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Title: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 19, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
Hi, here are some ideas I had. Boards are by example "Forum and Website Discussion" or "SSSS Board"
If you all could help me improve them by your comments...

A- Make a "Presentations Board", with a topic by new member who wish to briefly present themselves.
I know this kind of thing exist in many forums and I found it lacking here.
(in my opinion... it isn't mandatory)
I see some have begun here http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=5.msg4706#msg4706
but it is best to have a specific zone to do it, as it might greatly increase in size with new members.

B- Make a "Other Languages Board" with a topic by language, for all the not-english readers who migth have something to say but cant speak enough of english for it, while they can read some of it.
(I don't think it is my case now, but it was few years ago)
I think it is best than to let other fans make other specifics fan-forums in other languages, as it would break the community.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 19, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
I really like this thread.  It might be a good place to discuss the placement of threads or something, in the future.

The presentations board sounds like a superb idea.  It would be a great place for people to get acquainted and be welcomed. 

The other languages board, I feel needs some discussing.  If anyone wants to weigh in on the topic, please do. 
Would it be a board with one thread for each language?  I can make a board with sub-boards inside of it, so that more regular threads can be made.  That would mean:

(With liberal use of google translate...)
- SSSS Board

- aRTD Board

- General Discussion Board

- Forum and Website Board

- Other Language Board
     > Française Board
          --> Par le vous SSSS?
          --> Catmobile thread
          --> Dernière la page
     >  Español Board
          --> Hablar Lalli
     > Norwegian Board
     > etc.   ...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 19, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
Hum I am french so I can help for the french part, sorry I forgot to tell it  :)

And YES to your arrangement of the boards, with "Presentation" first
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 19, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
I made a thread for the presentaion - it didn't exist already, did it? It's in the General Discussion Board.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 19, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
I made a thread for the presentaion - it didn't exist already, did it? It's in the General Discussion Board.
Nope, it's a new thing, now.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 19, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
I made a thread for the presentaion - it didn't exist already, did it? It's in the General Discussion Board.
Well ... we were speaking of a Board > only the mod can create, not a Topic, that anyone can create!

But I like your message
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On kind suggestion of someone whose name I always forget! Presentation board for the newbies to introduce themselves and thus take the first step in becoming veterans! Welcome to this wonderful community - and remember to respect you elders and your eldúr!*
*All references to SSSS, Emil, Icelandic, and certain Disqus comments are purely incidental.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 19, 2014, 02:26:20 PM
Well ... we were speaking of a Board > only the mod can create, not a Topic, that anyone can create!

But I like your message
Oh, I was just going to make an introductions thread in the General Discussion Board 
I thought the new board was just going to be for the language boards (which I still want some people to give some opinions on; making a new board is a big deal).
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 19, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
http://forum.cineastes.com/presentation-membres-f4/
http://www.andlil.com/forum/presentation-des-membres.html

2 sites chosen by google with a "Presentations Board"
it allow other members to ask question to a new member without too much chaos

if A speak, then B, then C ask A, then D speak, the A reply C,...
it can be a little hard to find anything

making a new board is a big deal ??? > why? it is quite easy on other forums
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 19, 2014, 02:48:57 PM
http://forum.cineastes.com/presentation-membres-f4/
http://www.andlil.com/forum/presentation-des-membres.html

2 sites chosen by google with a "Presentations Board"
it allow other members to ask question to a new member without too much chaos

if A speak, then B, then C ask A, then D speak, the A reply C,...
it can be a little hard to find anything

making a new board is a big deal ??? > why? it is quite easy on other forums
Actually, I like it as it is. Four boards are enough, not too many, not too few, one for each esigence. Introducing yourself is a short matter, to have a discussion there are the other threads - why have a new board that will just confuse everyone?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: noako on October 20, 2014, 05:20:09 AM
I also think four boards is enogh, but maybe this is something a poll could solve? What people would want?

I'm also not so sure about boards for other languages - what would be there to discuss? SSSS? Why not do that in english?
That would also require mods who know those languages... Just  in case, you know. (I am not against other mods, just... for every language..)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 20, 2014, 06:11:54 AM
I also think four boards is enogh, but maybe this is something a poll could solve? What people would want?

I'm also not so sure about boards for other languages - what would be there to discuss? SSSS? Why not do that in english?
That would also require mods who know those languages... Just  in case, you know. (I am not against other mods, just... for every language..)

I also think new language boards would be superfluous - say, we have two or three native French speakers, one or two Italians, one or two Spanish speakers, couple of Russians, then Finns, Danes and Norwegian for the most. Do we really need that many boards just for a few people? If they read SSSS, I'd say they have a good grasping of the English language!
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: noako on October 20, 2014, 06:54:52 AM
I also think new language boards would be superfluous - say, we have two or three native French speakers, one or two Italians, one or two Spanish speakers, couple of Russians, then Finns, Danes and Norwegian for the most. Do we really need that many boards just for a few people? If they read SSSS, I'd say they have a good grasping of the English language!


Yes, exatcly what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 20, 2014, 09:08:09 AM
I also think new language boards would be superfluous - say, we have two or three native French speakers, one or two Italians, one or two Spanish speakers, couple of Russians, then Finns, Danes and Norwegian for the most. Do we really need that many boards just for a few people? If they read SSSS, I'd say they have a good grasping of the English language!

You could probably lump Danish, Norwegian and Swedish together in one board though. Might be interesting for all those who have expressed a desire to learn these languages if they want to practice.

Perhaps some kind of threshold should be used - as in "if 10 or more people request a thread for this and that non-English language it can be made".
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 20, 2014, 09:21:00 AM
You could probably lump Danish, Norwegian and Swedish together in one board though. Might be interesting for all those who have expressed a desire to learn these languages if they want to practice.

Perhaps some kind of threshold should be used - as in "if 10 or more people request a thread for this and that non-English language it can be made".

Looks like a good idea to me! Both, I mean.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Solovei on October 20, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
I had an idea - the overall SSSS board seems to have two kinds of posts:

1. Creative stuff ABOUT the comic (art, music, poetry, etc)
2. Discussion about the world/characters etc

So, I was thinking, would it be OK if I made a thread (could also be stickied, maybe?) that would be kind of like an index of the  other threads? Like, it would just have links to useful threads organized by category...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 20, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Hello, I will try to answer to all your remarks and propositions. Sorry if it is looong, it has taken 3 hours to write!

I'm also not so sure about boards for other languages - what would be there to discuss? SSSS? Why not do that in english?
If they read SSSS, I'd say they have a good grasping of the English language!
Well, first I will present my excuses for the present level of my english :
I can read english to 95%, as I read many comics and novels, but writting it is truly hard, as I have less experience and need to think each world (50%).
I manage it, but it is hard to see this as pleasant. (and the more rapidly I try to write, the worse it is to read for others I fear!)

So I thought there might be other readers with the same problem, who can read the forum but are not feeling good writing inside.
As I think a forum you just read is not truly a true forum.

Four boards are enough, not too many, not too few, one for each esigence. why have a new board that will just confuse everyone?
Well, here is one with 19 boards, ok it is a little extreme as example, but possible.
http://forum.hardware.fr/
Nothing force you to read the parts you feel have no interest to you. it can still have use to others.

Introducing yourself is a short matter, to have a discussion there are the other threads
Ok, let us keep it as a single topic for the next months and if need arise it can always be expanded later.

That would also require mods who know those languages... Just  in case, you know. (I am not against other mods, just... for every language..)
I know you can be mod for only a part of the forum, I can help with the french part, and to begin with spanish.
Nordics languages won't be a problem as there is a large pool.
And for the really few used languages, there is google traduction. ;)

we have two or three native French speakers, one or two Italians, one or two Spanish speakers, couple of Russians, then Finns, Danes and Norwegian for the most. Do we

really need that many boards just for a few people?
The idea is only 1 board, for all languages.
Other readers who will want it may come tomorrow.
And you will not attract more if they can't find more contents they like.
(like chineses tourists go to Paris, so vendors learn to speak Mandarin, and it attract more chineses)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle

1 board with 20 or 30 topics will not bring that much problems.

You could probably lump Danish, Norwegian and Swedish together in one board though. Might be interesting for all those who have expressed a desire to learn these

languages if they want to practice.
I had not though of the "learning languages" part, and there are others who might bring new ideas.
We can wait 1 or 2 weeks to have more replies.

Perhaps some kind of threshold should be used - as in "if 10 or more people request a thread for this and that non-English language it can be made".
it is a good idea, but... where will those 10 spanish speakers request a new topic, unless inside a specific topic.
And it would be best to let all those "request topics" to be together... in a group... maybe a board?
And 10 is an hight level to reach: a lot of topics have less than 5 replies

If a member post a message in Swahili, we can always wait a few months and delete it if there is 0 reply.

As you can see here http://sssscomic.com/journal.php?entry=11
Minna has readers in many nationalities, and I think even only 1 post in their native language could allow some others to find this forum accidentally on google, then begin to read her comics.
As an example, I can write a small paragraph to speak of SSSS in french, using http://sssscomic.com/index.php?id=about
and with the goods keywords, some comics fans might find it from 29 countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_entities_where_French_is_an_official_language


I can make a board with sub-boards inside of it, so that more regular threads can be made.
- SSSS Board
- aRTD Board
- General Discussion Board
- Forum and Website Board
- Other Language Board

Other Languages (Board)
     > Norge (sub-board)
          --> NO - SSSS (Topic)
          --> NO - aRTD (Topic)
     > Español (sub-board)
          --> ES - Hablar SSSS (Topic)
          --> ES - Hablar aRTD (Topic)
     > Français (sub-board)
          --> FR - Parler de SSSS (Topic)
          --> FR - Parler de aRTD (Topic)
          --> FR - Au sujet de Lalli et son rôle (Topic)
     > Other (sub-board)


I had an idea - the overall SSSS board seems to have two kinds of posts:
1. Creative stuff ABOUT the comic (art, music, poetry, etc)
2. Discussion about the world/characters etc
As Eich can make a board with sub-boards inside of it, maybe just 2 sub-boards inside the SSSS board
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Solovei on October 20, 2014, 09:12:52 PM
As Eich can make a board with sub-boards inside of it, maybe just 2 sub-boards inside the SSSS board

I didn't necessarily mean having separate boards, just a sticky post with links to commonly-asked-about threads and such.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 20, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
OK, I understand, sorry
I just tought it would take you a lot of time and produce little more help than the search engine.
And you would need to update it evry month?
so I tried to propose a similar solution but more easy to make.

Maybe your post with "links to commonly-asked-about threads" could go to the future FAQ
http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=132.0
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: noako on October 21, 2014, 03:38:08 AM
I had an idea - the overall SSSS board seems to have two kinds of posts:

1. Creative stuff ABOUT the comic (art, music, poetry, etc)
2. Discussion about the world/characters etc

So, I was thinking, would it be OK if I made a thread (could also be stickied, maybe?) that would be kind of like an index of the  other threads? Like, it would just have links to useful threads organized by category...

That sounds good to me. Go ahead.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 21, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
This i mostly about the language board. I feel the need to specify that I think that one board for foreign languages is a very, very, very good idea. But please, read the following long-ish post to understand why it's also a very, very, very bad idea (according to me, that is).

Hello, I will try to answer to all your remarks and propositions. Sorry if it is looong, it has taken 3 hours to write!
Well, first I will present my excuses for the present level of my english :
I can read english to 95%, as I read many comics and novels, but writting it is truly hard, as I have less experience and need to think each world (50%).
I manage it, but it is hard to see this as pleasant. (and the more rapidly I try to write, the worse it is to read for others I fear!)

So I thought there might be other readers with the same problem, who can read the forum but are not feeling good writing inside.
 

About speaking English: do I look like a good speaker to you? Maybe. Had you seen my posts ten months ago, you would have seen a messy confusion of English vocabulary and some semblance of grammar. I had no problems, absolutely no problems in understanding the language, but when it came to speaking it I was a disaster. I struggled to find the right words, to put them in the right order, to make a decent plural form of nouns. Then I decided I'd speak English with natives. On Google Plus, on SSSS, on random webcomics, everywhere. By summer, English was more natural than Italian to me. Do I speak it very well? No. But I'm better at it than before - so instead of running away because you struggle with English, and finding some French speakers to have a chat with, I'd invite you to speak English as actively as you can. Sure, you're making mistakes, but you're wrong in thinking that we're "frustrated" - you're a part of the community, and communicating with you is a pleasure, not a frustration!




The idea is only 1 board, for all languages.
Other readers who will want it may come tomorrow.
And you will not attract more if they can't find more contents they like.
(like chineses tourists go to Paris, so vendors learn to speak Mandarin, and it attract more chineses)

Okay, THIS was what I meant by saying that who reads SSSS must already have a good knowledge of English. "They will not be attracted if they can't find contents they don't like"... SSSS is not a commercial center or something! It's a comic! No one needs to be attracted.Even if someone comes on the foum because of the foreign language boards - which is highly improbable - they couldn't read the comic if they didn't know English.

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1 board with 20 or 30 topics will not bring that much problems.
I had not though of the "learning languages" part, and there are others who might bring new ideas.



I actually support the languages board just for this reason. But it should be a way to learn languages and have fun, not run away from English! Still, I'd love to have a place where I can butcher the German and Norwegian language and get better at speaking (and thus worse at butchering). Who knows, maybe I'd finally even take a liking to French!

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it is a good idea, but... where will those 10 spanish speakers request a new topic, unless inside a specific topic.
And it would be best to let all those "request topics" to be together... in a group... maybe a board?
And 10 is an hight level to reach: a lot of topics have less than 5 replies



This is a thread for suggesting new threads! They may ask for a board in their language here.
And 10 is actually not a high level to reach: most topics have tens of replies here. I did say that having an entire thread for Spanish speakers was superfluous if there were only three of them, of course they won't reach 10!

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As you can see here http://sssscomic.com/journal.php?entry=11
Minna has readers in many nationalities, and I think even only 1 post in their native language could allow some others to find this forum accidentally on google, then begin to read her comics.
As an example, I can write a small paragraph to speak of SSSS in french, using http://sssscomic.com/index.php?id=about
and with the goods keywords, some comics fans might find it from 29 countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_entities_where_French_is_an_official_language



See my reply about attracting readers who can't read English.

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As Eich can make a board with sub-boards inside of it, maybe just 2 sub-boards inside the SSSS board


I prefer it this way because I can easily find the discussions without searching on various sub-sub-sub-boards and stuff, but it's just an opinion (just like everything else I said :))

Okay, so my main points about language boards: if they're created to run from troubles in English it's a horrible idea. First of all, it WILL divide the community. The discussions wouldn't be the same and we'd inevitably lose some valuable members. We're a multinational community and we come from all over the world - if everyone were to be divided by nationality then we could say goodbye to our wonderful community. BUT, if the board is to encourage communication, to let the other forumers (is that even a word?) know how beautiful a language is, and give them a place to learn a new language, a new culture, to create an even more multinational community, then it may be just about the greatest idea that an SSSS fan ever had :)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 21, 2014, 06:38:18 PM
Awesome post, Nimphy.  Two points, very well made.

Personally, I'm wary of the idea of separate language boards; division seems to be the more likely outcome, to me, partly because I've had a hard time with languages in the past...  and for anyone who either doesn't have the time or desire to learn a new language, it would effectively lock them out of a section of the forum.  However, I think it would be worth trying for, at the very least, a solid month, so we could see how much they take on.  That means we'll need temporary mods for each language, people will have to help me set up multilingual swear filters, etc. etc... but a lot of that could wait until after a trial run is completed.

Should I put up a poll to vote?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 21, 2014, 07:25:35 PM
Thank you Nimphy for reading my long post and making a long answer :)

I'd invite you to speak English as actively as you can. Sure, you're making mistakes, but you're wrong in thinking that we're "frustrated" - you're a part of the community, and communicating with you is a pleasure, not a frustration!
OK, I am ready to take this challenge.
Dividing the community is the last thing is want


"They will not be attracted if they can't find contents they don't like"... SSSS is not a commercial center or something! It's a comic! No one needs to be attracted.
Hum, I am pretty sure Minna would not mind if we managed to attract new readers :D

Even if someone comes on the foum because of the foreign language boards - which is highly improbable - they couldn't read the comic if they didn't know English.
Even if you can easily read english, you obviously make google shearches in the languages you are the most comfortable with. And only if you find nothing, you switch to english.
I often found webcomics thanks to 1 comment in french with the keywords I used.
"highly improbable" if you multiply by the vast number of google users can still make a lot.
Even if it doesn't work I think it is worth trying, to maybe attract new readers (I have more posts wainting in my head on this subject)


I actually support the languages board just for this reason. But it should be a way to learn languages and have fun, not run away from English! Still, I'd love to have a place where I can butcher the German and Norwegian language and get better at speaking (and thus worse at butchering). Who knows, maybe I'd finally even take a liking to French!
...
if the board is to encourage communication, to let the other forumers (is that even a word?) know how beautiful a language is, and give them a place to learn a new language, a new culture, to create an even more multinational community, then it may be just about the greatest idea that an SSSS fan ever had :)
Yeah it was like that I was seing it (alas even writting in french I am frequently misunderstood)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: noako on October 22, 2014, 12:46:24 AM
Awesome post, Nimphy.  Two points, very well made.

Personally, I'm wary of the idea of separate language boards; division seems to be the more likely outcome, to me, partly because I've had a hard time with languages in the past...  and for anyone who either doesn't have the time or desire to learn a new language, it would effectively lock them out of a section of the forum.  However, I think it would be worth trying for, at the very least, a solid month, so we could see how much they take on.  That means we'll need temporary mods for each language, people will have to help me set up multilingual swear filters, etc. etc... but a lot of that could wait until after a trial run is completed.

Should I put up a poll to vote?


Poll seems good to me.

I wouldn't be worried about your english level, Yannick - I'm making grammar mistakes all the time, and I'm a mod here! English is old and fancy language, but you don't need to speak it perfectly to get your point across - besides, you only learn things by doing them, over and over again.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 22, 2014, 07:33:31 AM
Awesome post, Nimphy.  Two points, very well made.

Personally, I'm wary of the idea of separate language boards; division seems to be the more likely outcome, to me, partly because I've had a hard time with languages in the past...  and for anyone who either doesn't have the time or desire to learn a new language, it would effectively lock them out of a section of the forum.  However, I think it would be worth trying for, at the very least, a solid month, so we could see how much they take on.  That means we'll need temporary mods for each language, people will have to help me set up multilingual swear filters, etc. etc... but a lot of that could wait until after a trial run is completed.

Should I put up a poll to vote?

Why not try? Right now I could see boards for French (duh), Spanish, Norwegian and Danish (not sure if a single board would do, as they're so similar). And maybe other languages? Well, a poll seems a good idea.

P.S: I'm not very convinced that our community may remain intact, but it's still worth a try!

Thank you Nimphy for reading my long post and making a long answer :)

Heh, I love reading and answering to long posts, especially because you do have some pretty good points.

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OK, I am ready to take this challenge.
That's excellent! We'll be very happy to help you!

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Dividing the community is the last thing is want
Yup, I'm sure your intention was never to divide the community.

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Hum, I am pretty sure Minna would not mind if we managed to attract new readers :D
Even if you can easily read english, you obviously make google shearches in the languages you are the most comfortable with. And only if you find nothing, you switch to english.
I often found webcomics thanks to 1 comment in french with the keywords I used.
"highly improbable" if you multiply by the vast number of google users can still make a lot.
Even if it doesn't work I think it is worth trying, to maybe attract new readers (I have more posts wainting in my head on this subject)

Hmm, you do have a point here. Well, trying won't cost us anything and we may gain some newmembers, so I vote "aye!"

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Yeah it was like that I was seing it (alas even writting in french I am frequently misunderstood)
Nah, I'm the misunderstand-people type of girl.

So, now that I've made my points, I'll step back (hopefully) and let the rest of the community decide very democratically (*waiting for an epic web-fight*).
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: RumbleRose on October 22, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
I am the most fluent in English and Dutch and I know there most likely won't be a Dutch forum, but I do not need a Dutch forum .

I would like it if there were discussion boards in other languages, because I like to try reed and learn that language! I think the forum world won't fall apart, there must be enough people like Yannick and even some which do not join the forum because they do not feel comftable with talking english.

I can't find any harm in the boards and I know some people like Nimphy are afraid of the change it will cause, do not fear the most interesting ideas will most likely be placed on the English board since most of the people here will still be active on the english boards, because of hte people/community outside their language they have taken a liking to.

Yup that's my opinion+motivation for today. And if I stated something which you actually aren't I am sorry I can't see your face expressions in a text.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 22, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
I am the most fluent in English and Dutch and I know there most likely won't be a Dutch forum, but I do not need a Dutch forum .

I would like it if there were discussion boards in other languages, because I like to try reed and learn that language! I think the forum world won't fall apart, there must be enough people like Yannick and even some which do not join the forum because they do not feel comftable with talking english.

I can't find any harm in the boards and I know some people like Nimphy are afraid of the change it will cause, do not fear the most interesting ideas will most likely be placed on the English board since most of the people here will still be active on the english boards, because of hte people/community outside their language they have taken a liking to.

Yup that's my opinion+motivation for today. And if I stated something which you actually aren't I am sorry I can't see your face expressions in a text.

I'm not afraid of the change - I welcome change, and as I said I'd love a languages board to get to practice my poor poor German/Norwegian/whatever else skills. What I wouldn't really like to happen is the community dividing. Let's put it this way - Yannick, (who actually seems genuinely eager to try and speak with us, and I'm taking just as a general example to avoid using XXXX for names) feels uncomfortable with his (or her?) English with us. Having a French board, he mostly talks about whatver he wants to talk about in French with other francophones, thus avoiding potentially embarrasing mistakes in English (which of course we don't mind, but most foreigners will know the feeling). Rollo and FrogEater (who are also French I believe) are people who can make really interesting conversations, and thus the combination makes our example-Yannick more comfortable in his little French spot. We thus lose a member. Now, ThisCat, our Norwegian poet, likes writing in Norwegian - there, we also lost some poems. Entire conversations, wonderful arguments , even some correct guessing about the plot may be lost between the various languages. Sure, someone may report them later in all the threads, but it wouldn't be the same.

Now, I'm not against it, for the hundredth time, I'd love such a board - my only concern is that it may divide the community. Oh, but we'll never know unless we try, will we?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 22, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
Alright, there's a general consensus so far.  Let's give it a go.

Now, what would be considered a large enough group to have a board?  Obviously, it only takes two to have a conversation, but it's also true that only two people with an entire sub-board all to themselves will likely not be on at the same time, unless they coordinate what times they want to talk.  Even something like 5 people would be kind of low.  Heck, the forum has ~200 members and, even with that many, there are still times when nobody is on.  I'll post a big, red sign up at the news thing (where the comic link is, right now) telling everyone to check out this thread and give their thoughts.

Also, could I get some language names listed out in... their... language?  Like, in English, we say "French," but in French it's, "Français," I think. 
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 22, 2014, 05:43:50 PM
Also, could I get some language names listed out in... their... language?  Like, in English, we say "French," but in French it's, "Français," I think.

Uh, Norsk, Dansk and Svenska.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Panzer_Engel on October 22, 2014, 05:50:29 PM
I would have to agree with Nimphy. I love the idea of 'learn a language' threads, but I worry about the division of our fledgeling community if duplicate boards are set up.

As for embarrassment. . . Well, yes. But we don't seem the sort of people to mock someone for their efforts in a foreign language, do we? :-[
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 22, 2014, 05:58:44 PM
I would have to agree with Nimphy. I love the idea of 'learn a language' threads, but I worry about the division of our fledgeling community if duplicate boards are set up.

As for embarrassment. . . Well, yes. But we don't seem the sort of people to mock someone for their efforts in a foreign language, do we? :-[
It's just a trial run.  We'll try it out for a while and, if it works well, the boards get some consistent usage, and everyone's happy, they'll stay.  If they cause problems, or aren't ideal, we can make some adjustments or, if they fail utterly, then we can remove them.  This little test run will last at least one month, unless the fail utterly thing happens (but I doubt it will come to that).  :P

And, no, we don't have anyone here who would mock someone for imperfect writing.  I mean, half of the things I write don't obey any English grammar rules. 
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: JoB on October 22, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
Alright, there's a general consensus so far.
... there is? I don't think I'ld be able to summarize the above discussion into a concise declaration of purpose to save my life ...

for anyone who either doesn't have the time or desire to learn a new language, it would effectively lock them out of a section of the forum.
To the contrary, if the other-language boards do take off in the first place, you'll hear said users say that they're getting sucked into them, as there currently is no way to remove the "hey, there's stuff in here that you haven't read yet!!!" power-flag-waving other than to at least enter the respective boards and threads. Expect them to ask for installation of add-ons that allow them to "unsubscribe" or "one-click 'mark read'" the parts that are complete gibberish to them.

(To give credit where credit is due, having the non-principal-language stuff contained in separate boards is pretty much a requirement to allow such functionality.)

Hum, I am pretty sure Minna would not mind if we managed to attract new readers :D
Minna has effectively given the nod to translations of the comic being made and posted on someone else's webserver before, which very obviously is going to keep predominantly other-language would-be readers away from her own.

Even if you can easily read english, you obviously make google shearches in the languages you are the most comfortable with. And only if you find nothing, you switch to english.
Completely OT, but short of doing only an image search, I'll try to dig up pages in whatever language I'm going to use them with. Which is, of course, English as soon as I intend to post the link in the SSSS comments section. (And yes, I have done web searches with search terms that I had to obtain from an online translation service beforehand, as I actually didn't speak the target language myself.)

Also, could I get some language names listed out in... their... language?  Like, in English, we say "French," but in French it's, "Français," I think.
As long as it's "Deutsch" but "Deutsches Unterforum", "in Deutscher Sprache", "für Deutsche", etc. ad insanitas, you might want to have entire snippets of text translated instead ...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Yannick on October 22, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
I think I have an idea to limit prospectives problems!
My proposal : ONE new board only, with maximum 3 topics by language, and only the possibility to no-moderators to reply, but not create new topics.

So the board can contain:
(http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/Themes/Gray/images/topic/veryhot_post_sticky.gif) Ask new languages (to ask/vote addition of new languages)
French - Français - SSSS
French - Français - A Redtail's Dream
French - Français - General Discussion
Spanish - Español - SSSS
Spanish - Español - A Redtail's Dream
Spanish - Español - General Discussion
...
So there is enough space to speak, but not so much that it risk to outgrow the english parts.
And "SSSS" and "A Redtail's Dream" topics will begin with a short translated summary of the comics.
"General Discussion" topic can allow those who want to practice a language to do so more freely.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Richard Weir on October 22, 2014, 08:11:58 PM
As a 100% English-only user, I am perfectly happy with there being some other language sub-sections. I seriously doubt they will dilute the English section, as the vast majority of content will be in English - just through following the language SSSS is written in! However, they will facilitate communication in other languages, and make life easier for people who can read English well enough to read the comic, but struggle to express themselves in English.

My only fear is that the other-language forums may fall into disuse and become under-moderated, in which case they could end up being targeted by spammers - but that is a situation which can be dealt with *if* and when it comes about.

Certainly the experiment is well worth trying. I suspect that if it fails then it will be because there is too little demand for them rather than too much.

I seem to remember Minna posted stats of aRTD readership by nationality; it might be worth looking at them to get an idea of the best languages to consider.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: StellersJayC on October 23, 2014, 12:58:03 AM
I like everyone's ideas on this matter. Personally, I would love a chance to practice my German. My knowledge of vocabulary is tiny and though I know - simple - grammar, I have not had very much practice and tend to make silly mistakes all the time. (Remember Eichhoernchen versus Einhoernchen? I think that was it, anyway.)

I like the idea of having a max number of threads for each language because I can not imagine the SSSS community becoming separated with only three threads to choose from. I don't think it hurts to try something new.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 23, 2014, 01:52:14 AM
Hmm, then I cast my vote for Français, Español, Deutsch (remind me never to speak German in JoB's presence), Norsk, Dansk, Svenska and Suomi for Suomikitty.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: JoB on October 23, 2014, 08:27:40 AM
(remind me never to speak German in JoB's presence)
If I get your drift correctly, my presence would be short-lived, anyway. And marked terminated by a supersonic boom. :P
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: FrogEater on October 23, 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Sooo... this is an active thread, isn't it ?
Not sure to remember all the ideas and proposals, forgive me if I'm redundant.
1 - Although being french, although not being bilingual (by far !), I'm not for running SSSS-related discussions in languages other than English (US accepted, nonetheless ;-) ). The comic is in English, we all use (with more or less ease) English, we are not (not yet !) millions of minions... let's keep it simple and secure.
2 - However, it would be a pity not to take profit of the vast choice of languages and language-curiosity we have here. Then I'm OK with the idea of mutual language assistance/teaching/various services. Should some interesting SSSS-related stuff emerge in the process, it would be up to the folks there to bring it to the common pot. Aren't we supposed to be responsible adults, after all ? :-)
3 - To yannick : relax ! your English is just efficient and fine :-) and the Collins dictionary is an invaluable help. Y a pas de honte à avoir ! (english translation available on request)

Now, that presentation thread...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: kjeks on October 23, 2014, 02:42:26 PM
Hmm, then I cast my vote for Français, Español, Deutsch (remind me never to speak German in JoB's presence), Norsk, Dansk, Svenska and Suomi for Suomikitty.

It took me about 20 minutes working through the whole thread but I like the Idea and the languages offered. Mainly I'd be aktive in the english section because there I can meet people from everywhere. The presence of other languages will be a motivation to try conversation in any other language.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Headfinder on October 23, 2014, 03:19:15 PM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).

The thing is, do we realy need such a board (now)? The language exchange thread is far from crowded, and any potential multilingual board should be the next step to said thread. Let's give the community the chance to grow some more before we do something huge that we might not really need yet, or it'll probably end up dying from inactivity.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 23, 2014, 03:52:57 PM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes!! This is pefect! The original idea behind the "multilanguage boards" was to share language and culture, and you found a brilliant way to do it! Let's have it in English AND the other languages!

For example, we could move the LEP in the Languages board so it's more evident and relevant, and some topics that are dead ("Learning Russian" is the first that comes to mind, and I think part of the problem with it was that the forum didn't display cyrillic letters. I would love to do a "Learning Italian" thread, and I'm sure the joint forces of all our nordic speakers would delight the non-nordic community. Plus, my Spanish needs practice and I'm kinda interested in reviving what little French I used to know) could be revived. I would mostly lurk around and do my best to learn a little of everything. And of course there could be the Global Mythology and I would be kinda interested in another FOTA Race. All in English, with the original language translation!

The "Groups" also look like a good idea. I always find it interesting how I can understand other Romance languages (which are mostly French and Portuguese, with some bits of Romanian I can understand if they're spoken out loud) even if I couldn't speak them to save my life. Also, maybe whatever I learn in Norwegian can also be applied to Danish and Swedish.

And I'm all for the Vocaroo thread. Bring it on!!



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The thing is, do we realy need such a board (now)? The language exchange mthread is far from crowded, and any potential multilingual board should be the next step to said thread. Let's give the community the chance to grow some more before we do something huge that we might not really need yet, or it'll probably end up dying from inactivity.

You do have a point, but this would be a trial of a month, not more. If it works, we keep it and enjoy the board, if it doesn't then we just forget it ever happened. Easy, no?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 23, 2014, 04:58:09 PM
Also, maybe whatever I learn in Norwegian can also be applied to Danish and Swedish.

You'll probably find that you'll be able to read Danish with some extra effort. At any rate it would be great if we could recruit more Swedes and Danes.

As far as moderation go I'm with Headfinder. Users can report abuses to a moderator. For the Norwegian/Danish/Swedish thread at least there will be several fluent speakers who can corroborate reports so that abuse (hypothetical situation really) doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Noah O. on October 23, 2014, 04:59:54 PM
German. Y'know why? Because Germans are awesome. (Side note: I'm not German. Just sayin'.) Their scientists are second to none, their weaponry is off the charts, and the simple efficiency and proficiency of their activities appeals to me. Also, Oktoberfest.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: StellersJayC on October 23, 2014, 09:23:22 PM
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes!! This is pefect! The original idea behind the "multilanguage boards" was to share language and culture, and you found a brilliant way to do it! Let's have it in English AND the other languages!

This sounds like a lot of fun! I can't wait to get my grammar corrected! (I want to get it right, and the only way to do that is through practice.)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 23, 2014, 10:07:28 PM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).

The thing is, do we realy need such a board (now)? The language exchange thread is far from crowded, and any potential multilingual board should be the next step to said thread. Let's give the community the chance to grow some more before we do something huge that we might not really need yet, or it'll probably end up dying from inactivity.
Well, this idea pretty much kicks ass.  (You must've found a pretty good head somewhere.   ;))
I'll put up a poll with a yes/no vote, but this gets a yes from me. 

I'd prefer to have it as a separate board from the GDB.  Child boards will tell you their parent board has new posts, because they're stuck inside the parent.  I had something similar on another forum, and it was always slightly misleading.  It works well for clustered but separate information, but the GDB is too broad for that, I think. 
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Lenny on October 23, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).

The thing is, do we realy need such a board (now)? The language exchange thread is far from crowded, and any potential multilingual board should be the next step to said thread. Let's give the community the chance to grow some more before we do something huge that we might not really need yet, or it'll probably end up dying from inactivity.

Also a yes from me. The other board ideas sounded much too exclusive, but this one is perfect. Brilliant idea~
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Sparky Dragon on October 23, 2014, 11:15:51 PM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.


I vote for this, and for cupcakes!
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: kjeks on October 24, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).


It seems I deleted some of the things I intended to say in the morning. So nex try:

I like your Idea and it seems a good solution. The name sounds good and every language can be tried at different topics :).


Also, Oktoberfest.

Off you go! ;) I can really scary stories of this event in the new board. Uach.

Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: potatobunny on October 24, 2014, 01:41:29 AM
Well, that link was misleading.

Right now, I'd say no to the idea. The way it's taking (making separate threads for each language), it'll just divide the community or spawn boards with no activity, and it'll feel too constraining.

Something more relaxed, a board for free discussion of foreign languages and cultures, where speaking a foreign language is actually encouraged, that's what came to my mind when I read multiligual; and that's something I might back.

Maybe we can get nordic or romance threads, learning threads for specific languages, history threads, or even vocaroo threads: Post something in your language, make a recording of yourself on other people's posts and link it to the thread for laughs, rating, learning and tip sharing...
Whatever comes.

Although it'd be a hell to moderate, user input and reporting would be useful here (both from reporter and reported, lest someone falsely accuses people for the sake of drama), and since such a board wouldn't necesarliy be related to SSSS or aRTD, we could make it a sub board on the General Discussion Board (Can I sugest Tower of Babel as a name?).

The thing is, do we realy need such a board (now)? The language exchange thread is far from crowded, and any potential multilingual board should be the next step to said thread. Let's give the community the chance to grow some more before we do something huge that we might not really need yet, or it'll probably end up dying from inactivity.

I voted no up in the poll, but I like Headfinder's suggestions.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 26, 2014, 01:11:53 PM
So I think that's a general consensus for Headfinder's idea. When do you think the new board will be ready? (Grrr, I never understood how to phrase English questions when they're double questions)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 26, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
So I think that's a general consensus for Headfinder's idea. When do you think the new board will be ready? (Grrr, I never understood how to phrase English questions when they're double questions)
I would have phrased that the same way.  I use sentences that start with, "I think," as statements all the time.  I'll get started on it tomorrow, assuming I'm not mutilated, or otherwise unexpectedly interrupted, on the way home from work.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 28, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
I would have phrased that the same way.  I use sentences that start with, "I think," as statements all the time.  I'll get started on it tomorrow, assuming I'm not mutilated, or otherwise unexpectedly interrupted, on the way home from work.
Well, I was otherwise unexpectedly interrupted.  Felt pretty terrible after about 7:00, and couldn't do anything for a while.  Left a couple posts here today, but that was it.  I'll see about jumping on this tomorrow; I want it done quick, after all.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 28, 2014, 06:28:31 PM
The board exists.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Solovei on October 29, 2014, 11:51:07 AM
The board exists.

It seems to be going quite well so far, but I noticed that it seems to have trouble displaying certain alphabets. Fenris posted  something in rusian and it showed up as a lot of emoticons... Is there a unicode setting or something we can change? I haven't tried it yet with other things like Japanese or Korean...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Nimphy on October 29, 2014, 12:35:18 PM
It seems to be going quite well so far, but I noticed that it seems to have trouble displaying certain alphabets. Fenris posted  something in rusian and it showed up as a lot of emoticons... Is there a unicode setting or something we can change? I haven't tried it yet with other things like Japanese or Korean...

It's the same problem with the "learning Russian" thread. The site doesn't display cyrillic characters and possibly anything that isn't normal latin alphabet (and it's variants, like æ, ä, å, ã, ?, etc.)

EDIT: apparently it doesn't even show all of the variants of latin characters!
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: potatobunny on October 29, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
I haven't tried it yet with other things like Japanese or Korean...

I can confirm that Chinese characters don't show up either.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: ruth on October 29, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
I can confirm that Chinese characters don't show up either.

same goes for anything under unihan, so japanese and korean are also a no go.

did some tests with latin extended-a, extended-b, and greek. i think we're restricted so far to the very first two sets, which are basic latin, and latin-1 supplement.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on October 29, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
I'll play around with the language settings soon.  I know Russian is an option for the site, but I'm not sure if it will completely change over everything, or if there's a way to simply add an alphabet and characters. 
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on November 02, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
Just going to air an idea here: I know we've been consciously trying to keep the number of boards down. However, would it be an idea to consider a "Creative Content" board? There are loads of threads with lots of creative work going on, but unfortunately many of these may not get enough exposure where they presently are due to the growth of other threads.
This board would encompass all creative threads, primarily the fan art gallery, the general art gallery (or "museum"), the SSSS musical thread, the poetry thread and possibly the Nanowrimo-thread.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Silenter on November 02, 2014, 09:42:44 PM
Just going to air an idea here: I know we've been consciously trying to keep the number of boards down. However, would it be an idea to consider a "Creative Content" board? There are loads of threads with lots of creative work going on, but unfortunately many of these may not get enough exposure where they presently are due to the growth of other threads.
This board would encompass all creative threads, primarily the fan art gallery, the general art gallery (or "museum"), the SSSS musical thread, the poetry thread and possibly the Nanowrimo-thread.
That would be nice. We could just put them into categories of Art, Writing, Music, etc., if that helps.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Sunflower on November 06, 2014, 12:05:31 AM
Hey, Thor and Troll-Slayer:

Would it be possible to split off the later posts to "The Fate of Foreigners in Iceland" into a new thread?  Ideally called something like "Advanced Technology Speculation" because starting here,
http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=43.msg1091#msg1091, the conversation moves into speculating about whether the Known World has aviation, space flight, radio satellites, etc.

I keep thinking those topics have popped up on other existing threads, so I'll check.  I also wanted to bring in a long back-and-forth from ~p. 207 or so re: the state of radio communication in the Catmobile and its pros and cons vs. Mage-O-Phone. 

I'll make separate posts if I run into other thread segments I think would make sense as free-standing folders.  Would you rather I alerted you via a post in "Improvements" or DMs, vs. what I'm doing here?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: noako on November 06, 2014, 02:51:50 AM
Hey, Thor and Troll-Slayer:

Would it be possible to split off the later posts to "The Fate of Foreigners in Iceland" into a new thread?  Ideally called something like "Advanced Technology Speculation" because starting here,
http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=43.msg1091#msg1091, the conversation moves into speculating about whether the Known World has aviation, space flight, radio satellites, etc.

I keep thinking those topics have popped up on other existing threads, so I'll check.  I also wanted to bring in a long back-and-forth from ~p. 207 or so re: the state of radio communication in the Catmobile and its pros and cons vs. Mage-O-Phone. 

I'll make separate posts if I run into other thread segments I think would make sense as free-standing folders.  Would you rather I alerted you via a post in "Improvements" or DMs, vs. what I'm doing here?


Done!
  Well, logically thinking, "Bugs and things to fix" thread should be used for things like these, but I think it should also be reserved for more "serious", like actual bugs.
Should I make a completely new thread for this? Like "Not really serious things to fix"? Like... When you want to get the attention of mods, but so that everyone can see it?? Tell me what you think (And if you like the idea suggest a name for a topic  :P)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Richard Weir on November 06, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
A good idea - "Moderation issues" would do for those non-urgent issues that don't really need the Report Button.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Solovei on November 11, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
I hope this is the right place to put this...

We have a fanart thread which is doing very well, so I was wondering if we should start one for fanfiction as well, for those of us of a non-artistic persuasion? What do people think about this?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: ThisCat on November 11, 2014, 06:41:28 PM
I hope this is the right place to put this...

We have a fanart thread which is doing very well, so I was wondering if we should start one for fanfiction as well, for those of us of a non-artistic persuasion? What do people think about this?

Fanfiction thread could be nice. I suppose if you've written anything you can just start it and hope it catches on?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 06:48:07 PM
I hope this is the right place to put this...

We have a fanart thread which is doing very well, so I was wondering if we should start one for fanfiction as well, for those of us of a non-artistic persuasion? What do people think about this?
That sounds okay to me.  I'd prefer it if shipping fics were kept to a minimum, though.  Think y'all can handle that?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: ThisCat on November 11, 2014, 07:00:35 PM
That sounds okay to me.  I'd prefer it if shipping fics were kept to a minimum, though.  Think y'all can handle that?

I figure as long as there's warnings on the shipping-fics it should be fine. Not that I want to read them, but I'm sure many do.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on November 11, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
That sounds okay to me.  I'd prefer it if shipping fics were kept to a minimum, though.  Think y'all can handle that?

Afraid of a little homoerotica?  ;)

In all seriousness, I think shipping should be more closely defined. It goes without saying that content must be family friendly.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Solovei on November 11, 2014, 07:06:34 PM
Afraid of a little homoerotica?

In all seriousness, I think shipping should be more closely defined. It goes without saying that content must be family friendly.
I agree! We haven't had any problems with that so far (that I've seen), and judging by the Disqus comments many people are supportive of the more platonic kinds of shipping for our characters (I believe the term broshipping has been mentioned?). I think that's quite different, and would lead to very different art/fanfiction than the more romantically-oriented stuff.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 07:35:40 PM
I figure as long as there's warnings on the shipping-fics it should be fine. Not that I want to read them, but I'm sure many do.
Keep that on fanfic.net, if it goes beyond friendshipping.  Links... are fine I guess.

I agree! We haven't had any problems with that so far (that I've seen), and judging by the Disqus comments many people are supportive of the more platonic kinds of shipping for our characters (I believe the term broshipping has been mentioned?). I think that's quite different, and would lead to very different art/fanfiction than the more romantically-oriented stuff.
Again, friendshipping is fine.  If I see anything above a PG rating, as far as any kind of romance goes, I'll ask that it goes in a link instead, even if it's short enough for a post...  It is kind of dumb, but it lays a good ground to prevent anything... less than appropriate.  Also, I so much as catch wind of any kind of erotica, I'm removing the link.  That. Is. not. what I want for this forum.  I don't like that I have to say that, but at the rate we're getting new members, it might be necessary (keyword = might.  probably not).
Anything similar to the comic itself, i.e. some infrequent swearing (anything is fine, even the asterisked words), violence and gore, etc. are all fine.   If Minna wouldn't do it (concerning things like this, at least.  Obviously the point of fanfictions is to deviate from what the artist would do.), please refrain. 
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: TBA on January 11, 2015, 05:32:45 AM
I was wondering about a thread for the Deviant Art fan club Minnas-Minnions  http://minnas-minions.deviantart.com/ Myself and a few other fans run it and it would be nice to have a spot to announce things we are doing. It might also help grow the group and give the members somewhere else to show off their fan art.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Fimbulvarg on January 11, 2015, 05:39:09 AM
I was wondering about a thread for the Deviant Art fan club Minnas-Minnions  http://minnas-minions.deviantart.com/ Myself and a few other fans run it and it would be nice to have a spot to announce things we are doing. It might also help grow the group and give the members somewhere else to show off their fan art.
Simple threads you can usually just go ahead and create yourself in the appropriate board (Either the SSSS-board or the GD-board). If you don't know how then let us know. This thread here is more for suggesting new boards.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: viola on February 07, 2017, 10:16:46 AM
Hey All!

So I was sitting here thinking, since Minna's got this great new game project she's working on, how many of you would be interested in a sub-board under the main Stand Still Stay Silent board for threads related to the game? I know we don't really have much now, but I have a feeling it will grow, and it might be nice to start now with organizing it, so we don't have to go hunting for everything in a few months.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: JacobThomsen on February 07, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
Hey All!

So I was sitting here thinking, since Minna's got this great new game project she's working on, how many of you would be interested in a sub-board under the main Stand Still Stay Silent board for threads related to the game? I know we don't really have much now, but I have a feeling it will grow, and it might be nice to start now with organizing it, so we don't have to go hunting for everything in a few months.

Thoughts?
That definitely sounds like something we should do
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2017, 03:40:00 PM
Hey All!

So I was sitting here thinking, since Minna's got this great new game project she's working on, how many of you would be interested in a sub-board under the main Stand Still Stay Silent board for threads related to the game? I know we don't really have much now, but I have a feeling it will grow, and it might be nice to start now with organizing it, so we don't have to go hunting for everything in a few months.

Thoughts?

That sounds like a great idea! :)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on February 07, 2017, 07:43:46 PM
Hey All!

So I was sitting here thinking, since Minna's got this great new game project she's working on, how many of you would be interested in a sub-board under the main Stand Still Stay Silent board for threads related to the game? I know we don't really have much now, but I have a feeling it will grow, and it might be nice to start now with organizing it, so we don't have to go hunting for everything in a few months.

Thoughts?
Sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: viola on February 08, 2017, 02:15:00 PM
Alright everyone! Go have some fun! (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?board=12.0)

I'll see what we can do about getting the main game blog page linked to the Minna's Comics dropdown.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Ragnarok on February 09, 2017, 08:59:06 AM
I think a politics/civics board, if someone could be counted on to mod it, would be useful. A free and Frank exchange of ideas and information improves things. Of course, there's a risk of a repeat of the Lallipop Incident that resulted in the Diversity Thread being abandoned.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: thorny on February 09, 2017, 10:28:16 AM
It was my impression that the Diversity thread wasn't officially abandoned/locked, but that until/unless there's more relevant information made available either in the comic or from Minna we'd run out of new things (or at least of new things both polite and relevant) to say on the subject, and that the moderators had requested we not keep going over and over the same stuff. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

-- I'd be interested in a politics/civics board; and having one might keep the politics out of other threads, where it's possible it's unwanted though I haven't noticed complaints -- complaints might not be on the thread, though, I wouldn't know if the mods have gotten any. However such a board would require extra work from the moderators, and I don't know whether they want to do it.

The amount of work could perhaps be reduced by warning people that the moderation exists but also that it might not take effect immediately. I don't know whether a posting delay is practical on these boards, which would seem to be the other alternative. -- maybe it would also, or alternatively, help to restrict it as I understand the adult-content board is restricted: in order to post you have to have made x number of posts in other boards first and then to ask permission to be admitted?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Sc0ut on February 09, 2017, 12:15:15 PM
It was my impression that the Diversity thread wasn't officially abandoned/locked, but that until/unless there's more relevant information made available either in the comic or from Minna we'd run out of new things (or at least of new things both polite and relevant) to say on the subject, and that the moderators had requested we not keep going over and over the same stuff. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

That's exactly my impression as well. I think we simply exhausted the topic, and activity will resume only when/if there will be more talk or appearances of other cultures in the comic. The thread's not locked at the moment.

As for "risk of a repeat of the Lallipop Incident", 1. it was unpleasant and embarrassing but it didn't kill anyone and 2. I don't think taking decisions based on an isolated event is a good idea. If people want this board, we should make it and see what happens imho. People worried and made a huge fuss over the suggestion of a nsfw board, but it hasn't created any single problem so far. It seems we're usually more paranoid than necessary.
Any new board or thread can be locked if it proves too much trouble.

That being said, I don't think there's a need to keep politics out of other threads as long as they don't take over completely. In something like a general thread, political discussion arises more naturally, in context, which usually makes things less polarized.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: PickleChip on April 10, 2017, 12:38:15 AM
Hi. I was thinking about making a thread where we could ask for and give advice to each other. I don't know if there is one already, but I thought it would be kinda cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Sunflower on April 10, 2017, 03:42:11 AM
Hi. I was thinking about making a thread where we could ask for and give advice to each other. I don't know if there is one already, but I thought it would be kinda cool.  ;D

Hi, PickleChip.  That's a worthy idea.  But since we like to minimize the amount of overlap between thread topics, check out some of these first:
* The Comfort Corner  (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=384.0)(where people often offer advice as well as pat-pats for other people's troubles)
* How to Adult (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=664.0)
* Various specific subjects, from cooking to archery

If you're looking to get or give advice on a specific subject, that's generally easier for people to find and reply to. 

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Kelpie on April 10, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Well, since this board has been brought back, I've been thinking for a bit about having a board to chat about TTRPGs? I see that there is a board game thread but nowhere for me to cry when my party gets eaten by Tiamat next weekend. I know there are quite a few people here that play them, and it'd be kind of nice to have a board to talk about different systems or swap awful stories.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Abprallen on April 10, 2017, 03:27:24 PM
Well, since this board has been brought back, I've been thinking for a bit about having a board to chat about TTRPGs? I see that there is a board game thread but nowhere for me to cry when my party gets eaten by Tiamat next weekend. I know there are quite a few people here that play them, and it'd be kind of nice to have a board to talk about different systems or swap awful stories.

What do you guys think?
I'd be totally down for this. I have a few stories that could be funny :)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: viola on April 10, 2017, 07:43:40 PM
Well, since this board has been brought back, I've been thinking for a bit about having a board to chat about TTRPGs? I see that there is a board game thread but nowhere for me to cry when my party gets eaten by Tiamat next weekend. I know there are quite a few people here that play them, and it'd be kind of nice to have a board to talk about different systems or swap awful stories.

What do you guys think?

Do you mean a board or a thread? Because if you want to make a thread you don't have to ask permission. You can totally start a thread about TTRPGs in the general discussion board.
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Kelpie on April 10, 2017, 10:18:28 PM
Do you mean a board or a thread? Because if you want to make a thread you don't have to ask permission. You can totally start a thread about TTRPGs in the general discussion board.
Yeah, I meant a thread. :'D But cool, alright! I have no idea how the forum actually functions so I thought I'd post here first and see what happened.

Now I just have to sit around for probably like three hours to think of a title and an opening post...

EDIT: Eight hours later... I see why I have caused confusion. This is ideas for new boards. Not threads.
(http://i.imgur.com/XxaLpDE.jpg?1)
haha yeah I'll go make that thread now bye
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: viola on April 11, 2017, 10:26:08 AM
Yeah, I meant a thread. :'D But cool, alright! I have no idea how the forum actually functions so I thought I'd post here first and see what happened.

Now I just have to sit around for probably like three hours to think of a title and an opening post...

EDIT: Eight hours later... I see why I have caused confusion. This is ideas for new boards. Not threads.
(http://i.imgur.com/XxaLpDE.jpg?1)
haha yeah I'll go make that thread now bye

No worries! That's what we're here for :)

I remember the first time I wanted to start a thread.... I was so terrified that I actually made my friend Ana Nymus start it for me...  ::)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: Ana Nymus on April 11, 2017, 06:06:53 PM
No worries! That's what we're here for :)

I remember the first time I wanted to start a thread.... I was so terrified that I actually made my friend Ana Nymus start it for me...  ::)

I remember it too! Good times, good times  ;)
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: JoB on September 17, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Am I misremembering? I thought that we already had a test board (where posts would automagically be deleted after a short while) ...

FWIW, since I don't want to create a number of throwaway accounts with repeated registration attempts, I'ld like to try to make a post that the filter between the reverse proxy and the actual SMF blocks so that we can show Jody S a screenshot to compare to the error message she sees. IIRC the block page is entirely white with a rather nondescript one-liner message ...
Title: Re: Ideas for new Boards
Post by: viola on September 18, 2018, 11:15:30 AM
Am I misremembering? I thought that we already had a test board (where posts would automagically be deleted after a short while) ...

FWIW, since I don't want to create a number of throwaway accounts with repeated registration attempts, I'ld like to try to make a post that the filter between the reverse proxy and the actual SMF blocks so that we can show Jody S a screenshot to compare to the error message she sees. IIRC the block page is entirely white with a rather nondescript one-liner message ...

There is a test forum. It's over hereeeee http://dev.ssssforum.com/