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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3630 on: June 24, 2020, 09:34:57 AM »
Not just swearwords. Sometimes it is insanely paranoid. I have had it censor a perfectly innocuous plant name.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3631 on: June 24, 2020, 12:06:27 PM »
Did Minna ever state that there would be another major character death in adv 2 or 3 in one of her streams, comments, etc.?
I saw someone in a relatively recent (as in around one year old) 4chan /co/ thread say that Minna confirmed this at some point.
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I never heard any comment about that, at least in the comments section or in the Forum, but there may be somewhere, and I seldom watch the streams. I think, however, that something so big would have been mentioned by now.

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if that happened, particularly with Onni, in the context of a sacrifice to save Lalli (or someone else, or them all). It would make sense for the character (psychologically speaking), fit what Tuuri said about them meeting again and add impact (and drama) to the closing of this story arc.
In fact it makes so much sense to me that I (speaking as someone that writes stories) would put his chances of survival in the 50%, while all the others are well above 90%.

But of course I like him and would like him to survive (I even put him in my "Home" picture in the previous Break).

I also never noticed the censorship machine. As someone that loathes this kind of thing I'd propose to the administrators to turn it off, if possible.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3632 on: June 24, 2020, 12:30:56 PM »
I am 100% certain that Minna wouldn’t state it either way, notwithstanding what she’s planning to do. She doesn’t want to give spoilers a week beforehand, she definitely wouldn’t say something like that.

Back at the time of Tuuri’s death she wrote how she’d noticed several people having misunderstood or misremember something she’d said before that as a promise to not have any major characters die, but she couldn’t comment on that anymore as the situation was ongoing.

There is often talk of characters dying on the stream, mostly in the chat. Maybe someone has misunderstood something. In any case, as grey says, it would definitely be here already if she had even hinted something like that.

I’m going to be upset if Onni or anybody dies! I mean, of course I will, but I think I’ll probably be a bit angry as well for a while. But, we know it’s a possibility. Hopefully a remote one, but still.

As for the censorship machine, I don’t think it’s going to change. The American raters are completely paranoid over foul language in games and movies, and since this is to follow P13 rules, we can’t have swearing. I personally find it ridiculous, but this is not built just for me, so...

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3633 on: June 24, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »
It’s not multilingual, so you can swear in your own language if it’s not English :)
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3634 on: June 24, 2020, 01:16:37 PM »
It’s not multilingual, so you can swear in your own language if it’s not English :)

Ha ha! ;D

Well, Google translate says that the first word means "devil", the second "faeces" and the third must be so terrible that it didn't manage to translate at all... At least we know that we can swear in Finnish! :)

And I also agree that it's ridiculous! As if children didn't learn that, and much worse, with their colleagues, on day-by-day situations or, in some cases, at home...

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3635 on: June 24, 2020, 01:45:50 PM »
Oh noes! Not the home! My children have definitely never heard any such words at home!

The third word is the second word in Swedish :)
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3636 on: June 24, 2020, 05:04:48 PM »
I also remember Minna being asked directly in streams, and she skitters away from confirming or denying, as Jitter said.  I think the closest she's come is to remind that the comic is set in a world where a deadly illness kills most of the population.  And in truth, we have since 'seen' character death, in the guise of the flashback to the events of Y79.

As for the censor, it predates my time as a mod, but I do believe it's mostly to keep the PG-13 rating and with the youngest users of the Forum in mind.  I don't know offhand what all words are censored, but I personally think it's a bit cute in substituting 'duck' for the cuss word that rhymes with it.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3637 on: June 24, 2020, 05:17:54 PM »
It’s not multilingual, so you can swear in your own language if it’s not English :)
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3638 on: June 26, 2020, 10:43:48 AM »
Thank you all for the information/insight, both about my initial question and regarding the censorship.
I also initially thought that it would have been a subject of discussion at some point in the fandom, but I thought that it had happened before I joined the fandom and also the forum and the discussion had died down after some time. I’m quite relieved to know that no such thing ever happened, because it would have gone very much against Minna’s “no major spoilers” policy to outright say that and torture us with the thought that we’re gonna be losing someone once again.

Róisín, Now you’ve made me curious, would you mind sharing the plant’s name that the forum’s algorithm found so repulsive?

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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3639 on: June 26, 2020, 11:21:02 AM »
P...y tails (think of kitten tails). Right silly!
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3640 on: June 26, 2020, 11:49:24 AM »
Oh, in that case I think I understand why it chose to censor it ;D
Even still, the algorithm needs to learn (aka be updated) to understand the words’ context more.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3641 on: June 26, 2020, 07:18:08 PM »
P...y tails (think of kitten tails). Right silly!

Heh... probably the same or a similar plant with toes instead of tails was responsible for an entire report going missing - government email nanny kept deleting the email and attachment with no trace, so the folks waiting for it kept asking where the report was, someone would send it, they'd wait for a couple weeks, not get it, repeat... I forget how they figured out the problem.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3642 on: June 27, 2020, 12:06:55 AM »
Huh, nannyware! Here in Australia the Breast Cancer Survivors Network keeps getting their website deleted entirely, while the vilest of pornography and hate speech seems to continue untroubled by over-regulation. Who knows?
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3643 on: June 27, 2020, 12:12:03 PM »
Also, JoB... friend... pal... buddy... chum chum... darling (n-no homo)...
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Sure, just hit "reply" to that post and keep your eyes peeled! >:D

Heh... probably the same or a similar plant with toes instead of tails was responsible for an entire report going missing - government email nanny kept deleting the email and attachment with no trace, so the folks waiting for it kept asking where the report was, someone would send it, they'd wait for a couple weeks, not get it, repeat... I forget how they figured out the problem.
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Then came the day when an update brought an (unannounced) new feature, namely, that the software would suddenly match+block swear words that were only part of longer words.
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Re: Latest Page Discussions/Comic Update Chitchat
« Reply #3644 on: June 27, 2020, 01:42:45 PM »
JoB, Ngl I was really confused for a bit and was about o give up, but then I realized you were talking about “quoting” your post.

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