Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat

[kjeks]

Well then, I guess the topic in here is done, since it is the comic UPDATE Chitchat and all is said on the matter so far. Let's see what tomorrow's page has to offer.

Edit: Welcome to the board Nanao, we've got an introductory topic over here. Take a in the meantime

[Nanao]

Well then, I guess the topic in here is done, since it is the comic UPDATE Chitchat and all is said on the matter so far. Let's see what tomorrow's page has to offer.

Edit: Welcome to the board Nanao, we've got an introductory topic over here. Take a in the meantime

Hello! it's nice that you welcomed me even if we maybe disagreed on some parts, I almost never log into forums but I'll take a look at introduction thread.

[Puls3]

I just wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly with what has been said by forumers like Lazy8, Juniper and Superdark33 in this thread.

I haven't been very active on the forum or disqus before this event, but my feelings have been tarnished ever since I've gotten into the cause of this ongoing conflict (with seemingly no happy ending in sight, but hopefully I'm wrong about that). It was one thing with Minna doing an honest mistake, but not acknowledging her mistakes by refusing to apologise and prohibiting anyone from trying to make her realise that the phrase 'Ching chong' hurt a lot of people's feelings is just downright disrespectful.

The people who are ferociously defending Minna's behaviour is close to some sort of fanaticism.

Don't take me wrong, I admire Minna Immensely as an artist and I do like the fandom. This is as mentioned earlier, the ugly part of the fandom revealing itself.

But the thing that is distressing me the most is that I've been hearing of unfair treatment taking place in different threads of the forum and the mere thought of looking into it is making me sick as I've been a part of this fandom for almost 2 years now and never even realised it myself (I feel awful for not seeing it sooner).

Maybe we should acknowledge the flaws of this forum. I must be part of the problem as I have for all this time been unaware of (or even denying) the unfair behaviour that hurt so many people's feelings way before this mess even took place.

And instead of hoping that everything will turn back to normal, we should try to do something against the bad sides of this fandom and dare to say no to unfair treatment of other fans of different backgrounds. Because if this blows over and everyone pretends like nothing happened, then this will turn into just another fandom where fans blindly praises the creator's every move even if it's something that is hurtful to others as they shamelessly crushes anyone who dare to speak their mind.

I will probably, peek into to the forum (usually spend my time in the general discussions board and the art thread) once in a while and crack a lame joke over at disqus as I enjoy the comic and admire the artwork, but I feel that things will never be the same again after this. Hopefully I'm wrong about that too as there are a lot of good hearted and wonderful people in this community that I'd like to know better before it is too late.

I'm sorry if this all sounds like a bunch of bs, but I felt that I had to let it all out in one go.

Edit: I'm so sorry kjeks, didn't realise that there were new posts.

[Hrollo]

It was one thing with Minna doing an honest mistake, but not acknowledging her mistakes by refusing to apologise and prohibiting anyone from trying to make her realise that the phrase "Ching chong" hurt a lot of people's feelings is just downright disrespectful.

But that's false. She aknowleged it was wrong, and changed it.

Maybe we should acknowledge the flaws of this forum.

Like the time we opened an NSFW board in spite of protests to make the shippers and sexy-material lovers feel more welcome, maybe?

And instead of hoping that everything will turn back to normal, we should try to do something against the bad sides of this fandom and dare to say no to unfair treatment of other fans of different backgrounds. Because if this blows over and everyone pretends like nothing happened, then this will turn into just another fandom where fans blindly praises the creator's every move even if it's something that is hurtful to others as they shamelessly crushes anyone who dare to speak their mind.

This is not what happened at all. She made a mistake, was violently called out over it, and still in spite of that took over herself to fix the mistake, to most people's satistfaction. What more do you want, a struggle session?

[BlueAmaranth]

What more do you want, a struggle session?

Well, here's all I want: "Sorry, my bad," and for my comments on the subject to stop disappearing from Disqus.

[viola]

Well then, I guess the topic in here is done, since it is the comic UPDATE Chitchat and all is said on the matter so far. Let's see what tomorrow's page has to offer.

Just mentioning this request again. I would like to ask everyone politley to move on to discussion of the current pages.

Thank you for understanding.

[Puls3]

I'm sorry that I got biased Rollo, I was frustrated that people are not given the same opportunity to express their opinions without getting their comments deleted like what happened to BlueAmaranth.

And even though Minna did acknowledge that what she did was wrong (got too quick on writing the opposite in my earlier comment, so that's on me) she didn't come out with an official apology and only seemingly smoothed things over with people she privately messaged with, leaving other people without a "sorry, didn't mean to be hurtful."

I should also have acknowledged the awful things that was made against her which is completely unacceptable.

But I still feel that there are more things that could be done to make everyone feel welcome in this forum. 

[viola]

But I still feel that there are more things that could be done to make everyone feel welcome in this forum. 

If you have some suggestions I would be happy to hear them. Please pm me or post them in the suggestion area so we can work on making things better. None of us are perfect.

[BlueAmaranth]

I'll stop talking about it here, sorry, but is there somewhere else on the forum that would be a more appropriate place to discuss this?

[viola]

I'll stop talking about it here, sorry, but is there somewhere else on the forum that would be a more appropriate place to discuss this?

What sort of thread do you think it would fit best in? I can ask the mods if we can reopen the thread about races in ssss, or would you suggest a different topic?

[BlueAmaranth]

I'm too new to the forum to really know where it would fit best, but a thread about races does sound like it would work. Or even a topic specifically about the recent controversy. Whatever is appropriate to the forum culture, I guess? I'm happy with wherever it is as long as it's somewhere.

[Juniper]

What sort of thread do you think it would fit best in? I can ask the mods if we can reopen the thread about races in ssss, or would you suggest a different topic?

I think the idea if the mods agree to it of re-opening the races in ssss thread might be a good idea for this debate to move to, especially considering that a lot of this debate seems to be extending off of the original one discussed in that thread.

[viola]

I'm too new to the forum to really know where it would fit best, but a thread about races does sound like it would work. Or even a topic specifically about the recent controversy. Whatever is appropriate to the forum culture, I guess? I'm happy with wherever it is as long as it's somewhere.

I think the idea if the mods agree to it of re-opening the races in ssss thread might be a good idea for this debate to move to, especially considering that a lot of this debate seems to be extending off of the original one discussed in that thread.

If you give us about 24 hours (we are all on different time zones) to discuss it, I've posed the question of reopening the thread to the moderation team. We will figure out a place where it can fit provided the discussion remains civil and mature. Knowing the people here though, I think it is possible.

[BlueAmaranth]

Thanks!

[viola]

Thanks!

No problem

In the future if anyone has suggestions please don't be afraid to bring them to us. I promise I don't actually eat people.