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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #930 on: July 08, 2016, 11:56:54 PM »
Mkay so it's over-analyzing time, but in the first panel of page 560 I feel like there's such a contrast between Reynir and Onni besides just the obvious of their expressions. First of all there's the color scheme, Reynir's part of the panel is a lot of warm colors mostly while Onni's part of the panel is a lot of cool colors. Then there's the shading, Reynir's part of the panel seems to have more of the light source directing shining on him and in general lighter while Onni's part of the panel is more shadows and shading. Then of course there's the obvious of their moods and expressions, Reynir's all warm and smiling and "sunny" while Onni's flinching away in terror. So much contrast I don't know if it's intentional or not but it adds so much mood to that panel.


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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #931 on: July 09, 2016, 01:50:31 AM »
Mkay so it's over-analyzing time, but in the first panel of page 560 I feel like there's such a contrast between Reynir and Onni besides just the obvious of their expressions. First of all there's the color scheme, Reynir's part of the panel is a lot of warm colors mostly while Onni's part of the panel is a lot of cool colors. Then there's the shading, Reynir's part of the panel seems to have more of the light source directing shining on him and in general lighter while Onni's part of the panel is more shadows and shading. Then of course there's the obvious of their moods and expressions, Reynir's all warm and smiling and "sunny" while Onni's flinching away in terror. So much contrast I don't know if it's intentional or not but it adds so much mood to that panel.

Yesss I definitely agree, I do feel like Minna does use color symbolism intentionally a lot of the time. (but then again I've written a paper on color symbolism in SSSS, so I'm also one for over-analyzing ::))


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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #932 on: July 09, 2016, 08:40:07 AM »
Yesss I definitely agree, I do feel like Minna does use color symbolism intentionally a lot of the time. (but then again I've written a paper on color symbolism in SSSS, so I'm also one for over-analyzing ::))

Okay that's really cool and I'd actually be interested in hearing some of your other analysis's :D

EDIT: Also, for anyone who doesn't look at the SSSS twitter apparently the second half of the story is going to get quite a bit more 'glum' and 'angsty' *anxious screaching*
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #933 on: July 09, 2016, 09:51:31 AM »
EDIT: Also, for anyone who doesn't look at the SSSS twitter apparently the second half of the story is going to get quite a bit more 'glum' and 'angsty' *anxious screaching*

Oh gods! D: Now I will just fret and fret and wonder what will happen! Ack! But thanks for the heads-up anyway, Juniper.

Yesss I definitely agree, I do feel like Minna does use color symbolism intentionally a lot of the time. (but then again I've written a paper on color symbolism in SSSS, so I'm also one for over-analyzing ::))

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #934 on: July 09, 2016, 09:58:46 AM »
EDIT: Also, for anyone who doesn't look at the SSSS twitter apparently the second half of the story is going to get quite a bit more 'glum' and 'angsty' *anxious screaching*

Wait wait wait angst?

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #935 on: July 09, 2016, 10:54:47 AM »
*rapidly shuffles through all of the most likely possibilities*

The Hotakainens: Did someone say "Saimaa"? I think someone did. Why did they relocate? What happened to their parents? Why do Tuuri, Lalli, and Onni all show signs of past trauma? What, exactly, is "It"? Will "It" show up again? (I think that "It" will.) Oh yes, not to mention that Tuuri just had to go and jinx things a few pages ago with all of her death flagging...

Emil: Ah, such an ill-adjusted ball of teenage boy insecurities. We know that Emil has had a lot of trouble relating to other people in the past, and yes, a good deal of this is his own fault. It's also hard not to pity him, though, since it's clear that his parents done goofed on a number of different points, and Emil has so much kindness and empathy buried under his "rich idiot" training, and he's been trying so hard to prove himself. Somehow I can't help but wonder whether the latter half of the story is where we'll really see Emil come into his own in the field - possibly because he's forced into it? (Hm, now wondering whether Emil's behavior when he's in danger contrasted with his behavior when Lalli's in danger might be some sort of foreshadowing?)

Sigrun: Why is she so dead set against backtracking? Something happened in her past, that much is clear, to convince her that it's never an acceptable course of action, that people will die if she does. And call it a hunch, but I can't shake the feeling that Sigrun is the one most likely to get seriously hurt at some point. (I'm keeping my blanket fort all nice and set up for self-burial.)

Mikkel: One word: Kastrup. I found his reaction when Sigrun was in mortal danger to be incredibly telling: up to that point he'd been keeping his distance from everyone, almost as if he didn't want to let himself get close to people, but went straight to being flat-out terrified for her sake. We know he's lost friends to Kastrup. There's also been a lot of speculation that he's here on his own mission, unbeknownst to any of the others. What I see here is Mikkel deliberately trying not to get too close to any of these people, possibly for multiple reasons, but he's slowly getting attached to them anyway, and at some point that's all going to come crashing down on his head, especially if he really does have more than one reason for joining the group that's eventually revealed to the others.

Reynir: Personally I think that Reynir might be heading for a massive existential crisis. His parents lied to him. Onni might be overprotective but at least he didn't try to force the issue; when Tuuri decided to leave on her own initiative, he let her. Reynir had to sneak away, and landed himself in a heap of trouble as a result. It strikes me that he hasn't yet expressed any anger over his parents' manipulation, but I wonder whether that might not be about to change after he meets them again, after having developed his confidence, discovered his magic, and picked up a greater degree of self-reliance?

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #936 on: July 09, 2016, 11:30:35 AM »
EDIT: Also, for anyone who doesn't look at the SSSS twitter apparently the second half of the story is going to get quite a bit more 'glum' and 'angsty' *anxious screaching*
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #937 on: July 09, 2016, 11:31:22 AM »
*rapidly shuffles through all of the most likely possibilities*

The Hotakainens: Did someone say "Saimaa"? I think someone did. Why did they relocate? What happened to their parents? Why do Tuuri, Lalli, and Onni all show signs of past trauma? What, exactly, is "It"? Will "It" show up again? (I think that "It" will.) Oh yes, not to mention that Tuuri just had to go and jinx things a few pages ago with all of her death flagging...

Emil: Ah, such an ill-adjusted ball of teenage boy insecurities. We know that Emil has had a lot of trouble relating to other people in the past, and yes, a good deal of this is his own fault. It's also hard not to pity him, though, since it's clear that his parents done goofed on a number of different points, and Emil has so much kindness and empathy buried under his "rich idiot" training, and he's been trying so hard to prove himself. Somehow I can't help but wonder whether the latter half of the story is where we'll really see Emil come into his own in the field - possibly because he's forced into it? (Hm, now wondering whether Emil's behavior when he's in danger contrasted with his behavior when Lalli's in danger might be some sort of foreshadowing?)

Sigrun: Why is she so dead set against backtracking? Something happened in her past, that much is clear, to convince her that it's never an acceptable course of action, that people will die if she does. And call it a hunch, but I can't shake the feeling that Sigrun is the one most likely to get seriously hurt at some point. (I'm keeping my blanket fort all nice and set up for self-burial.)

Mikkel: One word: Kastrup. I found his reaction when Sigrun was in mortal danger to be incredibly telling: up to that point he'd been keeping his distance from everyone, almost as if he didn't want to let himself get close to people, but went straight to being flat-out terrified for her sake. We know he's lost friends to Kastrup. There's also been a lot of speculation that he's here on his own mission, unbeknownst to any of the others. What I see here is Mikkel deliberately trying not to get too close to any of these people, possibly for multiple reasons, but he's slowly getting attached to them anyway, and at some point that's all going to come crashing down on his head, especially if he really does have more than one reason for joining the group that's eventually revealed to the others.

Reynir: Personally I think that Reynir might be heading for a massive existential crisis. His parents lied to him. Onni might be overprotective but at least he didn't try to force the issue; when Tuuri decided to leave on her own initiative, he let her. Reynir had to sneak away, and landed himself in a heap of trouble as a result. It strikes me that he hasn't yet expressed any anger over his parents' manipulation, but I wonder whether that might not be about to change after he meets them again, after having developed his confidence, discovered his magic, and picked up a greater degree of self-reliance?

*looks at time*

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I like all of these possibilities. And by "like" I mean any one of them would probably turn me into a sobbing mess. : D Great ideas! (I wonder which one it will be... Or something else entirely? )

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #938 on: July 09, 2016, 11:42:39 AM »
I like all of these possibilities. And by "like" I mean any one of them would probably turn me into a sobbing mess. : D Great ideas! (I wonder which one it will be... Or something else entirely? )

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...all of them? Plus a few murderghosts thrown in?

And thank you! *bows* I never feel like I truly belong to a fandom until I've made someone cry. >:D
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #939 on: July 09, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »
Could be all of them and then some! I think I can handle exploring dark past, I actually want to see that and there are so many open questions on that front. Of course it all ties together, but I'm more worried that there's something truly terrifying in their future, or something that takes two years in our time to resolve.

Come to think of it, fan theories about the Hotakainen backstory for example already are remarkably darker than what has been explored in the actual storyline, and if some of that turns out to be canon - not just implied but actually handled in the story - it's going to be a quite different mood. I think the question pressing me is 'how much worse does it get'. :S

Oh well, if it's the future you're talking about...

  • They still have to deal with those murderghosts
  • A kade enters the story
  • "It" catches up with them
  • Someone gets seriously hurt (right now my bet is on Sigrun, then Lalli, though Emil is also a prime candidate)
  • Infection scare with one of the non-immunes
  • Actual infection with one of the non-immunes, and they end up having to put that cure to the test
  • They end up trapped in the Silent World with all of its dangers into the spring or summer
  • They lose the tank

...come to think of it, I've already written a fair number of those. Yaaas, my fics are now vindicated.

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #940 on: July 09, 2016, 02:29:19 PM »
Oh well, if it's the future you're talking about...

  • They still have to deal with those murderghosts
  • A kade enters the story
  • "It" catches up with them
  • Someone gets seriously hurt (right now my bet is on Sigrun, then Lalli, though Emil is also a prime candidate)
  • Infection scare with one of the non-immunes
  • Actual infection with one of the non-immunes, and they end up having to put that cure to the test
  • They end up trapped in the Silent World with all of its dangers into the spring or summer
  • They lose the tank

...come to think of it, I've already written a fair number of those. Yaaas, my fics are now vindicated.



I know I've said this like five times but at this point I almost want a kade to enter the story so we can see a good ol' magic brawl between the kade and any combination of our three mages.

Also, quite a few of my friend IRL are talking about how weird it is that this is a post-apocalyptic story and there's been no major character death so far. It would be really cool if it could stay that way and everything, and I'd dread a major character death to be any of the younger four crew members because they're all precious little babies, but I think especially something happening to Lalli or Reynir would absolutely destroy me, but I don't think with how much investment into character building that's been put into those two that we'd get a major character death from them, right ?!?


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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #941 on: July 09, 2016, 02:38:00 PM »
I know I've said this like five times but at this point I almost want a kade to enter the story so we can see a good ol' magic brawl between the kade and any combination of our three mages.
I also would love to see a kade come into the story. That would be so cool!

But no character deaths, please. Eris does not want that.

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #942 on: July 09, 2016, 03:54:20 PM »
I don't actually think that anyone's going to die. How close they can come, though, is another matter entirely...
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #943 on: July 09, 2016, 04:30:45 PM »
I don't actually think that anyone's going to die.
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« Reply #944 on: July 09, 2016, 04:46:41 PM »
I don't actually think that anyone's going to die. How close they can come, though, is another matter entirely...
then again very few people thought Lalli would start to learn Swedish most people thought only Emil would learn Finnish if they ever learned a mutual language but this is probably me being paranoid

But ahh yeah character near deaths / death scares, that had me thinking we've seen it happen like three times now that either Lalli's been in danger or Emil thought he was in danger and Emil freaks out a little but we haven't really seen much of the opposite happening, what if we saw Emil have a near death experience and actually get some sort of strong emotional reaction out of Lalli from that ?


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