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Title: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on October 16, 2015, 09:15:38 AM
Suilad a nathlam, mellonegen!
 (Hello and welcome, friends!)

I saw that there were a couple of other people here who were learning Sindarin, So I thought this would be a good idea! This is a place to share your progress on learning Sindarin, The language of the Grey-Elves in Middle Earth.

Here are some great learning references:

http://sindarinlessons.weebly.com (http://sindarinlessons.weebly.com) - This one is most best, they have some very well made lessons on everything from pronunciation to vocabulary building to advanced grammar and sentence structure. They also have a dictionary containing all known/speculated Sindarin words along with the meanings of some names.

http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/phrases.html (http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/phrases.html) - Some useful phrases and words, a good way to start.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on November 25, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
I found this the other day and I might try it because it has a page on writing too, I can currently only speak it.
http://your-sindarin-textbook.realelvish.net (http://your-sindarin-textbook.realelvish.net)
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Noodles on December 02, 2015, 03:12:32 AM
I found this the other day and I might try it because it has a page on writing too, I can currently only speak it.
yo if you want help with writing I can do that, I just don't have useful vocab/grammar
Hit me up by pm, or I could post here.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 02, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
yo if you want help with writing I can do that, I just don't have useful vocab/grammar
Hit me up by pm, or I could post here.
ok, that would be awesome! I think it would better if you could post here. (that is sorta what this is for after all) It seems like we started learning at opposite ends of the spectrum; I was focusing more on vocab (Still don't really have grammar & sentence structure down though)  :))
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Noodles on December 03, 2015, 02:15:37 AM
I'll whip something up asap.
Might be a few days, but best-case I can make it fancy and double it up with art-class work.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 03, 2015, 11:02:03 AM
I'll whip something up asap.
Might be a few days, but best-case I can make it fancy and double it up with art-class work.
Great! I can make a quick thing on vocab if you want?
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Noodles on December 12, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Mkay, it's a slideshow!
Some of it ended up kinda fuzzy; ask me if you need transcripts. Also my handwriting's really bad.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1k5At598AaWu71SP2zNH2aVlZS6K-S6HLDikp7NWrZl0/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 12, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
Wow, Thank you so much! That looks awesome!  :)) I'll probably try to fit in some practice later.
(http://i.imgur.com/aDfF54u.png?1)
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 17, 2015, 01:47:12 AM
Okay so I was practicing some Tengwar in class and a friend was looking over my shoulder and wondered what it was. I told them it was elvish and they were like "oh cool can I learn" and now I have kinda gathered a learning group of about 5 people and we are starting a linguistics club in our school all thanks to your tutorial an the butterfly effect...  ;D
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Noodles on December 18, 2015, 02:17:21 AM
Okay so I was practicing some Tengwar in class and a friend was looking over my shoulder and wondered what it was. I told them it was elvish and they were like "oh cool can I learn" and now I have kinda gathered a learning group of about 5 people and we are starting a linguistics club in our school all thanks to your tutorial an the butterfly effect...  ;D
oh gosh congratulations! I showed some tengwar practice to people in art and they were like "that's neat" and kept doing their thing :P
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: mithrysc on December 18, 2015, 08:17:18 AM
oh gosh congratulations! I showed some tengwar practice to people in art and they were like "that's neat" and kept doing their thing :P

At one point I was making notes in my sketchbook in tengwar (but just transcribing English...) because I didn't really like other people looking at my comments. Some of my friends recognized it as elvish but that's about it.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 18, 2015, 12:17:07 PM
At one point I was making notes in my sketchbook in tengwar (but just transcribing English...) because I didn't really like other people looking at my comments. Some of my friends recognized it as elvish but that's about it.

Thats a good idea... (except that anyone who would want to copy my notes can also read tengwar...) We were thinking about passing notes in class and then the teacher would find it and he like "what the heck does this say?"
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Sunflower on December 18, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Okay so I was practicing some Tengwar in class and a friend was looking over my shoulder and wondered what it was. I told them it was elvish and they were like "oh cool can I learn" and now I have kinda gathered a learning group of about 5 people and we are starting a linguistics club in our school all thanks to your tutorial an the butterfly effect...  ;D

And then you and your Team of Awesome can go on to document mission-critical computer stuff in Tengwar.  For the lulz.

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040319
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 18, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
And then you and your Team of Awesome can go on to document mission-critical computer stuff in Tengwar.  For the lulz.

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040319

Thats a surprisingly relevant comic because we started when we were talking in computer club...   ::)
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Noodles on December 19, 2015, 12:56:33 AM
I once heard a story of someone who wrote a term paper in Tengwar. Unfortunately, the prof got a ta to transliterate it back and it wasn't a very good essay. :P
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on December 19, 2015, 01:32:37 AM
I once heard a story of someone who wrote a term paper in Tengwar. Unfortunately, the prof got a ta to transliterate it back and it wasn't a very good essay. :P

I'm amazed the prof went to the work of translating it and didn't just give the student a zero...
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Juniper on May 23, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
Ohhhh this is exciting ! I actually have a book on the various languages Tolkein invented (The Languages of Tolkein's Middle Earth, it's a short book that's more of a reference for the writing systems and vocab than an actually learning guide but I still picked up some neat stuff in it and recommend it. I'l really glad I found this thread though because it does have a few more neat resources in it :3
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Auxivele on June 04, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
Ermahgerd, this is the thread I needed that I never knew I needed.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Juniper on October 09, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
Actually Luth, and anyone else learning Sindarin, I'm curious to know what drew you to wanting to learn Sindarin over the other fictional languages from the Tolkein universe ? I'd actually never given Sindarin any thought weirdly enough and have only paid attention to or given any effort into learning Quenya instead of Sindarin, as do most people I've known who have tried to learn a fictional Tolkein language pick Quenya over Sindarin or any of the others, so I guess I'm just curious about what draws people to pick what language. I'd also given a bit of time into reading up on Westron which is the common tongue / lingua franca of middle earth at least during the third age when Lord of the Rings takes place.
Title: Re: Sindarin Learning Thread
Post by: Athena on November 01, 2016, 12:49:56 PM
Actually Luth, and anyone else learning Sindarin, I'm curious to know what drew you to wanting to learn Sindarin over the other fictional languages from the Tolkein universe ? I'd actually never given Sindarin any thought weirdly enough and have only paid attention to or given any effort into learning Quenya instead of Sindarin, as do most people I've known who have tried to learn a fictional Tolkein language pick Quenya over Sindarin or any of the others, so I guess I'm just curious about what draws people to pick what language. I'd also given a bit of time into reading up on Westron which is the common tongue / lingua franca of middle earth at least during the third age when Lord of the Rings takes place.

If I recall correctly, I started becoming interested in learning elvish around when I was re-reading the Silmarilion. I most prominently remember the story/stories about Thingol, king of the Sindar in Menegroth. Menegroth was pretty cool (a city of elves built in thousands of caves, how could it not be) so I guess that just stuck with me. I'm not sure why, but I always thought the Sindar were cool. *shrug*