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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1035 on: November 21, 2022, 10:39:08 AM »
here is my cold take.

Nice! and it manages to tie together all those loose ends and contradictions!

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1036 on: November 22, 2022, 06:59:13 AM »
Dmeck, I really enjoyed the story!  <3 Well done! (Lines below are from my AO3 comment)

Loved the "Emil was a prick".
It offers a fitting (while awful) explanation for the fire, for Emil being a lone child, even for his greedy side...
And, of course, for his connection with fire. I would surely enjoy more stories where his "powers" begin to show.

All that said I'll assume this as my headcanon from now on.

PS. Prodigy's "Firestarter" comes to mind as a possible soundtrack for the second part when things go downhill
(warning, this is a bit on the heavy/noisy side, and definitively not everybody's cup of tea)
Spoiler: show

and also the homonymous 1984 film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestarter_(1984_film)

Jitter, such beautiful pictures! They make me wish we had snow here... And Tapio's table is so nice. Thanks for sharing it. :)
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1037 on: November 22, 2022, 09:37:37 AM »
Dmeck, I really enjoyed the story!  <3 Well done! (Lines below are from my AO3 comment)

Loved the "Emil was a prick".
It offers a fitting (while awful) explanation for the fire, for Emil being a lone child, even for his greedy side...
And, of course, for his connection with fire. I would surely enjoy more stories where his "powers" begin to show.

All that said I'll assume this as my headcanon from now on.

PS. Prodigy's "Firestarter" comes to mind as a possible soundtrack for the second part when things go downhill
(warning, this is a bit on the heavy/noisy side, and definitively not everybody's cup of tea)
Spoiler: show

and also the homonymous 1984 film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestarter_(1984_film)

Jitter, such beautiful pictures! They make me wish we had snow here... And Tapio's table is so nice. Thanks for sharing it. :)

Thank you
Grey.. You are correct, that was loud. It would blast your ear buds right off
I remember that movie.  I actually liked the book much more than the movie. 

I thought of all the conversations about Emil and Emil's parents and thought I'd try and incorporate it as one cohesive mass (or mess ha ha)

It kinda made me think about a country song written in 1975 (yeah, I'm old) sung by an American Artist Named David Allen Coe
Spoiler: show


Well, a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song
And he told me it was the perfect country & western song
I wrote him back a letter and I told him it was not the perfect country & western song
Because he hadn't said anything at all about mama
Or trains, or trucks, or prison, or getting' drunk
Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me
And after reading it I realized that my friend had written the perfect country & western song
And I felt obliged to include it on this album
The last verse goes like this here
Well, I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
She got run over by a damned old train




Jitter,
Does “Tapio’s Table” grow outside of Northern Europe?  For some reason, They look like something I have seen in the woods of Northern Maine.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1038 on: November 22, 2022, 01:58:59 PM »
Dmeck, the ones we have here form in/of Norwegian spruce, and I assume they may occur everywhere it grows, which is the Nordics, mountains (cool regions) in Europe, and much of the European part of Russia. In other areas there are different conifers that are similar in form, which might well also occasionally develop similar form. It can happen as a mutation or as result of “trauma”, if the upwards leading part (I know it has a name but I can’t recall) breaks off when the tree is small, and for some reason none of the other branches become the new upwards leading part.

There are dozens of flat and wide cultivars of various conifers, and all of those have occurred naturally  somewhere, so yes, you may well have seen a similar form even outside of the range of the Picea abies.

Did you know that most cultivars of conifers are clones of one single specimen?
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1039 on: November 22, 2022, 11:19:13 PM »
Several Japanese conifers have that form in nature, and in mountainous areas of Ireland, Scotland, the North of England and some colder parts of Europe I have seen big old Juniper bushes growing in flat layers. Have also seen them doing that in old European-style gardens in the Dandenong Ranges of Victoria, and in Gippsland, including the early-settler farm where one of my relatives lived. The nice thing about such juniper bushes is that when you are camping or hiking and unexpected snow or hail comes on, snuggled in between the layers is a good place to sleep, and is comparatively warm.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1040 on: November 23, 2022, 04:30:28 AM »
Flat growing juniper could also be a Tapio’s Table.

One example in particular I read about the custom was taking rhe  first birf caught in a hunting trip, boil it with feathers still attached, and leave on the table as offering. The current understanding of the custom spans only for a few hundred years though, so we don’t know the actual usage and signifigance during prehistory. As applies to everything PREhistory.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1041 on: November 23, 2022, 08:40:20 AM »
Dmeck, the ones we have here form in/of Norwegian spruce, and I assume they may occur everywhere it grows, which is the Nordics, mountains (cool regions) in Europe, and much of the European part of Russia. In other areas there are different conifers that are similar in form, which might well also occasionally develop similar form. It can happen as a mutation or as result of “trauma”, if the upwards leading part (I know it has a name but I can’t recall) breaks off when the tree is small, and for some reason none of the other branches become the new upwards leading part.

There are dozens of flat and wide cultivars of various conifers, and all of those have occurred naturally  somewhere, so yes, you may well have seen a similar form even outside of the range of the Picea abies.

Did you know that most cultivars of conifers are clones of one single specimen?

I did not know that Conifers were clones, but there is an organism in Utah that is supposed to be the largest tree in the world.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pando-the-trembling-giant
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/fishlake/home/?cid=STELPRDB5393641

I did look up the types of trees that are native Maine has lots of Norway Spruce.  It was imported and grown as a lumber product, so it could very well be those.  Plus other species of spruce, juniper etc..
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1042 on: November 23, 2022, 10:42:37 AM »
Fate gives all of us three teachers, three friends, three enemies, and three great loves in our lives. But these twelve are always disguised, and we never know which one is which until we've loved them, left them, or fought them.

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1043 on: November 23, 2022, 01:50:28 PM »
Mostly conifers aren’t but the special forms grown in gardens such as thuja globes or creeping junipers often are grown from a single naturally mutated specimen.

I knew about the aspen grove, but recently a seagrass meadow has been found to be even bigger: https://theconversation.com/meet-the-worlds-largest-plant-a-single-seagrass-clone-stretching-180-km-in-western-australias-shark-bay-184056
But I also seem to remember something about a mycelium that is even larger, it just lives hidden in the soil. I’ll see if I can find something about it.

I’ll also proceed to read about Onni!
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1044 on: November 23, 2022, 02:10:23 PM »
Such love for Onni 😍

The mycelium I was thinking about is the Humongous fungus in Oregon, but it’s unclear whether it’s actually connected and thus a continuous single organism throughout. The seagrass mentioned earlier has such a ridiculously large area that it will be heavier than the Humongous fungus anyways.
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1045 on: November 26, 2022, 01:24:03 AM »
I have been away and busy with life stuff so long! But now I might have a little time to write, again, and I have updated one of my long-term WIPs, the one about Emil trying to be accepted by the Finnish gods. The first chapter was my response to the Emil prompt; perhaps the second one, which uses an Onni POV, might work for the Onni prompt?  (Warning for vague mentions of Emilalli.)
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1046 on: November 26, 2022, 10:13:09 AM »
I have been away and busy with life stuff so long! But now I might have a little time to write, again, and I have updated one of my long-term WIPs, the one about Emil trying to be accepted by the Finnish gods. The first chapter was my response to the Emil prompt; perhaps the second one, which uses an Onni POV, might work for the Onni prompt?  (Warning for vague mentions of Emilalli.)

Very nice!  I am glad you have time to write.  How's the world traveling going?
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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1047 on: November 27, 2022, 10:59:45 AM »
We belong to the forest

The first days had been a blur. They were put into a big and fancy room (“just on a very temporary basis, you understand, until we work this out”). The best thing about the room were its sturdy walls, door and window shutters. The second best was the wide bed, which was almost uncannily soft, and easily big enough for the three of them. The kids went out like a lantern the minute they lay down on the bed. And truth be told, he didn’t take long to fall asleep either. It was the first protected bed they had had for months.

The good night’s sleep was needed the very next day, when everyone was suddenly expecting him to have a plan, proof of his education, and, apparently, quite a lot of money. He of course had none of these things. On the one hand he was secretly proud that everyone treated him as a full adult. The flip side was of course the expectations. As an adult he should know everything and be on top of things. Just like every proper adult was!

He went around many offices, where he had to explain their situation as well as their parentage, again and again. At first the people he met also wanted him to talk about the Events, but every time he was asked, he felt Lalli’s little fist tightening on his tunic. So, usually it was enough to say “We are from Toivosaari” and gesture towards the wide-eyed child.

When it was established that he didn’t indeed have enough money to rent in the civilian quarters (or buy food for more than about a week, for that matter), he was urgently ushered (back) to the Quartermaster’s office, and then to the Staffing office, and back to the Quartermaster again. For a while he was afraid they’d be kicked out after all (“well, obviously, we cannot deny you our protection, but also, obviously, the lodgings are rented, not just given out”), but finally someone sent him to the Mages’ office, and he was promptly hired as a Junior Defense Noita.  Normally a Junior Noita would be put into the big barracks, but with the children it was decided that they got a private room. (“She’s ten years old, she can’t go to the women’s barracks alone, and certainly not into the men’s common room”).

So, now, everything was in order. The room was small, but there was talk that two private rooms could probably be connected for them later. They were all allowed to eat at the common hall (or, in case of Lalli, got food brought to him from the common hall). They had gone to see the wall several times, and Tuuri was cautiously starting to relax.

He didn’t think he would ever be happy again, but now things were as good as they were going to get. He should feel… maybe not good, but better. In reality he was terribly anxious. He had a job, upon which depended not only his own livelihood but the children too. Grandma had made sure he was good at following orders, but this was a different kind of responsibility. The mages knew Ensi by reputation, but they didn’t know him, and he didn’t know them.

And the people! They were everywhere! Many hundreds, if that could be believed! So incredibly many people lived in Keuruu that it made his head spin. There were more people than their whole village simultaneously at dinner in the common hall! How was he supposed to ever know the names of so many people, let alone forge the relationships based on familiarity and mutual respect that life in a community was based on? Just thinking about it made his head spin. It was so overwhelming.

“Are you sad?” Lalli was staring at him.

“N-no! Everything is fine! I’m just a bit tired, is all!”

“You are sad.”

“Well, maybe just a bit. But it will pass,”

“No”

“No? What do you mean?”

“You will stay sad.”

“Why do you say that?”

“Grandma says… said… that we belong to the forest.”

“Yes? Yes, she… did.”

“You will stay sad, if you don’t go into the forest.”

The little gremlin had a point. It would be so much easier to breathe in a forest (one on a safe island of course - he’d always hated the trips to the shore where you never knew which direction a grossling would come from). To touch the trees, and only hear birds sing, instead of the never ending hubbub of the big city. The longing brought tears to his eyes.

“Well, Lalli, we must stay safe within the walls. I cannot go to the forest anymore.”

“We belong to the forest!”

“Don’t worry, Mielikki and Tapio will hear us from here too. And Vellamo is in this lake just like she is in Saimaa. We must get used to this.”

“No! Forest!” Lalli was practically in tears too.

“Oh Lalli, you at least will be able to go when you are older. Remember that I’m not immune.”

“Forest! Now! Come!” Lalli was tugging at his hand.

He recognized the signs and knew it’d be best to follow. He sincerely hoped Lali would calm down enough for him to be able to stop the kid from scaling the wall. But Lalli was not going for the gate. Instead he started north towards the fields. Seeing that he was following, Lalli stopped pulling him along and concentrated to the surroundings. It was amazing how much like Ensi he was already, at eight years old.

They passed the fields, and some remains of what had been Old World ruins (“don’t you worry a bit, it’s been cleansed many times over!”) and then turned to the east.

“Lalli? Where are we going?”

“Forest. I told you. Tyhmä!”

”Seriously Lalli, we cannot go outside. It’s too dangerous. Besides I’m in the military now, it will be an offense to leave the area without permission”.

“Shhh!”

The child was infuriating. He loved Lalli, but, what a crazy critter!

After a while the path left the fields and they were surrounded by trees. Lalli stepped off the path and walked between the trees. He followed. They climbed up a small hill, now fully surrounded by big tress. At the top of the hill, Lalli pointed to a very large tree.

“Come. Climb.”

“I’m not as agile as…” he started, but hitto (heck), they’d come all this way, and they were away from the wall. If humoring Lalli would help him settle down, he could do a bit of climbing.

The tree was actually a very easy climb. Soon he was up with Lalli, nestled in a sturdy fork in the trunk.

“So. Here we are.”
“Yes. Forest. Look.” Lalli was pointing northwards.

And indeed, they were so much higher that the wall, paths and small buildings were not immediately visible. Looking towards the north they could see trees upon trees upon trees, extending to unfathomable distance. In a way, it was scary, as it showed exactly what a tiny island of humanity in a sea of forest Keuruu really was.

But at the same time, it was utterly glorious. All that life extending in front of them. Certainly, many dangers lurked in that forest, but the trees and the birds were alive, and the ferns and the small buzzing things, and flowers and mosses and all manners of creepy crawlies. The world was hurt and life was still struggling, but not beaten. Never beaten.

“It’s marvelous. Thank you Lalli.”
“We belong to the forest.”

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1048 on: November 27, 2022, 11:42:03 AM »
Jitter, that is beautiful.

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Re: Prompt of the week!
« Reply #1049 on: November 27, 2022, 12:44:05 PM »
I have often wondered how Onni has been coping inside the compound. He must have had some way to commune with forest. The northern* part of the main island is forested nowadays, so it would have decent tree cover in 90 years but the area is only a few hundred meters across so that part alone is not that deep forest-y. BTW I decided that the two houses that are together in the northeastern “lobe” and away from everything else are some sort of mage quarters because they DO belong to the forest.

* the Keuruu map on p70 of A1 is lopsided, north is to the right on that picture

We need a prompt for this week, suggestions?
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