Upcoming new bunny comics i.e. Minna’s next work

[LetsEatBees]

Oh please you came into this with the intent to hate it, post here with the intent to troll, and worst of all the only gotchas you have are "This piece of fiction is unrealistic, how dare they 0/10"
And preaching? What has even been preached so far? Don't BS me with this "Oh it's bad because of world-building this nonsense that" you're not smarter than some christian webcomic nobodies heard of, get a life. Why you actually hate it i'd like to hear but you don't have the guts to say that in public.
You know what we're both idiots, you for poking at something everyone here already decided they didn't like, and me for engaging with it honestly; especially on this forum.
At this point I think maybe this thread should be locked, it should have been obvious that the people who were here for SSSS were not going to stick around for content that was this wildly different from what they wanted. All anyone does here is complain for the sake of complaining.

[Dilandu]

Oh please you came into this with the intent to hate it, post here with the intent to troll, and worst of all the only gotchas you have are "This piece of fiction is unrealistic, how dare they 0/10"

Well, you are perfectly fine to believe in it, if simplistic explanations is what made you happy) 

[Jitter]

MODERATOR HAT ON

OK guys cool it. I would ask both Dilandu and LetsEatBees take a break from this thread for a while, ok? (Welcome to talk in any of the other threads!)

This thread is open to any kind of commentary about Journey Upstream. Anyone can make their own comments, or start a new thread if they don’t like this one. You don’t have to acknowledge anything that was previously written here, but are allowed to comment on anything whether you agree or oppose or bit of both.

LetsEatBees, you are probably right that this thread, possibly this forum, is not likely to result in mostly positive attitude discussion about Journey Upstream. However I’m not closing this, the critical comments concern things in the comic and are allowed.

On the other hand Dilandu is correct that he’s the only one creating any discussion on JU at the moment. Like already mentioned, anyone is free to pitch in here or in a new thread.

Changing the direction a discussion is taking is allowed and welcomed, however it should be done by making different points about the subject or creating new discussion, not by insisting others are discussing wrong.

Having said that, everyone is reminded to keep their comments about the comic Journey Upstream and / the other new (”bunny”) and not venturing into comments about Minna as a person or other things about her that are not directly related to the comic (especially Meandering Line is directly about her personal journey and discussing it also means taking about her, but as long opas it’s about that comic it’s ok). ALSO no bashing of Christianity or any religions in general, whether mainstream or sect, in this thread! Discuss the bunny comics only.

Any name calling or otherwise impolite behavior towards other Forumites is right out.

MODERATOR HAT OFF

[Róisín]

Thanks Jitter. I’m still working my way through the new comic, and don’t yet understand it well enough to have formed an opinion. But I hope to do so at some point, and may then have more to say. I don’t enjoy the art as much as in Minna’s previous work, and some of the basic concepts behind the story seem bewilderingly chaotic, but I want to give it time and see how the story and the art develop, or whether they do grow and develop further. Let’s give Minna time and space to explore her ideas?

[thorny]

I haven't been following Minna in any fashion which lets me know when new pages are out, and have been relying on Dilandu to let me know. Are they still permitted to post when the next installment's up, and/or to comment on it in normal fashion? I'd think that would still qualify as taking a break "for a while", as there's usually a significant delay before Minna posts the next batch of pages.

[dmeck7755]

I haven't been following Minna in any fashion which lets me know when new pages are out, and have been relying on Dilandu to let me know. Are they still permitted to post when the next installment's up, and/or to comment on it in normal fashion? I'd think that would still qualify as taking a break "for a while", as there's usually a significant delay before Minna posts the next batch of pages.

The only people who can comment are the ones who have subscribed.  Those comments are blocked to the rest of the viewing audience.  I used to get emails, but the Discord members usually remind people when it is up.

[thorny]

I'm not asking about comment on Minna's site, I'm asking about comment here.

[dmeck7755]

I'm not asking about comment on Minna's site, I'm asking about comment here.

I apologize, I misunderstood.

[thorny]

No apology needed! I sometimes misread people, too.

[Jitter]

Oh yes, the “for a while” has passed when people have cooled down. I believe it’s happened already.

@Dilandu and @LetsEatBees you are free to continue this discussion, just remember to keep it friendly ir at the very least polite, ok?

[Kevin_Redcrow]

Disclaimer: Other than Lovely People I have not read Ms. Sundberg's christian comics.  I'm getting my info on these from these forum threads.

I've found the commentary about the problems of using animals as the characters in this story to be very interesting.

So, thinking aloud,  I wonder if using Furries/Anthromorphs in place of real animal species could have avoided many of these technical problems?

Yes, I'm speaking as an unrepentant Furry. 

[Jitter]

I think some at least. Now they are sort of in between “these are this animal species” and “these are people that just look like whichever animal”. Which is confusing precisely because certain species can be used to represent something, but here they apparently aren’t , at lest not uniformly.

[angsttronaut]

Yeah, I think if they were furries it'd be easier to handwave things like them wearing clothes and not particularly acting like their real life counterparts. I've read books and comics where the animals were actual animals but had more humanlike behaviours and technology, it isn't something that automatically turns off my suspension of disbelief. But something about Minna's approach in Journey Upstream isn't doing that for me, I'm not entirely sure why.

[Róisín]

In part, for me, it is because the few other furry comics I have seen were better written and had more relatable characters. Kevin and Kell was interesting, Doc Rat is a delight.

[angsttronaut]

Yeah. Journey Upstream's cast of characters haven't had much development yet, there's not much to distract from the oddities in the world itself. Perhaps that'll improve as the comic goes on, but there's such a large amount of characters that I'd be surprised if any of them become particularly developed.