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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #375 on: February 12, 2021, 07:22:07 PM »
Maglor, I'm very sorry for your loss. Lots of strength, and remember that we're here to listen and help, if we can.

Meanwhile in Portugal we renewed our lockdown for another 15 days, and the perspective is to stay that way until the end of March. It's hard, but it's working. In less than a month we went from 15000+ new cases each day to 5000-4000, and with that saved our NHS from imminent rupture. It was too close, and most people don't want to even discuss the easing of restrictions before the middle of March. Our problems skyrocketed with Christmas and no one wants to repeat that on Easter (that has similar social relevance in Portugal), particularly our health personal that really needs a break to recover, and while hospitals are still flooded with patients because there's a two/three weeks delay between reducing cases and the subsequent reduction in hospitalizations...

Luckily nobody in my family was infected, and I hope it will remain that way. Sadly the vaccination program is too slow, mostly because the number of vaccines delivered is way under expected. But anyway we are much better than in the end of January.
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #376 on: February 13, 2021, 01:19:02 AM »
I'm sorry for your loss Maglor, and Grey, the lockdown situation sounds really hard, I hope it helps with the burden on the hospitals.
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #377 on: February 13, 2021, 11:32:45 AM »
I hate it when my pessimistic predictions are correct - B117, the "UK variant", is responsible for the outbreak in Newfoundland. Makes sense, given how fast it happened. At the last moment, they decided that the election scheduled for today would be entirely mail-in ballots, and gave people until Monday to request one. We have a 5-level alert system, and we were at level 2 with minimal restrictions. Last night we went straight to level 5. Definitely the right thing to do, maybe this can be contained.
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #378 on: February 13, 2021, 12:45:43 PM »
We have a 300-case outbreak of the South African and Brazilian variants combined in one of our Eastern departements, the part of the country that has a record of things happening in it first before they hit the rest of the country (for instance, things got bad enough in the general area for it to get a 6PM curfew a couple weeks before it was applied nationally).
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #379 on: February 14, 2021, 02:31:07 AM »
Precautions, curfews and lockdowns may save lives, and better to go to them sooner rather than later.

Australia has in general managed pretty well, but there have been a few worrying developments lately, notably the discovery that several of the recent outbreaks have stemmed from people who caught the disease either while in hotel quarantine, or while working in a quarantine hotel. Because the ventilation in hotels is generally lousy, certainly not medical grade, with all the rooms on a floor often being attached to the same ventilation ducts. Cheaper that way. So the virus has both spread from infected to uninfected people housed on the same floor through the air conditioning, or from staff delivering food opening a door to a room and having air containing an ærosol of infectious material puff out into the corridor. And in one recent case, because of a guest using a nebuliser in their room for medical reasons. The nebuliser created an ærosol containing virus particles which drifted out of their room. Worrying.

Makes you feel a certain sympathy for those folk who resisted hotel quarantine, early on, because they considered that it raised the chances of the uninfected getting infected while quarantined. But there is nowhere near enough protective gear for all staff, and as the ventilation is not medical-grade this was inevitable sooner or later.

I am reminded of the early days of research into Lassa Fever, another disease which could spread both by contact and by ærosol. Fortunately somebody realised that the disease was in the ærosol of rat urine from the experimental lab rats infected with Lassa Fever before too much got vented from the air conditioning outlet of a CDC lab into the streets of New York.

I do hope that this gets sorted out soon. It was a mistake to put hotel quarantine in the hands of private security firms in the first place, would likely have worked better with medical and military personnel in charge of quarantine in the first place. But politics and profit......
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #380 on: February 16, 2021, 03:58:29 AM »
Edit 2: Turns out that both "OP-Maske" and "medizinische Maske" are tied to EU norm EN 14683 (with rumors of "only class 3 thereof"), which doesn't necessarily appear on the mask itself beyond a bare CE sign (which has much lower requirements IIUC). See vendor's descriptions, and use of forgery blacklists might well be advisable ...
P.S.: Grabbed a 50-pack of "EN14683:2019+AC:2019 Type IIR" masks, a.k.a. "medical masks", yesterday as I came across them. There's absolutely nothing on the masks themselves, not even the general CE logo, that would allow someone to tell those from the entirely non-certified masks I already had a 50-pack of. (It's all stated on the packaging alone.) Enforcing the requirement that everyone walking into a shop must wear the former (or FFP2), not the latter, sounds more and more like a job for some specialists.
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #381 on: February 16, 2021, 07:28:54 AM »
P.S.: Grabbed a 50-pack of "EN14683:2019+AC:2019 Type IIR" masks, a.k.a. "medical masks", yesterday as I came across them. There's absolutely nothing on the masks themselves, not even the general CE logo, that would allow someone to tell those from the entirely non-certified masks I already had a 50-pack of. (It's all stated on the packaging alone.) Enforcing the requirement that everyone walking into a shop must wear the former (or FFP2), not the latter, sounds more and more like a job for some specialists.
Wait, you guys actually think on how to enforce requirements? Portuguese authorities usually let that part for later, when it's time to replace the obsolete requirement for a new one...
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #382 on: February 16, 2021, 08:29:28 AM »
Well some requirements are enforced and some not. It differs from state to state (and we have 16 of them). The actual enforment is in the responsibility of the states, and in some cases of the municipality. So sometimes you just have to go one or two kilometers to get a different law enforcement.

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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #383 on: February 16, 2021, 02:01:42 PM »
Michigan is getting better. We have the amount of cases equal to what it was during the first wave and it is getting to be even smaller, so we are good. Some restrictions are present, such as not more than two households in one house, etc. Restaurants, coffee shops and cinemas are open to half the capacity, which feels nice. That’s how much I can say.  ;) :lalli:
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #384 on: February 16, 2021, 04:49:01 PM »
Wait, you guys actually think on how to enforce requirements? Portuguese authorities usually let that part for later, when it's time to replace the obsolete requirement for a new one...
Oh, I'm not saying that the German authorities do not seem to be doing just that. But there's a twist to those thoughts: Legislation that declares something a misdemeanor but fails to threaten it with actual punishment - and IIUC plain unenforcability qualifies here - is to be ruled null and void when challenged in court ...

Well some requirements are enforced and some not. It differs from state to state (and we have 16 of them). The actual enforment is in the responsibility of the states, and in some cases of the municipality. So sometimes you just have to go one or two kilometers to get a different law enforcement.
To be fair, the beforehand passing of all this legalese is up to the states, too, at least so far; if it all were a federal matter, the regulations wouldn't look so disparate from one state to the next in the first place. The Bund-Länder-Beratungen are not a legislative organ - actually, not an official organ of anything.
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #385 on: February 17, 2021, 06:56:46 AM »
The five-day Stage 4 lockdown in Victoria ends in just over an hour. Restrictions remain, however. For those who are curious, here are the rules. For me, the most relevant is the continuing need to keep a mask on hand at all times.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-17/victorias-coronavirus-restrictions-update-explained/13163304?nw=0
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #386 on: February 17, 2021, 08:04:56 AM »
Things do sound better for you at present, Yastreb! Let us hope that things continue so!

We were over at Mount Barker today, seeing Star’s wound care specialist and doing some catchup shopping, and I was surprised how much it surprised the hospital staff when we used the Covid checkin app and were actually careful about distancing and hygiene protocol. I gather that doesn’t happen much there. I guess they will be seeing us often, because Star has three appointments a week there for the next month while they experiment with a new kind of pressure dressings for his legs. It always makes me nervous to be around a hospital so much during a pandemic, let’s hope the risk turns out worthwhile.

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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #387 on: February 17, 2021, 10:51:18 AM »
We were over at Mount Barker today, seeing Star’s wound care specialist and doing some catchup shopping, and I was surprised how much it surprised the hospital staff when we used the Covid checkin app and were actually careful about distancing and hygiene protocol. I gather that doesn’t happen much there. I guess they will be seeing us often, because Star has three appointments a week there for the next month while they experiment with a new kind of pressure dressings for his legs. It always makes me nervous to be around a hospital so much during a pandemic, let’s hope the risk turns out worthwhile.
Yes, it must be very stressing to be forced to go there, and so many times! But if it has to be this way... Luckily your numbers in AUS are quite low. Please stay as safe as possible, and tell Star I sent a hug to him.

Our numbers in Portugal have been dropping straight, and we're now below the averages from October-November, much much better than January's insane peak. :)
Still on lockdown for another month, anyway...
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #388 on: February 17, 2021, 03:00:26 PM »
We have had a flash 3-day lockdown here beginning Sunday at midnight and lifting last night (it's Thursday here already) at midnight.  Auckland was segregated from the rest of the country.  While the checkpoints are gone this morning, we are still in a higher alert level until Monday.  At least this level allows those of us in smaller workplaces to go to work, and I can go to band/orchestra rehearsals using distanced chair placements etc.  We can't perform, but can rehearse.  Public events scheduled for this weekend in Auckland are being postponed or cancelled, while events outside of the city can go ahead.  (Keep in mind that one-third of the whole country's population lives in greater Auckland.)
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Re: Covid 19 - Updates from your zones
« Reply #389 on: February 17, 2021, 06:23:44 PM »
I will pass on the hug. And I’m glad the numbers in Portugal are dropping again. Europe must be terrifying - so many people and so many cases! At least here the case numbers outside the big cities are low, and people are prepared to actually observe the protocols.
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