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Title: The Science Thread
Post by: Noodles on April 21, 2015, 11:33:42 PM
I'm Matt, I also want/am studying to become an Aerospace engineer. If you'd like to discuss feel free to shoot me a PM, I don't bite and I do enjoy good talks.
Hi. I'm some chick from Michigan that wants to become an aerospace engineer and/or a pilot. I like reading and writing a bunch, and I play bass (poorly). Aside from science and aviation, music is easily my biggest passion.
whaaaaaaat there are so many other people who also want to be rocket scientists/pilots/whatever here (SpaceX just opened a Seattle office, and I was ridiculously excited) (also have you *seen* the postage stamp they're trying to land their first-stage on??? I am *so impressed* that they've managed to hit it both times!)
this is insane
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 21, 2015, 11:58:53 PM
Oh my gosh, really? I think this might literally be the largest number of aerospace enthusiasts I've seen in one forum.

Like I was telling Matt in PM, I'm more into the aeronautical side of it, if you want to know the truth. (Specifically jet engines and stuff. Fluid dynamics is so cool~)

That being said, rockets are still awesome. Not sure if this is the same thing, but I was watching some of that Grasshopper stuff. It was really cool, I was amazed how stable they got it to be. If that's not it, though, you should totally find a link or something! I'd be interested in checking it out.
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: Noodles on April 22, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Like the Grasshopper, but on a ship that is trying VERY HARD to stay in one place. Specifically, an autonomous spaceport drone ship. (that name is just too awesome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_spaceport_drone_ship
Also, see the yellow line? That's how big the landing legs are. The white line is the space it has to land in to not tip the thing over. O.O *continues fangirling*
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 22, 2015, 12:27:37 AM
Yeesh, no kidding? That's seriously impressive. (Also, that really is a cool name. xD) That reminds me a bit of that one NASA rover with the crazy advanced landing system. From what I hear, a lot of them were even surprised how well it worked.

Back to the rocket, thou, I'm actually not too familiar with SpaceX. I honestly just know them for the Grasshopper. I'm gonna have to do some Google surfing later.
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: Noodles on April 22, 2015, 12:32:45 AM
Gooooo, surf! their website is really neat! Are you talking about Curiosity's sky crane? (because that is totally awesome and stuffs)
The barge-landings haven't succeeded yet, they keep falling over when they hit the barge and exploding (the barge is still OK though). :(
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 22, 2015, 12:46:22 AM
Oh! Yeah, that sounds right. Sorry, it's been a while, I'm just recalling what I remember from a Neil deGrasse Tyson thing.

Ah, alright. That is totally understandable, that seems like a huge challenge. Frankly, I'm impressed it hit the barge at all. Do you know off the top of your head how SpaceX manages to fund it? It can't be cheap.

And, uhm, should we take this somewhere else? I think we might be fangirling up the intro thread a little bit.
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: Noodles on April 22, 2015, 10:14:37 AM
Do you know off the top of your head how SpaceX manages to fund it? It can't be cheap.
The CEO, Elon Musk, is like a multi-billionnaire (he made a lot of money as head of PayPal) and he decided that space was a cool thing to throw money at. Also really cool electric cars (he started Tesla Motors)
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: Richard Weir on April 23, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
The CEO, Elon Musk, is like a multi-billionnaire (he made a lot of money as head of PayPal) and he decided that space was a cool thing to throw money at. Also really cool electric cars (he started Tesla Motors)

Plus, of course, SpaceX charge clients a few millions to use those rockets to launch satellites. They make quite a fair sum from launching Dragon modules that supply the ISS. The landing attempts are just side-ventures for fee-paying launches.

Yep, I'm another space and tech enthusiast. So, how many others here play Kerbal Space Program (http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/)? It's THE game fo rthose who are interested in such thing.
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 23, 2015, 08:57:45 PM
Plus, of course, SpaceX charge clients a few millions to use those rockets to launch satellites. They make quite a fair sum from launching Dragon modules that supply the ISS. The landing attempts are just side-ventures for fee-paying launches.

Yep, I'm another space and tech enthusiast. So, how many others here play Kerbal Space Program (http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/)? It's THE game fo rthose who are interested in such thing.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense, too. Is one of the eventual goals space tourism or something, too? I imagine it'd just have to be for extremely wealthy people at first, but they could probably still make some really good money.

I haven't played it yet, but I've heard no end of great things. I'm probably going to give it a try once I get some money.

(Seriously though, should we start a thread for this or something?)
Title: Re: Aerospace
Post by: Noodles on April 24, 2015, 12:52:16 AM
Okay, that makes a lot of sense, too. Is one of the eventual goals space tourism or something, too?
Sort of. Their final goal is to put people on Mars, and they are working on a crew-transport that could be used for tourism.
Title: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Richard Weir on April 24, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
A discussion in The Introduction thread revealed that a surprising number of us are interested in science, space exploration, aeronautics and rocketry, and somebody suggested this needs a proper thread.

So: here it is. This thread is for discussing Real-World science, space and rocketry. Try to avoid descending too deeply into Sci-Fi and games, but it should be fine to compare RL with Sci-Fi and games, and vice versa.

It would also be a very good idea to avoid discussing the very many conspiracy theories that are attracted to the subject: these tend to be extremely divisive, and I've seen communities become severely disrupted by such topics and good forum members banned for taking sides on the truth of such theories.

Specific examples of discussion suitable for this thread would be:

NASA's current projects, past glories and ambitions.
The ISS.
SpaceX -- commercialization of space and reusable rockets.
Colonizing Mars?
Skylon, Sabre and Reaction Engines Ltd.
High-performance aircraft.
Model rockets.
The space shuttle.
Rocket technology.

etc.

EDIT: Changed title to "Aerospace", because they are very closely associated. And Skylon is VERY much aerospace, as was the shuttle.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Noodles on April 24, 2015, 10:16:01 PM
Yay! It is good that we have this thread instead of clogging the Intros thread more. ;)
Also, does anyone else find it surprising that there are this many of us in the fandom for a webcomic that is not particularly engineeringy/space-related? I guess futurey-webcomics just attract nerds?
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on April 24, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
So who likes the idea of "space elevators" / orbital towers now that high-tensile materials are becoming available?
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=720
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: P__ on April 24, 2015, 10:24:43 PM
spaaaaaace º.º
(sorry, nothing more constructive for now)

edit: there's a thing Curry drew, that seems appropriate:
(http://i.imgur.com/U0MEDPf.png)
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Noodles on April 24, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
So who likes the idea of "space elevators" / orbital towers now that high-tensile materials are becoming available?
*raises hand*
ME! ME!
We had to do a project a little while ago where we designed moon bases, and mine had a space elevator to get stuff to orbit, the top weight of which had docking-ports for visiting spacecraft. It was *awesome*.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on April 24, 2015, 11:16:33 PM
I'm planning on getting model rockets soonish. I have been itching to launch some for months, and once I can get to my walls hang my timeline of rockets up.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Noodles on April 24, 2015, 11:30:48 PM
I'm planning on getting model rockets soonish. I have been itching to launch some for months, and once I can get to my walls hang my timeline of rockets up.
Ooh, fun! If you want to do scratch-building, there's an open-source simulator called OpenRocket that will tell you whether it will break and it works pretty well. Or, you know, PM me or something I guess. *is attempting to be useful at things but is feeling awkward now*
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on April 24, 2015, 11:40:25 PM
Ooh, fun! If you want to do scratch-building, there's an open-source simulator called OpenRocket that will tell you whether it will break and it works pretty well. Or, you know, PM me or something I guess. *is attempting to be useful at things but is feeling awkward now*
That sounds cool. Does it work on android? I currently don't have a computer.
I will attempt to video the launches, when and if I can do them.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Noodles on April 24, 2015, 11:51:17 PM
That sounds cool. Does it work on android? I currently don't have a computer.
I will attempt to video the launches, when and if I can do them.
Um um um I don't know
Oh, wait, I think it does have an app, but idk if the app does all the things.
Oooh, yes, do! I will also try to get video at this rocketry festival that we are going to, at least of some of the *really* big things. ;D
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on April 24, 2015, 11:56:37 PM
Um um um I don't know
Oh, wait, I think it does have an app, but idk if the app does all the things.
Oooh, yes, do! I will also try to get video at this rocketry festival that we are going to, at least of some of the *really* big things. ;D
Cool. You know a few years back I went to space-camp. It was awesome! It was a mystery trip, and when we pulled up like 90% of the students were like 'eww', 9% were like 'meh, whatever', and I was screaming in uncontained joy.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Eich on April 25, 2015, 12:51:22 AM
I was really interested in space as a kid, but not so much anymore.
The idea of exploring new planets will always hold appeal for me, though.  I never watched Star Trek, but the "Final Frontier" seems like a very fitting and romantic name, and always makes me look forward to seeing where we go next. 

Also, my first reaction was to post this:
Spoiler: show
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 25, 2015, 01:57:39 AM
Thank you for making this, I was starting to feel kinda bad.

I know it's not actually space-related, but I've been wanting to try to make a small, simple turbojet or pulsejet as soon as I get some income. I expect it to end poorly, but it'd be so cool even just to make something that runs for a few seconds.

So who likes the idea of "space elevators" / orbital towers now that high-tensile materials are becoming available?
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=720

I'm adding that to the list of things I would love to see in my lifetime. I'm totally going to look into it more once I get access to a computer (on a 3DS now ugh).

Cool. You know a few years back I went to space-camp. It was awesome! It was a mystery trip, and when we pulled up like 90% of the students were like 'eww', 9% were like 'meh, whatever', and I was screaming in uncontained joy.

You are soooo lucky. I've had some neat school trips to museums and stuff, but nothing that cool. I've never actually had much hands-on time with any in-depth space or rocketry related stuff. What kind of things did you do?

Also, does anyone else find it surprising that there are this many of us in the fandom for a webcomic that is not particularly engineeringy/space-related? I guess futurey-webcomics just attract nerds?

I was thinking the same thing. It does seem kinda weird and random, but I'm not complaining.

(Also yes everyone please take video if you can, that would be so cool!)
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Ruby on April 25, 2015, 03:49:24 AM
A thread all about SPACE? Yes, please!

I am planning to study physics (with a concentration in astronomy) and computer science in college, and hopefully someday maybe work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. A girl can dream, right?

On a different topic, did any of you guys see the total solar eclipse earlier this year? Anyone have plans to go see the ones in 2016 or 2017?
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Oh Deer on April 25, 2015, 08:47:10 AM
Ooo! My science class is learning about space exploration right now. It's really fun!
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on April 25, 2015, 10:47:05 AM
Actually it was with a college preparedness group. But we did a little of everything, made rockets, did scavenger hunts, the MATs.(multy axis trainers), and other things.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sadoka on April 25, 2015, 04:08:37 PM
I'm so glad this thread exists!  I'm an engineering student, so aerospace really interests me.  I look forward to learning about any and all rocket-related things you guys have experienced!

As for interesting things that I've come across, I found and enjoyed and this interview with a Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird pilot:
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/7/5447310/sr-71-blackbird-pilot-interview

The blackbird is the fastest manned jet on record, and this gives some insight into the workings of the jet, and the lives of the pilots themselves.  Cool stuff!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: BreezeLouise on April 25, 2015, 06:03:22 PM
I'm so glad this thread exists!  I'm an engineering student, so aerospace really interests me.  I look forward to learning about any and all rocket-related things you guys have experienced!

As for interesting things that I've come across, I found and enjoyed and this interview with a Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird pilot:
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/7/5447310/sr-71-blackbird-pilot-interview

The blackbird is the fastest manned jet on record, and this gives some insight into the workings of the jet, and the lives of the pilots themselves.  Cool stuff!

This is awesome, thank you~

The P&W J58 has always been my favorite engine. It was far from perfect, but for the time, it was a marvel. The shock cone movement and the air bypass was just genius. Sometimes I'll just go back and look at diagrams for kicks, it's just such a cool design. I'm also really interested in being a pilot myself, so the look into the pilot's experience with it is really something else.
Edit: I love that at one point the interviewer literally just goes "Oh my god." That's totally something I would do. Along with plenty of excited bouncing.

On a slightly related note, here's a video that I always seem to come back to.
/>One of the guys from Top Gear got to take a ride in a U-2 trainer at 70,000 ft. It doesn't explain too much, but you can learn a lot just by paying attention. And it's honestly just a really cool video, I think.

I am planning to study physics (with a concentration in astronomy) and computer science in college, and hopefully someday maybe work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. A girl can dream, right?

On a different topic, did any of you guys see the total solar eclipse earlier this year? Anyone have plans to go see the ones in 2016 or 2017?

That's great! Gosh, that would really be something. It's good that you know exactly what you want, too, it'll make everything so much easier.

Nooo, I didn't have the privilege, unfortunately. Usually, the best I can do is a NASA stream, if one's available. I'm the only person in my family that's interested, so unless I can see it from where I live, I have to miss it.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: Tap10lan on April 26, 2015, 12:54:24 PM
I was really interested in space as a kid, but not so much anymore.
The idea of exploring new planets will always hold appeal for me, though.  I never watched Star Trek, but the "Final Frontier" seems like a very fitting and romantic name, and always makes me look forward to seeing where we go next. 

Also, my first reaction was to post this:
Spoiler: show


Wheee, especially the last 10 seconds!

Made me think of this:

Spoiler: show


Even though it isn't relevant? ;)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sadoka on May 22, 2015, 07:42:01 PM
Well, it certainly has been a while since someone posted here!
I just though I'd share this video from SpaceX's launch-abort test for their Dragon crew capsule.  They did the test about a month ago, but this is from the rocket's point of view!

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It's a pretty short video, but the view above the launchpad is pretty spectacular!
(Here is the view from the ground as well:
)

Also, breezelouise, thanks for sharing that video of the view from a U2 trainer.  I really wish I had a pilots license sometimes, and had the proper clearance to fly one of those things!  (Sorry for the very late reply, college finals and such got in the way.) 

On a side note, does anyone here have a pilot's license, and perhaps have pictures from when flying?  The closest I get to flying is working near an airport.


Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Richard Weir on May 22, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Thanks for the capsule-eye-view link, that was interesting. :)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: BreezeLouise on May 23, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
Well, it certainly has been a while since someone posted here!
I just though I'd share this video from SpaceX's launch-abort test for their Dragon crew capsule.  They did the test about a month ago, but this is from the rocket's point of view!

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It's a pretty short video, but the view above the launchpad is pretty spectacular!
(Here is the view from the ground as well:
)

Also, breezelouise, thanks for sharing that video of the view from a U2 trainer.  I really wish I had a pilots license sometimes, and had the proper clearance to fly one of those things!  (Sorry for the very late reply, college finals and such got in the way.) 

On a side note, does anyone here have a pilot's license, and perhaps have pictures from when flying?  The closest I get to flying is working near an airport.

That is really, really cool, thank you! I especially like the view from the rocket. Aside from the obvious reasons, it's neat to see a closeup of the chute system in action. That's something I've never actually seen before. I have to say, though, I'd hate to be in that thing. It was spinning way too hard for me. xD

Glad you liked it! I don't have a license, sadly, but as soon as I get the money, I really want to take a second helicopter flight lesson. I'd be in a really bad position to take pictures, but the instructor said that it would be alright if someone wanted to ride in the back. Maybe I could ask them to take pictures or video (as long as you don't mind overwhelming engine noise, it's hard to even hear the instructor through the headset). My mom did take a few videos from the ground last time, but the only one that actually involves flying is about four seconds long and features the skids leaving the ground for half a second. It's not the most riveting thing. (As for the finals, stuff, don't worry about it! Important life stuff happens sometimes)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sadoka on May 24, 2015, 12:51:57 PM
I don't have a license, sadly, but as soon as I get the money, I really want to take a second helicopter flight lesson. I'd be in a really bad position to take pictures, but the instructor said that it would be alright if someone wanted to ride in the back. Maybe I could ask them to take pictures or video (as long as you don't mind overwhelming engine noise, it's hard to even hear the instructor through the headset). My mom did take a few videos from the ground last time, but the only one that actually involves flying is about four seconds long and features the skids leaving the ground for half a second. It's not the most riveting thing. (As for the finals, stuff, don't worry about it! Important life stuff happens sometimes)

Thanks for not being mad!  Balance is a difficult thing.
As to your reply, how expensive was your first lesson?  I did a quick search, and it looks like helicopter license costs are up there in the 10-15,000 dollar range, and each lesson costs maybe 200/hour?  If I was in the military, there would probably be a much easier way to get a license, but I'm just a civilian paying his way through college.  Are you just trying to get a license for fun, or have plans for a job?  Probably good for both!

Also, how was your first lesson?  If it's comparable at all to learning how to drive a car, it must have been a more than a little terrifying.  Flying in a helicopter with 360 degrees of freedom must be a lot harder than driving!  And if you do ever get that second lesson in, pictures/video from the helicopter would be very cool to see, engine noise or no.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: BreezeLouise on May 25, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Thanks for not being mad!  Balance is a difficult thing.
As to your reply, how expensive was your first lesson?  I did a quick search, and it looks like helicopter license costs are up there in the 10-15,000 dollar range, and each lesson costs maybe 200/hour?  If I was in the military, there would probably be a much easier way to get a license, but I'm just a civilian paying his way through college.  Are you just trying to get a license for fun, or have plans for a job?  Probably good for both!

Also, how was your first lesson?  If it's comparable at all to learning how to drive a car, it must have been a more than a little terrifying.  Flying in a helicopter with 360 degrees of freedom must be a lot harder than driving!  And if you do ever get that second lesson in, pictures/video from the helicopter would be very cool to see, engine noise or no.

I couldn't be mad about that! I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who would, especially around here~
Exactly right, it cost me $200 for an hour. I'm sure it would depend on where you go, but that's probably a good baseline. As for me, I did think about the military too. I'm still considering it after college, but that's too far away for me to make a solid decision (and hopefully I'll have learned already by then). I'm getting a license mainly for fun, but it has the benefit of giving me a great backup job. Depending on how things go, it could possibly even be the thing that gets me through college!

It was so much fun. It was scary, but I'd already done so much reading in preparation that I knew enough to feel safe. It's important to remember that, at any moment, the instructor can take the controls and keeps things going smoothly. What it was was 15 minutes on the ground where the instructor shows you around the cockpit, what everything is for, what you're going to need to pay attention to, the basics on how to fly, stuff like that. Then s/he'll take you up to a good altitude and hand the controls over to you. My instructor had me follow a road for a little while to get used to straight and level flying, then he had me do a few turns to follow different roads. Aside from directions, his only input during that time was to gently point out if I was too fast or too low. He planned out the route so we arrived back at the airfield right as my time was up, then he landed it. We went into his office in the hangar, he told me a few stories, then he gave me a grade (I was average in every respect, which was kind of a bummer, but I'm just gonna aim to do better next time~). After that, we discussed a follow-up lesson for a few minutes and then I went home. He was excellent, I can't recommend finding the right instructor highly enough. Even if you have to pay a little extra, it will make learning a whole lot easier, and it'll make everything that much more enjoyable.

I'll be sure to look into some picture or video, then! I might have a little trouble finding someone to go up with me, both my parents are too afraid. My best friend's dad said he would, though, so hopefully we can coordinate that. I'm also not sure if that's only available for the first lesson, I dunno. The instructor was very nice and reasonable, though, I'm sure we could figure something out.

If you're interested in fixed-wing, I'm not as sure about the details, but my grandpa did get a free lesson as a gift. It's quite a bit easier than rotary, so they even offered to let him land the plane on his first flight. I imagine it'd probably be cheaper, too, but I'm not actually sure about that. Would that be something you'd be interested in trying, though? Even if you don't want to go for a license, a lot of people take the first lesson just for the experience.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on May 26, 2015, 02:52:16 PM
ooooh wow this stuff is all really cool. Thanks for those pad-abort videos, Sadoka! I will have some pictures from the model-rocketry festival I was at over the weekend in a couple of days, just gotta get them off the camera. Don't have any video, sorry...
(plus all the videos of model rockets I've seen consist of the rocket leaving the frame and then two minutes of the person trying to find the tiny speck that is the rocket in the sky)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sadoka on May 26, 2015, 09:31:55 PM
ooooh wow this stuff is all really cool. Thanks for those pad-abort videos, Sadoka! I will have some pictures from the model-rocketry festival I was at over the weekend in a couple of days, just gotta get them off the camera. Don't have any video, sorry...
(plus all the videos of model rockets I've seen consist of the rocket leaving the frame and then two minutes of the person trying to find the tiny speck that is the rocket in the sky)

You're welcome!  Space X is kind of awesome, so I've been keeping my eyes open for any video they release.  And yes please for the model rocket pictures!  I think I'll need to watch October Sky again just because of them; it's been so long since I saw that movie the first time.

If you're interested in fixed-wing, I'm not as sure about the details, but my grandpa did get a free lesson as a gift. It's quite a bit easier than rotary, so they even offered to let him land the plane on his first flight. I imagine it'd probably be cheaper, too, but I'm not actually sure about that. Would that be something you'd be interested in trying, though? Even if you don't want to go for a license, a lot of people take the first lesson just for the experience.
   

I think I'm more interested in fixed wing lessons over helicopter, actually. (Although both would be great to try!)
That's a good idea, saving up money and taking the first lesson just for the experience.  And, if I like it enough afterwards, why not go the whole way?  Probably not going to happen in the near future, but I do have the means!  There is already a skydiving program around my area, so I'm sure that other programs and lessons can't be that hard to find.  Speaking of which, ever tried skydiving?  Never tried it myself, it takes such a leap of faith!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on May 26, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
This weekend I entranced a pair of my friends with my itty-bitty remote control helicopter. I am almost good enough to zoom it around rooms. My RC is an Estes control Mad Cat. (http://www.rcplanet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/EST4608-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on June 10, 2015, 12:58:15 AM
(Double posting to bump)

So, if ya'll don't know I'm obsessed with RC flyers. And I have happened across something amazing at a yard sale; an Estes syncro quadcopter. This thing is so tiny. Like teeny tiny. I had to order a charge cable for it, and have just now gotten to fly it. It's really cool, and easier to zip around a room than my helicopter, and it has super bright LEDs and wow. I think I've called in love with my dream again.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on June 10, 2015, 01:13:56 AM
oh my goodness quadcopters yes! they're so freaking adorable! *envy*
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: urbicande on June 10, 2015, 10:36:43 AM
whaaaaaaat there are so many other people who also want to be rocket scientists/pilots/whatever here (SpaceX just opened a Seattle office, and I was ridiculously excited) (also have you *seen* the postage stamp they're trying to land their first-stage on??? I am *so impressed* that they've managed to hit it both times!)
this is insane

It's exciting to see that, actually. Back when I was a kid in the early days of the Space Age, we all wanted to be astronauts.  Nice to see there are people carrying on that tradition!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on June 13, 2015, 10:20:43 PM
It's exciting to see that, actually. Back when I was a kid in the early days of the Space Age, we all wanted to be astronauts.  Nice to see there are people carrying on that tradition!

me an astronaut? nah. I'm gonna be designing the stuff they fly. (and little things to run around my home)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on June 14, 2015, 11:18:28 AM
me an astronaut? nah. I'm gonna be designing the stuff they fly. (and little things to run around my home)
Yeah, me too.  Space is big and scary and *empty* and I'm a little wimp, but rocket science is an awesome combination of engineering and FIIIIIIIIRE.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on June 14, 2015, 11:43:51 PM
Yeah, me too.  Space is big and scary and *empty* and I'm a little wimp, but rocket science is an awesome combination of engineering and FIIIIIIIIRE.

Ohhh yeah, fire. And rockets and stars, and the grand Sky orb. (Man you guys are really pushing my 'wanna buy rocket kits' buttons. Hmmmm)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sadoka on June 22, 2015, 07:07:55 PM
Speaking of rocket kits, have you managed to develop any of your model-rocket festival pictures Noodly?  I'd still be quite interested in seeing a few!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on June 22, 2015, 07:11:41 PM
Speaking of rocket kits, have you managed to develop any of your model-rocket festival pictures Noodly?  I'd still be quite interested in seeing a few!
Oh woooow I totally forgot about that! Give me a few minutes to wrestle with Imgur!

Edit: I have battled the Imgur, and emerge victorious!
Here y'go.
Two rockets in flight:
(http://i.imgur.com/NK5gfzG.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/5jKOnLm.jpg?1)
(sorry they're fuzzy, there's a really tiny window to catch them before they're moving too fast to get)
One coming down under chute:
(http://i.imgur.com/NKvfCnh.jpg)
Here's some pictures of the pads:
The largest rockets being flown (where we could see the pad; there was also an away-cell for the really huge stuff that was like half a mile or a mile out)...
(http://i.imgur.com/2Lf7yyq.jpg)
...and the smallest (those are standard-sized sawhorses, sorry I didn't get any people in there for scale)
(http://i.imgur.com/vgiiznW.jpg?1)

And, just for giggles, here's a 5-minute MS Paint sketch of the lay of the land.
(http://i.imgur.com/kaN0vMR.png)
I'm sitting with some other people on a bench-thingy at the edge of the range. Most people who brought chairs were sitting in the other blob, because it's flatter over there.
I didn't get any photos from the mid-power pads, but they're between the other two in size. (Actually, all the pictures of rockets in the air are high-power, since they move more slowly [because they're bigger], are easier to find with the camera [because they're bigger], and are more impressive [you guessed it -- because they're bigger])
Um. Yeah.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Troposphère on June 29, 2015, 05:15:34 PM
Hi!

Noodly Appendage invited me to this thread. I'm not so much into space, but I love aircraft and aerodynamics. I'm finishing my studies in aeronautical engineering and my I'm always looking for efficiency. Sure, I like engines that make a lot of noise and flames, but the most beautiful things to me are the ones that do the most with the less fuel or that are the most optimized in general. That's why I agree that the U-2 is such a great plane! It's like a glider with a jet engine and everything is optimized for the mission.

Do you know about the Piaggio Avanti? It looks like it's designed just to look cool but it's actually very well done when you look at the data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW7HfEf_H4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW7HfEf_H4E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy2K3UrCyIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy2K3UrCyIs)

And also I don't know if I will really do it (it's said to be very hard) but my dream is to build a light aircraft like this one: http://tagazous.free.fr/affichage2.php?img=16277 (http://tagazous.free.fr/affichage2.php?img=16277). Anyone interested?
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on June 29, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
[stuff]
The Piaggio does look really neat! I like the canards/nose-wing-things. Also how "looking fast/cool/efficient" and "being fast/cool/efficient" are often pretty close together.

I don't have a whole lot of experience with planes, but the light-aircraft thing sounds really neat.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Troposphère on June 29, 2015, 05:36:46 PM
I like the canards/nose-wing-things. Also how "looking fast/cool/efficient" and "being fast/cool/efficient" are often pretty close together.

In my opinion the latter implies the former but the opposite is often wrong. The website (in French) (http://inter.action.free.fr/publications/canards/canards.htm) where I firs heard about the Piaggio was actually explaining why canard aircraft are a bad idea in general.

It works well on the Piaggio P-180 because it's not a true canard as the stability is done with a classical horizontal tail. The forward surfaces are here because they had to put the wing behind the cabin so they needed something to generate lift on the nose to compensate. But the combination main wing + "canard" really act like one classical wing.
Title: Re: The Space Thread
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on July 05, 2015, 08:43:33 AM
Thank you for making this, I was starting to feel kinda bad.

I know it's not actually space-related, but I've been wanting to try to make a small, simple turbojet or pulsejet as soon as I get some income. I expect it to end poorly, but it'd be so cool even just to make something that runs for a few ... >snip!<

If YouTube wasn't the source of your inspiration, there are how-to videos (and some cautionary failures) just by searching for 'jet go-kart'.  I browsed into it by way of looking at Stirling engines.   :)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Guardian G.I. on July 14, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
NASA's New Horizons probe is now headed away from Pluto and Charon after its closest approach today. Now, it'll start transmitting gigabytes of data to Earth - full transmission would take more than a year.

Spoiler: One of the latest photos of Pluto • show
(http://i.imgur.com/Rnj7kZj.jpg)

Spoiler: Footage by the Hubble Space Telescope vs. footage by New Horizons • show
(http://giant.gfycat.com/AmpleAbsoluteFlee.gif)


It took nine years for the probe to go that far.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: JoB on July 15, 2015, 06:51:07 PM
NASA's New Horizons probe is now headed away from Pluto and Charon after its closest approach today. Now, it'll start transmitting gigabytes of data to Earth - full transmission would take more than a year.
No comment on that big honkin' "Derpkitty wuz here" sign? ;D
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DancingRanger on July 15, 2015, 06:59:54 PM
No comment on that big honkin' "Derpkitty wuz here" sign? ;D

I didn't notice the heart! Omg!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: JoB on July 15, 2015, 07:07:51 PM
I didn't notice the heart! Omg!
Wikipedia is pretty darn wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki#Notes) again ... :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_%28Pluto%29
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on July 15, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
I didn't notice the heart! Omg!

Further interpretation by a celebrity physicist reveals new meanings and data!
Spoiler: show

Sadly, there appears also to be some Coronary Artery Disease:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pluto.png)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Sunflower on July 15, 2015, 09:22:10 PM
Further interpretation by a celebrity physicist reveals new meanings and data!

pppfffftthhhHAHAHAHA!!!  That's brilliant.  Of course it's XKCD.   ;D
I especially like the "full text of the Wikipedia article on pareidolia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars))."  Not to mention the Debate Hole. 

Thanks for sharing, DaveBro!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Troposphère on July 16, 2015, 02:28:27 AM
New pictures with more details!

3500 m high mountains

Spoiler: show

(http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/pics/nh-plutosurface.png)


And the moon Charon with 7-9 km deep canyons (whaaaat?)

Spoiler: show

(http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/pics/nh-charon.jpg)


They say these images are compressed so that they have been uploaded quickly to Earth and the non-compressed versions will be transmitted later. It amazes me how we can transmit data from a probe 4 billions kilometers away with probably very limited power. They are using a 70 meters wide antenna on Earth…
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on July 17, 2015, 07:08:40 PM
*LOUD SCREAMING*
Pluto!!!!
(also, yes, the xkcd is hilarious. As usual.)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on August 24, 2015, 01:28:53 PM
Quadcopters can hang it up:  Georgia RC Model Jets (http://georgiajets.org) feature tiny turbines!
Many cool photos and videos on the site.   ;D

Also, the club is hosting a fly-in September 24-27, 2015, south of Atlanta near Gay, Ga, 30218.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on October 02, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
Should I apologize for double posting?  See The Martian and let me know!   8)
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/the-martian-movie-review (http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/the-martian-movie-review)
Title: The Science Thread
Post by: meshebe on November 04, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
It seems that there may be a few other science nerds out there in the crowd, so I decided to start this thread!  (And, if you're not a science nerd, you can always become one!  All you have to do is love/enjoy science!)  We can share our favorite science things, science news, and just talk about science-y things in general! 

I'll get things rolling with my favorite science thing ever:
This image of a molecule...
(https://www.sciencemag.org/content/325/5944/1110/F1.large.jpg)

A) An image drawn by scientists of what the molecule should look like...
B) An image taken with scanning tunneling microscopy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_tunneling_microscope)
C and D) Images taken with atomic force microscopy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_force_microscopy)

We can actually see molecules!  I love it. 
PS there are tons of awesome images (https://www.google.com/search?q=scanning+electron+microscope&espv=2&biw=1345&bih=812&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIsuDdwMP3yAIVS0MmCh0Chgpr#tbm=isch&q=scanning+electron+microscope+atoms) taken with scanning electron microscopes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_electron_microscope) as well...
Title: Re: The Science Thread
Post by: Double H on November 04, 2015, 03:28:24 PM
Speaking of electron microscopes and science in general.


This is my favorite science focused youtube channel.
Title: Re: The Science Thread
Post by: urbicande on November 04, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
There are amazing and beautiful things on APOD (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
Title: Re: The Science Thread
Post by: meshebe on November 10, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
This may sound stupid, but I never realized you could actually own your own electron microscope.  Thanks for sharing that!  I will definitely check out that youtube channel when I have some time.  Also, Urbicande, thanks for sharing the APOD link too!  There was a gorgeous picture of nebula when I looked at it last. 

Here's another thing I love: cocolithophores (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccolithophore)

(http://www.co2.ulg.ac.be/peace/objects/218-01.JPG)

and Diatomes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatom) while I'm at it!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Diatom2.jpg)

It's amazing the see these tiny things that you'd otherwise never knew existed.  :D
Title: Re: The Science Thread
Post by: Double H on November 10, 2015, 04:56:35 PM
This may sound stupid, but I never realized you could actually own your own electron microscope.  ...
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trimester.png) (http://xkcd.com/699/)
You can just buy many interesting things.  ;)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Eriaror on June 17, 2016, 06:23:21 PM
Taking a shot with resurrecting this thread, with this:
NASA just made some retro style "Be a Mars Explorer!" posters (http://mars.nasa.gov/multimedia/resources/mars-posters-explorers-wanted/), and the simple fact that this is not some mundane cool art but something that has a high chance of becoming reality in my lifetime makes me grin ear-to-ear.

Also, the posters look rad. ;D

(http://marsmobile.jpl.nasa.gov/files/resources/posters/P08-We-Need-You-NASA-Recruitment-Poster-600x.jpg)
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Juniper on June 17, 2016, 06:31:17 PM
I didn't notice this thread before. Might this be the place to post if I have a dream of obtaining my piloting license someday ? I don't think I want to become a professional pilot or anything, I just want to be able to fly air crafts for my own enjoyment.   
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Tr on June 17, 2016, 11:30:51 PM
Taking a shot with resurrecting this thread, with this:
NASA just made some retro style "Be a Mars Explorer!" posters (http://mars.nasa.gov/multimedia/resources/mars-posters-explorers-wanted/), and the simple fact that this is not some mundane cool art but something that has a high chance of becoming reality in my lifetime makes me grin ear-to-ear.
I love all of these. Everything about this (including that it might become reality!) is so, so awesome.
I didn't notice this thread before. Might this be the place to post if I have a dream of obtaining my piloting license someday ? I don't think I want to become a professional pilot or anything, I just want to be able to fly air crafts for my own enjoyment.   
Awesome! I wish you luck!
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Noodles on June 18, 2016, 04:48:05 PM
I love all of these. Everything about this (including that it might become reality!) is so, so awesome.
A few weeks ago I remembered that I'm hoping to graduate with an aero-astro engineering degree in 2020, and SpaceX claims that they will be going to Mars 2025. I love living in the future.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: Tr on June 18, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
A few weeks ago I remembered that I'm hoping to graduate with an aero-astro engineering degree in 2020, and SpaceX claims that they will be going to Mars 2025. I love living in the future.
That's so cool! The future is an awesome place.
Title: Re: The AeroSpace Thread
Post by: JoB on June 19, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
NASA just made some retro style "Be a Mars Explorer!" posters (http://mars.nasa.gov/multimedia/resources/mars-posters-explorers-wanted/)
(http://marsmobile.jpl.nasa.gov/files/resources/posters/P08-We-Need-You-NASA-Recruitment-Poster-600x.jpg)
In case you're speaking of needing navigators, Mars is that thing behind you. You seem to have landed on one of its moons instead.