Wiki discussion

[Fimbulvarg]

Yup, it was a reaction to the aged browser. Forget I said anything.

Nah, you'll never live this down.

I was thinking (somehow), the front page looks a little bit hodgepodge. The slider thing is great, but maybe we could consider getting some sort of organised layout for it. I was thinking something similar (but not necessarily identical) to this wiki's layout could be viable.

[JoB]

maybe we could consider getting some sort of organised layout for it. I was thinking something similar (but not necessarily identical) to this wiki's layout could be viable.

Heh. That one's based on the "Monobook" style that they want supplanted with "Wikias new Look" (see selection box on the first tab of your user settings), isn't it?

[Solovei]

I too have been thinking about cleaning up the front page, but I'm kind of scared to screw it up beyond recognition.

The biggest problem I see to changing the layout is that ad that shows up. Normally it wouldn't be too hard to work around it, but the box for it seems to vary in length depending on exactly what ad comes up, which makes it really hard to ensure that it won't spontaneously push all the stuff down and leave a giant blank space.

[JoB]

Umh, Solovei? You are aware that a) renaming the page to something else than "The Cat-tank" will leave a redirection under that name, requiring admin intervention to actually erase it, and b) the Nordic council logo has five points while the expedition logo has six, yes ... ?

[Solovei]

Umh, Solovei? You are aware that a) renaming the page to something else than "The Cat-tank" will leave a redirection under that name, requiring admin intervention to actually erase it, and b) the Nordic council logo has five points while the expedition logo has six, yes ... ?

Oh, does it? Hmm. I hadn't considered that. I do feel like we need a page for it and I wasn't sure what else to call it. I'll sort out the redirection thing with my admin powers, don't worry.

Yeessss, there is some difference, but it's still incorporated into the design. Someone on the comments (I think) said the sixth, empty shape was for the Silent World.

[JoB]

Oh, does it? Hmm. I hadn't considered that. I do feel like we need a page for it and I wasn't sure what else to call it. I'll sort out the redirection thing with my admin powers, don't worry.

Alright, techdata bomb run scheduled for this eve ...

Someone on the comments (I think) said the sixth, empty shape was for the Silent World.

That has been one of the two most popular theories in the comments ever since we've seen the Nordic Council symbol (the other being that there's one tip for each crew member, and the hollow one being Braidy), but the cat-tank showing the six-points symbol with the flags' colors is the first thing to officially suggest they're as much as related ...

[JoB]

I'll sort out the redirection thing with my admin powers, don't worry.

Speaking of that, could you please overpower the redirection named "Arni Thor Reynisson" and pointing to Arnis entry in the Prologue Characters page?

[Solovei]

Speaking of that, could you please overpower the redirection named "Arni Thor Reynisson" and pointing to Arnis entry in the Prologue Characters page?

Sure!

[Solovei]

I wanted to get everyone's opinion on this: do the Oresundsbro Base and the Oresund Bridge need separate pages? Or should the bridge be described as a feature of the base. I'm thinking given the fact that it existed pre-rash, it can stand to be on it's own, but plot-wise they kind of go together, so... I'm not sure.

Also, the Cat-tank page is currently orphaned! Can anyone add some links to it from other pages? It has a lot of links out but not any links in.

[Fimbulvarg]

I wanted to get everyone's opinion on this: do the Oresundsbro Base and the Oresund Bridge need separate pages? Or should the bridge be described as a feature of the base. I'm thinking given the fact that it existed pre-rash, it can stand to be on it's own, but plot-wise they kind of go together, so... I'm not sure.

Also, the Cat-tank page is currently orphaned! Can anyone add some links to it from other pages? It has a lot of links out but not any links in.

I'd like fewer and bigger articles (not sure why), but I think your argument for creating a separate article is convincing. I suppose we'll see how much of the bridge we get to see, but if I know JoB he'll manage to spin a small essay out of whatever we get.

[JoB]

I wanted to get everyone's opinion on this: do the Oresundsbro Base and the Oresund Bridge need separate pages? Or should the bridge be described as a feature of the base. I'm thinking given the fact that it existed pre-rash, it can stand to be on it's own, but plot-wise they kind of go together, so... I'm not sure.

As of today, the actual bridge is connected to a tunnel (that Minna already confirmed to still be in existence and operation in year 90) on the artificial island of Peberholm, that resurfaces near the Copenhagen airport, which might be the derelict airport seen in the other team "photo"; all of these features might not only happen to have a relevant pre-Rash history but also a during-Danish-reconquest-attempts history, yadda yadda, possibly leading to a page way longer than the one on the base - where, as it turns out, we have only the here and now to report.

I might be infamous for inflating minuscule pages into PhD theses, but if nobody were to create said pages beforehand, I'ld prefer to delay such decisions until the storyline telegraphs "alright we're done with this item for the moment".

Also, the Cat-tank page is currently orphaned! Can anyone add some links to it from other pages? It has a lot of links out but not any links in.

It is not (confirms the relevant special page), at least the Öresundsbro Base article links to it. (Added one from "Plot Outline", though. More links from "Table of Contents" and/or "Table of Special Pages" will likely follow.)

[JoB]

We seem to have a new contributor on the Wiki with, ummh ... IMHO mixed results. On one hand, I like the "Characters" template and the use of "location" infoboxes fine and will have a look at expanding those ideas to other categories when time permits. On the other hand, we now have a "Dalahästen giant" page essentially narrating the scene, with a lot of not-quite-factual detail, another page on "Scandinavia" and how the meaning has supposedly changed post-Rash, and a bunch of added redirections to existing pages a la "Tuuri" -> "Tuuri Hotakainen" or "Troll" -> "Trolls". (Middle ground provided by adding a category "Giants" besides "Creatures" and renaming a couple pages so as to remove the leading article.)

Would someone like to play second (actually third and counting) opinion there ... ?

[Sunflower]

As of today, the actual bridge is connected to a tunnel (that Minna already confirmed to still be in existence and operation in year 90) on the artificial island of Peberholm, that resurfaces near the Copenhagen airport, which might be the derelict airport seen in the other team "photo"; all of these features might not only happen to have a relevant pre-Rash history but also a during-Danish-reconquest-attempts history, yadda yadda, possibly leading to a page way longer than the one on the base - where, as it turns out, we have only the here and now to report.

I might be infamous for inflating minuscule pages into PhD theses, but if nobody were to create said pages beforehand, I'ld prefer to delay such decisions until the storyline telegraphs "alright we're done with this item for the moment".
It is not (confirms the relevant special page), at least the Öresundsbro Base article links to it. (Added one from "Plot Outline", though. More links from "Table of Contents" and/or "Table of Special Pages" will likely follow.)

Given the suspenseful turn of events on p. 201 as Tuuri drives the stagecoach Cattank over the frail log road, I think the Öresundsbro Bridge definitely deserves its own page!  (Hopefully not with its own list of casualties...)

[Nimphy]

Given the suspenseful turn of events on p. 201 as Tuuri drives the stagecoach Cattank over the frail log road, I think the Öresundsbro Bridge definitely deserves its own page!  (Hopefully not with its own list of casualties...)

I created it a couple of days ago, but could never finish more than a line of introduction for technical reasons (mostly consisting in "Nimphy, give me the computer!!")

[Solovei]

We seem to have a new contributor on the Wiki with, ummh ... IMHO mixed results. On one hand, I like the "Characters" template and the use of "location" infoboxes fine and will have a look at expanding those ideas to other categories when time permits. On the other hand, we now have a "Dalahästen giant" page essentially narrating the scene, with a lot of not-quite-factual detail, another page on "Scandinavia" and how the meaning has supposedly changed post-Rash, and a bunch of added redirections to existing pages a la "Tuuri" -> "Tuuri Hotakainen" or "Troll" -> "Trolls". (Middle ground provided by adding a category "Giants" besides "Creatures" and renaming a couple pages so as to remove the leading article.)

Would someone like to play second (actually third and counting) opinion there ... ?

yeah, I noticed that too. I do like the infoboxes they're using for countries (and was, incidentally, wondering if it would be worthwhile to add pre-Rash demographics?) but there is just... way too many categories and pages now. I don't know if we need a category called "people" if we already have one called "characters" that was doing nicely. There are also pages for each nationality which contain largely the same information that is already in the "known so-and-so" under the country pages. Personally, I'd prefer to have less individual pages but with more information, so as not to create too many stub articles (as this person seems to be doing...)

Also, this page outlining the speculated (?) family tree linking the prologue characters to our heroes also was created by that same person, and while I understand that it took a lot of work, it's difficult to read and not really needed since we have the list of prologue characters who share last names and facial features with our main cast. Even then, realizing that "OH MY GOD THEY'RE RELATED" I feel like is an important part of reading the comic, and I'd rather not spoil that.

Sorry if this turned out kind of long. This person clearly wants to help and I appreciate that, they seem to know a lot about Wiki coding, but... I don't know if they're entirely clear on the direction we're taking this.