Pascalle is a respectful and kind person.I'll toss my hat into the ring and "THIRD!" on Wilde Life! Pascalle is currently on a chapter break until 3 May so now's the time to get caught up! ;D
About the re-read: I agree that just one page at a time is glacial pacing. Maybe two- or three-page chunks is better. Or, sure, at first we could break the prologue into larger chunks, nationality by nationality, to cover it more quickly. Maybe a couple of people could be in charge of making those posts, and each person chooses a day of the week they're in charge of do to the posting? Or we could have a rolling thing where each week/month/some chunk of time, a different person volunteers to announce the current page/s? I would be happy to volunteer for either. I'm picturing maybe . . . Wednesdays and Saturdays, to sort of offset the MWThF update schedule Minna has going on?
Gwenno is right, we shouldn't calibrate ourselves to assume the worst of people who like LP and whatever Minna creates next. Number one, we have no idea what that next thing will be like! Some of us are apprehensive, which is completely reasonable, but we shouldn't make decisions right now about the unknown. Number two, we didn't all have the same feelings about LP. Those of us who liked it are, of course, still absolutely welcome here and should be able to discuss their feelings/impressions/inspirations just like everyone else. I think it would be counter to the values of this community if we didn't provide a space for people to explore their appreciation for LP (and possible future works) without feeling shut down. We should trust each other, and trust the mods.
I'm open to Jitter's Other Stories/About Other Creative Works board. I think a lot of us have a lot of beloved things to share, and if we're to include discussions about LP and Minna's future works, the bare minimum would be to create a thread for each of those. They would fit nicely in an "And here's other stuff that we like to share with each other and discuss" board. And if we need to expand or shift around again, we can do that. The decisions we make here, while important, aren't permanent.
I feel like I should ask: For people reading this thread who liked LP, would you like to have a space to explore what you liked about it? I don't want to put words in anyone's mouths. I also don't want to make anyone feel called out if they don't feel comfortable saying that they did like it (it's still a contentious issue after all). Just, it feels weird making suggestions on behalf of LP-appreciators without asking you directly.
I'll toss my hat into the ring and "THIRD!" on Wilde Life! Pascalle is currently on a chapter break until 3 May so now's the time to get caught up! ;D
ETA: can we also do Witch Door, though?I've seen people mention Witch Door so I just went and found it ... and have now read it all the way to current.
Um, re Wilde Life: Arachnid warning.Ooof. Good thought.
(Doesn't bother me; but I think somebody else here said they were bothered.)
I think there's a poll option that the mods can start when the time comes for this kind of thing! If you guys are looking to get a vote for this thing, you should look into that.If you mean to have a vote on the comics to prep topics for, I have a hunch that we're gonna elect "Other (please specify below)" for president. ;)
If you mean to have a vote on the comics to prep topics for, I have a hunch that we're gonna elect "Other (please specify below)" for president. ;)
Maybe people could suggest comics in a thread, and we'd periodically vote to see the most popular ones out of those? It's not entirely ideal though, since it would be biased towards the comics that are already well-known, and might make it a bit harder for more niche but well-loved works to go through. But that would at least give some structure to the whole idea, and allow people to submit their favourites as they please without it getting too erratic or the same options showing up repeatedly.
As an alternative to voting (which sounds to me like it would be a bit of a pain to organise), we could just let people sign up to create threads, and whoever creates the thread decides on the webcomic discussed for that week - this way, many people could suggest their favourites even if they're not necessarily popular. We should coordinate somehow so that there are no overlaps and we get a good genre variety from one week to the other ofc. I imagine this being organised in a similar way like the Advent Calendars were a few years ago (I haven't participated in a while so I don't know if it changed).Oh yeah, I think I get what you're saying. Do you mean there'd be something like a public calendar were people can sign up to create a thread for a certain week? It's true that that would move a lot of the burden away from the organisor, with the added benefit of making it all a bit more personal by letting people talk about the things they like. As for overlap, I'm not entirely sure how these things work, but if people could somehow indicate what they are planning to discuss beforehand then I don't think it should be much of a problem. If the Advent Calendar format was successful (I'm very new to the forum, but I just took a look at the archive and it does seem that way) then that's probably a good way to go about it.
If it is going to be another lengthier comic, I find it useful to create a special board just for that, like we have for the Rt'sD.
Oh yeah, I think I get what you're saying. Do you mean there'd be something like a public calendar were people can sign up to create a thread for a certain week?
The idea is to keep the Silent World universe in the spotlight while shining extra light on fan-works, community interests and other media as a way to cultivate engagement in these areas to ultimately keep the community alive. The re-read is a fantastic idea and I'm all of it. The issue is that it's unlikely we'll get more about the cannon world to keep the community going once the re-read is done, and I suspect the end won't deliver answers for the big questions in the story either. There's a promised depth to this universe that will go unfulfilled but by fan works. This is a different situation from epic fiction works (eg Lord of the Rings, Cosmere, Star Wars) which are pretty much expansive sandboxes full of tiny moving parts to play with.
it should not be taken as an insult, because that is what christianity is teaching.
If you are not interested in Christianity, then just don't pay attention to it
It might be that my own habits blind me to important matters, but personally I don't feel there's any rush to re-organise the boards really. The first thing I do when I come here is click "show unread posts since your last visit", which shows me everything that was posted across the forum, and I can pick and choose the conversations I want to read regardless of which part of the forum they're hosted.
Some things that however may need to be discussed sooner rather than later:
- how central do we want to keep Minna's art to the forum? It did bring us here indeed, but personally, the more time goes on and the "situation" doesn't improve, the more I get soured on it. I can imagine a time when it would irk me to even see the SSSS banner and advertisements of her streams etc all over the page. Not yet though - for now, I just know for sure I won't participate in the re-read and I'll most likely not post fan content or look at it for Minna's works anymore either. I wonder if there are other people who feel the same. As of now, I'm definitely only staying here for the interesting people I've met and not for engaging in any way with Minna's creations.
- how do we deal with the fact that we're now a "broken fanbase" - meaning, some of us have very strong but opposing feelings about aspects of Minna's work, which is bound to crop up even in unrelated conversations, as illustrated here by Annuil and Róisín. My concern here is that literally any thread has the potential of getting conflictual by a mere mention of these aspects, because it seems innocent to one party and intolerable to the other. Even if it doesn't "devolve into namecalling" (which is the thing most people focus on when discussing conflicts online, but imo is not the only thing that negatively impacts fandom engagement) it may still make people avoid certain threads when it happens, and generally make things stressful, unless we come to a common agreement on how to minimise this risk.
- how do we want to include new original works in the forum for all of us to engage with - because I don't really think it will survive, at least not without losing a lot more people than have already left, without them.
However, I do not agree that we should get away from her art as a central point, Sc0ut. If the front-page of SSSS makes people feel sick of it, they simply won't come to the forum by any means. Why would they, if they don't like it?
- how central do we want to keep Minna's art to the forum? It did bring us here indeed, but personally, the more time goes on and the "situation" doesn't improve, the more I get soured on it. I can imagine a time when it would irk me to even see the SSSS banner and advertisements of her streams etc all over the page. Not yet though - for now, I just know for sure I won't participate in the re-read and I'll most likely not post fan content or look at it for Minna's works anymore either. I wonder if there are other people who feel the same. As of now, I'm definitely only staying here for the interesting people I've met and not for engaging in any way with Minna's creations.I'm a bit tired right now so I don't want to write too much, but I just want to say I feel the same way. I don't at all desire to engage with Minna's works any longer in my own time and I keep going back and forth on whether to keep following this forum or just leave it. I've been familiar with this community for half a decade and I want to at least help it move towards the future if I can, but I sometimes worry that it might not be worth the mental toll that all of it is taking.
If you are stable at who you are such things should not bother you.And if you aren't, you tend to seek places that you trust not to bring them up, as SSSS used to be before day X(tian) ...
I think at the beginning of it there's a little note that says roughly "It's about christianity".FWIW:
(Is it relevant to add the wording on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube channel, ..., as well? If so, someone please do that, I don't read those.)
- how central do we want to keep Minna's art to the forum? It did bring us here indeed, but personally, the more time goes on and the "situation" doesn't improve, the more I get soured on it. I can imagine a time when it would irk me to even see the SSSS banner and advertisements of her streams etc all over the page. Not yet though - for now, I just know for sure I won't participate in the re-read and I'll most likely not post fan content or look at it for Minna's works anymore either. I wonder if there are other people who feel the same. As of now, I'm definitely only staying here for the interesting people I've met and not for engaging in any way with Minna's creations.
If you are stable at who you are such things should not bother you.
I'm a bit tired right now so I don't want to write too much, but I just want to say I feel the same way. I don't at all desire to engage with Minna's works any longer in my own time and I keep going back and forth on whether to keep following this forum or just leave it. I've been familiar with this community for half a decade and I want to at least help it move towards the future if I can, but I sometimes worry that it might not be worth the mental toll that all of it is taking.
<snip> But not having an open forum for discussion (or having one on some way less user-friendly site) definitely doesn't give people the same sense of community that we have right now. This is the most probable outcome if we don't agree on something collectively? BUT we still have around a year or so of planning time as of... right now, so as we discuss this, and as people come up with ideas or develop ideas that they like, I think what we should do and what people who like being here want for the future will gradually become clearer.
also i gotta say. if you are stable and have two legs, it should not bother you if i trip you up while walking. if you're crippled, maybe you shouldn't have been walking near me. it gave me a chance to trip you up.
popping in to say, uh, Minna isn't the only person doing nordic webcomic
year in hereafter comes to mind and that webcomic doesn't even have a fan site
basically, this forum can become a hub for all cool nordic webcomics
or something
bc idk i don't feel like following christianity in any form
even reading ssss is a bit tiring...
Looking at why we like SSSS, what elements drew most of us to it is helpful in figuring what sort of discussions we can encourage.
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We don't need to make the choice between being unconditionally supportive of past present and future works and attitudes or killing any links to how this community came to be.
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Like, eg an incomplete list of aspects I cherish in the story:
- Coexistence of multiple less known mythologies and religions
- The absence of a Main Correct One religion that's the secret truth of the world to rule over them all
- Post-Apocalyptic setting that isn't full of doom and gloom humans suck
- Relationships between characters
- Language barriers mostly played straight rather than being forgotten the moment they're inconvenient to the plot
- The art
- Cats and their role in the world
- Monsters with an excessive amount of limbs
- Support cast that isn't fully compromised of 20-somethings floating around without a point of attachment to their communities
[ .. . ]
I don't know about anyone else, but I need to step away a little, stop looking at the trainwreck, focus on the uncontroversial discussions, and fret less. I've been busy the last couple days and not keeping up with the various debates, and found myself feeling a bit more positive. I'm on board to keep this place going, but I'm not going to think about it any more until the end of SSSS is in sight.
Given how the content itself has not been the biggest point of contention but how it was presented and how the community response has been handled by her it's fair to say adjusting the forum so it's more art and content-centric—and I mean that about her stories too—and less author-centric has great chances of easing tensions.Oh, ok, that makes sense and I’m totally fine with that.
E.g. while aRTD had a pretty different audience, a pretty significant portion of this forum was willing to jump into SSSS when it came.(Just in case that you mean this here forum, it started in Sep-2014, while SSSS began, after ARtD's conclusion, in Nov-2013. And almost half of its users registered in 2016 or later, so ...)
(Just in case that you mean this here forum, it started in Sep-2014, while SSSS began, after ARtD's conclusion, in Nov-2013. And almost half of its users registered in 2016 or later, so ...)
(I don't know the official "official" capitalization scheme for the acronym, all I know is that a lowercase must be somewhere in there)(The variant I have memorized as being the most-oft used is "ArTD" - which might help pronunciation, but makes no sense whatsoever acronym-capitalization-wise. So I'm working off "I think it should be ..." myself here.)
Oh, ok, that makes sense and I’m totally fine with that.
I do want to say that the idea suggested about adding other Nordic apocalyptic comic to this forum to get away from SSSS as a center did not sound so great to me. Different comics have different attitudes and I can even say, sometimes there are things I do not want to associate with. Like, I came to this forum because of SSSS and because I know what it is and how it is and what people read it. The forum changing in such a fashion may draw me away from here (it’s just thoughts, I don’t know how it is going to be in reality) So, I’m just not sure about that idea.
Otherwise, I mostly agree with you guys about reshaping the forum, in a way to accommodate everyone. :)
Practically speaking the odds of finding something that fits all those boxes is basically zero, or getting infinitely closer to zero, or some other tight probability.
I am so glad y'all are having this discussion, and are being so thoughtful and supportive.
As for me, I try to look ahead past my current toxicity and ...
(https://imgur.com/Tp987nG.png)
I hope I regain my sense of humour and balance sooner rather than later.
Interesting to see this discussion, especially as the discussion thread for comic updates and the comic itself seems to have pretty much died out!
I'm not sure how new that is. I've noticed for some time that on a lot of days we seem to be talking about nearly everything other than the comic; or, at least, other than the recent updates.
Interesting to see this discussion, especially as the discussion thread for comic updates and the comic itself seems to have pretty much died out!
I agree with thorny and Keep - the latest updates thread is usually pretty quiet, and most of the activity has to do with things other than SSSS. The forum has attracted a diverse and interesting group of people, who are interested in many other things beyond SSSS that they have to talk about here! :)) There seems to be some kind of commonality that keeps us interacting, no idea what it is, but it's apparently not just SSSS.
Earlier Minna has said that Adventure 2 will be somewhat shorter than A1 because there is no prologue and also no need to introduce the characters etc, maybe 300 pages or so shorter. So there shoud be at least close to 300 more to go. We’ve been getting here for about 2,5 years, although that was slowed for the LP process. So, I would say at least anout a year to go, if she really will go through the original arc.If adventure 2 ends up with 700 pages we would still have to wait 275 pages for the end. With 4 pages a week we would have 16 months ahead, and adding four 2-week page breaks we would have roughly 18 months or one and a half year of SSSS updates. Also, as you pointed, SSSS probably is her source of income, so it's not that easy to just stop, unless she is able to retain the fans or win many new ones.
Even if not, it’s still likely to be several months. It should also be borne in mind that SSSS is her only work and living at the moment, it wouldn’t be very feasible for her to just stop out cold even if she wanted to. I very much hope it won’t come to that, because if she were working just because she has to, there would likely be a dramatic quality drop far beyond what we have seen now.
Financially it would also hardly make sense to kill SSSS off abruptly because there is still Book 4 to go on A1 [...] the ongoing comic seems like the main platform for marketing of printed books. [...] my point is that she has so far been rational with her finances and I hope this stays so, especially as it’s another factor for the proper ending of A2.
The LP book sales may be a success, but that’s a while away from now.Maybe not - the banners on Hummingfluff (http://www.hummingfluff.com/) currently say that the LP book's available (via self-publishing) now.
the banners on Hummingfluff (http://www.hummingfluff.com/) currently say that the LP book's available (via self-publishing) now.
BTW she has removed her affiliate status with Twitch so the streams don’t bring her any money directly, so if someone wants to join to get information, it will not result in monetary support.Huh? That's a weird decision. Did she mention why?
Future timelines from yesterday's stream. Minna estimated that Adventure 2 will be going on until next year, apparently sometime early 2022. So, we have time, but not indefinite time.
She also mentioned that the story will end in something open like Adventure 1 was, so that if she in some point in the future feels like it, or "can't come up with any other idea" she can make another adventure. Upon which point I commented that she'll not be likely to be killing everyone off, at which point she added that it could of course be a backtrack to the prologue, or another time jump, or whatever, and that we can't trust her not to kill our team :) Of course it's not something she'd comment on, but I'm hopeful at least some of the characters will survive :) (I'm HOPEFUL they will all survive, but you never know...)
She also confirmed when asked that book 4 printing will happen and she's also prepared to print Adventure 2 into physical books, if Hiveworks wants to and feels it's a viable business at the time. I personally doubt it will happen, as it would be probably three books making the printing at very minimum a three year project (likely closer to 6) and the demand is likely to be diminishing after the updates cease.I'm very happy that book 4 will happen, because the story deserves it, and even more since I'm hoping to buy them all together to save on shipping. :)
Huh? That's a weird decision. Did she mention why?
It happened a few weeks ago already. I don’t know the exact reasoning but I think it has something to do with how one is supposed to be not greedy. I may be wrong though.Makes no sense to me. The platform will just put what she would get into their own pockets.
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As for the decision of removing her twitch affiliate, the cited reason from a few months ago was that money makes it less enjoyable or casual. I think removing it also removes ads from her streams, but I'm not sure because I always have adblock on. And I'm not sure if this still somehow puts profit into amazon's pocket or means her channel is dead weight on their servers, but the company seems to be the type to monetize every possible pixel on their sites.The answer may be as simple as this. With LP she's made no secret of how she feels about social media. Amazon was part of the portmanteau she created with "Alizongle." She may have removed her Twitch affiliate simply so she wouldn't be responsible for generating revenue to them.
It happened a few weeks ago already. I don’t know the exact reasoning but I think it has something to do with how one is supposed to be not greedy. I may be wrong though.
As for the decision of removing her twitch affiliate, the cited reason from a few months ago was that money makes it less enjoyable or casual. I think removing it also removes ads from her streams, but I'm not sure because I always have adblock on. And I'm not sure if this still somehow puts profit into amazon's pocket or means her channel is dead weight on their servers, but the company seems to be the type to monetize every possible pixel on their sites.
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She had considered quitting SSSS after Adventure 1 and for a bit she felt at the time that she was too tired to carry on, but then decided to do Adv 2 after all. She also mentioned having been nearly burnt out during Adventure 2, because she stopped doing the art pieces due to this. She plans to make the schedule for the new stuff such that she’ll work about 40 hours a week in the comic pages, instead of the current 60, and hopes to be able to do some bigger illustrations again. However those are not likely to feature the SSSS characters (except for what she will need for Book 4 promos) but she left a possibility that maybe sometimes.
Anyways it seems it’s not solely the religion that is behind the changes here. I can only imagine how draining it must be to do 60-hour weeks of the same story. Her new views will however likely be heavily reflected in the future work.
No wonder she was burning out - 60 hours/week working on anything is brutal, even if you are kind of antisocial, and no matter how much you love doing it. It's too bad that she felt compelled to maintain that kind of schedule, I'm sure most of her fans would have stuck around had she dropped to 2 or 3 pages/week, especially with the newsletter to announce the start of a new chapter for the folks who like to read in batches.
Maybe make the pages smaller or square(These two options would effectively make it impossible to turn the comic into a printed book later on, though.)