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Title: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 10, 2015, 11:28:50 PM
:sweden: hejsan alla! solovei och jag har pratat lite om en idé att jag hade nyligen. på websidan italki (http://italki.com) kan man ofta anträffa människor och samtala på skype eller sånt för att öva och förbättra vokabulären, uttalet, och så vidare, på ett språk. men på såna gruppsamtala brukar man göra nånting tillsammans t.ex. att läsa en text eller att titta på TV-avsnitt, och då samtala om det. jag tyckte att om någon här som lär sig svenska nu vill hänga med solovei och mig och pröva det, det skulle vara kul!

:uk: hey everyone! solovei and i have talked a little about an idea that i recently had. on the website italki, you can often meet people and chat on skype or something like that to practice and improve your vocabulary, prounciation, and so on, in a language. but often what you do in these group conversations is to do something, like read something or watch a tv episode, and then get together and talk about it. i thought it might be cool, if anyone here learning swedish is interested, to try something like that out with solovei and me!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kjeks on January 11, 2015, 06:57:09 AM
hmmm I looked at this italki thingie. It looks interesting, though I won't be able to take a closer look at it until 5th of february.

If only Lars had a mic :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 11, 2015, 01:23:44 PM
hmmm I looked at this italki thingie. It looks interesting, though I won't be able to take a closer look at it until 5th of february.

If only Lars had a mic :D

ah, yes! the infamously reclusive lars.

and i wasn't necessarily thinking about using italki, as that's more of a place to meet people who are doing it, whereas group conversations mostly happen on skype. we already have a group of people learning swedish here, so the idea was more from my experience with italki groups rather than suggesting we use it!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: asadderandawiserman on January 11, 2015, 04:40:57 PM
That sounds like a really good idea to me! So it would basically be a like a book group, but all in Swedish? I should point out though that I've literally been learning for less than a week at this point, so I may have to take a backseat role at first, and just listen to what's going on.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on January 11, 2015, 07:06:03 PM
Depending on time available, time zones, etc, I might be of help. My Swedish has no particular dialect. I prefer to use Skype.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kjeks on January 12, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
Depending on time available, time zones, etc, I might be of help. My Swedish has no particular dialect. I prefer to use Skype.

ohhhh yessssshhhhh :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Varjohaltia on January 19, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
While my passive Swedish is decent (I read and understood the introductory post of this thread), I'm completely useless in offering more than monosyllabic active phrases. That being said, if I'm available during whatever timeslot people end up holding this, I'm certainly interested in listening in at the very least and getting more exposure.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 19, 2015, 02:20:53 PM
While my passive Swedish is decent (I read and understood the introductory post of this thread), I'm completely useless in offering more than monosyllabic active phrases. That being said, if I'm available during whatever timeslot people end up holding this, I'm certainly interested in listening in at the very least and getting more exposure.

The more the merrier! :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Auleliel on January 22, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
I would love to join something like this... after I've learned to say something more interesting than "Jag dricker vatten" or "Vegetarianen äter inte kött."
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 22, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
I would love to join something like this... after I've learned to say something more interesting than "Jag dricker vatten" or "Vegetarianen äter inte kött."
Ohh, are you doing it on Duolingo? Those sentences sound familiar~ XD

We've gotten a fair amount of interest for this already but nobody's yet to respond with what dates/times they're available... So, people who have replied to this thread! Please post here or PM Ruth or myself with the days and times you're free :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 22, 2015, 09:59:17 PM
i can go ahead and start to let you guys know what my schedule looks like. i have classes three days a week: tuesday, wednesday, friday. weekends generally aren't optimal times because that's when i'm working, so monday and thursday are best, but i can also set aside pretty much any evening after 8pm EST, though i suspect that might be tough with folks in europe.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 22, 2015, 10:02:29 PM
For my part, I'm in MST (gmt-8)...  Since I have the place to myself during the day, that would work best for me. Oh, and weekends don't work for me either but during the week should be fine.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on January 23, 2015, 05:06:43 AM
I'm usually online about 20-01 CET weekdays, and more on weekends. As I'm playing online games as well, it would be convenient to have a fixed time slot in order to faciliate planning of other online activities.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Auleliel on January 23, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
Ohh, are you doing it on Duolingo? Those sentences sound familiar~ XD

We've gotten a fair amount of interest for this already but nobody's yet to respond with what dates/times they're available... So, people who have replied to this thread! Please post here or PM Ruth or myself with the days and times you're free :)

Yep. I didn't know about Duolingo before joining this forum, but it's fun so far. :)

I imagine it will be pretty impossible to arrange a time compatible with my schedule, as I live in Japan and have a variable work schedule. Maybe once this whole thing gets underway (and after I have more vocab/grammar to work with) I'll be able to join in sporadically.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on January 24, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
:sweden: Det låter jättetrevligt.  Om jag är ledigt jag kan försöker att vara med, men faktiskt är min problem at skriva på svenska. Det är varför jag ska ta det här meddelande på svenska, så att jag har möjligheten att ova lite.  Ofta när jag skriva någonting på svenska jag ge det till en svensktalande vän så att dom kan rätta mig, men tyvärr finns ingen nordiskt kompis med mig just nu (jag är på besök hus mina föräldrar, och dom can bara engelska och franska) så kanske allt att jag skriva är lite konstigt. Ursäkta mig.

En problem jag har är att många svenskar vill inte rättar mina svenska.  Jag tror att dom känna det är lite pinsamt att göra det, men för min del, jag undrar hur jag ska lära mig själv bättre svenska utan detta stöd.  Iaf är det mycket mer lätt för alla att ser hur mycket jag göra fel när jag skriva.  Jag föredra att prata pga det är inte lika ofta att man märker att jag ha gjorde fel, och även om man höra någonting fel det är det bara vind i luften.

Jag bör i Stockholm, men jag är ofta ganska upptagen på vardagar, även på kvällstid (jag har tränning oftast på måndag och önsdag, men det kan också vara på fredag) .  Jag undrar om det funkar bättre på helgdagar (eller veckoslut put Finlandssvenska) speciellt om det är folk som vill deltar men bo utanför europa.

Edit - Åh, men nu ser jag att det funkar inte för Ruth, glömma denna helgdagar idé.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 24, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
:sweden: Det låter jättetrevligt.  Om jag är ledigt jag kan försöker att vara med, men faktiskt är min problem at skriva på svenska. Det är varför jag ska ta det här meddelande på svenska, så att jag har möjligheten att ova lite.  Ofta när jag skriva någonting på svenska jag ge det till en svensktalande vän så att dom kan rätta mig, men tyvärr finns ingen nordiskt kompis med mig just nu (jag är på besök hus mina föräldrar, och dom can bara engelska och franska) så kanske allt att jag skriva är lite konstigt. Ursäkta mig.

En problem jag har är att många svenskar vill inte rättar mina svenska.  Jag tror att dom känna det är lite pinsamt att göra det, men för min del, jag undrar hur jag ska lära mig själv bättre svenska utan detta stöd.  Iaf är det mycket mer lätt för alla att ser hur mycket jag göra fel när jag skriva.  Jag föredra att prata pga det är inte lika ofta att man märker att jag ha gjorde fel, och även om man höra någonting fel det är det bara vind i luften.

Jag bör i Stockholm, men jag är ofta ganska upptagen på vardagar, även på kvällstid (jag har tränning oftast på måndag och önsdag, men det kan också vara på fredag) .  Jag undrar om det funkar bättre på helgdagar (eller veckoslut put Finlandssvenska) speciellt om det är folk som vill deltar men bo utanför europa.

Edit - Åh, men nu ser jag att det funkar inte för Ruth, glömma denna helgdagar idé.
(trying my hand at this... please forgive glaring errors in sentence structure...)

:sweden: Jag har det mottsatta problem... Jag skriver ganska bra, och har chattade med Ruth och Lars flera gånger... men jag talade aldrig med någon än... lite rädd för att göra det, egentilgen...
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on January 24, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
:sweden:
Kanske om alla deltagare har lite fikabröd med samtidigt, sen ska det inte känna så läskigt.  Det är faktiskt nästan fettisdagen. Jag älskar semlor (recept här - http://www.recepten.se/recept/semlor.html ) och är superglad när jag funderar på detta.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 24, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
:sweden: tack så mycket för ditt svar, jayen! jag skulle säga att du kan skriva jättebra. jag kanske är inte den bäste domaren, eftersom svenska inte är min modersmål heller, men i alla fall ditt förslag låter bra. särskilt om du vill prata bara med text, det är troligen möjligt för mig att hänga med och snacka lite på helgdagar (visste inte att veckoslut var ett finlandssvenska ord! man lär sig mer varje dag). så du skulle berätta vad funkar för dig, och vi kan kompromissa eller hitta något som fungerar för alla.

edit - semlorna ser god ut! men jag vill laga dom nu....
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on January 24, 2015, 08:58:47 PM
särskilt om du vill prata bara med text, det är troligen möjligt för mig att hänga med och snacka lite på helgdagar (visste inte att veckoslut var ett finlandssvenska ord! man lär sig mer varje dag).

"Veckoslut" används även i rikssvenska, men det är inte lika vanligt som "helg".
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Hrollo on January 25, 2015, 01:48:45 AM
Thought this might interesting some of you: http://eliasericson.tumblr.com/

Blog of a Swedish artist who makes illustration and comics — most of them in English, but occasionally he does one in Swedish (including a few several-pages ones that you can buy in digital format).

It is primarily about LGTB/trans issues, though not exclusively.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on January 25, 2015, 05:30:18 AM
För min del om vi ska skriva det funkar lika bra har, men om det ska vara en samtal och många vill deltar i det, jag vill också gärna vara med (om jag är ledigt - livet är trångt).

Jag visste inte att veckoslut används även i rikssvenska, intressant (och tack). När jag höra det är det alltid med en finskt brytning.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 25, 2015, 01:16:20 PM
Thought this might interesting some of you: http://eliasericson.tumblr.com/

Blog of a Swedish artist who makes illustration and comics — most of them in English, but occasionally he does one in Swedish (including a few several-pages ones that you can buy in digital format).

It is primarily about LGTB/trans issues, though not exclusively.
These are really cute! :D :sweden: Tack så mycket! Jag läser det nu!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 25, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
These are really cute! :D :sweden: Tack så mycket! Jag läser det nu!

han har också en serie på babian (http://babian.se), men den som jag gillade bäst var den här serien (http://babian.se/nr24/pokemon) av robin larsson, "jag var ett barn av pokémon-generationen." (eftersom jag var också ett barn av pokémon-generationen!)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Vindiu on January 26, 2015, 01:43:39 AM
While my passive Swedish is decent (I read and understood the introductory post of this thread), I'm completely useless in offering more than monosyllabic active phrases. That being said, if I'm available during whatever timeslot people end up holding this, I'm certainly interested in listening in at the very least and getting more exposure.

Same situation here. Would love to join.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on January 26, 2015, 01:55:46 AM
Same situation here. Would love to join.
:sweden: Mycket bra! Välkommen~
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Vindiu on January 27, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
Tack!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on February 03, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Ursäkta att jag har varit så tyst.  Har inte haft världens bästa vecka men förhoppningsvis ska det vara bättre härifrån. Hur är läget med er, svenskttalandegrupp? Har ni också mycket snö?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on February 03, 2015, 01:31:48 PM
Ursäkta att jag har varit så tyst.  Har inte haft världens bästa vecka men förhoppningsvis ska det vara bättre härifrån. Hur är läget med er, svenskttalandegrupp? Har ni också mycket snö?

hej jnh! tack för att du påminner mig om gruppen. här i toronto finns mycket snö, och det kommer att snöa två eller tre gånger i veckan. men det betyder att jag kommer antagligen inte att göra mycket utanför, so om ni vill ha gruppsamtal håller jag med.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 03, 2015, 01:43:14 PM
Ursäkta att jag har varit så tyst.  Har inte haft världens bästa vecka men förhoppningsvis ska det vara bättre härifrån. Hur är läget med er, svenskttalandegrupp? Har ni också mycket snö?

De senaste dygnen har det snöat en hel del, och nu finns det snö i hela Sverige, från Ystad till Treriksröset.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on February 03, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
Funkar Torsdag från era (eller dina, beror på hur många vill deltar) perspektiv?  Jag måste ta katten till våra kattvakten innan vi dra oss till Storbritannien under helgen så kanske jag kan prata på vägen hemma, eller när jag är hemma och börjar packningsprocessen. Kanske lite senare passar bättre för er som bor i Nord Amerika.

Jag precis kollade på YouTube första grejen som jag såg på svensk tv.  Jag var helt förvirrade över det här:
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 04, 2015, 02:32:23 AM
För min del går det inte den kommande torsdagen (i morgon), då jag är på ett evenemang och inte kommer hem förrän midnatt CET.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 04, 2015, 02:41:27 AM
Jag precis kollade på YouTube första grejen som jag såg på svensk tv.  Jag var helt förvirrade över det här:
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Det är från programmet "Allsång på Skansen", som sänds varje sommar och där kända artister deltar. Peps Persson är en gammal "proggare" (musiker i den progressiva musikrörelsen från 1970-talet). Han sjunger och talar med skånsk dialekt. För exempel på hur olika svenska kan låta i (modern) musik kan du kolla min post i musiktråden (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=9.msg18364#msg18364).
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on February 11, 2015, 09:48:24 PM
Hej!

Jag är för tillfället i Japan, så jag vet inte om jag kan vara med och prata på Skype eller liknande. Dock hjälper jag gärna till om det är någon som har frågor om grammatik, vill att någon ska korrekturläsa deras svenska texter eller dylikt =)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on February 16, 2015, 05:26:25 PM
Jag har försökt att skapa semlor ikväll.  Glutenfria semlor, det har inte gick bra, tyvärr.  Har någon annat gjorde samma sak?

Imorgon, på fettisdagen, ska vi prova dom.  Jag hoppas att det ska vara bra, men har ingen tror på det.

Semlor är den svenska tradition på "Mardi Gras".

Har finns en recept for den normal-version.

Semlor: http://www.leila.se/leilas-semlor/recept/bakverk/index1,23.htm?id=2853
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on February 16, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Jag har försökt att skapa semlor ikväll.  Glutenfria semlor, det har inte gick bra, tyvärr.  Har någon annat gjorde samma sak?

Imorgon, på fettisdagen, ska vi prova dom.  Jag hoppas att det ska vara bra, men har ingen tror på det.

Semlor är den svenska tradition på "Mardi Gras".

Har finns en recept for den normal-version.

Semlor: http://www.leila.se/leilas-semlor/recept/bakverk/index1,23.htm?id=2853

aughhhh, jag vill försöka att laga dom men har inte haft tid! varje gång att jag ser receptet blir jag svartsjuk.

när jag lagar dom ska jag ladda upp foton för att ni kan se.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on February 16, 2015, 09:30:29 PM
Jag har försökt att skapa semlor ikväll.  Glutenfria semlor, det har inte gick bra, tyvärr.  Har någon annat gjorde samma sak?

Imorgon, på fettisdagen, ska vi prova dom.  Jag hoppas att det ska vara bra, men har ingen tror på det.

Semlor är den svenska tradition på "Mardi Gras".

Har finns en recept for den normal-version.

Semlor: http://www.leila.se/leilas-semlor/recept/bakverk/index1,23.htm?id=2853

Utgick du från Leilas recept eller hade du ett glutenfritt? Har inte bakat semlor själv, men Arla och Ica brukar ha ganska bra recept. Här är deras glutenfria semlor: http://www.arla.se/recept/glutenfria-semlor/ (http://www.arla.se/recept/glutenfria-semlor/), http://www.ica.se/recept/glutenfri-semla-714698/ (http://www.ica.se/recept/glutenfri-semla-714698/).

Vad var det som inte funkade? Kan du ha använt fel sorts jäst så att bullarna inte blev så fluffiga?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on February 18, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
http://www.recept.nu/nyhetsmorgon/oscar-malevik/glutenfria-semlor/

Det var den har som jag forsokt med.  Jag vet inte vad gick fel men degen var som soppa.  Jag vet inte varför.

Jag var tvungen att använde mycket mer potatismjöl och rismjöl, men jag visste inte hur mycket var rätt så det var bara en gissning.

Dom ser bra ut och smakar bra men är jätte torr, och jag kan inte rekommenderar detta recept.

Jag tog den istället för ICA's eller Arla's för att vi föredra att använde ekologiskt produkter och jag tror inte att en ekologiskt 'glutenfri mix' finns.

Hur gick det för ni?

Mina semlor såg ut så har:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/jayen_aitch/semlor.jpg)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Riku on February 22, 2015, 07:59:36 AM
Hej!

I don't know if this group is still open to new members. But I'd like to join if it is. I only just started learning Swedish this week to be honest. I'm passionate about it though and am eager to improve. I'm a fluent English speaker from Australia (GMT +10) and Swedish will be my first foreign language if I manage to nail it. I'm available at any feasible time as I don't have a lot going on right now. So if you have the patience for a total beginner that would be great.

Tack så mycket! ^^
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on February 22, 2015, 12:11:06 PM
Hej!

I don't know if this group is still open to new members. But I'd like to join if it is. I only just started learning Swedish this week to be honest. I'm passionate about it though and am eager to improve. I'm a fluent English speaker from Australia (GMT +10) and Swedish will be my first foreign language if I manage to nail it. I'm available at any feasible time as I don't have a lot going on right now. So if you have the patience for a total beginner that would be great.

Tack så mycket! ^^

Always open, yes! And don't worry, a lot of us are beginners. Let us know if you have any questions.

We actually have yet to have a big group skype chat or even IM chat, largely because of the time difference... so.. yeah. But if you want to exchange contact info with anyone, feel free to do that! I know I personally wouldn't mind more people to chat with~
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on February 22, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
Always open, yes! And don't worry, a lot of us are beginners. Let us know if you have any questions.

We actually have yet to have a big group skype chat or even IM chat, largely because of the time difference... so.. yeah. But if you want to exchange contact info with anyone, feel free to do that! I know I personally wouldn't mind more people to chat with~

yes! the more people we have, the more opportunities we'll have to chat. we have three of us in a skype chat, but if we manage to get a few more people in it maybe we'll all show up at the same time more often!

ha det bra riku :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Riku on February 23, 2015, 07:43:30 AM
Always open, yes! And don't worry, a lot of us are beginners. Let us know if you have any questions.

We actually have yet to have a big group skype chat or even IM chat, largely because of the time difference... so.. yeah. But if you want to exchange contact info with anyone, feel free to do that! I know I personally wouldn't mind more people to chat with~

Hi again!

It's nice to know I'm not the only beginner here! It's a bit sad to hear you guys aren't that active in Skype, though time differences can definitely be a pain.
Haha, yeah me too. I've been trying to find people to practice/learn with. I signed up for mylanguageexchange.com the other day but it's not very useful if you don't want to pay for a membership. I was happy to find that there was a group floating around here in the SSSS fan forum, such a magical place. :P

Well, I can be very shy when it comes to verbal communication, but I'd like to exchange Skype details with you if you'd like to chat sometime?

Tack! ^^
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Riku on February 23, 2015, 07:44:32 AM
yes! the more people we have, the more opportunities we'll have to chat. we have three of us in a skype chat, but if we manage to get a few more people in it maybe we'll all show up at the same time more often!

ha det bra riku :)

Thank you both so much!

I'd be happy to join your Skype group if I may. Yes, that's true! It sounds like a lot of fun. Here's an idea, well I don't know if everyone else tries to be online when Minna updates but I know roughly around the time she does over here (6-7pm I think...), we could try and do a session after the latest update of SSSS? Since we'll all most likely be online around that time. Well not 5 days a week, obviously. But maybe on a certain day (that works for everyone) like a Wednesday or something? Just an idea. Sorry for rambling there... xD

Also, I think more activity would attract more people interested in learning Swedish. ^^

Tack!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on February 23, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
Hejsan!
Jag ville också ta del i denna grupp om det är okej.  :)
Jag är finsk och det skulle vara jättetrevlig att få lite visord i vår obligatorisk svenska   ::) Och åtminstone använda den, sådana chanser är inte så vanlig som kunde tänkas. Det skulle vara kul att kunna tala svenska för riktig...  :)

Jag visst blev förvirrad med semlor och fastiagsbuller! XD För en tag jag var lik, "Vad? Sandwiches?"
 :D
(So in a nutshell, Hello, finnish person and I'd like to join as well, if possible  :) )
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 24, 2015, 02:11:16 AM
One advantage of hearing Swedish spoken is to learn the pronounciation of the bewildering array of sh-sounds (and when to use them). Some examples:

kärna - stjärna (core - star)
chock - tjock - skock (shock - thick - group/herd [the last one without a sh-sound, but with a hard "k"])
stjäl - själ - skäl ([to] steal - soul - reason)

As you can see, as many words are (almost) homonymous, faulty pronounciation might make a sentence confusing or unintentionally funny...
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on February 24, 2015, 08:03:10 AM
One advantage of hearing Swedish spoken is to learn the pronounciation of the bewildering array of sh-sounds (and when to use them). Some examples:

kärna - stjärna (core - star)
chock - tjock - skock (shock - thick - group/herd [the last one without a sh-sound, but with a hard "k"])
stjäl - själ - skäl ([to] steal - soul - reason)

As you can see, as many words are (almost) homonymous, faulty pronounciation might make a sentence confusing or unintentionally funny...

i can tell the first two sets apart, but not the third. is there any difference in pronunciation between stjäl/själ/skäl?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 24, 2015, 09:42:06 AM
Actually, they are all pronounced the same, "shäl" (long vowel). Trying to pronounce the separate letters just make "stjäl" and "skäl" sound funny. Here context is important. Man kan ha sina skäl att stjäla en själ.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on February 25, 2015, 02:20:02 AM
The feeling when you have a test on irregular verbs of swedish in few hours and you're wasting your time on the forum.  ::)

Now how would one remember that hugga does not mean "to hug" XD Whoops.....
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on February 25, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
i can tell the first two sets apart, but not the third. is there any difference in pronunciation between stjäl/själ/skäl?

They are pronounced in the same way :P
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Kata Kissa on February 25, 2015, 04:51:46 PM
Hej, I'm basically a complete beginner at this (have finally beaten duolingo into submission - it was being weird for me earlier) and while I've got some dreams of picking up Norwegian and Finnish as well eventually, Swedish seemed the place to start, largely because that's the one I could find a free course for that seemed comprehensible. ^^;;

I'd love to get in the skype chat, even if I can't follow much (if anything) that's going to be going on yet.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on February 26, 2015, 03:18:34 PM
Underbart och välkomna till er alla, det är så trevligt hur många folk deltar nu.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Kata Kissa on February 27, 2015, 02:31:27 PM
tack så mycket! jag tycker om svenska.

(aaand there ends my ability to converse.)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on February 27, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
tack så mycket! jag tycker om svenska.

(aaand there ends my ability to converse.)
Well, hey, you also know sköldpadda!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Kata Kissa on February 27, 2015, 06:29:01 PM
Well, hey, you also know sköldpadda!

Yes, but I'm finding it hard to work into a sentence just yet.

Oo, how about... Jag tycker om sköldpaddorna!

It's very true.  All of them.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 28, 2015, 06:07:02 AM
Yes, but I'm finding it hard to work into a sentence just yet.

Oo, how about... Jag tycker om sköldpaddorna!

It's very true.  All of them.

Here's one difference between English and Swedish and the use of articles. By tagging on "-na", you say "I like the turtles!", using the definite from of the word. If you had written "Jag tycker om sköldpaddor!" ("I like turtles!"), you would've indicated turtles in general.

Trivia: "sköldpadda" literally means "shield toad", which is what they must've looked like to those who first saw them way back.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: JoB on March 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Trivia: "sköldpadda" literally means "shield toad", which is what they must've looked like to those who first saw them way back.
Must've been quite a ways back, then, since it's the same in Dutch (schildpadden), German (Schildkröte), and probably a couple more.

It's a lid toad (Deckelmoog) in Luxembourgish, though. ;)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on March 01, 2015, 02:28:54 PM
Must've been quite a ways back, then, since it's the same in Dutch (schildpadden), German (Schildkröte), and probably a couple more.

It's a lid toad (Deckelmoog) in Luxembourgish, though. ;)
Considering the German influence on Swedish during the Middle Ages and up to the 17th century, I can see why the name might have got a straight translation.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Kata Kissa on March 02, 2015, 10:35:20 AM
Here's one difference between English and Swedish and the use of articles. By tagging on "-na", you say "I like the turtles!", using the definite from of the word. If you had written "Jag tycker om sköldpaddor!" ("I like turtles!"), you would've indicated turtles in general.

Trivia: "sköldpadda" literally means "shield toad", which is what they must've looked like to those who first saw them way back.

Thankfully, silly though it is, I actually intended to say "I like the turtles". XD

All the turtles.  Every one of of them, individually.  I love them. O_O

But no, you're right, i meant "sköldpaddorna" in a general "sköldpaddor" sort of way.  The internet is bad for my grammar. XD
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: JoB on March 02, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
All the turtles.  Every one of of them, individually.  I love them. O_O
... right (http://imgur.com/nQKmt).
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on March 03, 2015, 02:37:28 AM
hey everyone, it looks like things are shaping up for a voice chat today (mar. 3rd), EST 12 / CET 18. if anyone else who isn't already in the chat would like to take part, send along your skype to me and i'll invite you to the group!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: jayen_aitch on March 03, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Bra samtal. Tack er alla.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on March 03, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
jag vill också tacka er alla för att ni hängde med! jag ser fram emot vårt nästa samtal.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on March 03, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
Det var mycket roligt och intressant, vi måste göra det igen.
  :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Terallodaktus on March 05, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
*sneaks in through backdoor*

still open for another beginner?
I tried learning swedish a while ago, about three years I think. I've recently gotten started on duolingo, main motivation being that my best (swedish) friend comes home from NZ in august and has invited me over. I'd love to surprise her by talking swedish with her mum! :D

I'd probably only lurk around in the beginning, but I've figured out a learning timetable and I'd love to get talking as soon as possible!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on March 05, 2015, 11:25:01 AM
*sneaks in through backdoor*

still open for another beginner?
I tried learning swedish a while ago, about three years I think. I've recently gotten started on duolingo, main motivation being that my best (swedish) friend comes home from NZ in august and has invited me over. I'd love to surprise her by talking swedish with her mum! :D

I'd probably only lurk around in the beginning, but I've figured out a learning timetable and I'd love to get talking as soon as possible!
Of course! You should PM ruth your skype information so she can add you to the group :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Eris on March 09, 2015, 01:11:06 PM
I . . . I've decided that I want to learn Swedish . . . but I'm afraid . . .

*blush*


Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kjeks on March 09, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
I . . . I've decided that I want to learn Swedish . . . but I'm afraid . . .

*blush*

du kan gör det!
(you can do it!)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Eris on March 09, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
du kan gör det!
(you can do it!)
I will do my best! :D I signed myself up for duolingo and am poking around for some more resources, but meep, pronunciation is coming hard to me. Kvinna? The "Kn" consonants are so soft!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on March 09, 2015, 02:56:42 PM
ahh! eris, vi vill gärna välkomna dig in i vår svenska samtalgrupp! om du vill delta på skypegruppen kan du skicka mig ett meddelande.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on March 09, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
du kan gör det!
(you can do it!)
Here's your friendly neighbourhood Swede... The correct expression is "Du kan klara det!" Klara = succeed; gör[a] = do, make. This is one of those instances where some words may appear correct, but don't work in a proper Swedish sentence, and which requires a pretty intimate knowledge of the nuances and meanings of words with similar meanings.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on March 10, 2015, 02:32:56 AM
Here's your friendly neighbourhood Swede... The correct expression is "Du kan klara det!" Klara = succeed; gör[a] = do, make. This is one of those instances where some words may appear correct, but don't work in a proper Swedish sentence, and which requires a pretty intimate knowledge of the nuances and meanings of words with similar meanings.
So, if I understand it correctly, you'd say "du kan klara det!" when encouraging someone? Would it still be correct to use göra in the sense of "kan du göra det?" Like, are you able to do (something)?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on March 10, 2015, 03:09:38 AM
So, if I understand it correctly, you'd say "du kan klara det!" when encouraging someone? Would it still be correct to use göra in the sense of "kan du göra det?" Like, are you able to do (something)?
That's correct. Full marks! :)

You usually ask "Tror du att du kan klara det?" ("Do you think you might succeed?"), and not "Kan du klara det?", which sounds subtly more questioning.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 03:43:27 AM
Hello everybody!

I noticed that some people in here are trying to study Swedish. I happen to be a teacher with my main subjects being Swedish and English (though I teach Swedish to native Swedes and English as a second language). I think I could probably help out with some basic lessons, and at the very least I could always answer questions as best I can.

Anyone interested?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Lars_B on March 14, 2015, 04:56:03 AM
Hey! stop by the chat:
 
http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=ssss
 
there are some wannabe swedes there!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 06:02:49 AM
I will!

I was thinking I could post some basic grammar rules, stuff like that, since I know somewhat how the language works. Vocabulary is easier to pick up from other sources. :-)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on March 14, 2015, 10:40:28 AM
I will!

I was thinking I could post some basic grammar rules, stuff like that, since I know somewhat how the language works. Vocabulary is easier to pick up from other sources. :-)
Yes please! :D We also have a weekly-ish skype chat if you're interested in helping with pronunciation as well.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
I'll begin by having a look at articles of speech then - what we would call an ordklass. :-)

Swedish has (sort of) ten of them, much like English.

I'll write a piece on nouns later.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 11:37:28 AM
Nouns

To begin with, the main difference between Swedish and English is that Swedish has grammatical gender, much like for example German and Spanish. However, modern Swedish only has two official grammatical gender: utrum and neutrum, also known as n-genus and t-genus. We used to have masculinum and femininum as well, but nowadays only remnants of them are left in the language, mainly in dialects.

Roughly 75 % of Swedish nouns are utrum, n-genus, so if you have to guess, guess at that. Unfortunately there are no clear-cut rules as to what noun goes in what cathegory, although I've noticed that nouns that would take das in German often seems to be neutrum, t-genus.

So, what does it matter? Quite a bit actually.

A noun's gender affects its indefinite articles, and also the pronouns this or that (I'm getting these mixed up with "the" in my head right now, I'd see these as more of a definite article actually). This or that would be either den or det. The indefinite articles are en or ett.
It also affects what suffix is put after the noun to show it's definite: -en or -et.

Example of utrum: dog - hund
A dog - en hund
The dog - Hunden
That dog - den hunden

Example of neutrum: house - hus
A house - ett hus
The house - Huset
That house - det huset
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on March 14, 2015, 11:59:07 AM
I've been wondering, when it comes to plurals, it seems like all ett-words I come across don't take a separate ending like en-words would (so the plural and the singular form are the same, and you can tell which one by the article or the other words around it) ... Is that true or am I just getting confused?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on March 14, 2015, 12:33:48 PM
I've been wondering, when it comes to plurals, it seems like all ett-words I come across don't take a separate ending like en-words would (so the plural and the singular form are the same, and you can tell which one by the article or the other words around it) ... Is that true or am I just getting confused?

iirc, it depends on whether the word ends in a vowel or a consonant.

consonant words have the pattern ett ord – ordet — flera ord – orden.

whereas vowel words have the pattern ett äpple – äpplet — flera äpplen – äpplena.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
I'd say that you are 99 % correct. There are most likely exceptions, but I can't think of a single neutrum noun that would take a plural suffix, at least not right now. They do change when you make them definite, though. Most seem to take -en as suffix then.
Ett hus/A house - det huset/that house - flera hus/several houses - de husen/those houses.
Ett träd - det trädet - flera träd - de träden
Ett djur - det djuret - flera djur - de djuren
Ett ljus - det ljuset - flera ljus - de ljusen
Ett kort - det kortet - flera kort - de korten

I just thought of a couple of exceptions, but I have a hard time thinking of more:
Ett strå - det strået - flera strån - de stråna (strand as in strand of hair, or the word for a single blade of grass)
Ett öga - det ögat - flera ögon - de ögonen (eye)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 14, 2015, 12:39:19 PM
Hah, thanks Ruth.  :D Here I try to sound all expert-y, and then I can't even remember such a thing. It certainly is different looking at the language from the "outside".  :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on March 14, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
augh, you're so right though! ögon/ögonen is my personal bête noire, even now that i've wrapped my mind around most of the usages for bestämd/obestämd form, that irregular plural constantly trips me up.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Auleliel on March 15, 2015, 11:36:24 AM
*raises her hand and waves it so enthusiastically that she almost knocks over the kid sleeping at the next desk*

Teacher! Teacher! I have a somewhat-off-topic question!

*ahem*

When making an affirmative answer to a negative question, why is the word "det" used twice?
(Such as in "Finns det ingen mat? --Jo, det finns det.")

*sits attentively at her desk with pen poised over a fresh page in her notebook, ready to take detailed notes*
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 15, 2015, 03:28:57 PM
My first thought was that it's a phrasal verb, like in phrases like: "jump on"/"hoppa på" or "get out"/"få ut".

But when I look at it, I rather think that it's two pronouns pointing back to two different things. The first "det" is a pronoun linked to the verb (finns det/det finns), and the second "det" is a pronoun linked to the noun (mat/det). So: "Finns det ingen mat?" "Jo, det finns det."

It would be perfectly possible to either say: "Finns det ingen mat?" "Jo, det finns." or "Finns det ingen mat?" "Jo, det finns mat." The last one feels a bit superfluous though, but I wouldn't raise my eyebrows at the first one.

Editing and modifying my earlier answer when I found a better explanation online. It is a type of pronoun: http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/theswedishteacher/tag/definite-form/ (a great blog written by a smarter person than me) mentions something called a determinative pronoun, a pronoun showing that we haven't got all information yet but will get it. In this case, the missing information is what noun the speaker asks if it exists. "Finns det ingen mat?" "Finns det ingen hund?" "Finns det något hus?" "Finns det någon hjälp?"
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 15, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
So, to continue having a look at nouns, I actually had to go look certain things up myself. Before this I hadn't thought much about the fact that Swedish has several declensions, since it's one of those things you "just know" if it's your native tongue.

Once we know what gender a noun has, there are three more things to think about.
Numerus (one/many): singular or plural
Bestämdhet ("definiteness"): definite or indefinite
If the noun signifies possession: nominativ or genitiv

There are probably exceptions, since languages seem to be made up of exceptions, but in most cases I'd say that a noun always fits into three of these groups. It's either singular or plural, either definite or indefinite, either nominativ or genitiv.

Singular/Plural
As I'm typing this, I realize that learning Swedish must be absolutely terrible. Plural is signified by adding a suffix to the noun, but as I check Wikipedia to refresh my memory, I see that most languages only have two or possibly three suffixes for plural. We have five. Well, six, if you count those that don't take a suffix at all.
-or, -ar, -er, -r, -n
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Devilcandy on March 15, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
Bestämdhet ("definiteness"): definite or indefinite

So: we have our nouns, neatly divided in utrum and neutrum (en or ett). We know if they are singular or if they take one of the five different suffixes for plural. Now it's time to make them definite or indefinite.

Indefinite is easy: just leave them as they are. There is an indefinite article: en for utrum nouns (about 75 % as mentioned) or ett for neutrum nouns: en katt, ett bord.

To make them definite, however, we need to once again change or add suffixes.
Singular:
In most cases, the utrum nouns, add -n or -an. The more unusual neutrum nouns take -t, -et or in rare cases -at instead. Looking at examples from my earlier list:
   
Plural:
The first, second AND third declensions, that is utrum nouns ending with -a or short one-syllable utrum nouns, or ones ending with -e, -el, -en or -on, or the mixed group of borrowed utrum/neutrum nouns, so a very large group (I'd say giant-sized rather than troll-sized), end with -na when plural and definite. When in doubt, go for -na. It's like Emil with a bag of incendiaries, just carpet-bomb.
 
Yeah, they're getting fairly long. So: Singular indefinite: tapet or en tapet, singular definite: tapeten, plural indefinite: tapeter, plural definite: tapeterna.

As for neutrum nouns, they divide into two groups:

There are definitely exceptions, but I think these are the main groups. Will post about genitiv (possessive nouns) tomorrow.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on April 16, 2015, 01:42:41 PM
I was in London recently and found a large bookstore that sold books in Swedish, so I picked up some titles by Astrid Lindgren for practice! The complete set of Karlsson på taket (because I'd seen the cartoon a lot when I was growing up in Russia and I'd always wanted to read the original) and Ronja rövardotter (I think someone on this forum said I should read it, so...)

Hadn't gotten too into them yet, but I will soon, though it might take me a while to get through.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Tap10lan on April 26, 2015, 08:22:18 AM
Hi all, I get the impression there's quite an interest in learning Swedish, but that it's tricky to find times to get together to talk.

I am willing to participate in various activities of this kind, but the above thing applies to me, too.

HOWEVER, I'm Swedish, translator (English/German/Swedish), born, bred, and live in Sweden, have mixed background (Finnish mum, Austrian dad (Croatian minority group).
So I know a smattering of various languages.

I would be happy to help any of you if you want to have someone tweak text you produce, or just give feedback on it.

(As an example, almost everyone who knows English should try concatenating words when writing in Swedish. We, just like Finns, and Germans, like merging words to create new words! ;D )

Anyway, let me know if I can help!

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: MrNegative on April 26, 2015, 09:50:34 AM
I'll probably join the learning group later on after I push through a bit more of Duolingo.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on April 26, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
Hi all, I get the impression there's quite an interest in learning Swedish, but that it's tricky to find times to get together to talk.
It is! I'd say that's one of our biggest hurdles right now; some of our members are in North America and others are in Finland/Sweden and I think one person was in Japan? There's not really a time when all of those people are awake, sadly XD But  we will figure something out, I promise!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on April 26, 2015, 10:49:35 PM
It is! I'd say that's one of our biggest hurdles right now; some of our members are in North America and others are in Finland/Sweden and I think one person was in Japan? There's not really a time when all of those people are awake, sadly XD But  we will figure something out, I promise!
You called? I won't be back in Sweden until August, but I could help if people need someone to proof read or something.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on May 13, 2015, 09:17:47 AM
So lately I developed a serious music-crush on Kent and decided I must learn Swedish (this is a thing that keeps happening to me). I was very happy to find this thread, and the lessons are bite-sized and not intimidating and pretty awesome! Will there be any more? Is any minnion learning Swedish right now?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 10:06:34 AM
Hello everybody!

I noticed that some people in here are trying to study Swedish. I happen to be a teacher with my main subjects being Swedish and English (though I teach Swedish to native Swedes and English as a second language). I think I could probably help out with some basic lessons, and at the very least I could always answer questions as best I can.

Anyone interested?

Ja, tack!  Jag lär mig svenska för min semester i juni.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 13, 2015, 11:18:55 AM
So lately I developed a serious music-crush on Kent and decided I must learn Swedish (this is a thing that keeps happening to me). I was very happy to find this thread, and the lessons are bite-sized and not intimidating and pretty awesome! Will there be any more? Is any minnion learning Swedish right now?

Yep, quite a few in fact! Mostly they/we hang out here: https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=250
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 02:44:43 PM
Hej, alla!Hej alla,

Jag heter Dave och jag är från USA.  Jag lära mig svenska bara lite veckor.  Jag går till Sverige och Finland på semester i juni -- 5 dagen i Stockholm, 4 dagen i Mariehman, och ett vecka i Åbo och Helsingfors.

Jag är ledsen för min dåliga svenska.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 13, 2015, 03:33:41 PM
Hej, alla!Hej alla,

Jag heter Dave och jag är från USA.  Jag lära mig svenska bara lite veckor.  Jag går till Sverige och Finland på semester i juni -- 5 dagen i Stockholm, 4 dagen i Mariehman, och ett vecka i Åbo och Helsingfors.

Jag är ledsen för min dåliga svenska.
Nej nej, din svenska är helt bra! :)

Two things I picked up on:
"lite veckor" - seems a bit confusing, since "lite" means "slightly" or "a little"
i.e. Jag är lite hungrig just nu = I'm a little hungry right now.

går is commonly used for places you are/could conceivably walk to. I don't know if there's an english equivalent...
for places that are farther away you would say åker (to ride/drive) or reser (to travel)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on May 13, 2015, 05:29:06 PM
välkommen dave! jag skulle säga att vi är en jättevänlig klunga, och jag tror att om du stannar här ett tag kommer du att lära dig mycket från vår grupp av svenskar och svenskstuderande. var inte ledsen! jag kan förstå dig gott.

om jag skulle tillägga något mer än det solovei har redan föreslått (och det var allt bra!), är det bara några få saker som minskar inte min förståelse:

pluralformen av dag är dagar - man säger då t.ex. "5 dagor i Stockholm." och artikeln till vecka är en, inte ett. men de är bara småsaker. du kommer säkert att klara det!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Nej nej, din svenska är helt bra! :)

Tack!  (Just don't ask me to actually pronounce this stuff properly -- it's bad enough I speak French with a German accent and German with a French accent!)

Quote
Two things I picked up on:
"lite veckor" - seems a bit confusing, since "lite" means "slightly" or "a little"
i.e. Jag är lite hungrig just nu = I'm a little hungry right now.

Hur säger man "a few" på svenska?

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går is commonly used for places you are/could conceivably walk to. I don't know if there's an english equivalent...
for places that are farther away you would say åker (to ride/drive) or reser (to travel)

No, I don't think there's really an English equivalent. "Go" would be correct for any of those.  "I am going to the store" "I am going to the next town" and "I am going to Sweden" are equally correct, although I could say "I'm walking to the store," "I'm driving to the next town" and "I'm travelling to Sweden".

"Reser" -- very similar to "reisen" in German (Jag talar också tyska ;)) 

Tack också för hjälpen!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
välkommen dave! jag skulle säga att vi är en jättevänlig klunga, och jag tror att om du stannar här ett tag kommer du att lära dig mycket från vår grupp av svenskar och svenskstuderande. var inte ledsen! jag kan förstå dig gott.

Tack gode Gud för Google Translate...

Så mycket ord det jag inte förstå.  Men jag kan lär mig!

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pluralformen av dag är dagar - man säger då t.ex. "5 dagor i Stockholm." och artikeln till vecka är en, inte ett. men de är bara småsaker. du kommer säkert att klara det!

Argh.  Ja. OK.  Dag/dagar.  Det är min tyska :/ 

Ett/En.  På svenska, har substantiv kön?  Engelska har inte kön för substantiv.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 13, 2015, 06:45:05 PM
Tack!  (Just don't ask me to actually pronounce this stuff properly -- it's bad enough I speak French with a German accent and German with a French accent!)

Hur säger man "a few" på svenska?
Well, you can say "ett par" which means a couple or (literally) a pair.
"a few" is more closely translated as några
i.e. Det tar några veckor = It takes a few weeks.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: olavi on May 13, 2015, 06:59:13 PM
Ett/En.  På svenska, har substantiv kön?  Engelska har inte kön för substantiv.

Kolla den här topic där en svensk lärare förklarar de svenska könen: https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=340.msg26896

Long story short the masculine and feminine genders have merged into a common gender. Where there once was 3 genders there now is only 2: common (en) and neuter (ett).
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on May 13, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
Well, you can say "ett par" which means a couple or (literally) a pair.
"a few" is more closely translated as några
i.e. Det tar några veckor = It takes a few weeks.

You can also use "några få", which is basically the same, but tends to indicate a lesser (but undefined) amount than "några".
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
Well, you can say "ett par" which means a couple or (literally) a pair.
"a few" is more closely translated as några
i.e. Det tar några veckor = It takes a few weeks.

Mmm...so någ by itself must me something like "some" right?  If memory serves, någon is "someone" and "något" is something?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 13, 2015, 10:28:43 PM
Kolla den här topic där en svensk lärare förklarar de svenska könen: https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=340.msg26896

Long story short the masculine and feminine genders have merged into a common gender. Where there once was 3 genders there now is only 2: common (en) and neuter (ett).

Tack.  Ett mer än engelska :)  Finns det regler eller bara vet en och ett?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on May 14, 2015, 01:19:16 AM
Tack.  Ett mer än engelska :)  Finns det regler eller bara vet en och ett?

Nej, du måste minnas dem. :)

Men, substantiv är mestadels en-ord, så om du måste gissa, du kommer att ha bättre chans om du välja "en".
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 14, 2015, 01:25:56 AM
Tack.  Ett mer än engelska :)  Finns det regler eller bara vet en och ett?
(Jag är för trött för svara på svenska, förlåt...)

Ryagami is right in that there aren't really any set rules, but usually living things are always en- whereas non-living things are ett-
There are of course some very important exceptions to that, like "barn" (child)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: olavi on May 14, 2015, 09:33:23 AM
(Jag är för trött för svara på svenska, förlåt...)

Ryagami is right in that there aren't really any set rules, but usually living things are always en- whereas non-living things are ett-
There are of course some very important exceptions to that, like "barn" (child)

This might be because the proto Indo-European "genders" were animate and inanimate. The animate split into masculine and feminine at some point creating the three part system still in use in German, Icelandic, and Russian. Some Germanic languages have combined the former animate parts masculine and feminine (like Swedish and northern dialects of Dutch) or got rid of the genders altogether (English).

Latin used to have the three fold split too, but when the classical Latin turned into vulgar Latin the neuter was infused (mostly) into the masculine gender. Only masculine and feminine are found in the modern Romance languages. Some of the former neuter nouns appear now as irregular nouns with singular that acts like one gender and plural that switches to another.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on May 14, 2015, 10:06:21 AM
Minor nitpicking that's not even related to Swedish:
Only masculine and feminine are found in the modern Romance languages. Some of the former neuter nouns appear now as irregular nouns with singular that acts like one gender and plural that switches to another.
Actually, Romanian does have a neuter gender, along with masculine and feminine. It behaves as you described irregular nouns (masculine for singular, feminine for plural).

More on topic, I got a duolingo account at Solovei's suggestion (tack så mycket!) and I'm burning through the low level Swedish lessons. Damn addictive little thing. Grammar and vocabulary-wise it seems like such an easy language so far, but Jesus, the pronunciation is insane. I'll join you guys in this thread as soon as I feel confident with the basic basics.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on May 14, 2015, 10:16:45 AM
Mmm...so någ by itself must me something like "some" right?  If memory serves, någon is "someone" and "något" is something?
Well, "någ" never appears by itself. "Någon" appears in early forms in the early 16th century.

Yep, you are correct as to the meaning of "någon" and "något", but it is also determined by the article - if it is "en" (en person, en telefon, en chans), you use "någon"; if it is "ett" (ett forum, ett ord, ett flygplan), "något" is used. In everyday speech and writing, the words are usually abbreviated to "nån" and "nåt". You also find the "någ" root in "någonstans" (somewhere), "någonting" (something), and "någorlunda" (somewhat).
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 14, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
More on topic, I got a duolingo account at Solovei's suggestion (tack så mycket!) and I'm burning through the low level Swedish lessons. Damn addictive little thing. Grammar and vocabulary-wise it seems like such an easy language so far, but Jesus, the pronunciation is insane. I'll join you guys in this thread as soon as I feel confident with the basic basics.

The pronounciation isn't that difficult for me, actually (could be worse... could be... DANISH)
Here's a really useful guide that I show to everyone though: http://www2.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 14, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
More on topic, I got a duolingo account at Solovei's suggestion (tack så mycket!) and I'm burning through the low level Swedish lessons. Damn addictive little thing. Grammar and vocabulary-wise it seems like such an easy language so far, but Jesus, the pronunciation is insane. I'll join you guys in this thread as soon as I feel confident with the basic basics.

For what it's worth, I'm a rank beginner and you'll notice I don't use very many words ;)

(Thankfully, nobody can hear my pronunciation yet.)

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 14, 2015, 04:48:12 PM
Here's a really useful guide that I show to everyone though: http://www2.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm

Bookmarked.  Så mycket tack!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on May 15, 2015, 09:27:26 AM
Någon lyssna till svenska radio?  Jag ha för några år lyssna på radio i tyska och franska med listenlive.eu.  Jag se det är svenska radio där.

Också, några bra och långsam svenska podcasts? 
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on May 15, 2015, 11:04:33 AM
So lately I developed a serious music-crush on Kent and decided I must learn Swedish (this is a thing that keeps happening to me). I was very happy to find this thread, and the lessons are bite-sized and not intimidating and pretty awesome! Will there be any more? Is any minnion learning Swedish right now?

Hej anonion!

Det finns flera av oss här som lär sig svenska. Förresten, jag älskar Kent. De har många väldigt bra låtar! :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on May 17, 2015, 03:01:33 AM
Jag har jo lyssnat på svenska radion några gånger fast jag inte ofta förstor dem. XD På yle vega, Finlands svenskspråkiga kanal. Men  jag kan inte hjäpa med podcaster, för jag lyssnar nånting liksom  nyheter eller sådant...  :(
Det skulle jo vara roligt att ha en lätt podcast som kunde man kunde lyssnas på. :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Divra on May 17, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Sveriges Radio gör ett nyhetsprogram på lätt svenska, avsett för bland annat människor som lär sig svenska, som heter "Klartext", och ska finnas på följande sida.

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/avsnitt?programid=493

Jag vet inte om det hjälper, eller om det ens går att hitta sidan från utanför Sverige, men det kanske kan vara värt ett försök.


Spoiler: show
Swedish national radio makes a news program in easy Swedish, targeted at, among others, pople who are learning Swedish, which is called "Klartext" and is supposed to be on the following page.

I don't know if it helps, or if it's even possibe to find the page from outside Sweden, but it might be worth a try.

Edit: Added translation in spoiler
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 17, 2015, 04:37:43 PM
Sveriges Radio gör ett nyhetsprogram på lätt svenska, avsett för bland annat människor som lär sig svenska, som heter "Klartext", och ska finnas på följande sida.

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/avsnitt?programid=493

Jag vet inte om det hjälper, eller om det ens går att hitta sidan från utanför Sverige, men det kanske kan vara värt ett försök.


Spoiler: show
Swedish national radio makes a news program in easy Swedish, targeted at, among others, pople who are learning Swedish, which is called "Klartext" and is supposed to be on the following page.

I don't know if it helps, or if it's even possibe to find the page from outside Sweden, but it might be worth a try.

Edit: Added translation in spoiler

I tried it on my computer just now (I'm in Canada) and it worked just fine :) The website is pretty straightforward but if anyone needs translations:

Lyssna med musik = Listen with music
Lyssna utan music = Listen without music
Ladda ner = Download
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Ann Marie on May 24, 2015, 07:13:20 PM
Swedish pronunciation is weird.

And that's pretty much all I have to say about it.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on May 25, 2015, 06:26:17 AM
Swedish pronunciation is weird.

And that's pretty much all I have to say about it.
Can I add hilarious?:D

My native language/dialect has a constant slowly descending intonation across the phrase so that's what sounds "normal" to me. I just can't imagine how people fight in Swedish. The way you have to accent almost every syllable makes everything sound so jolly! It's even worse than French. I haven't been able to work on my Swedish pronunciation at all because every time I try it cracks me up.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Divra on May 25, 2015, 06:35:10 AM
Can I add hilarious?:D

My native language/dialect has a constant slowly descending intonation across the phrase so that's what sounds "normal" to me. I just can't imagine how people fight in Swedish. The way you have to accent almost every syllable makes everything sound so jolly! It's even worse than French. I haven't been able to work on my Swedish pronunciation at all because every time I try it cracks me up.

I find it hilarious that you would say that, since that is exactly what Norwegian sounds to Swedes...
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on May 25, 2015, 06:53:32 AM
Ha, that's interesting. I have no experience with Norwegian. I'm listening to some Norwegian radio right now. To my untrained ear it sounds about as jolly as Swedish, but I'm sure the universal human need to poke fun at your neighbours make the differences appear super obvious to Swedes ;)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Divra on May 25, 2015, 06:59:20 AM
... but I'm sure the universal human need to poke fun at your neighbours make the differences appear super obvious to Swedes ;)

In my experience, the Norwegians can take a joke and give as good as they get, so it's all good.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Laufey on May 25, 2015, 07:17:45 AM
In my experience, the Norwegians can take a joke and give as good as they get, so it's all good.

It's basically the Nordics' shared national sport to make fun of each other.

For me, this is how the languages sound like:

Finnish: the only normal ones.
Icelandic: almost normal, but are they angry all the time?
Swedish: they're not talking, they're singing. And they do it a LOT.
(Skåne dialect: wat.)
Norwegian: ...at least they aren't singing, but I think they're disappointed with me.
Danish: are you ok?
Faroese: uh, I thiiiink I kind of sort of get what you mean but you did WHAT to a WHAT?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kjeks on May 25, 2015, 07:19:16 AM
it took me some time tu get pronounciation right, but with german in mind it makes sense to me which letters combine to what sound. This is for passive pronounciation (all in my mind). My mouth cannot handle it that well, but this is because I have not trained enough.


and thanks laufey XD
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on May 25, 2015, 07:54:23 AM
It's basically the Nordics' shared national sport to make fun of each other.

For me, this is how the languages sound like:

Finnish: the only normal ones.
Icelandic: almost normal, but are they angry all the time?
Swedish: they're not talking, they're singing. And they do it a LOT.
(Skåne dialect: wat.)
Norwegian: ...at least they aren't singing, but I think they're disappointed with me.
Danish: are you ok?
Faroese: uh, I thiiiink I kind of sort of get what you mean but you did WHAT to a WHAT?

This is great! I was aware of this friendly rivalry between the Nordics from reading SATW, and it's always fun to find out new aspects of it. I wish we could get a person from each nation to comment with their opinion on the other languages :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on May 27, 2015, 12:36:34 PM
Ha, that's interesting. I have no experience with Norwegian. I'm listening to some Norwegian radio right now. To my untrained ear it sounds about as jolly as Swedish, but I'm sure the universal human need to poke fun at your neighbours make the differences appear super obvious to Swedes ;)

I once spent about 20 minutes watching a Norwegian TV drama fully convinced that it was swedish.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on May 28, 2015, 11:36:39 AM
I must also admit that riksvenska is extremely difficult for me to understand despite having studied Swedish for such a long time. XD Like finlandssvenska - yeah sure I can hold a conversation and pretty much understand the stuff, but if I go to Sweden... I mean the two are actually really different. XD Well last time I understood nothing they said, we'll see what happens this time... XD
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on May 28, 2015, 07:41:14 PM
I must also admit that riksvenska is extremely difficult for me to understand despite having studied Swedish for such a long time. XD Like finlandssvenska - yeah sure I can hold a conversation and pretty much understand the stuff, but if I go to Sweden... I mean the two are actually really different. XD Well last time I understood nothing they said, we'll see what happens this time... XD
Er... If you have studied Swedish, and don't understand rikssvenska, there must be something wrong. I mean, it's like saying that you've studied English, but doesn't understand standard English. I can understand that dialects like finlandssvenska can be a bit hard for non-native speakers to understand fully, though.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on May 29, 2015, 12:42:50 AM
I must also admit that riksvenska is extremely difficult for me to understand despite having studied Swedish for such a long time. XD Like finlandssvenska - yeah sure I can hold a conversation and pretty much understand the stuff, but if I go to Sweden... I mean the two are actually really different. XD Well last time I understood nothing they said, we'll see what happens this time... XD
I'm with Armchair Survivalist here, it sounds really strange. Rikssvenska is the one thing you'd be expected to understand if you've studied Swedish =\
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Laufey on May 29, 2015, 05:19:39 AM
Er... If you have studied Swedish, and don't understand rikssvenska, there must be something wrong. I mean, it's like saying that you've studied English, but doesn't understand standard English. I can understand that dialects like finlandssvenska can be a bit hard for non-native speakers to understand fully, though.
I'm with Armchair Survivalist here, it sounds really strange. Rikssvenska is the one thing you'd be expected to understand if you've studied Swedish =\

There's a logical reason behind this though: rikssvenska and finsk-svenska are almost identical in written form, and in Finland it's finsk-svenska that's demanded (for obvious reasons) so that's the only one we're taught to listen to. The two are pronounced so differently that you could drop a fully fluent Finnish-Swedish speaker to Stockholm and they'd just feel very confused for a day or two before the ear would start getting used to what sounds now mean what. Most of us - myself included - don't speak Swedish fluently though, so for us it would be even harder to train the ear to a whole new and entirely different pronunciation of the same language. :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on May 29, 2015, 05:26:31 AM
There's a logical reason behind this though: rikssvenska and finsk-svenska are almost identical in written form, and in Finland it's finsk-svenska that's demanded (for obvious reasons) so that's the only one we're taught to listen to. The two are pronounced so differently that you could drop a fully fluent Finnish-Swedish speaker to Stockholm and they'd just feel very confused for a day or two before the ear would start getting used to what sounds now mean what. Most of us - myself included - don't speak Swedish fluently though, so for us it would be even harder to train the ear to a whole new and entirely different pronunciation of the same language. :)
I seem to have misread the comment :P my interpretation was that both rikssvenska and finlandssvenska were difficult to understand.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Pessi on May 29, 2015, 05:40:47 AM
you could drop a fully fluent Finnish-Swedish speaker to Stockholm and they'd just feel very confused for a day or two before the ear would start getting used to what sounds now mean what.

Especially since Swedes (at least in Stockholm) are very much like Finns (at least in the metropol area) in switching quickly to English if they realise someone has difficulties with speaking and understanding their language. I've found there's no point in trying to get along with my rusty school Swedish there since everyone will aswer me in English anyway.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: fluffernutters on May 29, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
This is great! I was aware of this friendly rivalry between the Nordics from reading SATW, and it's always fun to find out new aspects of it. I wish we could get a person from each nation to comment with their opinion on the other languages :)

I'll represent the swedes then (or at least attempt to, haha)

Swedish: Obviously the only normal language. People think it's melodic, I can't hear it! D:
Norwegian: They're like a younger brother to us. We'll make bad jokes about them, they make bad jokes about us, but in a bad situation (read Breivik) WE SMOTHER THEM WITH LOVE. They speak a bit funny, they often use words that feels a bit "old" in swedish, in the same way that saying father seems a bit old when you're used to saying dad. They always sound happy. It's very easy to understand norwegian for a swede.
Danish: If Norway is a younger brother, Danish is the constantly drunk uncle. The joke is that if you get a swede drunk enough, they'll start speaking danish (this is at least true for swedes with heavy Scanian accents, I've seen it happen). Most swedes can read danish, but I think only half the swedes I know understand spoken danish, and the other half pretends to be tourists from an english-speaking country.
Finnish: Who came up with this?? Not even a chance of understanding. This video pretty much sums up finnish for me:
/>Finlandssvenska: It's sooooo nice to listen to. Talk about people who sound like they have no worries in the world at all. <3 Like, it comes through so strong even in english:
/>Icelandic: Don't really have much to say. It sounds a bit like finnish!
Faroese: Sounds like a mix between finnish and danish. Hm. Hadn't really heard it until I googled it now.

Would be interesting to hear what other scandinavian people think. :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Laufey on May 29, 2015, 07:41:22 AM
Finnish: Who came up with this?? Not even a chance of understanding. This video pretty much sums up finnish for me:
/>

That's the most accurate representation of Finnish drinking I've ever seen... if he was pulling that act somewhere in Finland I'd think he was some local dude, just drunk. ;D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Cat Is in the Moon on May 29, 2015, 10:36:12 AM
But yes. Jag förstår finlandssvenska bra, men riksvenska är mycket svårare för mig att förstå. Finlandsvenska has all these pronounciation diffrences to riksvenska, and it's also much closer to finnish in it's pronounciation, so for a finn finlandssvenska is much easier to understand, especially since that's what we are mainly taught at schools. :)
 My mom explained that once when she worked in Sweden for a while it took her a month to get used to the Swedish way of speaking Swedish, and she was always really good at Swedish...

I'm babbling again, ain't I?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Tap10lan on May 30, 2015, 04:32:36 PM
This is great! I was aware of this friendly rivalry between the Nordics from reading SATW, and it's always fun to find out new aspects of it. I wish we could get a person from each nation to comment with their opinion on the other languages :)

Here's a beautiful Norwegian short skit about Danish! ;D
We all love one another, but ...

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on May 30, 2015, 06:24:25 PM
Here's a beautiful Norwegian short skit about Danish! ;D
We all love one another, but ...

/>

It's weird what beer does to people... :D

(offtopic: Do you still speak Croatian/Serbo-Croatian?)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Troposphère on June 30, 2015, 06:03:13 AM
Hej!

I'm in Sweden this summer but everybody around me speak English… Does someone want to practice basic Swedish?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on June 30, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
Hej!

I'm in Sweden this summer but everybody around me speak English… Does someone want to practice basic Swedish?
Hej Troposphere!
Our skype chats were at one point a weekly thing, but now it seems like they're gotten a lot sparser as people go on trips and stuff over the summer. That said, I know I would be totally fine with it :) If you're not into actual voice conversations (I for one am reduced to a pile of awkward noises if you ask me to speak swedish out loud), you can also pop into the IRC chat, we have a few swedes (LarsB, Windfighter) or Swedish-speakers (myself, Ruth, Ryagami, Kjeks) who hang out there
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Troposphère on June 30, 2015, 05:58:58 PM
Tack Solovei, I don't have skype but the people on IRC are amazing!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on July 01, 2015, 05:40:50 PM
Du kan väl skapa ett nytt konto på Skype. :)

Det tar mycket lite tid att göra och vi skulle vara glad att ha en ny person med vilken att prata. :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on July 02, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
I would love to join to the skype group and maybe learn swedish, but I am scared now from a group.

my swedish sucks, I basically use my computer, my phone in swedish, so I understand them mostly, but I could not talk to a person.... my vocabulary is like knowing "create, new, search, error, message" or something basic computer stuffs..... looking at my phone, it says "draw your finger over the screen for ____ up"..... mostly my swedish is like I can understand if i read, because they are similar to english or german, but I also learnt some words from using computer/phone in swedish. I have watched melodifestivalen for years now, and I basically can understand they basics they talk about, like "you can vote not, we have a result, you can vote in text message or call, number 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10" some few other stuffs they talk about, and I am so happy when I get a joke they say! e very year it is better. first time I understood noting, last time I understood like 40% of the show or more........ out of 40% there was only like 20% I actually got right the rest was more like I could guess what is happening, or what they say
I was also trying to watch swedish kid shows I found and tried to understand (it was nice to see them with subs, i understood more then without it)
and I never actually tried to SPEAK... I never actually tried to speak much, if I did I used dictionaries or something for words. I can't create any sentence by myself in swedish......
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on July 16, 2015, 06:17:39 AM
I've formed a very small Swedish language group, namely with my American fiancée (Talonvaki on this forum). The difficulties in learning Swedish are several. Pronounciation is one major obstacle, as well as where to stress the syllables. She is determined to learn Swedish, though, as she is to move to me in Sweden. But learning a new language when you are 50 is a bit harder than when you are in your teens, even if I've met immigrants who have picked up the language in half a year.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on July 20, 2015, 01:43:32 PM
I've formed a very small Swedish language group, namely with my American fiancée (Talonvaki on this forum). The difficulties in learning Swedish are several. Pronounciation is one major obstacle, as well as where to stress the syllables. She is determined to learn Swedish, though, as she is to move to me in Sweden. But learning a new language when you are 50 is a bit harder than when you are in your teens, even if I've met immigrants who have picked up the language in half a year.

It just takes more work.  I learned what I know of French and German in my 40s and I've only just started Swedish recently. 

Pronunciation is a bear, men jag kan skriva och läsa lite.

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: talonvaki on July 23, 2015, 03:37:29 PM
I'm definitely better at reading and writing Svenska than I am speaking and hearing it...
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: urbicande on July 24, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
I'm definitely better at reading and writing Svenska than I am speaking and hearing it...

Jag också.  Min svenska är bara lite.  Jag var i Sverige två veckor sedan men jag tala där engelska.  Jag kan inte förstå svenska :(
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on September 09, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
does anyone know a site, where I can watch tvshows or child shows online in swedish (would be nice with subs [swedish sub is okay too])
I used to watch some shows on svtplay.se (with swedish subs), sadly many blocked or some shows has only 1-3 eps and the rest of it is gone already, not even always the first few eps.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: KauniitaUnia on September 09, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
does anyone know a site, where I can watch tvshows or child shows online in swedish (would be nice with subs [swedish sub is okay too])
I used to watch some shows on svtplay.se (with swedish subs), sadly many blocked or some shows has only 1-3 eps and the rest of it is gone already, not even always the first few eps.

Ooooooo the Swedish thread has been dug up again! Woop!
Ehh well the only thing I can recommend right now is watching Jordskott on dailymotion. It has quite good English subtitles (although apparently they get a tiny bit sloppy towards the end). The show itself is hard to describe - it's sort of like a mystery/detective genre with some fantasy elements thrown in, set in a forest. I've watched a few episodes, and so far it's been really good. The only thing I would warn about is that it has a tiny bit of gore, which might not be your cup of tea.

Here's the link. I hope it works for your region!
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x3tqvq_pasnthroo_jordskott-season-1-with-hard-coded-english-subs/1#video=x2njqze
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on September 19, 2015, 01:44:40 PM
Jag är inte säker på huruvida det var nånsin inlagt här, men det finns en spellista på YT av vissa svenska filmer med undertexter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWEk0q4oWEw7iTUs-8GwAYap

Jag hoppas att det är hjälpsam!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on September 19, 2015, 09:12:07 PM
Jag är inte säker på huruvida det var nånsin inlagt här, men det finns en spellista på YT av vissa svenska filmer med undertexter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWEk0q4oWEw7iTUs-8GwAYap

Jag hoppas att det är hjälpsam!

woo, taaack så mycket!!
ja, det är hjälpsam

(I dunno how to write in swedish..... ;3; )
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on September 19, 2015, 09:25:55 PM
IP! ;)

Jag har inte börjat titta på de där filmerna, fast kommer jag troligtvis att göra det snart.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on September 19, 2015, 09:55:35 PM
IP! ;)

Jag har inte börjat titta på de där filmerna, fast kommer jag troligtvis att göra det snart.

*the moment, when I get almost all you write but I can't write in swedish at all*
well, have fun whenever you do so C:
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on September 19, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
Just take it at your own pace. I know I found it very difficult before to piece together the words into a meaningful sentence, even though I know all/most of the words. It still happens from time to time. :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: KauniitaUnia on September 20, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Jag är inte säker på huruvida det var nånsin inlagt här, men det finns en spellista på YT av vissa svenska filmer med undertexter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWEk0q4oWEw7iTUs-8GwAYap

Jag hoppas att det är hjälpsam!

haha det här är mycket mer hjälpsam än min förslag, tack! Jag vill försok att hitta tid att titta på några av dem senare
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kirvel on October 10, 2015, 06:57:06 AM
Hi guys, I'm also learning Swedish (on Duolingo mostly xD, I think I need to expand my language resources)! I'm not sure if your skype group is still running, but I'd love to join to improve my skills! After all I've never really conversed with anyone else in Swedish.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on October 10, 2015, 08:53:30 AM
Hej kirvel!

Välkommen till svenskspråksgruppen! :)

Andra källor som du kan använda, utom Duolingo, är kanske Memrise (http://memrise.com/) (mestadels bara för ordförråd), The Swedish Teacher blog (http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/theswedishteacher/) (förklarar många vanliga saker som du kunde ha frågor om), och många andra som du kan hitta på den här tråden.

Jag känner inte huruvida Skype gruppssamtal fortfarande händer, men, om inte, vi borde väl börja om med de. :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Fauna on October 10, 2015, 10:16:04 AM
Jag är inte säker på huruvida det var nånsin inlagt här, men det finns en spellista på YT av vissa svenska filmer med undertexter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWEk0q4oWEw7iTUs-8GwAYap

Jag hoppas att det är hjälpsam!

Hmm... jag vet inte om just det, men om du är intresserad av Engelsktalande filmer med svensk undertext, så kan du kolla in http://www.swefilmer.ws/94-minions.html
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Fauna on October 10, 2015, 10:24:21 AM
Håller språkgruppen på Skype fortfarande på? :) Jag talar flytande svenska, men det låter kul ändå.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on October 10, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
Hmm... jag vet inte om just det, men om du är intresserad av Engelsktalande filmer med svensk undertext, så kan du kolla in http://www.swefilmer.ws/94-minions.html

Tack så, så mycket! Jag ska vara tvungen att titta på nåra svenska filmer snart. xD
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: viola on October 15, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
Hej jag lär svenska därför att jag kan läser svenska och jag kan förstår svenska, men jag kan inte skriver svenska. Så nu vill jag skriver svenska och pratar svenska. Jag älskar Bron och Äkta Människor och jag tittar på dem med isländska, danska, eller svenska undertexter.

När skriver jag på svenska, skriver jeg alltid "er" och inte "är". Det är alltid något som jag glömma :/
Varför kan ni inte bara ha "er" som isländska och danska? ;)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on October 15, 2015, 09:10:00 PM
Hej jag lär mig svenska därför att jag kan läsa svenska och jag kan förstå svenska, men jag kan inte skriva svenska. Så nu vill jag skriva svenska och prata svenska. Jag älskar Bron och Äkta Människor och jag tittar på dem med isländska, danska, eller svenska undertexter.

När skriver jag på svenska, skriver jag alltid "er" och inte "är". Det är alltid något som jag glömmer:/
Varför kan ni inte bara ha "er" som isländska och danska? ;)

Hej vi!

Välkommen till gruppen!

"är" är mycket bättre än "er"! :P
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Solovei on October 17, 2015, 11:12:33 PM
"är" är mycket bättre än "er"! :P
Det är sänt :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: KauniitaUnia on October 18, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
Hej Vi! Välkommen till den svenska språkgruppen ^^ Oroa dig inte, du kommer att minnas använda 'är' istället för 'er' med tiden.

Och ryagami är rätt, 'är' är mycket bättre än 'er' :p
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on October 20, 2015, 06:23:10 PM
Talonvaki och jag övar svenska, då hon kommer att flytta från USA till Sverige. Vi kommer att gifta oss nästa år. :) Hon har ställt in svenska som språk på sin iPhone, iPad och Mac, och lyssnar mycket på svensk musik. Hon har även en app med språkträning, och så håller vi på med högläsning ur "När Findus var liten och försvann". Svenska är inget lätt språk, men hon bra uttal och kan skriva fullt begripliga meningar.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: kjeks on October 22, 2015, 03:02:05 PM
"När Findus var liten och försvann".
Svenska är inget lätt språk, men hon bra uttal och kan skriva fullt begripliga meningar.
EEEEEEEK. Jag gillar Findus så väldigt mycket. Några tecknad episoder var tillgänglig på norsk TV fyra eller fem månader tidigare i år. Med svenska språket och norska textning.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: talonvaki on October 26, 2015, 01:04:54 PM
Talonvaki och jag övar svenska, då hon kommer att flytta från USA till Sverige. Vi kommer att gifta oss nästa år. :) Hon har ställt in svenska som språk på sin iPhone, iPad och Mac, och lyssnar mycket på svensk musik. Hon har även en app med språkträning, och så håller vi på med högläsning ur "När Findus var liten och försvann". Svenska är inget lätt språk, men hon bra uttal och kan skriva fullt begripliga meningar.

Ja, appen jag använder är Babbel (https://www.babbel.com/). Det kräver att du betalar en avgift , $35US för 6 månader , men det är värt det , tror jag. Det gör du uttala orden på rätt sätt. Jag har bara använt den två veckor , men jag gillar det.

(I used GoogleTranslate to help myself with my Swedish...men du vet att jag vet most of these ord)
(Also, I didn't GoogleTranslate what you wrote - I could understand most of it)

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Taskuhecate on October 27, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
Hej alla! Det har varit för länge sen jag pratade/skrev svenska på riktig.  Jag är amerikanska men en gång bodde jag i Finland (Åbo) i två år och gick vid Åbo Akademi för ett tag.  Jag saknar Finland och Sverige. . .  Om nån vill skriva lite med mig sku det va kiva~.


( Förlåt också om min svenska är en bit oövad.  ^^;; )
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on November 17, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
Sååå... det har varit en lång tid sedan nån har skrivit nåt härinne... Vad gör ni alla? Har ni det bra?

Är nån fortfarande intresserad av ha samtal på Skype? :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: viola on November 17, 2015, 11:19:01 PM
Sååå... det har varit en lång tid sedan nån har skrivit nåt härinne... Vad gör ni alla? Har ni det bra?

Är nån fortfarande intresserad av ha samtal på Skype? :D

Jaaa! Jag vill skype!

Jag tittar på Bron nu, det är svo bra. Jag älskar Saga, och säsong 3 är mycket intressant. Jag ska inte spoil.
Jag är glad att jag behöver inte undertextar nu. Kanske behöver jag undertextar mer med danska....  ::)
(också jag skev inte "er" här \o/)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Taskuhecate on November 18, 2015, 07:35:01 AM
Jag vill också skype:a!!   Jag har en konstig tidsschema bara.

Jag tittar också på Bron men har inte sett all av den första säsongen.   Har du sett Beck?

När jag vill höra men inte “pay attention” så tittar jag på Pokemon på svenska eller nåt annat barnprogram.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on November 18, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
Sååå... det har varit en lång tid sedan nån har skrivit nåt härinne... Vad gör ni alla? Har ni det bra?

Är nån fortfarande intresserad av ha samtal på Skype? :D

I still can't speak/write swedish, and only if I read I understand mostly, but maybe I'd be interested to join.....
if you can randomly teach me, help with pronouncing maybe? or something?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on November 18, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
if you can randomly teach me, help with pronouncing maybe? or something?

Yes! Of course we can! \o/
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Talvis on November 19, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
Hello! This is kind of embarassing since this is the first thing I say here, but could anyone fluent in Swedish spare a few minutes? I have written a short semi-essey for my Swedish class and my mark will rise if there are no mistakes... I have to return it tomorrow (or maybe Monday if I get lucky) but I'm not quite sure if the grammar is right. Being the huge SSSS fan I am, I wrote it as Emil... Yeah, I know I'm weird. But I just thought that maybe someone could read it and tell me if there are mistakes?
 
Here it is:

Hej, jag är Emil Västerström, men jag inte är en idiot, fast Kalle inte tyckar om mig. Men jag kan säg att jag inte tyckar om Kalle. Han är utmanande och verkligen lång fast han inte är äldre än jag.

Jag är svensk följaktligen jag inte är vulgär. Och jag är anspråkslös fast jag har vackra hår.

Jag talar bara svenska eftersom jag inte lära sig språk. Jag vill lära finska eftersom jag vill förstå Lalli fast han inte talar mycket.

Jag är grandios eftersom jag har kompisar vilka inte är svensk. Mikkel är en dansk men han inte är liten. Sigrun är en norrman men hon inte fiskar. Hon jagar troll. Lalli and Tuuri är finländarna men de inte är lika. Tuuri är pigg och smart fast hon inte bevisar det väl men Lalli inte talar svenska. Han är tyst, bisarr och lynning. Men när vi inte kämpa med troll utan vi bara trillbringa ihop vi har trevlig. Fast vi inte prator Lalli är min bäst kompis.


//okay, so I moved this over here~
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on November 19, 2015, 01:40:16 PM
Hello! This is kind of embarassing since this is the first thing I say here, but could anyone fluent in Swedish spare a few minutes? I have written a short semi-essey for my Swedish class and my mark will rise if there are no mistakes... I have to return it tomorrow (or maybe Monday if I get lucky) but I'm not quite sure if the grammar is right. Being the huge SSSS fan I am, I wrote it as Emil... Yeah, I know I'm weird. But I just thought that maybe someone could read it and tell me if there are mistakes?

Hej, LunaJei!

Välkommen till forumet! Om du vill, får du introducera dig själv i vår introduktionthread (jag känner inte andra ord för den här...) \o/

Jag kan försöka rätta din text, men nån annan bör kontrollera det också, eftersom jag inte pratar helt flytande svenska.  :D

Quote
Hej, jag är Emil Västerström, men jag är inte en idiot, fast Kalle inte tycker om mig. Men jag kan säga att jag inte tycker om Kalle. Han är utmanande och verkligen lång fast han inte är äldre än jag.

Jag är svensk följaktligen är jag inte vulgär. Och jag är anspråkslös fast jag har vackra hår.

Jag talar bara svenska eftersom jag inte lär mig (några/andra?) språk. Jag vill lära finska eftersom jag vill förstå Lalli fast han inte talar mycket.

Jag är grandios eftersom jag har kompisar vilka inte är svensk. Mikkel är en dansk men han är inte liten. Sigrun är en norrman men hon fiskar inte. Hon jagar troll. Lalli och Tuuri är finländare men de är inte lika. Tuuri är pigg och smart fast hon visar det inte väl men ("medan" kanske låter bättre istället för "men"?) Lalli talar inte svenska. Han är tyst, bisarr och lynning(??). Men när vi inte kämpa med troll utan vi bara trillbringar tid tillsammans, har vi trevlig(??, jag tycker inte att det här är en svensk fras. Vad ville du säga?). Fast vi inte pratar är Lalli min bästa kompis.


Fråga igen om nåt inte är klart. :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on November 19, 2015, 03:18:35 PM
Hello! This is kind of embarassing since this is the first thing I say here, but could anyone fluent in Swedish spare a few minutes? I have written a short semi-essey for my Swedish class and my mark will rise if there are no mistakes... I have to return it tomorrow (or maybe Monday if I get lucky) but I'm not quite sure if the grammar is right. Being the huge SSSS fan I am, I wrote it as Emil... Yeah, I know I'm weird. But I just thought that maybe someone could read it and tell me if there are mistakes?
Hej och välkommen! :D

Jag kan också gå igenom din text om du vill :)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Talvis on November 19, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
Ryagami, Thank you so much, you were a great help! I'm sorry I can't answer in Swedish, as you may have noticed, my Swedish is really lacking. But you really made my understand some things and now I think I'll be fine with that class. . (I'll do the introduction thing tomorrow, now I just want to sleep...eheh.)

And AquaAurion, I would be thankful if you wanted to help. :) I made some changes to the text, here it is now:

Hej, jag är Emil Västerström, om jag inte är en idiot, som Kalle säger. Jag är häftig fast Kalle inte tycker om mig. Men jag kan säg att jag inte tycker om Kalle. Han är utmanande och verkligen lång fast han inte är äldre än jag.

Jag är svensk eftersom jag inte är vulgär. Och jag är anspråkslös fast jag har vackra hår.

Jag talar bara svenska eftersom jag inte lär några språk. Jag vill lära finska eftersom jag vill förstå Lalli fast han inte talar mycket.

Jag är grandios eftersom jag har kompisar vilka inte är svensk. Mikkel är en dansk fast han inte är liten. Sigrun är en norrman fast hon inte fiskar. Hon jagar troll. Lalli och Tuuri är finländare fast de inte är lika. Tuuri är pigg och smart fast hon inte visar det väl. Lalli pratar inte när han inte önskar. Han kan inte tala svenska. Han är tyst, bisarr och lynnig. Men när vi inte kämpa med troll utan vi bara trillbringa ihop det är trevlig. Fast vi inte pratar är Lalli min bäst kompis.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on November 19, 2015, 03:37:44 PM
Here's my feedback :)
Ryagami, Thank you so much, you were a great help! I'm sorry I can't answer in Swedish, as you may have noticed, my Swedish is really lacking. But you really made my understand some things and now I think I'll be fine with that class. . (I'll do the introduction thing tomorrow, now I just want to sleep...eheh.)

And AquaAurion, I would be thankful if you wanted to help. :) I made some changes to the text, here it is now:

Hej, jag heter Emil Västerström och jag är inte en idiot, som Kalle säger. [You can use "om jag inte är en idiot, som Kalle säger", it depends on what you want to say. It means that "I'm Emil, unless I'm an idiot, like Kalle says"] Jag är häftig även om Kalle inte tycker om mig. Men jag kan säga att jag inte tycker om Kalle. Han är utmanande och väldigt lång, fast han inte är äldre än jag.

Eftersom jag är svensk  är jag inte vulgär. [I believe you intend to say "Because I'm Swedish, I'm not vulgar", if not so, please tell me what you want to say :)] Och jag är anspråkslös fast jag har vackert hår.

Jag talar bara svenska, eftersom jag inte lärt mig några andra språk. Jag vill lära mig finska, eftersom jag vill förstå Lalli trots att han inte pratar mycket.

Jag är grandios [this sounds rather odd since the word isn't really used] eftersom jag har kompisar som inte är svenska. Mikkel är en dansk fast han inte är liten. Sigrun är en norrman fast hon inte fiskar. Hon jagar troll istället. Lalli och Tuuri är finländare fast de inte är lika. Tuuri är pigg och smart även om hon inte visar det väl. Lalli pratar inte när han inte önskar. Han kan inte tala svenska. Han är tyst, bisarr och lynnig. Men när vi inte kämpar mot troll, utan vi bara trillbringar tid ihop det är trevlig. Även om vi inte pratar är Lalli min bästa kompis.

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Talvis on November 20, 2015, 12:29:41 AM
Thank you so much! :D I really appreciate this! If you ever happen to need any help with some Finnish, I would be clad to return the favor~
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on November 20, 2015, 04:49:12 AM
Thank you so much! :D I really appreciate this! If you ever happen to need any help with some Finnish, I would be clad to return the favor~
You're welcome :D


I'm wondering about the rest of you, do you want me to go in and "correct" your Swedish when you write here? I don't want to be rude, but at the same time I know a lot of you want to learn so I'm unsure of what to do ^^
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: viola on November 20, 2015, 09:27:20 AM
You're welcome :D


I'm wondering about the rest of you, do you want me to go in and "correct" your Swedish when you write here? I don't want to be rude, but at the same time I know a lot of you want to learn so I'm unsure of what to do ^^

I am fine with you correcting anything I write. I think rya told me I accidently used some Icelandic words last time I said something in swedish oops :P
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on November 20, 2015, 10:16:45 AM
You're welcome :D


I'm wondering about the rest of you, do you want me to go in and "correct" your Swedish when you write here? I don't want to be rude, but at the same time I know a lot of you want to learn so I'm unsure of what to do ^^

Jajaja! Definitivt! \o/ (Om det inte är ett problem...)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: viola on November 20, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
You know you've done too much swedish when you see the word "internet" and you read it as "the intern"  ::)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on November 23, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
I am fine with you correcting anything I write. I think rya told me I accidently used some Icelandic words last time I said something in swedish oops :P
Jajaja! Definitivt! \o/ (Om det inte är ett problem...)

Tack, då vet jag! :D
Jag kanske vågar skriva lite mer här nu då... :P
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Oxi on December 29, 2015, 02:32:50 PM
:sweden: hej alla! jag startade lära svenska ett par veckor sedan, på Duolingo! Jag också använder lite av Google Translate och Wiktionary (för specifika ord).

:uk: Hey everyone! I started learning Swedish a couple weeks ago on Duolingo! I am also using a little of Google Translate and Wiktionary (for particular words).

(I know Google Translate is bad, but it sometimes points me in the right way :p)
Also, please do feel free to correct any of my mistakes! And if anyone wants to add me on Skype or Steam or whatever and practice with me, that's alright too, just ask! :D
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on December 29, 2015, 09:05:22 PM
(I know Google Translate is bad, but it sometimes points me in the right way :p)
google translate is kind of good one word between english and any other language, however it is horrible for sentences. if you speak a minimal level of the language, you can use it, I use it almost every day between hungarian-english. whenever I need for swedish, I translate between english-swedish, never hungarian-swedish. it could cause huge confusing in that case.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on January 08, 2016, 05:48:08 AM
:sweden: Hej alla! Jag började lära mig svenska för ett par veckor sedan på Duolingo! Jag använder mig också lite av Google Translate och Wiktionary (för specifika ord).
Hej och välkommen! :D

Your written Swedish is really good for just a few weeks of studying! :) I made some edits to your text if that is okay ^w^
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Synthpopalooza on January 24, 2016, 12:58:33 PM
:sweden: hej alla! jag startade lära svenska ett par veckor sedan, på Duolingo! Jag också använder lite av Google Translate och Wiktionary (för specifika ord).

:uk: Hey everyone! I started learning Swedish a couple weeks ago on Duolingo! I am also using a little of Google Translate and Wiktionary (for particular words).

Hej och Välkommen!  Du talar svenska mycket bra, för en nybörjare!  Mycket bra jobb!

I have been learning on Duolingo for about a year now and have made a lot of progress.  My main stumbling block right now is vocabulary, and understanding spoken Swedish.  But I am a lot better on pronunciation.  I can even do that pitch accent sometimes. :)

I have also a basic knowledge of Spanish.  Been trying to work on that too, although sometimes it creates a blended language I call Svenspañol! LOL ... like when you use Swedish articles on Spanish sentences (Yo quiero en taco) or the wrong prepositions (Jag bor en Sverige) or use the wrong pronoun (Yo talar svenska) ... or wrong verb (Yo quiero talar sueco!) ... it gets hilarious.  Que es problemen? :)

I am not fluent in Svenska, but I can give some tips.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ryagami on January 24, 2016, 01:39:06 PM
Hej och Välkommen!  Du talar svenska mycket bra, för en nybörjare!  Mycket bra jobb!

I have been learning on Duolingo for about a year now and have made a lot of progress.  My main stumbling block right now is vocabulary, and understanding spoken Swedish.  But I am a lot better on pronunciation.  I can even do that pitch accent sometimes. :)

I have also a basic knowledge of Spanish.  Been trying to work on that too, although sometimes it creates a blended language I call Svenspañol! LOL ... like when you use Swedish articles on Spanish sentences (Yo quiero en taco) or the wrong prepositions (Jag bor en Sverige) or use the wrong pronoun (Yo talar svenska) ... or wrong verb (Yo quiero talar sueco!) ... it gets hilarious.  Que es problemen? :)

I am not fluent in Svenska, but I can give some tips.

Jag gjorde det alltid när jag började lära mig italienska och försökte byta tillbaka till svenska... "Io kan inte parlare bara svenska adesso" osv. x)

Jag vill också alltid använda Memrise för att lära mig mer ord, men alla kurserna börja med några enkla och bekanta ord, så det tråkar ut mig.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Synthpopalooza on January 24, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
Jag vet två webplattser för att lära sig ordförråd.

http://www.learnwitholiver.com ... it is free, but has lots of great vocabulary building exercises.  Jag använder det mycket!

http://www.babadum.com ... is a nice little web game for learning more vocabulary.  Covers 17 languages including svenska.
Title: Finland-Swedish?
Post by: Sc0ut on January 28, 2016, 10:09:53 AM
Can someone point me to some examples of how the Swedish spoken in Finland sounds? I'm curious about its differences vs Sweden-Swedish.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: ruth on January 28, 2016, 01:06:54 PM
Here's a good example of André Wickström (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mFBmlePSnw), a Finland-Swedish comedian.
Title: Re: Finland-Swedish?
Post by: AquaAurion on January 28, 2016, 01:45:38 PM
Can someone point me to some examples of how the Swedish spoken in Finland sounds? I'm curious about its differences vs Sweden-Swedish.

For me the typical finlandssvensk is Mark Levengood, so here's a video of him and two Sweden-swedes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355iqDE9-PM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355iqDE9-PM)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Sc0ut on January 28, 2016, 02:24:12 PM
Oh nice! Thank you both :D AquaAurion, thank you for finding a video which shows it with together with Sweden-swedish. I can hear some differences (the intonation doesn't go up and down so much and some of the vowels are different?), but I'm not sure how much of that is due to just differences between individuals. It is a good start nonetheless.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Pupunen on January 28, 2016, 03:14:48 PM
Since finlandssvenska is also known as "muminsvenska", here's a link to a Moomins episode in Swedish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G506jtSEzv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G506jtSEzv8)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on January 28, 2016, 03:23:42 PM
Oh nice! Thank you both :D AquaAurion, thank you for finding a video which shows it with together with Sweden-swedish. I can hear some differences (the intonation doesn't go up and down so much and some of the vowels are different?), but I'm not sure how much of that is due to just differences between individuals. It is a good start nonetheless.
You're welcome! I'd also say that the intonation is the main difference

Since finlandssvenska is also known as "muminsvenska", here's a link to a Moomins episode in Swedish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G506jtSEzv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G506jtSEzv8)
Ah, my childhood <3
Title: Re: Finland-Swedish?
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on January 28, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
Can someone point me to some examples of how the Swedish spoken in Finland sounds? I'm curious about its differences vs Sweden-Swedish.

I was told that I have finnish-swede accent, when I read swedish out loud to a swedish person


----------------

I know there is a duolingo board, but anyone use it? who learns swedish or speaks swedish? I need friends there.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Aprillen on February 08, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
För den som vill lära sig svenska lite mer seriöst snubblade jag just över den här sidan: http://learningswedish.se/courses/1

(A free online course in Swedish, run by the Swedish Institute, for those who want to learn Swedish more earnestly.)
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Ix on April 21, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
Hello! I mentioned in my Intro post that I've been trying to learn Swedish - I actually just for the first time went on Duolingo five minutes ago. Would anybody who's more experienced with the language have any pointers or tips for me when it comes to speaking it, writing it, understanding it, etc? I'd really appreciate some help, since I have some problems with remembering words, pronouncing them (even in English, my first language! My family likes to poke fun at me for it, heh), and keeping track of different terms and such.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: AquaAurion on April 25, 2016, 06:14:28 AM
Hello! I mentioned in my Intro post that I've been trying to learn Swedish - I actually just for the first time went on Duolingo five minutes ago. Would anybody who's more experienced with the language have any pointers or tips for me when it comes to speaking it, writing it, understanding it, etc? I'd really appreciate some help, since I have some problems with remembering words, pronouncing them (even in English, my first language! My family likes to poke fun at me for it, heh), and keeping track of different terms and such.
For remembering I personally use anki (http://ankisrs.net/). It's a flash card application (I use it for Japanese) and there's often pre-made decks that you can import. If you're lucky there might be ones with an audio of the pronounciation.
Title: Re: Finland-Swedish?
Post by: Taskuhecate on May 05, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
I was told that I have finnish-swede accent, when I read swedish out loud to a swedish person

Svenskar säger detsamma till mig.  XD  Jag lärde mig svenska i Finland, vid Åbo Akademi - så säger jag saker som "roskis" och "auto" och ibland "allena".  Jag använder också "vid" istället för "på" - till exempel "vid Åbo Akademi".  Nåt sådär.  :3

Menmen - har ni fortfarande en svensk grupp?  Om ni har den så vill jag komma med!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Uinuvien on May 09, 2016, 02:24:00 PM
I had Swedish at school for years. I almost failed and passed only because the teacher didn't want to see my face again (yes, I was that much of an hopeless student). Now I don't remember anything from school-Swedish. My current Swedish skills come from few places:
1) Living in small bilingual towns (Finnish&Swedish) for majority of my life.
2) Using bastardized Swedish with my family (Smör mamma, julsex kommer tillbaka).
3) Duolingo.

I really like how Swedish sounds, it's like singing, and I want to learn it, but it's hard and my motivation have crumbled. I haven't even opened Duolingo for months...

Edit. When listening to spoken Swedish, I often understand what has been said or at least what was the topic. I still can't talk much myself, but I'm getting there. Slowly...
Title: Can anyone give me a good "bad Sweedish" joke?
Post by: Kin on August 27, 2016, 04:32:55 PM
Ok - I have a character in a story of mine that knows all of two words in Swedish.  (hello or good day)  He has a strong hillbilly accent and I want to include a miss-pronunciation joke.  So far what I got is:

Lyman turned to greet the visitor and said "Good dog!"  His supply of Swedish thus exhausted he waved his assistant Franklin over to translate.
Title: Re: Can anyone give me a good "bad Sweedish" joke?
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on August 27, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
okay, maybe not good, and only hetalians can get this: http://fragasverige.tumblr.com/post/39045794662/

I had some other, why I can't remember any rn?
Title: Re: Can anyone give me a good "bad Sweedish" joke?
Post by: Basse on August 27, 2016, 10:05:00 PM
So are you looking for jokes that's only about Hello and Good day?
Title: Re: Can anyone give me a good "bad Sweedish" joke?
Post by: Kin on August 28, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
My character has learned one phrase in Swedish - and its some variation on "polite greeting".  The person he is greeting is a Master Painter if that helps?  "God dag" makes a funny miss-pronunciation joke in English as "good dog", is there a phrase he can mangle to be funny in SWEDISH?  Or is the mistake already funny on its own?

Thank you for the help!
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Gaemmel on April 29, 2017, 06:22:34 AM
I don't know if I am even allowed to post in here, since, old thread and stuff, but I just have to ask: Is there noone around learning Swedish anymore?

Because I have been practicing Swedish via duolingo and memrise for half a year now, and I am at a level now where I would greatly benefit from talking to Swedish people/people who learn Swedish as well.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Prizrachniy_Gek on May 06, 2017, 08:36:23 AM
Hej!
I learn Swedish with a textbook, entry level, but I need a person who would say if I'm doing the exercises correctly and maybe in listening? I also tried to duolingo and memrise, but it did not give knowledge.
This discussion is old, but maybe someone can help?
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: owlfeather on May 10, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Oh, oh me! Pick me! I'm looking at teaching in an international school within the next few years, and I've just begun my journey of learning Swedish. If any fluent speakers would like to help me out through chatting via Skype or Discord, please let me know! I teach English Language Arts (and science, but, you know) and I hope I'm a fair learner... But I suppose we'll see how it goes.

Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Gaemmel on May 17, 2017, 05:01:04 AM
So, a few people, either here or via message have contacted me that they would like to practice Swedish as well.

There were two suggestions for how to go about it, since no Swede has written to me yet:

1) It was suggested we use the Swedish language channel in the ssss discord to talk to each other.

2) The other idea was that we pick partners and write each other Swedish messages, in order to get into any form of writing Swedish more often.

Personally, I would like to try both. I can't promise how often I will be on discord, but talking to you guys sounds fun, too!
Title: Swedish media subbed in English?
Post by: Sc0ut on July 20, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
(I wanted to post this in the Swedish language thread but it's been dead for over a year and the forum threw a 405 error at me when I tried)

Anyway, I wanna get back to learning Swedish, and for this purpose, I'd like to watch media in Swedish, subbed in English. Ideally, something that can be watched online for free ;D Any recommendations? I'm down for TV series, cartoons, movies, documentaries, stand-up, pretty much anything that is somewhat interesting and (most importantly) subbed. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Swedish media subbed in English?
Post by: P__ on July 20, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
I know you can find news in simple Swedish at svt.tv (nyheter på lätt svenska; about 5 mins of it every weekday). They aren't subtitled in English anymore, just Swedish, but it could be worth trying anyway.

I too would like to find more Swedish media available to people with insufficient Swedish skill ;)
Title: Re: Can anyone give me a good "bad Sweedish" joke?
Post by: Suominoita on August 13, 2020, 02:58:14 AM
Maybe if the painter liked cheese, particularly gouda.
Title: Re: Swedish language group
Post by: Foshadowfax on April 12, 2021, 01:32:48 PM
Anyone interested in working through the From English to Swedish books? On video practicing speaking chapter to chapter?