Post by: Keep Looking on November 13, 2022, 11:59:49 PM
:sparkle: :sparkle: Forum Secret Santa 2022 :sparkle: :sparkle:
:sparkle: Signups open now :sparkle:
Hi folks! It's coming round to the end of the year again, so that means it's time for the forum secret santa, a time-honoured anonymous gift exchange and guessing game! Previous examples can be found here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=1272.0) and here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=1107.0).
:sparkle: How do I join? :sparkle:
In order to join in on the festivities, you must make a post in this thread. In order to give your gifter a better idea of what you like, you could talk about some of your fan-related interests - what fandoms you're interested in, what pairings you enjoy, how much fluff or angst you like, or if you have a strong preference for fanart over fanfic. You can also mention any other interests or hobbies you might enjoy, like gardening or knitting or knowing way too much about different types of birds. Maybe your gifter has something in common!
Importantly, if there's anything you really don't want to recieve as a gift (content you don't like, any pairings that squick you out) please include that too if necessary, so your gifter can make sure you recieve a gift you love.
Signups close at midnight forum time on November 30th. I'll send out PMs the next day or two to let you know who your giftee is!
Make your gift! It can be anything - fanart, fanfic, poetry, a recipe, an choose-your-own adventure story - so long as it's something that you've made yourself. Remember to keep it a secret!
PM me your gift by midnight forum time on December 20th. On December 24 I'll send out all the gifts! Feel free to guess and speculate on who made what gift in the thread here, and if people still haven't guessed everything by December 31 I'll release the list of who made what gift!
:sparkle: Important Information :sparkle:
Please only sign up if you know you have time to make your gift! There's no trouble at all if things are too crazy this time of year and you don't have time.
If life stuff happens and you find yourself unable to make your gift in time, PM me as soon as you can so I can re-assign your gifter and giftee.
Also: Have fun! Be creative! Enjoy yourself! Best of luck to everyone!
Post by: Róisín on November 14, 2022, 04:22:23 AM
I can do poetry, storytelling, filk, recipes, factual articles (at present in the mundane world I am writing ‘Plant of the Week’ articles for a local environmental newsletter).. I am utterly lacking in the skills of art, so sadly can’t make pictures (though I love to receive art). There are examples of my work in previous Secret Santas, and on Archive of Our Own, where I am Tanist.
Let’s all have seasonal fun!
Post by: wavewright62 on November 14, 2022, 03:47:34 PM
Edit: Open to art or stories or edits - my familiar references outside of the Minnaverse include:
:V webcomics Girl Genius, Namesake, Alice and the Nightmare, Tigress Queen, Between Failures
:V books/series such as Queen's Thief, LotR, Old Kingdom Chronicles, His Dark Materials, Pern, the Lewis Carroll Alice books, Discworld, cookbooks, Ogden Nash's poetry
:V TV shows such as Star Trek, Miraculous Ladybug, The Owl House, Derry Girls, Peanuts specials
:V Original art! Love nature, cats, figurative work, urban scenery, gestural abstraction, ink drawings & prints, cartooning....
:mikkel: Goncharov
I have a very short list of DNW: horror, anime references, romance (ships are fine & all, but not as primary focus)
Post by: dmeck7755 on November 15, 2022, 12:34:40 PM
Interests food, cooking, recipes, (I read cookbooks like novels ha ha), cats (I have a furry horde) Reading. Because I joined the forum so late, I really enjoy people's art and writing.
I follow on discord (SSSS, Immaterial , which has absolutely lovely art. Suihira, Phantomarine thanks goes to linebyline for those..)
I like most things, mostly happy endings. I do not do horror or gore. (gives me nightmares)
Post by: Jitter on November 15, 2022, 06:00:17 PM
I can gift a story, or some poetry. I could also do some light research / description of things Nordic, but then it would probably be overly obvious it’s me :) Unfortunately I can’t art.
I would love a sweet, happy and/or fun work, story or art, with fluff and maybe (not mandatory) some romance. I appreciate very different stories too, but for this challenge I’d like something happy :)
I would like to in particular ask @lwise to consider joining in addition to the usual suspects :) Your tales are delightful but you seldom participate in the events. Also @Mirasol, I’m hailing so that you don’t miss the announcement!
Post by: thegreyarea on November 16, 2022, 09:11:51 AM
I can do a story, or some art (you already know that, since I'm one of the "usual suspects" @Jitter mentioned... ;) ), and I would also love to have more people joining this, like @Vulpes , @JoB and @Nellie McEnt
I like... So many things! It would be a long list, including almost everything that's Science Fiction or Fantasy, particularly when it features interesting characters (but them who doesn't?).
Anyway my top 5 list would include:
Ian M. Banks' Culture (oh, big surprise!)
Star Trek (didn't follow DS9 or Picard, though)
Tolkien's works (Lord of The Rings, etc...)
Neil Gaiman's works (anything he created, the guy is brilliant)
George R.R. Martin's works (as long as the last season of GoT isn't mentioned)
H.P. Lovecraft's stories (ah, the atmosphere...)
Frank Herbert's Dune books (Such worldbuilding)
Stand Still Stay Silent (heard about it? The story is already finished, but the best of it continues at the SSSS Forum!)
David Brin
Terry Pratchett
Arthur C. Clarke
Robert A. Heinlein
...
What, it's more than 5? Oops...
Post by: JoB on November 16, 2022, 10:58:36 AM
I could also do some light research / description of things Nordic, but then it would probably be overly obvious it’s me :)... you could report on "the land where relentless heat scorches the sands (https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221102-how-a-sand-battery-could-transform-clean-energy)" instead ... ?
and I would also love to have more people joining this, like @Vulpes , @JoB and @Nellie McEntOoooff ... believe it or not, I'd very likely find it still easier to write a short story (and you know how long that's been by now) than jotting down any hints for my gifter. Ever heard of the guy where even his close relatives have no idea whatsoever what to buy him for Christmas or his birthday? Yup, that's me ...
Post by: Mirasol on November 16, 2022, 02:13:34 PM
I´d like to participate, but only if it´s okay to do something a little bit smaller. I´m a bit swamped in homework right now. :')
I can do art and stories, as usual. I could also bake cookies, but they have the tendency not to send virtually. :squirrelcookie: Also you´d probably all know it´s me.
As for things I´m interested in, I think Yoinktober illustrated once again quite well in which corner of the fandom-ocean I´m currently stranded in, plus all the usual things I´m obsessed with. :'D
Which would be: The Magnus Archives and the Mechanisms, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 (which I don´t know the ending of yet though, so, well), Splatoon, always the Legend of Zelda, How to train your Dragon, the Jurassic Park movies (dinosaur-animatronics!!!), Arcane, and SSSS of course and... I should probably stop now.
Don´t feel limited by this... already not very limited list. I´ll probably enjoy most things fantasy, sci-fi or horror.
Regular interests would be growing potted plants, cats, dragons, art and animation (but you probably guessed the last ones :P)
I don´t have any preference regarding what it´ll be about.
If you want to include ships (I don´t mind either way), anything that´s canon or a widely accepted headcanon is usually a safe bet with me, but don´t let that stop you.
The only request I really have is for it to be safe for work. But since this is hosted here that was probably a given anyways. :)
Post by: lwise on November 16, 2022, 03:01:37 PM
Post by: Jitter on November 16, 2022, 04:13:30 PM
This is also not meant to press you into participating into that one either, more like explaining the “mistake” I made here.
Post by: Vulpes on November 16, 2022, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: thegreyarea on November 17, 2022, 05:54:15 AM
...My dear @Mirasol , did you say growing potted... dragons? :)
Regular interests would be growing potted plants, cats, dragons, art and animation (but you probably guessed the last ones :P)
...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dLDq5WPm/potted-dragon.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLDq5WPm)
(you may click to enlarge, but it's just a doodle)
Post by: Jitter on November 17, 2022, 04:27:04 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rKleQt2FuJScfKOw5CFFAwZpi42TdN5n85DfwjfQOq8=w249-h239-no)
Post by: Mirasol on November 19, 2022, 07:10:10 AM
My dear @Mirasol , did you say growing potted... dragons? :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dLDq5WPm/potted-dragon.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLDq5WPm)
(you may click to enlarge, but it's just a doodle)
Oh my god I love that potted dragon!!! XoX XoX XoX
Now do I grow such mystical creatures? That depends... Do Snapdragons count? O_o
(Haha of course I grow neither potted dragons nor cats. :'D I just don´t properly reread my sentences. Although....)
Spoiler: potted... cat? • show
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on November 20, 2022, 06:46:12 PM
So, I can do a story that everyone'll guess I wrote.
Likes: SSSStuff.
Dislikes: NSFW.
Post by: Keep Looking on November 29, 2022, 07:30:21 AM
And thank you to the people who've already signed up! It's you who make this possible, of course.
Post by: Keep Looking on December 01, 2022, 07:55:22 AM
Post by: wavewright62 on December 20, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
I forget how this runs - can we post the work on AO3 or other social media before the 31st, if the recipient has guessed correctly?
Post by: Keep Looking on December 21, 2022, 03:10:04 AM
*flops after finally getting my work done*
I forget how this runs - can we post the work on AO3 or other social media before the 31st, if the recipient has guessed correctly?
Yes, I think that should be alright!
Post by: Keep Looking on December 24, 2022, 09:40:37 AM
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 24, 2022, 09:59:26 AM
Post by: Jitter on December 24, 2022, 10:39:59 AM
GIFT FOR JITTER: A MIDWINTER DELIGHT
Mikkel to Sigrun: A Proposal
Dear Captain, come, share my Midwinter dream.
Here where we stand on your Norwegian Hills
Amid the snow and silence. Listen well
While I recount the thoughts that I would share.
We have lived through adventure, dangers, days
When there seemed little hope we might survive
Or ever come to safety with our lives.
Yet you stood by me, steady, brave and true.
I felt your fear, and yet no outward sign
Showed as you held that constant forward face
That led us out of danger and despair,
And into hope and life. Courage and and grace
You bring to all you do. Here, by your side,
As anchor, comfort, partner: let me bide!
My guess as to the maker of this is
Spoiler: show
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 24, 2022, 10:57:08 AM
It's the middle of the night when you hear a soft tap, tap, tapping on your window. Peering outside, you see a flash of something silvery, streaking away towards your front door. Fumbling your way out of bed, you make your way through the house and crack open the front door, letting in a whoosh of outside air that smells like Christmastime, whatever that smells like for you. On your doorstep is a package. You pick it up, curious as to what is inside.
Spoiler: Selections from the narrative of a traveler in time as recounted to his friends • show
I wish to thank the person who wrote this for me. I truly enjoyed it.
My guess is:
Spoiler: show
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 24, 2022, 11:03:16 AM
I received this lovely poem!
GIFT FOR JITTER: A MIDWINTER DELIGHT
Mikkel to Sigrun: A Proposal
Dear Captain, come, share my Midwinter dream.
Here where we stand on your Norwegian Hills
Amid the snow and silence. Listen well
While I recount the thoughts that I would share.
We have lived through adventure, dangers, days
When there seemed little hope we might survive
Or ever come to safety with our lives.
Yet you stood by me, steady, brave and true.
I felt your fear, and yet no outward sign
Showed as you held that constant forward face
That led us out of danger and despair,
And into hope and life. Courage and and grace
You bring to all you do. Here, by your side,
As anchor, comfort, partner: let me bide!
My guess as to the maker of this isSpoiler: show
Beautiful poem. I have not read any prose from the person you guessed, so I will just enjoy it and remain silent
Post by: thegreyarea on December 24, 2022, 11:31:06 AM
Spoiler: Open the Door • show
Thank you so much, mysterious author, for this marvelous gift! I really enjoyed both the story and the drawing, and there's a smile fixed on my face! :)
And my guess about the author is:
Spoiler: show
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on December 24, 2022, 01:11:35 PM
Here's the gift I got:
Spoiler: Open the Package • show
/me is happy
...Oh, wait. I was supposed to drop a guess as to the gifter. Hmmmmmmm.
/me is thinking
/me has no clue... yet
Post by: Jitter on December 24, 2022, 04:14:14 PM
Post by: Mirasol on December 24, 2022, 05:45:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ahuSBeb.gif?1)
Here it is: :sparkle: :sparkle: :sparkle:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sfYRDhxj/SSSS-ARCANE.png)
Thank you thank you thank you, dear gifter!!!
Look at the Notoros! And the little Sleipnope! And the Kade, dead bird inclusive! And the crew! Aaah, I´m noticing more details everytime I look! And all of it in Jinx´s grafitti-style!
But who made this...? I´m really not sure...
Spoiler: show
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 24, 2022, 06:08:02 PM
That is amazing artwork. Unfortunately it is not me. It is amazing and beautiful.
Post by: wavewright62 on December 24, 2022, 06:30:45 PM
Spoiler: show
What if the Owl House was set in the World of SSSS...
... and the characters lived in Y105 Saimaa instead of the Boiling Isles?
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMH3D1C1/Secret-Santa22for-Wavewright.png)
Spoiler: Characters • show
The Saimaa defense council has put their plan to station more Sentinel Mages around Saimaa (http://sssscomic.com/comic2.php?page=178) to practice in Y92, having the inhabited area safeguarded by a total of twelve powerful mages, with the original four to oversee two of the new ones each.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxVkY7HR/Y100-Saimaa-Map.png)
settlements / Sentinel Stations / Eda & Lilith´s stations
:sparkle: :sparkle: Happy Holidays, Wave! :sparkle: :sparkle:
Post by: wavewright62 on December 24, 2022, 06:44:36 PM
Spoiler: show
Mirasol, I'm guessing your drawing was by
Spoiler: show
I'm a little less certain about LooNEY's gift, but I think it may be from
Spoiler: show
grey guessed correctly, 'tis moi, but yeah, the drawing style gave it away
Post by: Róisín on December 24, 2022, 10:11:02 PM
Post by: Jitter on December 25, 2022, 06:17:05 AM
Post by: Mirasol on December 26, 2022, 09:13:44 AM
Mirasol, I'm guessing your drawing was bySpoiler: show
Spoiler: show
And yeah, you´re right, I made yours.
A little crossover I´ve been toying with for a while, but didn´t think the two fandoms overlapped enough that anyone would care about it haha. So I jumped at the chance. ^^' I hope you like it!
I´ve finally had the time to look at some of the other gifts. They´re all amazing!
I agree with Wave´s guess as to who made Looney´s story. I´ve yet to read dmeck´s gift, so I can´t guess that one yet. The others have all been guessed correctly already, I believe.
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 26, 2022, 09:22:28 AM
Spoiler: show
Post by: thegreyarea on December 26, 2022, 11:46:27 AM
Spoiler: show
As for Mirasol's...
Spoiler: show
Post by: Jitter on December 26, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
Great work everyone! And thank you Keep for running this!
(https://imgur.com/ZVlPSyU.png)
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on December 26, 2022, 07:48:15 PM
I had not read any of LooNEY's non-Filk stories, so I went and read a bunch. The writing style could be a match for my story. So I agree that LooNEY wrote my story and Grey did Mirasol's art. Both are very excellent.
So, about the story...
Spoiler: show
I'm glad you like it.
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 26, 2022, 09:16:16 PM
I liked it very much. I thank you very much for it. I think everyone else enjoyed it also.
Plus. Thank you for the translations. You story was written well, so I was able to gain inference from. The other content.
The translations are like icing
Than you
Post by: thegreyarea on December 27, 2022, 05:53:28 AM
And Welsh... I know nothing of it, so I could swear you had just hit a bunch of random keys to make that unintelligible garble. Now I have another fine option, besides Finnish, for an "alien" language. :)
(no offense to Welsh speakers. It's their language, and I respect it. It's just so strange on my ears/eyes...)
Many thanks to Keep, that ran this, and everybody else that made it amazing, and Wave, that made my wonderful gift!
Post by: Jitter on December 27, 2022, 06:00:56 AM
I recognized it as Welsh :) It looks more exotic in writing than it sounds.
Post by: Keep Looking on December 27, 2022, 06:23:05 AM
Róisín has asked me to post her gift here because she was struggling to get it to load (the gift or possibly the site), and also says that her guess at a gifter is Jitter.
Spoiler: Open the Door • show
Post by: Jitter on December 27, 2022, 09:59:52 AM
The red mushrooms and deer is very well done, o writer of this!
Post by: dmeck7755 on December 27, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Please try this one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km2PJ9JWwmk) />
I feel bad the gift was not 100%
Post by: thegreyarea on December 27, 2022, 10:45:09 AM
Yeah it was me.That's one beautiful work, dmeck! Please don't feel bad. Small issues happen, it's part of the game :)
...
I feel bad the gift was not 100%
And I also knew it's yours from your writing style ;)
Post by: Róisín on December 28, 2022, 01:48:49 AM
Post by: Keep Looking on January 01, 2023, 11:43:38 PM
Róisín --> Jitter
wavewright62 --> thegreyarea
dmeck7755 --> Róisín
Jitter --> LooNEY_DAC
thegreyarea --> Mirasol
Mirasol --> wavewright62
LooNEY_DAC --> dmeck7755
Happy new year, folks! Hopefully this'll be a good one.
Post by: Róisín on January 01, 2023, 11:50:19 PM
Post by: wavewright62 on January 02, 2023, 04:49:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/StKwal5.png)
Post by: dmeck7755 on January 03, 2023, 02:52:29 PM
Post by: Keep Looking on January 05, 2023, 09:36:21 AM
It, ah, looks like I've had a Secret Santa knocking on my own door tonight!
Spoiler: Open the Door • show
Thank you so much for organising this, Grey, and to everyone else as well - I totally didn't expect this and it has made my evening! Seriously I was smiling so hard when I opened this. I love the poster - all the art and songs and funny puns and details. And reading through all the filks and Looney's poem (which I thoroughly enjoyed. I promise my spleen is not inflamed) and the fic and art in the pdf as well... just wow! I'm gonna have to spend some more time looking through some of the different songs and links that were sent through.
You guys really made me smile tonight. Thank you all so much!
Post by: thegreyarea on January 05, 2023, 02:21:38 PM
As requested here's the link (postimages.org) where one can see the full-sized version:
Spoiler: show
Post by: wavewright62 on January 06, 2023, 02:35:33 AM
Oh man, what a h :onni: :onni:t some of y'all are.
But, could I please see the finished filks and poem(s)? What's this about an inflamed spleen?
Post by: thegreyarea on January 06, 2023, 04:37:58 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyXLyNKr/the-band.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K3GFpCCP)
Well, I know nothing about Keep's spleen (or any other organs) ;) But I'm glad to know they are all ok. ^-^
I also (presume) to know that Keep, and all the others that contributed, won't mind me sharing here the rest of her gift... So here it goes:
Songs names: inspirations, suggestions and links
lwise:
Spoiler: show
Wave:
Spoiler: show
Jitter:
Spoiler: show
Mirasol:
Spoiler: show
dmeck:
Spoiler: show
JoB:
Spoiler: show
Grey:
Spoiler: show
Filk Songs
Hello FoOd
Spoiler: show
We Are The Champions
Spoiler: show
Well, Obviously
Spoiler: show
Critics
Mirasol:
Spoiler: show
JoB:
Spoiler: show
mOooOoRE!
Spoiler: show
<3
uff, I think that's all... :)
Post by: Buteo on January 06, 2023, 01:48:07 PM
Thanks so much, Grey!
Post by: JoB on January 08, 2023, 02:49:04 PM
This Secret Santa exchange is the gift that keeps on giving!Indeed ... how did we manage to miss this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KFiGWLogVM)??
(I wish I had remembered their official video for Freak of the Week (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vzBdIejVY) in time for the encore. Yes, these guys are Swedes.)
Post by: thegreyarea on January 08, 2023, 07:32:41 PM
This Secret Santa exchange is the gift that keeps on giving!I'm glad that you liked it, Buteo! We did have amazing contributions this year. It has become a lovely tradition. :)
Thanks so much, Grey!
Indeed ... how did we manage to miss this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KFiGWLogVM)??(Another) great find, JoB! I really appreciated those videos! And now I'm imaginig Emil with longer hair... :)
(I wish I had remembered their official video for Freak of the Week (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vzBdIejVY) in time for the encore. Yes, these guys are Swedes.)
Spoiler: show
Post by: dreki on January 09, 2023, 05:53:34 PM
(Another) great find, JoB! I really appreciated those videos! And now I'm imaginig Emil with longer hair... :)Spoiler: show
I have a thing for viking hair, which there is too little of in SSSS despite being Scandinavian (there is a bit!)
So I like the idea of Emil growing his hair out and braiding it Viking style.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/23/43/1b2343aba09db8eda2d289b3b385a5df.jpg)
Post by: thegreyarea on January 09, 2023, 06:39:29 PM
I have a thing for viking hair, which there is too little of in SSSS despite being Scandinavian (there is a bit!)Wow, dreki! That's one amazing hair! So intricate! I'm sure Emil would look fantastic with it, together with all the sparkling! :sparkle: :emil: :sparkle:
So I like the idea of Emil growing his hair out and braiding it Viking style.
Don't know if Lalli would be fascinated or call it stupid ('cause there's a lot of work and care involved). Perhaps both :)
Post by: Jitter on January 10, 2023, 01:11:35 AM
And I strongly agree, there’s nowhere near enough Viking hair in canon!
Post by: dreki on January 10, 2023, 01:49:04 AM
Wow, dreki! That's one amazing hair! So intricate! I'm sure Emil would look fantastic with it, together with all the sparkling! :sparkle: :emil: :sparkle:
Don't know if Lalli would be fascinated or call it stupid ('cause there's a lot of work and care involved). Perhaps both :)
Definitely both.
Post by: Róisín on January 10, 2023, 02:44:28 AM
At times when I have taught blacksmithing I have encouraged people to braid up their hair, because a forge, like any workshop, is a very dangerous place to have loose bits of anything, be it hair or clothing, floating about in the path of tools or fire.
And yes, Emil would look extra gorgeous with braids. It can really change a man’s look. I remember one young man I knew, must be forty years ago, who had the most beautiful copper-red hair. When I first met him he was doing Mediæval style reenactment fighting, and given that he played a Viking the long braided hair and beard just suited the role, as well as showing off his features in a most flattering way. Some ten years after that he cut his hair to shoulder length and shaved his beard, (his wife preferred him so), and he turned out to be one of those rare men who looks good with both styles- beardless, he looked like a Renaissance angel.
dangerous
Post by: dreki on January 10, 2023, 03:29:08 AM
And I would certainly have wished to avoid what happened to a friend who was using a lathe with their long hair loose, and had one side of their scalp snatched bald when the hair got caught in the lathe.
This is actually something that bugs the hell out of me in SSSS. Reynir really ought to have his hair pulled up somehow most of the time. He works on a bloody farm, you can't safely have a braid that long just dangling around. I recently found the comic Year in Hereafter who has a character with a really similar design, works as a blacksmith. He's constantly being told off for letting his long braid just hang loose, and at one point it catches fire. Because that's what happens when you've got a 3 foot long ribbon of flammable material flapping around in a forge!
I like long hair and braids. I just also like practicality and safety.
Post by: Jitter on January 10, 2023, 07:31:09 AM
And yeah, the character design is based on rule of cool. I mean how does Emil keep his hair shiny in the field? How does Lalli get on The Boots? (On the latter, I think we decided somewhere that he has a spell for making any boots fit and be comfortable)
Post by: angsttronaut on January 10, 2023, 10:32:26 AM
Post by: thegreyarea on January 10, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
Having struggled many times to draw Reynir's braid (that is long, but not a complicated one) I would guess that Minna just decided to skip the viking braids and save herself from (even) more work. ;)
As for Reynir's braid survivability, my own canon* is that his braid has magic and is "alive", so it moves on its own to keep away from danger and from Reynir's legs so he doesn't keep tripping over it... :)
* anyone remembers my "Home (https://postimg.cc/t7J8yfvd)" picture?
Post by: Jitter on January 10, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
But it’s my understanding that the Vikings didn’t braid, undo and wash daily or weekly, although they kept good hygiene in comparison to the common practices of the time. So even the finest braiding would look quite scruffy after a while.
Post by: dreki on January 10, 2023, 01:21:24 PM
I think braids are beautiful and fascinating. However to someone without practical experience it seems that making something like that picture of viking style hair would take a lot of work... But I may be wrong. I would also think (again, no experience) that properly cleaning/washing the hair would imply undoing and then redoing all that work...
Having struggled many times to draw Reynir's braid (that is long, but not a complicated one) I would guess that Minna just decided to skip the viking braids and save herself from (even) more work. ;)
As for Reynir's braid survivability, my own canon* is that his braid has magic and is "alive", so it moves on its own to keep away from danger and from Reynir's legs so he doesn't keep tripping over it... :)
* anyone remembers my "Home (https://postimg.cc/t7J8yfvd)" picture?
Corn rows don't need to be undone for a few weeks, I believe up to two months. You can shower with them and they aren't dirty. It's one of the reasons they're used. Small, tight braids actually require less upkeep and can be kept in for days/weeks.
Post by: dmeck7755 on January 10, 2023, 01:26:02 PM
I think braids are beautiful and fascinating. However to someone without practical experience it seems that making something like that picture of viking style hair would take a lot of work... But I may be wrong. I would also think (again, no experience) that properly cleaning/washing the hair would imply undoing and then redoing all that work...
Having struggled many times to draw Reynir's braid (that is long, but not a complicated one) I would guess that Minna just decided to skip the viking braids and save herself from (even) more work. ;)
As for Reynir's braid survivability, my own canon* is that his braid has magic and is "alive", so it moves on its own to keep away from danger and from Reynir's legs so he doesn't keep tripping over it... :)
* anyone remembers my "Home (https://postimg.cc/t7J8yfvd)" picture?
I have never seen that drawing. I love it. I love all the pictures and titles the titles on the bookshelf and around. So much to look at (butter good songs haha)
Post by: Jitter on January 10, 2023, 02:49:06 PM
Post by: thegreyarea on January 10, 2023, 03:59:27 PM
Oh those book titles! So many friends, now gone 😭Not gone, my dear. Just temporarily hidden from our view :) <3
(I'm a half-full glass person, remember?)
(It can even apply to Rachel if you have faith...)
Post by: dreki on January 10, 2023, 04:04:05 PM
Not gone, my dear. Just temporarily hidden from our view :) <3
(I'm a half-full glass person, remember?)
(It can even apply to Rachel if you have faith...)
So when you need her touch
And loving gaze
Gone but not forgotten
Is the perfect phrase
Smiling from a star
That she makes glow
Trust she's always there
Watching as you grow
Find her in the place
Where the lost things go
Post by: JoB on January 10, 2023, 04:35:43 PM
Reynir really ought to have his hair pulled up somehow most of the time. He works on a bloody farm, you can't safely have a braid that long just dangling around.Can't say that I've ever had braids of any length, but as long as you keep the braid-eating threat in front of you, I'd guess that you can always stick a Reynir-length braid through your belt behind your back on short notice to have it temporarily mostly restrained ...
Post by: Jitter on January 10, 2023, 05:06:58 PM
So when you need her touch
And loving gaze
Gone but not forgotten
Is the perfect phrase
Smiling from a star
That she makes glow
Trust she's always there
Watching as you grow
Find her in the place
Where the lost things go
Thank you dreki, so beautiful.
I’m not crying you’re crying!
Post by: thegreyarea on January 10, 2023, 05:37:04 PM
Thank you, dreki. <3
Post by: dreki on January 10, 2023, 05:44:19 PM
There's a longer version earlier on, which I think the quote is from, but I find the kids singing it way more moving. (for context they're singing about their dead mother)
Can't say that I've ever had braids of any length, but as long as you keep the braid-eating threat in front of you, I'd guess that you can always stick a Reynir-length braid through your belt behind your back on short notice to have it temporarily mostly restrained ...
That's wasted time. First you have to get a hold of it (when it tends to whip around), be wearing clothes that reliably do that, and it's seconds you could be spending doing anything else.
And if anything approaches from behind you're screwed.
It's a helluva lot safer to just not have a giant dangling thing sticking out the back of your head.
Post by: Róisín on January 10, 2023, 08:02:47 PM
And in my experience the safest way to wear very long hair is to braid it and then pin the braid up around your head. I have kept mine long for most of my life, mostly because I am not especially beautiful of face, but my hair is quite nice, and sometimes I enjoy dressing up and looking like a woman, even though most of my life is occupied with tasks for which long loose hair would be a detriment. My grandmother used to call that style ‘the pioneer woman’s braid’, and she liked it because one can braid and tie it, if necessary, in the dark without a mirror, and it is a way to keep your hair free of burrs, splinters, dirt and dust. And to keep your hair out of the food if you do a lot of food preparation, which I do. Hair in braids generally stays far cleaner than loose hair. You can just wash your whole head, braids and all, though it is nice to open the braids and wash it thoroughly. And as for cleaning long hair in a freezing winter: one of my aunts, who had long, very fine hair that came to her knees when she loosed it used to make orris root powder and if she wanted to clean her hair when it was cold and snowy she used to rub the powder through her hair, let it sit for half an hour, then brush it out. This process left it clean and smelling delicious.
Nowadays my plaits come to a little below my shoulders. My hair grows slowly, and although I have been growing it all my life I have twice lost it to chemotherapy and twice had it shaved or severely cut back for surgery on head injuries. My avatar picture is a good cartoon of what I actually look like, though Haiz made it a bit prettier than I am, and people seeing it have certainly recognised me from it.
Post by: dreki on January 11, 2023, 01:38:35 AM
it is a way to keep your hair free of burrs, splinters, dirt and dust.
This right here. Realistically, Reynir's dangling braid would have been catching on branches and collecting allll manner of forest nonsense in Saimaa. With no showers for weeks.
The other comic I mentioned, with the black smith - he at least lived in a small city and a stone house so the most it was likely to catch on was when his friend intentionally yanked it (which happened). Farms and forests? It'd be secured to his head.
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And as for cleaning long hair in a freezing winter: one of my aunts, who had long, very fine hair that came to her knees when she loosed it used to make orris root powder and if she wanted to clean her hair when it was cold and snowy she used to rub the powder through her hair, let it sit for half an hour, then brush it out. This process left it clean and smelling delicious.
The powder is basically dry shampoo - which you can get cans that are basically starch with, i believe, aerosol but more people are remembering to just put various powders on like this.
Mmm gosh the discussion of hair cleanliness, I only just remembered how many people wash their hair fairly often. So to them this might seem particularly baffling. I stopped using shampoo in 2014 and my partner never has, conditioner only. We also have curly hair so it takes a lot of special attention.
Brushing alone moves a lot of the oils through the hair and keeps the scalp fairly clean. And hair that long, you *need* those oils to get as far through it as possible. It'd get pretty dry and brittle if it was wet too often.
Reynir doesn't necessarily ever need to shampoo/soap his hair, and wetting it doesn't necessarily need to happen more than once a week or so. Less if he's got access to a starch powder (like the orris root mentioned). When he has the luxury, so not in the silent world, he may need to work oil into the tips at minimum.
How often it needs to be brushed depends on how oily his scalp is, and if you aren't overwashing that tends to settle down.
And Emil - he has short, straight hair so that tends to be lower care needs. Yes it's not unlikely that with a comb/brush and the rare times they wash his hair would stay lovely looking.
My 5yo has hair a lot like Emil and honestly we wrestle her into a bath less than once a month. Her hair is gorgeous as long as she lets me brush it. And honestly is somewhat similar to Emil's but with curls (most of it looks straight as it's chin length, but the hair framing her face curls) I know kids have better hair than adults but still - those genetically lucky people have hair that can be quite low maintenance and still look good.
Lucky bastards.
(For more info you can look up the "no shampoo" movement. It's not for everyone, but it also includes a lot of natural hair care that may be similar to what SSSS-verse uses so is interesting.
Also, Tuuri is the smartest of all for just shaving the damn stuff off!)
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Nowadays my plaits come to a little below my shoulders. My hair grows slowly, and although I have been growing it all my life I have twice lost it to chemotherapy and twice had it shaved or severely cut back for surgery on head injuries. My avatar picture is a good cartoon of what I actually look like, though Haiz made it a bit prettier than I am, and people seeing it have certainly recognised me from it.You sound like you've been through a lot. And I suspect are a bit harsh on your looks, too, especially if people can recognize you from the art.
Post by: Róisín on January 11, 2023, 04:10:35 AM
Post by: Keep Looking on January 11, 2023, 08:00:26 AM
I would certainly have wished to avoid what happened to a friend who was using a lathe with their long hair loose, and had one side of their scalp snatched bald when the hair got caught in the lathe.
At times when I have taught blacksmithing I have encouraged people to braid up their hair, because a forge, like any workshop, is a very dangerous place to have loose bits of anything, be it hair or clothing, floating about in the path of tools or fire.
I remember when I had woodworking and metalworking classes in high school on the very first class we'd all get taken around the workshop and told all the different stories of various gruesome injuries that either had or could occur if you did not obey the safety precautions. This certainly included the consequences of getting your hair caught in the lathe! Also the rather unfortunate tale of some kid a few years above us who crushed his fingertips off in the magnabender.
I've got wavy dark brown hair I pretty much always keep at just below shoulder length (I like it long enough to look pretty sometimes but any longer and it starts to get annoying for me). My mum used to braid my hair for school every day and I have on occasion given myself two plaits when doing physical activities as it is a very practical hairstyle and better for your hair than a ponytail (although currently I am lazy and mostly just tie a ponytail anyway). I like to plait my girlfriend's hair and occasionally do more complex braids on her although I cannot say I am amazingly good at it as I lack experience.
I occasionally watch videos about historical fashion by people who are passionate about researching this area and braided hair that is pinned up seems to be the most common way of wearing long hair when you need to do work throughout a lot of history! For all the reasons you folks have stated before.
Post by: dreki on January 11, 2023, 11:16:15 AM
I remember when I had woodworking and metalworking classes in high school on the very first class we'd all get taken around the workshop and told all the different stories of various gruesome injuries that either had or could occur if you did not obey the safety precautions. This certainly included the consequences of getting your hair caught in the lathe! Also the rather unfortunate tale of some kid a few years above us who crushed his fingertips off in the magnabender.
Those talks worked a bit too well for me and I was slightly traumatized away from wanting to use them. Still get a bit nervous around power saws and the like.
The hilarious thing to me was, later on, the difference in how the university art department approached safety. Which is.... "incredibly lax".
Razor blades just lying around. A ladder leaned up against a door that said 'nothing can be left within three feet of this door'(or something)
So many OSHA violations. (OSHA is the american Occupational Safety and Health Administration)
Post by: Róisín on January 13, 2023, 04:48:35 AM