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Disqus, infected
« on: January 28, 2016, 05:28:50 PM »
Well, I'm afraid that the first wannabe trolls have come to SSSS' Disqus section to stay ...

http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=460#comment-2483580540
http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=460#comment-2483583264
http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=460#comment-2483783307

... so I guess I'll be keeping the PGP keypair at hand ... :(

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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2016, 06:52:35 PM »
Can I ask how the community generally handles this? I've refrained from getting involved because I don't know how well I could keep my cool, but I really hope I don't have to quit the comments section on this webcomic like I did the last two because they stopped being enjoyable to read. :(
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 06:59:34 PM »
Not knowing if there is a procedure in place, may I suggest one that has worked fairly well in another community I read at? 

1. Flag troll.
2. Reply "Flagged and ignored" to troll post.  Only those words.
3. Make new reply to non-troll post and continue conversation there.

Here's another, for less jerkish troll posts:

1. Make FAQ sticky post (is there one already?).
2. Reply "RTFAQ" to less jerkish troll post.
3. Make new reply to non-troll post and continue conversation there.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2016, 07:03:24 PM »
I suspect JoB is on it. I usually reply once or twice, since we've had a few people who started out talking like that because that was the only sort of commenting they were used to, but who learned manners and stayed to become productive and interesting members of the community, including one who is now a fine artist and a thoroughly nice man, but once it gets beyond three or four rude and ignorant comments I just ignore them. They're trolling for a reaction. Don't react.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 07:03:59 PM »
Can I ask how the community generally handles this? I've refrained from getting involved because I don't know how well I could keep my cool, but I really hope I don't have to quit the comments section on this webcomic like I did the last two because they stopped being enjoyable to read. :(

Minna is the comment section moderator, generally she's pretty good at keeping the comments a nice place to be. If things get out of hand there, I would go to her first. Minna is probably really good at cleansing *nodnods* I know she can also ban users from commenting on her page.

If it happened on the forum the moderators and admins here would evaluate the situation and act as necessary. 

Where ever they are, do not engage the trolls.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 07:12:10 PM »
Ah. So stand still and stay silent. Gotcha.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 07:13:30 PM »
Ah. So stand still and stay silent. Gotcha.

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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 07:40:18 PM »
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 10:57:04 PM »
Not knowing if there is a procedure in place, may I suggest one that has worked fairly well in another community I read at? 
1. Flag troll.
There's one teensy tiny problem with that, there is no moderator besides Minna herself for the Disqus comments, so large-handed flagging would threaten to overload the resources that we'ld rather have make more comic pages ...

2. Reply "Flagged and ignored" to troll post.  Only those words.
Ugh. Most trolls I've seen would see that as you confronting them and challenge you to "prove your ridiculous claim", which means that you're instantly in the defense.

I suspect JoB is on it.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 11:55:05 PM »
uh.....I mean the comments is definitely rude, but I don't see how the third comment is a troll? I think it's just a very poorly worded criticism. Not enough to justify being flagged as troll/spam?

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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 12:01:45 AM »
uh.....I mean the comments is definitely rude, but I don't see how the third comment is a troll? I think it's just a very poorly worded criticism. Not enough to justify being flagged as troll/spam?
It wasn't so much what they said there (though that was also kinda mean), but when other people said "I like the pace" and gave piles of evidence for Stuff Happening (even if there weren't grosslings or fire), they dismissed it as "fanboying"
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 12:12:44 AM »
JoB: as in drawing attention to it, bringing to peoples' notice.
Noodly: exactly that. It was unmannerly.
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 05:25:58 AM »
uh.....I mean the comments is definitely rude, but I don't see how the third comment is a troll? I think it's just a very poorly worded criticism. Not enough to justify being flagged as troll/spam?

This. I hope this community's definition of a troll isn't "someone who dares to criticize the perfect work of our lady and saviour" because then you're gonna have to ban me too. I've made almost the same comment as this guy a long time ago, and have criticized other things about the comic as well. The guy did give a somewhat rude reply to Aliax, but that's certainly not enough to call one a troll (I haven't seen other comments by him). He just said what he feels about the comic - and if I were Minna, I'd like to know these things. Some people aren't very pleasant but don't mean to cause trouble. Just don't engage with them and their comment gets drowned soon enough.

Also, JoB, your second link goes to one of your own comments, are you reporting yourself? ;)

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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 06:23:26 AM »
Also, JoB, your second link goes to one of your own comments, are you reporting yourself? ;)

There's been a few "JoB replying to JoB" comments lately. I suspect it's not humor on his part, but a troll using the same nickname (but we can't see the difference because neither is a registered Disqus account). I've been confused too
BTW JoB, even if you don't want to use it, maybe you should make a Disqus account (if you haven't already) to make sure no-one steals the nick. [actually there's a @JOB already, but...]
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Re: Disqus, infected
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 06:51:26 AM »
This. I hope this community's definition of a troll isn't "someone who dares to criticize the perfect work of our lady and saviour" because then you're gonna have to ban me too. I've made almost the same comment as this guy a long time ago, and have criticized other things about the comic as well. The guy did give a somewhat rude reply to Aliax, but that's certainly not enough to call one a troll (I haven't seen other comments by him). He just said what he feels about the comic - and if I were Minna, I'd like to know these things. Some people aren't very pleasant but don't mean to cause trouble. Just don't engage with them and their comment gets drowned soon enough.

I think one of the reasons for this response for the third comment is this post from early on in the forum's history. Now, because this comment was throwing criticism in a fan forum where Minna can't actually see the message, this is most definitely a troll, as it provoked many reactions to the post.*+ Apply this troll scan in every situation, and we get the third comment, which may or may not be a troll, as Minna would maybe have been able to read it. Of course, here, this person's intent is not as clear, so labelling them a troll may have been too soon.

*quote: In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement. From Wikipedia.

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