Wiki discussion

[JoB]

I'm binge-reviewing the "article management templates" right now, most of them based on the Ambox template. Could some admin please copy the pertinent CSS to the SSSS Wikia's Wikia.css?

Binge-dive into that repository done; I copied a bunch to the SSSS wiki, expanded the template-related category tree, and applied the templates on a series of pages. Still a handful bugs to be ironed out, sorry, the cacheing issue slows down my bug/fix/test/repeat cycle considerably ...

... I just notice that that CSS contains a couple explicit color definitions that don't sit well with our site design. Let me revisit that before installing it, please.

Two templates that I installed for future use: Category redirect (to be used in streamlining the Übercategories) and Familytree.

[Nimphy]

Oh, I uploaded that wordmark. Looks good, doesn't it?

[JoB]

... I just notice that that CSS contains a couple explicit color definitions that don't sit well with our site design. Let me revisit that before installing it, please.

Done - just one grey background color really needed to be changed (to our alternate standard bgcolor).

[JoB]

Alright, proposal:

• Undo the edit on "Browse" so as to restore the Wikia default categories.
• Keep the genuine topical and all template-related categories (those are rather well-defined, even the ones from the "Stub" template).
• Clean up the wannabe Übercategories (Comic, Content, Meta, "Story, Plot Points, Artwork"), replacing them with clearly defined ones (***), then make those subcategories of "Browse".

(***) I don't care much whether that's one global "Content" or a triptych of "Comic content"/"Comic meta"/"Real world and fandom", as long as it's clear which one to put a page/topic into.

FWIW, I had a look at a couple other Wikias. The majority of them has one top category for the wiki's actual content below "Browse", and most of those call it "Content". More specific types of content then have subcategories below that.

As of now, our Übercategories are "hierarchized" (is that a word, or do I need to take it out and shoot it?) as follows:
(Browse)
 |`-- Content
 |     |`-- Comic
 |     |      `-- Story, ...
 |      `-- World
 |           `-- (the topical categories)
  `-- Meta

Whaddy'all think about the following?
(Browse)
  `-- Content [of the wiki]
       |`-- SSSS [plot, Rash / Illness, ...]
       |     |`-- (the topical categories)
       |      `-- Meta [artwork, inspirations, print drives, ...]
        `-- Non-SSSS [aRTD, Minna, real-world Nordics, ...]
In case of doubt (e.g., "Languages" and "Flags" cover pre-Rash as well as post-Rash state of affairs, or a page explains something and continues to list nitpicks), prefer "SSSS" over "Non-SSSS" and "Meta", respectively.

[Solovei]

FWIW, I had a look at a couple other Wikias. The majority of them has one top category for the wiki's actual content below "Browse", and most of those call it "Content". More specific types of content then have subcategories below that.

As of now, our Übercategories are "hierarchized" (is that a word, or do I need to take it out and shoot it?) as follows:
(Browse)
 |`-- Content
 |     |`-- Comic
 |     |      `-- Story, ...
 |      `-- World
 |           `-- (the topical categories)
  `-- Meta

Whaddy'all think about the following?
(Browse)
  `-- Content [of the wiki]
       |`-- SSSS [plot, Rash / Illness, ...]
       |     |`-- (the topical categories)
       |      `-- Meta [artwork, inspirations, print drives, ...]
        `-- Non-SSSS [aRTD, Minna, real-world Nordics, ...]
In case of doubt (e.g., "Languages" and "Flags" cover pre-Rash as well as post-Rash state of affairs, or a page explains something and continues to list nitpicks), prefer "SSSS" over "Non-SSSS" and "Meta", respectively.

That seems okay, but I don't really understand the point of the Browse category...

[JoB]

I don't really understand the point of the Browse category...

It's one of the categories installed by default and the root of the default category tree. I'ld venture a guess that a couple tools Wikia staff uses to maintain and support Wikias might have it hardcoded, and would malfunction if we were to mess with it. Hence my suggestion to merely undo KenoSarawas edit of it.

[JoB]

Whaddy'all think about the following?

Amendment:
(Browse)
  `-- Content [of the wiki]
       |`-- SSSS [plot, Rash / Illness, ...]
       |     |`-- (the topical categories)
       |      `-- Meta [artwork, inspirations, print drives, ...]
       |`-- Non-SSSS [aRTD, Minna, real-world Nordics, ...]
        `-- Flagged
             `-- (the various auto-assigned categories when a template is
                 used to mark a page as "Candidate for deletion", having
                 "questionable content", "Article stub", etc. etc.)

[JoB]

1. [...] Could some admin please copy the pertinent CSS to the SSSS Wikia's Wikia.css?

. . . . . . .

2. On the same occasion, I stumbled over the (also protected from my grubby fingers) image Wiki.png. If you'ld like to replace that with an individual logo, I made a version of the Wordmark-to-be's "W" in the proper size.

Replaced with a version that blends into the light yellow/orange background better.

Also, suggestion for an individual favicon.

[Solovei]

. . . . . . .
Replaced with a version that blends into the light yellow/orange background better.

Also, suggestion for an individual favicon.

Sorry, totally meant to do this and forgot!

It is now done. Hopefully I did it right! Thanks again for all your help, JoB

[JoB]

Sorry, totally meant to do this and forgot!
It is now done. Hopefully I did it right!

[Checks changelogs] "This" = the CSS stuff, right?

You uploaded the first version (as copied from the Wikia Templates Wiki), so the Amboxes now have a grey background (example). The latest version of the template's CSS suggestion is changed to the a-bit-darker-orange background that you can see around the "Template documentation follows" below. So, which one should the boxes use ... ?

(FWIW, the "wikia" logo in the example is the File:Wiki.png that I suggest having replaced with this image, but due to the blurred outline, that image should be adapted to the background it's put on.)

[Solovei]

[Checks changelogs] "This" = the CSS stuff, right?

You uploaded the first version (as copied from the Wikia Templates Wiki), so the Amboxes now have a grey background (example). The latest version of the template's CSS suggestion is changed to the a-bit-darker-orange background that you can see around the "Template documentation follows" below. So, which one should the boxes use ... ?

(FWIW, the "wikia" logo in the example is the File:Wiki.png that I suggest having replaced with this image, but due to the blurred outline, that image should be adapted to the background it's put on.)

I... don't think it really matters too much, to be honest? They both look good...

[JoB]

... did anyone already happen to see instructions on how we can replace the default icon and description in Wikia's search result lists?

[JoB]

... did anyone already happen to see instructions on how we can replace the default icon and description in Wikia's search result lists?

Ah, currently disabled. Just our luck, then. ???

[Solovei]

Ah, currently disabled. Just our luck, then. ???

Aw, boo. Although, if I understand correctly, this is so pages from your wiki show up on the main wikia site, yes? I wonder how many people would try to get to it from there. In fact, I wonder if there's any way to find out where most visitors to the wiki are coming from? As in, which site are they on right before this one? I know we don't have a lot of links floating around out there (something we should maybe fix, ie in the disqus comments), but I wonder if people google the name of the comic or get links from the forum or what...

[JoB]

Although, if I understand correctly, this is so pages from your wiki show up on the main wikia site, yes?

For varying values of "show up", yes. The aspect that caught my eye was that main image + desc (and not the actual matching page!) are used to represent the wiki in the result lists when you do a keyword search on Wikias main site. According to the instructions, providing images + desc also is your entrance into having the front page, sliders, hubs etc. show your wiki. But it is, of course, unclear how much of all that will remain true once the new version goes live ...

I wonder how many people would try to get to it from there. In fact, I wonder if there's any way to find out where most visitors to the wiki are coming from? As in, which site are they on right before this one? I know we don't have a lot of links floating around out there (something we should maybe fix, ie in the disqus comments), but I wonder if people google the name of the comic or get links from the forum or what...

It seems that the Wikia staff is not too hot on helping with that, sorry ...