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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2021, 03:12:46 PM »
Minna said in a stream a few weeks ago that she doesn’t want to see her story and characters in the hands of someone else*, and she’s more inclined to destroy all of the material than throw it out for others. Earlier she was considering to release the story in some format (the story is quite short) but no news about that since.

*as in becoming official and something she would be seeing - she has repeatedly stated she doesn’t mind fanworks.
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2021, 03:41:38 AM »
Huffs, okay, apparently the CoH devlog still exists somewhere but Minna just hasn't linked to it. It's under some other URL in the same domain??? http://www.hummingfluff.com/devlogindex.php is where it is now. No clear answer on fan archiving otherwise, but it seems we were worried about the wrong thing. The URL would've been pretty hard to guess though ;D
FWIW, I had another quick look at the Hummingfluff website today - the Great Hide is still there, but the entry page now does tell people up front that both LP and her post-SSSS works are / will be focused on a Christian PoV.

(... also, the online version of the comic now has a similarly telling introductory note I haven't seen before. Both last edited 09-Oct, the metadata tells me ...)
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2021, 06:00:36 AM »
I’m relieved that LP now has a warning on it. Several young people I know who encountered it unawares were horrified and very put off by the ambush theology, and would likely have handled it better and read it more receptively had there been a more honest content warning. I had introduced several of the local teens to Minna’s work, knowing that the girls liked beautiful art and folklore as well as I do, and then when the awful introduction to LP happened the reaction from their parents was the sort of disgust I would have expected had I introduced them to hard porn. Neither they nor their parents were at all ready for the ‘everyone who doesn’t agree with me will Burn In Hell’ bit.
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2021, 08:36:52 AM »
when the awful introduction to LP happened the reaction from their parents was the sort of disgust I would have expected had I introduced them to hard porn.
... I shall reply to that after doing the Major Release Upgrade of my laptop, just in case that some of the deities who overhear me do have the option of smiting my work equipment instead of myself ...
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2021, 01:36:58 PM »
I’m relieved that LP now has a warning on it. Several young people I know who encountered it unawares were horrified and very put off by the ambush theology, and would likely have handled it better and read it more receptively had there been a more honest content warning.

The summary on the hummingfluff homepage is… kind of inaccurate IMO. Or at least the story doesn't tell anything even close to what Minna thinks it's telling.

But yes, at least there's something to tell us that it's a Christian Thing now. I just hope that people know that it's super inaccurate for what it's trying to explain either way.

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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2021, 02:00:59 PM »
I had introduced several of the local teens to Minna’s work, knowing that the girls liked beautiful art and folklore as well as I do, and then when the awful introduction to LP happened the reaction from their parents was the sort of disgust I would have expected had I introduced them to hard porn.
I as a parent say this sort of christianity or hard porn. tough decision what I would consider more inappropriate.

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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2021, 04:51:52 AM »
Aaaalright then ... [cracks mental knuckles]

when the awful introduction to LP happened the reaction from their parents was the sort of disgust I would have expected had I introduced them to hard porn.
You know, that comparison is dangling in empty air a bit, what with no information whatsoever about said parents' own religiocopulative worldviews, and whether they do actually know yours. Here in Germany, it takes an islamist cell or the Church of Scientology or something like that before the government will refuse to call a preachy entity a "church" with all the constitutional rights that come with it, but I do well remember the time when there was discussion about passing a law that the Internet shall be subject to our Jugendschutz regulations (i.e., forced to "stop broadcasting" stuff like porn until after 22:00 German time) ...

The summary on the hummingfluff homepage is… kind of inaccurate IMO. Or at least the story doesn't tell anything even close to what Minna thinks it's telling.
She's still convinced that she has a valid warning message about "social credit systems" as a whole and that her religion of choice is one, if not the only, solution to that problem. It doesn't get more "accurate" without the realization that "you'll be judged in the afterlife" probably is the second oldest "social credit system" on this planet. (Predating Christians, to be clear, and the oldest one is humans having a social life and knowing and remembering each other as individuals in the mortal coil, of course.)
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2021, 05:58:53 AM »
Yeah, I’m sure the concept if not the name of social credit systems has been around for as long as humans have lived communally.

 And the teen’s parents: he is Anglican Christian of the serious kind most often seen in England itself, she is a Protestant, I am unsure what kind, but they don’t come across as either ignorant or prejudiced. They know I am a Pagan, and that many other faiths exist in our community, and had never reacted badly to any of us. They had originally asked me to recommend books and webcomics for their girls because they knew and valued my taste in such things, having known me for many years and seen what I read in my lunch breaks when we were working on the same community projects, because all of us, including the girls, have often worked on the same volunteer projects around the town. They were happy with SSSS for the couple of years the girls had been reading it, and then when the girls asked them what Minna meant by her remarks about going to hell they were as appalled as I was. Not something any of us expected!
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2021, 07:51:56 AM »
They were happy with SSSS for the couple of years the girls had been reading it, and then when the girls asked them what Minna meant by her remarks about going to hell they were as appalled as I was.
... with them / their kids having had several years of first-hand impression of Minna (and her former lack of public religious positions), I don't quite see why they would still give you funny looks for having initially recommended her works to them way-back-when ...
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2021, 07:43:18 PM »
I presume they thought I knew about the religious stuff back then. I had known that she was a Lutheran, as were her folks, but had not known her to be the damning kind.
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2021, 01:53:39 AM »
She wasn't at the time, it's been like this for about a year now. So there was no possible way you could have known, when she didn't know herself :)
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2021, 03:47:26 AM »
True. But people are not always rational when it comes to protecting their kids, as I well know, having kids of my own (the youngest being now 47, with adult and teenage children, makes no difference really. One still cares about them.
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« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2021, 03:53:41 AM »
True. But people are not always rational when it comes to protecting their kids, as I well know, having kids of my own (the youngest being now 47, with adult and teenage children, makes no difference really. One still cares about them.
... say, those scars you occasionally mention having, they wouldn't happen to have a couple old spears stuck through them, would they? ;D
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2021, 04:19:03 AM »
Not generally, though I do in fact have one scar from a spear, at the top front of my left thigh. It is more ragged than a scar from such a wound should be, because it was a blunt prop spear. We were filming a reenactment scene for a documentary, and my younger cousin, who was one of my usual partners for such stunt work, miscalculated his aim by maybe an inch, while I was moving, and caught me just below the hem of my mail shirt, which would otherwise have protected my leg while still looking as if the blow were real. My heavy trews protected me somewhat, so could have been worse, but it was annoying because we continued through the last few seconds of the scene we were doing, and the march off. The march off hurt, but it looked very convincing! The wound healed fine, but the scar is ugly.

Most of my scars, though, are from the far more mundane types of injuries taken in the course of farming, mountain climbing, working in an industrial lab and working in the bush.
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Re: The Great Purge
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2021, 04:55:41 PM »
I have most of the art saved there, divided into categories!



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