Post by: Hrollo on November 25, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
But who are the equivalent for Norway, Finland and Iceland, I'm currious?
Post by: kjeks on November 25, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
So, caricaturing, the great classic director of Sweden is Ingmar Bergman, and the great classic director of Denmark is Carl Theodor Dreyer.
But who are the equivalent for Norway, Finland and Iceland, I'm currious?
Could list some films, please? Asking google/ecosia never brings as good results as someone who has seen the movies.
Post by: Hrollo on November 26, 2014, 05:54:57 AM
He's often seen as a very artsy and intellectual director, partly because of the existentialist themes that permeate most of his movies, but in fact a movie like The Seventh Seal is short, entertaining, and was never envisaged as high art when it was directed. In any case, he's considered a very influential director, and got numerous praised by directors as diverse as Scorcese, Coppola, Woody Allen, Kubrick, Almodovar, Tarkovsky or Spielberg.
Carl Theodor Dreyer was less prolific, directing only 14 films, often in countries other than Denmark, and mostly in the silent era —but he did make a few sound films that are often highly regarded among film-buffs, notably Vampyr and The Word/Ordet.
Post by: Pessi on November 26, 2014, 06:22:04 AM
Post by: Hrollo on November 26, 2014, 08:00:38 AM
Post by: Pessi on November 26, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
I guess Valentin Vaala could be called a "classic" if it's defined as "old" combined with "well known and appreciated". He directed over 40 films between the 20's and 60's and was considered rather modern, at least in the beginning of his career.
But Kaurismäki is actually the real "classic" if it's defined as who is seen as a kind of embodiment of Finnish film. There's even an adjective, "kaurismäkeläinen", kaurismäki-ish, which can be used to describe something stern, ascetic and grim.
Edit: I asked my mother's opinion on this and she said that well yes, Vaala was quite well known, but he made mostly light and funny stuff. If we are talking about people of the same calibre as Ingmar Bergman, then the Finnish equivalent would be Nyrki Tapiovaara.
Now I had never even heard of Tapiovaara, but it seems my mother is right. Tapiovaara's career was short, he died aged only 29 (WWII took it's toll), but according to web resouces he is still seen as one of the best Finnish directors. He only had time for five movies during his life and the last one was left unfinished, but it seems many stylized parts of his movie Varastettu kuolema (Stolen Death) are officially considered "classics of the Finnish movie history".
Post by: Hrollo on November 27, 2014, 07:57:02 AM
Post by: Pessi on November 28, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
Post by: Eich on November 29, 2014, 06:58:00 PM
If you have anything in particular that you want to say about a show or a movie, there's now a super-sparkly-shiny new place to do it! *Gestures to general surrounding area*
I've been watching Arrow all day with my mom. We watched season 1 last year, but season 2 is turning her into a casual comic book geek. She's actually been reading the DC wiki between episodes! I'm so proud of her.
Post by: kjeks on November 29, 2014, 07:01:50 PM
Post by: Eich on November 29, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Hmmm, so it is not The general Discussion Thread where the mystery of Mikkel Madsen and Mads Mikkelsen should be solved? ;).I'm not sure. *Appears innocent*
Also, I was typing that post over the last two or three hours, between episodes of Arrow, so I didn't realize y'all were talking about movies over there! XD *Continues appearing innocent*
Post by: kjeks on November 29, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
I'm not sure. *Appears innocent*
Also, I was typing that post over the last two or three hours, between episodes of Arrow, so I didn't realize y'all were talking about movies over there! XD *Continues appearing innocent*
I have never watched arrow, because I had no access to original audio track. Last series featering real people was "Supernatural", I think. Though after the third season I felt like I did with Dr. House. After that many episodes storylines seem to turn out repetitive in a way.
So what is arrow about and why is it catching?
Post by: OrigamiOwl on November 29, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
(Don't judge meeeeeeee)
- AtLA when it was on, nearly a decade ago ;__;
- Midsummer Murders
- Poirot
- Miss Marple
- Jonathan Creek
- Dr Who, more out of tradition than enjoyment lately
- Sherlock (I only really like the Hound one because of the moors shhh)
- Landline U////U because I'm a dork
- Mythbusters
- very rarely Supernatural, I got tired after the first few seasons
- Ancient History/Location documentaries
- Horrible Histories with my sister
- Getaway
- News
- Gravity Falls (via internet because it doesn't air here)
- Friends. Maybe. Will it never stop being rerun?!?!
They were advertising Arrow hammer and tongs last year, and then when it finally aired a millennium later it wasn't that interesting because we'd all been put off by the bombarding ads :/ My family don't watch a lot of dark tv shows, which are mostly American here. I used to like the Mentalist and Bones and Dexter and wanted to check out Gotham but I'm not allowed to watch them ;__;
The only US shows my mum will watch are Agents of SHEILD and Star Trek reruns X'D
Post by: Oskutin on November 29, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Vikings
The few series i bother watching.
Post by: OrigamiOwl on November 29, 2014, 07:51:42 PM
Game of ThronesOoooh! We got to watch the opening titles as part of an assignment brief last semester and they looked great. Or, at least the title sequences did. *loves a good title sequence*
Vikings
The few series i bother watching.
Post by: Lars_B on November 29, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Both cool shows although they have seriously misrepresented the Nordic geography! Danish fjords and Mountains around Uppsala... ::) but it is a bit more visually appealing than reality I guess.
Post by: Eich on November 29, 2014, 09:10:44 PM
I have never watched arrow, because I had no access to original audio track. Last series featering real people was "Supernatural", I think. Though after the third season I felt like I did with Dr. House. After that many episodes storylines seem to turn out repetitive in a way.It's about the DC comic book hero "Green Arrow." It's got a lot of poorly-executed drama, but most of it is really good action and comic book fun. The first episode of season two was teeeeerible, but it got good again very quickly, and we've marathoned through half of the season today... Just... ignore all the stuff with the relationships and it's a good show.
So what is arrow about and why is it catching?
My friend watched supernatural past year, and said the show was canceled a way in, but the two brothers in the show kept it going and directed the show. Those seasons are supposed to be very different.
Post by: kjeks on November 30, 2014, 03:34:40 AM
It's about the DC comic book hero "Green Arrow." It's got a lot of poorly-executed drama, but most of it is really good action and comic book fun. The first episode of season two was teeeeerible, but it got good again very quickly, and we've marathoned through half of the season today... Just... ignore all the stuff with the relationships and it's a good show.
My friend watched supernatural past year, and said the show was canceled a way in, but the two brothers in the show kept it going and directed the show. Those seasons are supposed to be very different.
Arrow sounds interesting, maybe I should try to get a glimpse at least at two or three episodes.
If Supernatural has worn out, they should leave it at that, but hey, maybe what they are doing now is better. In ten years, when Seasons will be available for less money, I shall take a look at those again.
Fimbulvarg and me agreed that the Game of thrones series is not that good if you read the books. In my oppinion especially season three and four (which only cover the third book) are really weak in comparison, because many charakters have been really flatened in their interaction. If you never read the books, the first two seasons might be nice.
The last series that really got me was "Monster" though I was never able to watch it on TV. It's a great Japanese Animeseries playing in Germany during the time when the GDR still existed, though that is not the core. It deals with some moral questions about good and evil, if you are allowed to take a life if it would save many others and whether some conditions of growing up are releasing people out of responsibility for there deeds. It is rather dark.
Post by: Eich on November 30, 2014, 11:05:13 AM
Arrow sounds interesting, maybe I should try to get a glimpse at least at two or three episodes.Oh, I know about Monster. I've been meaning to watch it for about a year now, but I remember being quite interested in it.
If Supernatural has worn out, they should leave it at that, but hey, maybe what they are doing now is better. In ten years, when Seasons will be available for less money, I shall take a look at those again.
Fimbulvarg and me agreed that the Game of thrones series is not that good if you read the books. In my oppinion especially season three and four (which only cover the third book) are really weak in comparison, because many charakters have been really flatened in their interaction. If you never read the books, the first two seasons might be nice.
The last series that really got me was "Monster" though I was never able to watch it on TV. It's a great Japanese Animeseries playing in Germany during the time when the GDR still existed, though that is not the core. It deals with some moral questions about good and evil, if you are allowed to take a life if it would save many others and whether some conditions of growing up are releasing people out of responsibility for there deeds. It is rather dark.
Post by: Esko Oksanen on December 08, 2014, 12:26:28 AM
No?
Okay...
*absconds*
Post by: Solovei on December 08, 2014, 01:35:27 PM
Hmmm, so it is not The general Discussion Thread where the mystery of Mikkel Madsen and Mads Mikkelsen should be solved? ;).Hannibal really let himself go in later years...
Post by: OrigamiOwl on December 08, 2014, 06:02:24 PM
Does anybody else here enjoy Adventure time?Awwww I do! *spaghetti arms*
No?
Okay...
*absconds*
Post by: hushpiper on December 08, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
Does anybody else here enjoy Adventure time?
No?
Okay...
*absconds*
YES
Best. Cartoon.
Post by: Esko Oksanen on December 08, 2014, 07:08:24 PM
Awwww I do! *spaghetti arms*
AWW YISSS *more spaghetti arms*
Post by: Esko Oksanen on December 08, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
YES
Best. Cartoon.
I LOVE IT! My old Dungeons & Dragons group played an entire campaign I made based on the Adventure Time world and let me tell you it was ONE. HELL. OF AN ADVENTURE.
Post by: Eich on December 23, 2014, 08:22:53 PM
Post by: Solokov on December 23, 2014, 09:09:50 PM
Does anybody else here enjoy Adventure time?
No?
Okay...
*absconds*
No because who would like a nonsensical show about postapocolyptia?....
I do, that's who....
Anyway. I don't have cable anymore so what I watch is what I can hunt down on the internet or already have.
So the short list is:
Adventure Time
Stargate SG1 and Atlantis (which reminds me I need to watch SG:U at some point)
Game of thrones
Freeman's Mind (machinima series on youtube)
Venture Bros
Mythbusters
Farscape
Dr. Who
Post by: Esko Oksanen on December 24, 2014, 06:38:17 PM
Gah!
No because who would like a nonsensical show about postapocolyptia?....
I do, that's who....
Anyway. I don't have cable anymore so what I watch is what I can hunt down on the internet or already have.
So the short list is:
Adventure Time
Stargate SG1 and Atlantis (which reminds me I need to watch SG:U at some point)
Game of thrones
Freeman's Mind (machinima series on youtube)
Venture Bros
Mythbusters
Farscape
Dr. Who
I need to re-watch all of those from beginning to end/latest content!!!
Post by: Ceceoh on December 27, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
Post by: Nimphy on December 27, 2014, 07:07:20 PM
Anyone else feeling a little verklempt over watching the last installment of The Hobbit trilogy? 14 years of muddling around Middle Earth with 2 generations of hobbits is a pretty big commitment! Seriously though, even if I didn't agree with all of Peter Jackson's choices, I admire the passion he put into bringing the four books to life, and the gorgeous worlds he let us explore. I'm a little sad that it is all over.
Honestly, I've never seen such a disappointing movie. And I haven't even finished reading the book, because I'm pretty sure I'd have liked it even less if I had. I'm not saying that it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen, but after waiting three years and two preceding films... Well, it was disappointing to say the least. I'd have expected more. Boring, slow, too many battles (action scenes are good, too many action scenes are pointless and bad), lots of confusion and character development happened in about thirty seconds.
That said, I'm sure I'll miss the journeys in Middle Earth, too. Oh well, time to finish that book!
Post by: Deirdre on December 28, 2014, 01:51:10 AM
Post by: Solovei on December 28, 2014, 01:58:17 AM
I agree with Nimphy when it comes to the third The Hobbit movie, though I'm not really disappointed. I just from the beginning had a feeling it's not going to be a good film, didn't enjoy the previous two (far too much computer-based stuff, I'm sad they didn't continue the semi-realism from the LotR films), and as here the three things I didn't like: action scenes, romance (wut?) and drama were to intensify, I went to the cinema with low expectations. Also, I'm on a daily basis surrounded by hardcore Tolkienists, whose reactions range from absolute fury to quiet sobbing in the corner. It makes not liking the film relatively easy :P
I too had pretty low expecations going in and the movie satisfied those low expectations.
Mostly I just wanted to see Thranduil being a diva and it delivered on that front, so.
Post by: Eich on December 28, 2014, 02:30:55 AM
My family went to see it though, and they hated it too. My brother-in-law was upset because he thought it was really inconsistent with the book but, after he got back home, he scanned through the end of the book and saw it was actually nearly the exact same as the move. Then he started explaining the silmarillion (spelling? not even gonna try.) to us. I haven't read any of Tolkien's work, but if I do, I'll read that one. He described it as the "Old Testament" of Tolkien's lore and, while it sounds dry, it also sounds bizarrely entertaining.
Oh, and I've been watching loads of "Once Upon A Time" with my mom and brother this week. That show is the most unusual... Cheesy... Load of... But I like it. :/ It's fun to watch the characters, more than anything.
Post by: ruth on December 28, 2014, 09:23:59 AM
- utopia
- black mirror
- orphan black
- vikings
- äkta människor (real humans)
- wallander (sv)
- the good wife
most of them are still coming out with episodes (other than wallander and utopia), so i'm on the edge of my seat waiting for more seasons right now.
Post by: Fenris on December 28, 2014, 11:09:54 AM
Post by: DzigaWatt on December 28, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
Post by: Ceceoh on December 28, 2014, 09:36:49 PM
Post by: Deirdre on December 29, 2014, 03:55:14 PM
- The epic battle was too long, and too loud.
- This movie has the battle in the title...
- It was still too loud. I couldn't sleep.
Well, I guess he didn't like it too much...
But we appreciated the acting (Freeman, Evans, Armitage) and diva-Thranduil. I also liked Lady Galadriel, very canonical. Still, drama overload was reached thanks to the romance and Legolas' mummy issues; there are things hurting me in the original Middle-Earth's chronology, too (Azog, to give a general example, or Legolas'actions after the battle).
And there were sandworms. I still don't like the movie.
Post by: Lenny on December 30, 2014, 07:06:13 AM
Also, I managed to complete my "The Hobbit" cup collection. I now have all three cups from all three movies... hahaha... this one is the most magnificent, it's got Smaug and Bard and Bilbo on the cover. Oh man. That's something else that was so good. Smaug. That animation. That absolutely magnificent animation. *shivers just thinking about it* I am so envious of the people who got to work on that film. I don't suppose I'll ever get the chance to. *sigh* Unless they by some miracle are allowed to adapt the Silmarillion some time in the future. Which would be cool, by the way. That history book... I would like to see what they would do with it.
Post by: Hrollo on December 31, 2014, 08:02:59 PM
Rollo productions present:
The Top 20 films I discovered in 2014
So, in 2014 I have seen 101 new films. By that I don't mean films released in 2014, I mean any film that I had not seen before.
So, how about I make a top 20 of those?
But first, let's see the repartition by decade and by nationality of the movies I have seen!
20s: 7 films
30s: 12 films
40s: 11 films
50s: 20 films
60s: 22 films
70s: 12 films
80s: 7 films
90s: 2 films
2000s: 2 films
2010s: 6 films
US: 30 films
Japan: 23 films
UK: 22 films
France: 16 films
Soviet Union: 3 films
Sweden: 2 films
Denmark: 1 films
Germany: 1 films
China: 1 films
Italy: 1 films
Korea: 1 films
And now, on to the top!
#20: Doctor Zhivago (David Lean, 1965)
David Lean's epic drama doesn't fail to deliver, these 3 hours go on really fast, conveying the uncertainty of individual human existences within a quickly changing and chaotic period of history.
#19: Round Midnight (Bertrand Tavernier, 1986)
Bertrand Tavernier's fictional biopic about a jazz musician inspired by Lester Young and Bud Powell sets itself appart from other jazz biopics (like Clint Eastwood's Bird) by having real jazz musicians instead of professional actors play the different part, and only following a few months at the end of a musician's life, instead of trying to cover his whole history.
The result is a very laid back, very authentic film about jazz, which might not be very accessible for those who do not like the genre, but is a must see for those who do.
#18: The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovski, 1975)
I used to think I didn't like David Lynch's Inland Empire because its plot was absolutely impenetrable. After seeing The Mirror, I now realise an obsfuscating plot is not a problem at all —it's just that Inland Empire looks like crap as a movie, whereas The Mirror, for its obfuscating plot, is an absolutely gorgeous film that every director should see at least once (plus, the plot makes a lot more sense once you realise it's just a series of dreams and memories of a man reflecting back on his life).
#17: Assassination (Masahiro Shinoda, 1964)
A historical film set in Japan during the bakumatsu (a period of heated political conflict and near-civil war during the mid 19th century), but directed in the experimental style of Shinoda, with heavy use of shadows and an eerie soundtrack by Toru Takemitsu, this feels more like a mix of film noir and fantasy than like a historical drama.
#16: Samurai Assassin (Kihachi Okamoto, 1965)
Another historical film set during the bakumatsu (they made a lot of those in the 60s), yet in a completely different style from the previous one, with a more classic, more realistic look (paradoxically with a more fictionalised story), staring Toshiro Mifune in a powerful performance; a film about the extreme cruelty of politics and war.
#15: Pale Flower (Masahiro Shinoda, 1964)
You know what would make Woody Allen's or Federico Fellini's movies a lot better in my opinion? If instead of being about rich idle bourgeois and their cultural life, they were about yakuzas and their night life. This is this movie. This is a dark, psychological drama, but about yakuzas and gamblers, again filmed in the powerful, shadow-heavy style of Shinoda.
#14: Fanny (Marc Allégret, 1932)
This is the second movie in a trilogy of romance-comedy-drama films set in the port of Marseille and adapted from a series of plays by Marcel Pagnol. Although all three movies in the trilogy (which I have seen in its entirerity this year) are really good, I found this one was particularly just in its tone and representation of daily life; it's a film that shows how, in a time period where society had rather rigidly enforced public morals, people will neither completely abide to the rule, but will not outright rebel either, instead finding small arrangements in order to keep living more or less happy.
#13: Stagecoach (John Ford, 1939)
Here's a movie I really didn't expect to like that much. It turns out that, in spite of its clichés and dated tropes, this film remains an example of particularly well mastered storytelling, quickly and seemlessly introducing the premise and the characters, and solving satisfyingly all its plot threads in just under 100 minutes.
#12: High and Low (Akira Kurosawa, 1963)
Kurosawa's films set in contemporary Japan are less well known than his samurai films, and this is a shame, because the former include several noir gems like this intense police procedural drama about cruel choices and revenge.
#11: Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
A quiet Danish drama about religion, directed in a very sober and restrained style and adapted from a play written by a lutheran priest? Yeah, I wasn't really enthusiastic either… It turns out that with extreme attention to detail, very minute pacing, very strong actor performances and overall a sense of strong perfectionism and pertinence, this movie is a delight for anyone who likes classic films.
#10: Ugetsu (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)
A weird tale that navigates between social drama and fantasy, directed in a very fluid, very flowing style, which avoids spectacular effects, instead relying entirely on subtle montage and staging ideas, completely different from the movies of Kurosawa.
#9: The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick, 1998)
Too often there's this idea that mature and realistic, particularly for a war film, means gore, crude and violent. Malick opts for a completely different approch, showing the cruelty, the atrocities and the absurdities of war in a much less voyeuristic maneur, avoiding the oozes of fake blood, instead simply letting things happen. The dialogues are awesome, it's really refreshing to get a war film were the soldiers aren't just stringing cliché line over cliché line, even if this isn't strictly realistic.
#8: Dersu Uzala (Akira Kurosawa, 1975)
A film by Kurosawa directed in the former Soviet Union and produced by Mosfilms. I tend not to like much Kurosawa's latter films, when he started to direct in colors, but this one is a major exception. This is a biographical account about Russian officer and a Siberian hunter at the beginning of the 20th century. It's about friendship, survival and mutual respect, but it's played in a lot more subtle and interesting way than "those kinds of films" usually are.
#7: Arsenic and Old Lace (Frank Capra, 1944)
Not only it was hillarious from beginning to end, but the sudden and frequent direction changes made the movie very interesting —you know you're watching a comedy, but you're never quite sure what kind of comedy you're watching.
#6: The Bad Sleep Well (Akira Kurosawa, 1960)
Another of Kurosawa's contemporary noir films; this one is a rather free adaptation of Hamlet, keeping the general plot ideas but creating an original story with them with its own very dark atmosphere; the film has several very powerful scenes, and lot to say about the corruption of the elites.
#5: Children of Paradise (Marcel Carné, 1945)
A period, romantic-drama set in 19th century Paris; while the historical reconstruction is impressive for the time, and the plot is certainly not bad, although a bit complicated due to the number of main characters, what really carries this film are the delightful dialogues written by French poet Jacques Prévert. The movie is 3 hours long, but I could have easily watched 3 more hours of it just for the dialogues.
#4: A Man Escaped (Robert Bresson, 1956)
We've all seen prison-break drama films. This one, however, is a true story. Set during the occupation of France by the Nazis, this minimalistic film tells a simple but powerful story, without any attempt at romanticising or embelishing the events, but without voyeurism either, avoiding the pitfall of emotional manipulation that is so easy to fall for in these kinds of movie —which doesn't mean the movie is devoided of any emotion either, on the contrary.
#3: Harakiri (Masaki Kobayashi, 1962)
Oh boy, this movie… it starts like it's going to be a quiet drama mostly told retrospectively, a laid back story about honor and resignation, and then, progressively, subtly at first, it goes in a completely different direction… I will not say anything more for fear of spoiling it, but let's just say that if you don't like cruel and twisted stories, you should probably avoid this movie. But otherwise, you're in for quite a ride!
#2: Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
Here's a movie writers should definitely watch: in less than 90 minutes, it introduces a plot device, it explores every possibilities that this device offers, it even manages to subvert it, and still gives us an acceptable ending. Or how to tell the same story four times in an increasingly dark and cynical fashion, while still bringing the audience closure at the end!
#1: Army of Shadows (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1969)
If I had been told in 2013 that one of my favorite movies for 2014 would include a French film about the occupation of France by the Nazis, I would not have believed it… so of course two such films ended up in my favorites of the year.
This one is probably the most realistic film about the French Resistance that exists outthere. Although it is based on fictionalised accounts, both the director and the author of the book it was based on were former members of the Resistance, and so they knew, first hand, what they were talking about.
This is not a happy, heroic film. It's a grim, disjointed story that shows just how desperate the cause of Resistance fighters was, how little hope of success they had, and how they were pretty much terrorists in their time. The film doesn't attack the resistance, it is still sympathetic to it, but it portrays it in an unromantized manner, close to the moral complexity and ambiguity of what resistance movements actually are.
I could write tons of things on this film, it was really an excellent surprise, and I recommend it to everyone who likes classic films or French films.
Post by: Piney on January 01, 2015, 10:07:14 PM
I saw a total of 58 movies in 2014, 44 of which I hadn't seen before - I'll present my ten favorites, in order for the most part:
1. Some Like It Hot (1959) - easily one of my favorite movies now
2. Amélie (2001)
3. Lars and the Real Girl (2007)
4. Spite Marriage (1929) - I just love Buster Keaton so much
5. Beginners (2010)
6. Alien (1979) - (can't believe I hadn't already seen it)
7. Boyhood (2014) - there was a lot of hype around it, but it actually was really good
8. The Babadook (2014) - super creepy and also sad
9. Son of Frankenstein (1939) - I'm just a sucker for old horror movies, really
10. The Fall (2006) ...because Lee Pace is pretty, why else.
Post by: Eich on January 01, 2015, 10:12:00 PM
I'm going to follow Rollo's lead and put use to my "movies I've seen this year" list. :)Some like it hot is fantastic. A lot of those old Monroe movies are.
I saw a total of 58 movies in 2014, 44 of which I hadn't seen before - I'll present my ten favorites, in order for the most part:
1. Some Like It Hot (1959) - easily one of my favorite movies now
2. Amélie (2001)
3. Lars and the Real Girl (2007)
4. Spite Marriage (1929) - I just love Buster Keaton so much
5. Beginners (2010)
6. Alien (1979) - (can't believe I hadn't already seen it)
7. Boyhood (2014) - there was a lot of hype around it, but it actually was really good
8. The Babadook (2014) - super creepy and also sad
9. Son of Frankenstein (1939) - I'm just a sucker for old horror movies, really
10. The Fall (2006) ...because Lee Pace is pretty, why else.
I watched Alien for the first time a couple weeks ago! Really good.
Aside from that, I hardly watched any movies at all. I think the last thing I saw in theatres was... The second Hobbit movie? "Smaug Wakes Up," or something? I don't even bother watching most new stuff because I just don't enjoy movies much anymore. EDIT: Oh, but I did watch "No Country For Old Men." ... ... ... So good. The Coen Bros. are just incredible and I love them.
Post by: Piney on January 01, 2015, 10:23:06 PM
Some like it hot is fantastic. A lot of those old Monroe movies are.
I watched Alien for the first time a couple weeks ago! Really good.
Aside from that, I hardly watched any movies at all. I think the last thing I saw in theatres was... The second Hobbit movie? "Smaug Wakes Up," or something? I don't even bother watching most new stuff because I just don't enjoy movies much anymore. EDIT: Oh, but I did watch "No Country For Old Men." ... ... ... So good. The Coen Bros. are just incredible and I love them.
I almost never watch movies in the theater because I never want to pay for something that I might not even like. Not that I'm ever the one paying for them, but it feel like a waste of time and money if the movie sucks.
Speaking of the Coen brothers, I did see "Inside Llewyn Davis" (the only Coen brothers movie I've seen) last year, which was good in a lot of respects, but I just didn't get it.
Post by: Eich on January 02, 2015, 12:21:23 PM
I almost never watch movies in the theater because I never want to pay for something that I might not even like. Not that I'm ever the one paying for them, but it feel like a waste of time and money if the movie sucks.Exactly. I'm about to go see "The Imitation Game," right now, actually.
Speaking of the Coen brothers, I did see "Inside Llewyn Davis" (the only Coen brothers movie I've seen) last year, which was good in a lot of respects, but I just didn't get it.
I haven't seen that one. They have a weird sense of humor, though. Watch No Country for Old Men, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, or Raising Arizona. Those are three I like the most that they bone.
Just watched Mulan with my brother. That movie is awesome, haha. :D
Post by: Hrollo on January 02, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Post by: Piney on January 02, 2015, 01:24:47 PM
Exactly. I'm about to go see "The Imitation Game," right now, actually.
I haven't seen that one. They have a weird sense of humor, though. Watch No Country for Old Men, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, or Raising Arizona. Those are three I like the most that they bone.
Just watched Mulan with my brother. That movie is awesome, haha. :D
I've seen a small part of O Brother Where Art Thou, didn't know that was the Coen brothers. I didn't really get that one either, but I know my mom's a fan of the movie so I should probably watch it with her. Might like it if I see the whole thing.
Post by: Hrollo on January 02, 2015, 02:41:31 PM
Sunflower > did you get my answer to your pm about movie recommendations?
Post by: Sunflower on January 02, 2015, 03:13:28 PM
Posting that here because…
Sunflower > did you get my answer to your pm about movie recommendations?
I did, and thank you! You have great taste! I look forward to viewing lots of these with my Foreign Movie Club. (Which is one other person, but it's a start.)
Post by: Eich on January 02, 2015, 05:53:13 PM
Pretty good movie, I thought. Not really what I was expecting, from the posters, but pretty good nonetheless.
Post by: Sigrid Marie on January 08, 2015, 03:38:08 AM
Adventure Time is the most awesome cartoon ever! A friend of mine gave me an AT t-shirt for Christmas and I just can't deal. As for movies, I don't really remember which movies I watched this year (bad short-time memory shhh), but I can provide you with a list of my favourite movies c:
Across the Universe (2007)
It's a musical. All the music, without exception, is songs by the Beatles. And to top it all off, the movie is really weird and trippy, which is excactly the kind of movie I like best.
The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)
This is the weirdest musical ever and it's awesome.
Rise of the Guardians (2012) and How to Train Your Dragon (2010)
I love animated films, and these two are my absolute favourites!
Not a very long list, but I'm very easily impressed, so other than these few all the movies I've ever liked just kind of end up being equally good in my head cx I watch a lot of tv-series, though.
Gilmore Girls
The first tv-series I ever fell in love with. I have watched all seven seasons two and a half time. Yeah. I really like it. (Wow, now that I started thinking of it, I really want to watch it again). There are so many reasons why I love this one. It's different than most tv-shows because it's not full of violence or exaggerated drama. It's just really nice and warm and funny c:
Skins
I watched the first two seasons and loved it, but after that it's not quite as good. In season 3 there's a new "generation", so all the characters I loved dissappeared. I still recommend the series, though. Although the third generation sucks. Don't watch that, it's not worth your time.
Sherlock
Y'all know what it's about. Sherlock and John solve mysteries and everyone thinks they're gay and it's fabulous.
Supernatural
I just really really like Castiel
Teen Wolf
Wow the special effects are really bad wow. I basically just watch the show for Stiles (I'm not saying the show is bad. It's just that Stiles is so amazingly dorky and sarcastic and perfect)
And there are probably at least ten more shows that I'm forgetting about but these are my top five (not ecessarily in that order)
Post by: OrigamiOwl on January 08, 2015, 05:23:03 AM
BH6 was visually lovely, the story could've been.....more..and some of the characters needed to be....more.... But overall it was enjoyable.
Into the Woods though...oh my god. I didn't like it at all, and I LOVE musicals and fairy tale satires. The music was nice, but it all sounded the same and got boring very quickly and then after being boring it just got really irritating. (Plus the style of rhyming the songs used rubbed me up the wrong way a bit...so many rhymes in a row...) I think the songs needed some more editing for the silver screen: they were very long, went nowhere, and the actors were very static during their songs, which made them feel like they dragged on for eternity. ;___; and THEN, there were songs that could've been fantastically entertaining if they'd pushed things up a notch eg: the two princes' song on the waterfalls. That could've been hilarious.
I found that a lot of the singing was very in your face at times, especially with Meryl Streep and the two kids. Now, I respect Meryl a lot but...I really don't like her movies? And this one was the worst! I couldn't see her character, I could only see Meryl, dancing around weirdly asking for an acting award....
The one thing I did like (aside from Emily Blunt, she was awesome) was the sets? I really liked how everything looked, but I don't think that the sets were used to their full potential? That's it, I think that's what bugged me throughout the film: there was potential, but it wasn't achieved? Half the dialogue was exposition that we already knew, and, I get that exposition happens a lot in stage plays to fill in stuff that happens off-stage, but in this film it was just clunky and blagh.....
Like, a lot of folks left the theatre?! (A bit rude)
Hmmmm...It was ok, but...nnnnnnnnggghyeh? I wanted it to be really good but it was just ok. :/
Post by: Sigrid Marie on January 08, 2015, 06:01:42 AM
Post by: OrigamiOwl on January 08, 2015, 06:20:07 AM
I haven't seen Into the Woods, but I understand what you mean with the sets. I've worked with scenography for a play before, and as a result I always pay extra attention to that when I'm watching movies and such. It's just incredibly frustrating when the director doesn't understand how to make the best possible use of a beautiful set :CHehehe I do the same thing X'D in animations too I look at the backgrounds and try guessing the frames per second and how many layers and stuff, and then for live action I just think about the set dressing and lighting... That would be such a cool thing to try doing... Set dressing...
My sister is really into musicals, and does lots of local/school productions, so now I appreciate all the choreography and the vocal pecking order and acting n stuff...
One thing I always hear about acting in musicals is "push and exaggerate everything until the director tells you to turn it down" (which can be applied to art too!) and somehow the cast of ITW weren't pushing their roles for the screen as far as they might for the stage? But that might be just me :/
Post by: Sigrid Marie on January 08, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Hehehe I do the same thing X'D in animations too I look at the backgrounds and try guessing the frames per second and how many layers and stuff, and then for live action I just think about the set dressing and lighting... That would be such a cool thing to try doing... Set dressing...
My sister is really into musicals, and does lots of local/school productions, so now I appreciate all the choreography and the vocal pecking order and acting n stuff...
One thing I always hear about acting in musicals is "push and exaggerate everything until the director tells you to turn it down" (which can be applied to art too!) and somehow the cast of ITW weren't pushing their roles for the screen as far as they might for the stage? But that might be just me :/
I haven't heard the term "set dressing" before. Is a set dresser the one who designs the set, or does he/she/they just put everything where it's supposed to be (you know, hanging curtains, moving furniture etc)? I tried both things during that project, and it's super fun and interesting! It's really tiring, though...
I don't know enough about animation to notice stuff like that, but I really wish I did :/
Post by: Varjohaltia on February 07, 2015, 09:59:43 AM
Post by: Armchair Survivalist on February 07, 2015, 10:17:44 AM
From Finland, there's also Edvin Laine's Unknown Soldier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_%281955_film%29).That movie just about explains everything you need to know about the Finnish mentality. Great war movie as well.
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on February 14, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
So come on, folks--there must be more than that!
Post by: Varjohaltia on February 15, 2015, 12:40:30 AM
To start the Norwegian discussion, I'll throw in "Troll Hunter", 2010, written and directed by André Øvredal.
So come on, folks--there must be more than that!
I actually haven't seen that, but I have seen Norwegian Ninja. I'm old enough that the context actually made a lot of sense to me too <.<
Post by: Fimbulvarg on February 15, 2015, 04:59:18 AM
I actually haven't seen that, but I have seen Norwegian Ninja. I'm old enough that the context actually made a lot of sense to me too <.<Is this the one called "Commander Treholt and the Ninja Troop"? Otherwise I haven't heard of it.
Post by: Varjohaltia on February 15, 2015, 08:21:15 AM
Is this the one called "Commander Treholt and the Ninja Troop"? Otherwise I haven't heard of it.
One and the same. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1528769/) It was even subtitled, instead of the usual dubbing, which I dislike.
...I think this his diverged from the thread title quite a bit, though.
Post by: Peraphelion on February 28, 2015, 03:15:23 AM
*returnsawkardsidehugcompletewithhighfive*
Yay! Another kdrama fan! What are your favorites?
Well, I've only watched a handful, but I think my favorite Korean film so far is I'm a Cyborg, But That's Ok, though there was also one that I think was a retelling of beauty and the beast, and I forget the name. The silly thing was, the "beast" wasn't even remotely ugly. Granted, it would be a crime to mess up that guys pretty face, but I don't think the girl actually had a tough time falling for him in his unnoticeable state of disfigurement. And now that I think of that, those are more "Korean romances"... I'm terribly uncultured. XP I'd like to try a couple more films for fun, if you can recommend any?
Post by: Blackjazz on February 28, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
I've mostly watch series, but I can recommend a lot. The titles translate differently depending on which site you watch them on though.
Warning: if you binge-watch/-read/-do anything, beware. They are highly addictive and not usually very long (compared to the average successful American TV show).
Here are my absolute favorites:
My Love From the Star, Coffee Prince, My Fair Lady, Shining Inheritance, Secret Garden, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Gu Family Book, and King 2 Hearts (as you can see, I really like Lee Sung Ki haha). I also loved Jang Bo Ri Is Here, but I'm not gonna lie, the antagonist made me want to rip my hair out.
P.S. Hello Martha!
Post by: Auleliel on March 01, 2015, 02:49:14 AM
Oooh! I haven't seen that before! I'll have to watch it. :DYes, yes, yes!
I've mostly watch series, but I can recommend a lot. The titles translate differently depending on which site you watch them on though.
Warning: if you binge-watch/-read/-do anything, beware. They are highly addictive and not usually very long (compared to the average successful American TV show).
Here are my absolute favorites:
My Love From the Star, Coffee Prince, My Fair Lady, Shining Inheritance, Secret Garden, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Gu Family Book, and King 2 Hearts (as you can see, I really like Lee Sung Ki haha). I also loved Jang Bo Ri Is Here, but I'm not gonna lie, the antagonist made me want to rip my hair out.
P.S. Hello Martha!
Also, if you like Rain, Full House is another great series. :)
Post by: Blackjazz on March 01, 2015, 12:26:59 PM
Full House was actually one of the first ones I watched! I really liked it, but it's not one of my favorites because I thought that guy was a jerk for a really long time.
....
I wrote a lot more, but I'll just leave it at that since this is the introduction thread. Hah.
Post by: Ceceoh on March 01, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
Post by: Lenny on March 01, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
Ran across Fiddler On The Roof on TCM. It was my favorite movie musical back in the day and 45 years later it still resonate. If any of you younger forum members want an introduction to the classic musicals of the 60s and 70s, Fiddler would be the place to start. To me it's a perfect blend of movie magic and Broadway stagecraft. The pacing of films from that era can seem draggy to modern tastes, but Norman Jewison's direction and editing is spot on. There is an air of naturalism in the costuming and make-up that pulls you into the lives of a small 19th century village, and even when the characters burst into song and dance it never breaks the atmosphere of the moment. Plus could there ever be a more perfect Teve than the actor Topol?
Oh yes, Fiddler on the Roof is a very good film! I only ever watched it twice as some of the themes are too close to home to let me watch it without being affected adversely (I have the same problem with things such as Yes, Minister and Barchester Chronicles), but it is extremely good.
On the subject of musicals, some old favourites of mine: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (oh how I loved this one), Gigi, My Fair Lady, The Sound of Music (of course - who actually hasn't seen this?), Mary Poppins (another beloved one - Julie Andrews is still my most favourite actress), Singing in the Rain, Jack and the Beanstalk, Hans Christian Anderson .... and there was this one version of Cinderella, which was absolutely beautiful, the best adaptation I've seen yet - but I think it was more a ballet than a musical. Anyway, even back then I was very impressed with Cinderella's character - I'd seen the Disney version, of course, and this one was so much more likeable. She was an urchin, hehe, short brown hair, horrible clothes, always dirty ... and she actually met the prince, accidentally, before the ball. It was a much more satisfying story.
Oh man I need to do an old movie marathon again... some of those were so good~ Others weren't too good, but they were fun.
Post by: Sunflower on March 01, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Oooh! I haven't seen that before! I'll have to watch it. :D
I've mostly watch series, but I can recommend a lot. The titles translate differently depending on which site you watch them on though.
Warning: if you binge-watch/-read/-do anything, beware. They are highly addictive and not usually very long (compared to the average successful American TV show).
Here are my absolute favorites:
My Love From the Star, Coffee Prince, My Fair Lady, Shining Inheritance, Secret Garden, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Gu Family Book, and King 2 Hearts (as you can see, I really like Lee Sung Ki haha). I also loved Jang Bo Ri Is Here, but I'm not gonna lie, the antagonist made me want to rip my hair out.
Now that I've moved this discussion of Korean dramas to the TV and Movie Thread, I'm curious:
What makes Korean dramas distinctive? Where/how do American audiences watch them? (I'm OK with a TVTropes link or two if nobody feels like writing a dissertation.)
Post by: Blackjazz on March 02, 2015, 03:02:08 AM
NOOOOOooooooo! Tell me you've seen the Broadway one! I haven't seen the movie, but the original is a video of the actual Broadway production and it is absolutely fantastic! Seriously, Bernadette Peters is to die for! Meryl Streep can't hold a candle to her. At least I think so. It may be one of my favorite movies, I dunno... >.>
Into the Woods though...oh my god. I didn't like it at all
As for the kdramas, I could tell you all about them! Haha. I think what makes them distinctive is that a) they have a definite ending, b) the majority of them are between 16-24 episodes long, c) they are all romances (like condensed soap operas, really) and d) the romance portrayed in them is much more innocent than in American TV shows. The main couple usually only kisses two or three times during the whole run of the show and a hug is something to squee at. I don't really know why, but people get all excited over the hugging...
Oh. And sex before marriage (much less a baby) almost never happens. But innuendos are everywhere.
As for where to watch them, you can just search "watch {insert name of show here} korean drama online" and you'll find tons of sites. I usually watch them on here: http://www.viki.com/countries/korea
Post by: Koeshi on March 02, 2015, 09:10:07 AM
and d) the romance portrayed in them is much more innocent than in American TV shows. The main couple usually only kisses two or three times during the whole run of the show and a hug is something to squee at. I don't really know why, but people get all excited over the hugging...
This most likely stems from the fact that Asians are a lot more reserved about public displays of affection than Western countries.
Post by: Peraphelion on March 02, 2015, 11:44:28 PM
Oooh! I haven't seen that before! I'll have to watch it. :D
I've mostly watch series, but I can recommend a lot. The titles translate differently depending on which site you watch them on though.
Here are my absolute favorites:
My Love From the Star, Coffee Prince, My Fair Lady, Shining Inheritance, Secret Garden, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Gu Family Book, and King 2 Hearts (as you can see, I really like Lee Sung Ki haha). I also loved Jang Bo Ri Is Here, but I'm not gonna lie, the antagonist made me want to rip my hair out.
I'm a Cyborg had a strangely abrupt ending, but I found the extreme difference from American storytelling to be really thought provoking and refreshing. I think that's what I've enjoyed about all the ones I've watched. And I appreciate that they focus on the relationships and it's not just everyone falling into bed with each other. (Yes, I'm talking about you, America T_T )
I'm excited to dig into some of the ones you mentioned. They all have such interesting names. :D
Post by: Blackjazz on March 03, 2015, 01:28:48 AM
This most likely stems from the fact that Asians are a lot more reserved about public displays of affection than Western countries.
Ah, you're right about this. I was mostly referring to the non-Asian viewers who comment on the show (on the site I watch them on you can post real-time comments) but I guess I was just more obtuse in figuring out the importance of the gesture than other viewers. It is funny though that if I watch one where the couple does sleep together I just *gasp!* and get all "dearie me" about it. French and Spanish shows do not do this to me.
I'm a Cyborg had a strangely abrupt ending, but I found the extreme difference from American storytelling to be really thought provoking and refreshing. I think that's what I've enjoyed about all the ones I've watched. And I appreciate that they focus on the relationships and it's not just everyone falling into bed with each other. (Yes, I'm talking about you, America T_T )
I'm excited to dig into some of the ones you mentioned. They all have such interesting names. :D
Some shows just do not know how to end right. Like with Shining Inheritance, although I loved it, the main conflict went on all the way into the last episode and then it was like, "oh! we're done." The two main actors didn't have all that much chemistry either, I don't think. But in Gu Family Book and King 2 Hearts the main couples are the be~st!
Please, tell me what you think of them! If you finish them and want more, I have way more I could recommend. haha
Post by: Solovei on June 11, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
MAD MAX FURY ROAD
YOU GUYS
its so good
everyone go see it right now
Post by: RandomTexanReader on June 11, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
*runs*
Post by: Piney on June 11, 2015, 02:34:15 PM
One of my favorite movies of all time.
*runs*
!!! HIGH FIVE
Post by: SectoBoss on June 11, 2015, 02:54:53 PM
Because I'm the kind of person who goes through fandom phases and has to gush about said fandoms to everyone:
MAD MAX FURY ROAD
YOU GUYS
its so good
everyone go see it right now
Yes! This! It really is an excellent film - serious while still being deeply entertaining. Probably the best action movie I've ever seen (you know they did pretty much every stunt in it for real, at 60mph? There's so little CGI in that film compared to similar ones!)
Post by: Solovei on June 11, 2015, 03:42:00 PM
Yes! This! It really is an excellent film - serious while still being deeply entertaining. Probably the best action movie I've ever seen (you know they did pretty much every stunt in it for real, at 60mph? There's so little CGI in that film compared to similar ones!)I also appreciated the lack of shakycam! ugh, just... everything was so beautifully composed, it was like a painting.
I have to say it's the smartest dumb action movie I've ever seen.
Post by: SugaAndSpice on June 12, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
Post by: Solovei on June 13, 2015, 12:38:33 AM
Dr. Who and Sherlock!! And My Little Pony, of course. (Odd mix, don't you think?)Seems pretty standard to me :P
Post by: Sunflower on August 07, 2015, 07:26:21 PM
BUT if I were to carve out some time for binge-watching, particularly older, anime, or other non-U.S. shows, what should I watch, in order to get the references y'all make? I can probably fit in the top 3 between now and the end of the year.
Already nominated:
Tenga Toppen Gurren Lagann
Akta Manniskor ("Real Humans," which is apparently now being remade in the U.S.)
Fullmetal Alchemist
Ripping Yarns
Gravity Falls
For budget reasons, I'm limited to what I can find at my local library system on DVD. But luckily, the library is pretty well-stocked.
Fire away with suggestions! :D
Post by: Fimbulvarg on August 07, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
It has come to my attention that I am tragically deficient in the area of pop culture, particularly TV and anime. I already have an awful lot of my future free time mortgaged catching up on the final (or latest) seasons of "Breaking Bad," "Mad Men," "Game of Thrones," and other live-action shows.
BUT if I were to carve out some time for binge-watching, particularly older, anime, or other non-U.S. shows, what should I watch, in order to get the references y'all make? I can probably fit in the top 3 between now and the end of the year.
Already nominated:
Tenga Toppen Gurren Lagann
Akta Manniskor ("Real Humans," which is apparently now being remade in the U.S.)
Fullmetal Alchemist
Ripping Yarns
Gravity Falls
For budget reasons, I'm limited to what I can find at my local library system on DVD. But luckily, the library is pretty well-stocked.
Fire away with suggestions! :D
I don't think you can have "older anime" if you desperately want to get memes that are being thrown around by the younger generation. None of the animes+Gravity Falls are old in any sense of the word. "Old anime" means stuff like the original Dragon Ball cartoons, Gundam, Space Battleship Yamato etc.
Also, I don't think I've spent a single dollar on anime. Most of the stuff is streamed from crunchyroll and other sites or torrented.
Post by: Mélusine on August 07, 2015, 07:34:03 PM
And now I'll let the persons who own a real culture speak.
Post by: Sunflower on August 07, 2015, 07:37:52 PM
I don't think you can have "older anime" if you desperately want to get memes that are being thrown around by the younger generation. None of the animes+Gravity Falls are old in any sense of the word. Old anime means stuff like the original Dragon Ball cartoons, Space Battleship Yamato etc.
Also, I don't think I've spent a single dollar on anime. Most of the stuff is streamed from crunchyroll and other sites or torrented.
Right, I probably wasn't clear -- I meant older (like "Ripping Yarns") OR anime AND/OR non-U.S. shows -- whatever seems to be in the best overlap between "popular with the youth" and "intellectually/aesthetically powerful enough that a middle-aged snob like me can allow herself to watch it." With a bonus for anything that's actually pertinent to SSSS or this forum.
I'd prefer stuff on DVD because it's more convenient to watch. But I'll settle for streamed delivery, even though it's to my 8-year-old Mac via a less-than-maximal cable connection.
Post by: Haiz on August 07, 2015, 07:44:53 PM
Tenga Toppen Gurren LagannI can vouch for these three. I don't think Gravity Falls is on DVD as of yet, though.
Fullmetal Alchemist
Gravity Falls
I don't know how much you enjoy cartoons, but if you like Gravity Falls (which I think you will because it's brilliant), there's also Steven Universe (which is spawning all the gemsonas in the forum museum, ehehe) and Over the Garden Wall. All of these cartoons are really clever and will feel rewarding to watch even for adults.
Steven Universe has many tropes in common with anime and references a lot of them and the genre.
Over the Garden Wall is a 10 episode miniseries, and it's just. it's an incredible experience to watch. it takes less than two hours to watch the whole thing but that means it's really easy to rewatch!
Post by: kjeks on August 07, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Right, I probably wasn't clear -- I meant older (like "Ripping Yarns") OR anime AND/OR non-U.S. shows -- whatever seems to be in the best overlap between "popular with the youth" and "intellectually/aesthetically powerful enough that a middle-aged snob like me can allow herself to watch it." With a bonus for anything that's actually pertinent to SSSS or this forum.
I'd prefer stuff on DVD because it's more convenient to watch. But I'll settle for streamed delivery, even though it's to my 8-year-old Mac via a less-than-maximal cable connection.
Monster, though it is really dark and the DVDs are hard to get. which reminds me... *sneaks off to search*
Post by: Mélusine on August 07, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
"popular with the youth"Ah... Is popular on the forum enough ? ^^°
Monster, though it is really dark and the DVDs are hard to get. which reminds me... *sneaks off to search*Dark but good :) It was what I discovered after FMA.
Post by: Fimbulvarg on August 07, 2015, 07:55:26 PM
"intellectually/aesthetically powerful enough that a middle-aged snob like me can allow herself to watch it."
Er, if that means what I think it does you may be approaching this with the wrong mindset. Gurren Lagann is loud, rappy, stupid and ridiculous, and if that doesn't appeal to you there's not much to be gained from forceful exposure.
But Attack on Titan is kinda essential nowadays. And sort of similar to SSSS in various ways.
Post by: Laufey on August 07, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
Ergo Proxy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0791205/)
Tekkon Kinkreet (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831888/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
Paranoia Agent (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433722/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
The Tatami Galaxy (http://myanimelist.net/anime/7785/Yojouhan_Shinwa_Taikei)
Er, if that means what I think it does you may be approaching this with the wrong mindset. Gurren Lagann is loud, rappy, stupid and ridiculous, and if that doesn't appeal to you there's not much to be gained from forceful exposure.
Indeed. :D Gurren Lagann doesn't make any excuses but that's exactly what its charm is. Watching it is always an experience (I'm currently re-watching it and I don't think I've hurt myself this badly since Mawaru Penguindrum)(by which I mean there are some really heartbreaking moments in there, just to clarify).
Post by: Solovei on August 07, 2015, 09:12:43 PM
Gurren Lagann is loud, rappy, stupid and ridiculous, and if that doesn't appeal to you there's not much to be gained from forceful exposure.It IS those things but somehow in between giant robots punching each other you start to really feel for the characters and the whole message about "always get better than you are!" (that was the message, right? you know, all those drills and spirals? it was all about self-improvement?
I would also add Battlestar Galactica to your list if you hadn't already seen the re-imagined series. It's exactly the kind of smart sci-fi middle-aged snobs can get behind :P
Post by: Fimbulvarg on August 08, 2015, 04:53:43 AM
It IS those things but somehow in between giant robots punching each other you start to really feel for the characters and the whole message about "always get better than you are!"
I think most animes - even the flamboyant low-brow ones such as Gurren Lagann, Kill la Kill, One Piece, Bleach, Naruto etc etc - try to have some sort of philosophical content. Sometimes it's just very pretentious, like with Bleach and Naruto. But arguably there are those who actually get it kind of right, like Full Metal Alchemist (IMO).
(that was the message, right? you know, all those drills and spirals? it was all about self-improvement?I really hope that was it and not something completely different)
Y-yeah, let's just go with that.
Post by: Auleliel on August 08, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Post by: Hrollo on August 28, 2015, 11:47:05 AM
Gandahar is a French animated science fiction film from 1987 about a future utopian civilization suddenly facing a seemingly unstoppable threat of unknown origin. The story follows Sylvain, a man sent to investigate the threat.
It's a film I watched a lot in my childhood, with a really good soundtrack, and some impressive imagery.
Two warnings though: first, it was made on a rather low budget (it actually had to be animated in North Korea!), so don't except a stellar quality of animation, Disney-Miyazaki it ain't.
Second, following the tradition of French science fiction at the time and of the Heavy Metal magazine in particular (the character design of the movie was actually made by French artist Caza, one of the main contributors of Heavy Metal), there is a lot of explicit nudity. It's largely casual, non-sexualized, artistically-inclineded nudity — there is no porn in that movie, it's a movie kids under 10 watch in France without anyone finding that problematic, but nevertheless, you've been warned.
If you are not deterred, here's a (fan-made, French only) trailer: />
And here's the full movie with English subtitles: />
One last thing: the movie also got an English dub under the title "Light Years", but the music was changed and some scenes were deleted, so I do not recommend it.
Post by: Agrasshopper on August 28, 2015, 04:32:08 PM
Doctor Who and Supernatural are my all time favorites which is a little stereotypical for a nerdy teen girl. I've been getting more into shows based off of comic book characters, like Arrow, Daredevil, and my newest favorite and obsession Agents of Shield. Here's a random spew of some other: Parks and Rec, 30 Rock, the Office, Buffy, Once Upon a Time, Big Bang Theory, Sherlock, Firefly, and How I Met Your Mother (I really hated the ending but the rest is good).
Post by: Sunflower on August 28, 2015, 04:47:26 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/08/27/fated-to-love-you-and-finding-comfort-in-k-dramas/?tid=sm_tw
Oooh! I haven't seen that before! I'll have to watch it. :D
I've mostly watch series, but I can recommend a lot. The titles translate differently depending on which site you watch them on though.
Warning: if you binge-watch/-read/-do anything, beware. They are highly addictive and not usually very long (compared to the average successful American TV show).
Here are my absolute favorites:
My Love From the Star, Coffee Prince, My Fair Lady, Shining Inheritance, Secret Garden, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Gu Family Book, and King 2 Hearts (as you can see, I really like Lee Sung Ki haha). I also loved Jang Bo Ri Is Here, but I'm not gonna lie, the antagonist made me want to rip my hair out.
As for the kdramas, I could tell you all about them! ...
I think what makes them distinctive is that a) they have a definite ending, b) the majority of them are between 16-24 episodes long, c) they are all romances (like condensed soap operas, really) and d) the romance portrayed in them is much more innocent than in American TV shows.
The main couple usually only kisses two or three times during the whole run of the show and a hug is something to squee at. I don't really know why, but people get all excited over the hugging...
Oh. And sex before marriage (much less a baby) almost never happens. But innuendos are everywhere.
As for where to watch them, you can just search "watch {insert name of show here} korean drama online" and you'll find tons of sites. I usually watch them on here: http://www.viki.com/countries/korea
Post by: SectoBoss on October 28, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Post by: Eriaror on October 28, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
This reccomendation may be a bit too late, but if anyone here's been dithering about whether to go see The Martian, do it. It's a great movie and I'm very glad I caught it before it left the cinemas here. I'd say it was as good as Interstellar, if that sells it to anyone :) (but with the advantage of not being quite so long)Yes, yes, MUCH YES. I simply need MOAR spaaace movies like these twooo. The awesomeness gets cubed by the fact that it's plausible awesomeness. \o/
Post by: SectoBoss on October 28, 2015, 04:43:55 PM
Yes, yes, MUCH YES. I simply need MOAR spaaace movies like these twooo. The awesomeness gets cubed by the fact that it's plausible awesomeness. \o/Haha, yep, modern space movies seem to be going from strength to strength recently. Have you seen Gravity? I haven't, but from what I've heard it sounds like another good one in a very similar vein.
Post by: Ana Nymus on October 28, 2015, 05:01:59 PM
Haha, yep, modern space movies seem to be going from strength to strength recently. Have you seen Gravity? I haven't, but from what I've heard it sounds like another good one in a very similar vein.
I liked Gravity from an emotional aspect, but if you're looking for proper physics, you're out of luck. In my opinion, though, it doesn't detract too much from the movie plot itself (I was mildly annoyed by a few things I noticed, but that was all), and there are other things like the interiors of the spacecrafts which, according to the Internet at least, are really accurate.
Post by: meshebe on October 28, 2015, 05:17:09 PM
I did enjoy the Martian btw (let's science the **** out of this!), and Interstellar is on my to-watch list (unfortunately I missed that one in theaters...)
So many good movies out there..... :)
Post by: Yuuago on October 28, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
Has anyone here watched Ex Machina? I think it's my new favorite movie.....coming from a science background I watched it and had a little crisis/revelation about DNA/coding/evolution. If you don't know about it... it's about artificial intelligence but it is NOT your typical "robots are going to take over the world film" !!! Also, the trailer kind of puts more of an emphasis on the relationship between the robotlady and the young man, but it certainly isn't the emphasis in the film so don't let that deter you.
: D I love Ex Machina! I saw it at an independent cinema back in spring, and I found it very striking. Could you elaborate on what you mean about what it made you feel regarding DNA/Coding/etc?
Post by: meshebe on October 28, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
: D I love Ex Machina! I saw it at an independent cinema back in spring, and I found it very striking. Could you elaborate on what you mean about what it made you feel regarding DNA/Coding/etc?
Of course :D
What is DNA? A molecule that is comprise of four nucleotides (ATCG) and a phosphorus backbone that contains all of the information needed to run our bodies and reproduce. What is a computer code? A set of instructions written in a computer programming language (that uses repeating commands) that runs a program. DNA...molecules...chemistry... is just a very elaborate code that we don't fully understand. By this I mean that DNA is made from molecules that form naturally through the rules of chemistry. Certain elements are attracted to certain other elements and under certain conditions it all sort of...falls into place. This crazy complicated molecule runs all of the processes that keep us alive! It's beautiful, and complicated, and fascinating (for me anyway! I've been so obsessed with it since watching that movie...well I've always been obsessed with chemistry..) Watching this movie made me ask 'What if circuits and electronics is just the next step on the evolutionary ladder?' and even more surprisingly I was okay with it.
I mean look it's so beautiful! ( https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/DNA_Structure%2BKey%2BLabelled.pn_NoBB.png/1024px-DNA_Structure%2BKey%2BLabelled.pn_NoBB.png )
There seems to be a lot of science nerds here.... perhaps we should start a science thread? :)
Post by: SectoBoss on October 28, 2015, 06:38:07 PM
Has anyone here watched Ex Machina? I think it's my new favorite movie.....coming from a science background I watched it and had a little crisis/revelation about DNA/coding/evolution. If you don't know about it... it's about artificial intelligence but it is NOT your typical "robots are going to take over the world film" !!! Also, the trailer kind of puts more of an emphasis on the relationship between the robotlady and the young man, but it certainly isn't the emphasis in the film so don't let that deter you.
I did see Ex Machina, but I have to say I was a little underwhelmed by it all. Maybe it was because the trailers had hyped it up as a big old exploration of the potential (and potential dangers) of AI, and all we got was the message: "if you torture sentient robots they may not end up very happy with you." It's not a bad film, but I was perhaps expecting more.
Post by: meshebe on October 28, 2015, 09:44:48 PM
I did see Ex Machina, but I have to say I was a little underwhelmed by it all. Maybe it was because the trailers had hyped it up as a big old exploration of the potential (and potential dangers) of AI, and all we got was the message: "if you torture sentient robots they may not end up very happy with you." It's not a bad film, but I was perhaps expecting more.
Fair enough. My takeaway was more of 'what exactly is human?' I thought the ending was very refreshing compared to other A.I. movies too.... what happens? who knows? It's interesting to think about. And the whole DNA/coding thing was just something that connected in my head....you know how the perfect movie/tv show/song/book/etc comes to you at just the right time to make a big impact on you? That's what Ex Machina was for me. :)
Post by: Laufey on November 08, 2015, 04:36:21 AM
"In a remote Icelandic farming valley, two brothers who haven't spoken in 40 years have to come together in order to save what's dearest to them - their sheep."
I... I must see this movie.
Post by: Solovei on November 09, 2015, 05:04:22 PM
Has anyone here watched Ex Machina? I think it's my new favorite movie.....coming from a science background I watched it and had a little crisis/revelation about DNA/coding/evolution. If you don't know about it... it's about artificial intelligence but it is NOT your typical "robots are going to take over the world film" !!! Also, the trailer kind of puts more of an emphasis on the relationship between the robotlady and the young man, but it certainly isn't the emphasis in the film so don't let that deter you.I ended up seeing The Martian kind of against my will (I wanted to see Crimson Peak, but they'd pulled that out of theaters after only two weeks, and I'd already made plans to go) but it was pretty good. I'm not really in its target demographic I think but it wasn't as boring as I'd feared it would be.
I did enjoy the Martian btw (let's science the **** out of this!), and Interstellar is on my to-watch list (unfortunately I missed that one in theaters...)
So many good movies out there..... :)
I've been watching Vikings lately and I just finished Season 2! Without any spoilers, who else watches it?
Post by: Sunflower on November 09, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
I've been watching Vikings lately and I just finished Season 2! Without any spoilers, who else watches it?
My dad watches "Vikings" (but that doesn't prove much -- my dad watches ALL the TV). I hear it's good -- should I give it a try?
Post by: Yuuago on November 10, 2015, 12:16:37 AM
I ended up seeing The Martian kind of against my will (I wanted to see Crimson Peak, but they'd pulled that out of theaters after only two weeks, and I'd already made plans to go) but it was pretty good. I'm not really in its target demographic I think but it wasn't as boring as I'd feared it would be.
Crimson Peeeaaaak. I had hoped to go see it a second time, but it's gone here too, alas. Too bad; it was delightfully cracktastic.
Glad to hear that The Martian was pretty good; it didn't seem like generally my thing, but perhaps it should go on the to-see list....
Post by: Fenris on November 10, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
My dad watches "Vikings" (but that doesn't prove much -- my dad watches ALL the TV). I hear it's good -- should I give it a try?It is entertaining. As accurate a depiction of old norse society as a match involving the Minnesota Vikings, but entertaining.
Post by: viola on November 10, 2015, 11:19:00 AM
The big finale is going to air as a Christmas special. I will miss that show.
Post by: Solovei on November 10, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
My dad watches "Vikings" (but that doesn't prove much -- my dad watches ALL the TV). I hear it's good -- should I give it a try?I'm not entirely sure of it's historical value, but it's well-made. Like, the acting is good, the storylines are interesting, etc.
The other thing too is that it's kind of refreshing to see a history-based show that isn't based set somewhere in England, because it seems like most of them are lately?
Post by: Mélusine on November 10, 2015, 01:00:46 PM
I'm not entirely sure of it's historical value, but it's well-made.
Post by: Solovei on November 10, 2015, 01:11:25 PM
I will admit that the geography sometimes makes zero sense (why is the king of Denmark having a land dispute with someone from Götaland??? how are they travelling from the Kattegat sea to Uppsala by land?), but I'm willing to overlook that.Some of my friends are crying tears of blood but shhhhhhh... *Hadn't try yet*
Post by: SectoBoss on November 10, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Post by: Fenris on November 10, 2015, 04:53:50 PM
I will admit that the geography sometimes makes zero sense (why is the king of Denmark having a land dispute with someone from Götaland??? how are they travelling from the Kattegat sea to Uppsala by land?), but I'm willing to overlook that.The danes and goths were neighbors. Back then, Skåne, Halland and Blekinge were all considered to be danish. Denmark was the only of the modern Scandinavian states to have been roughly unified by the viking era (sweden being split between svealand and gøtaland with numerous more, Norway having its own multitude of petty kings, etc). By 'kattegat' I assumed they meant some part of western Sweden or southern Norway (considering the geography, neither makes too much sense, but still, the series depicts the flatlands of Uppsala as hilland) in which case they could have walked.
Post by: JoB on November 10, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
By 'kattegat' I assumed they meant some part of western Sweden or southern NorwayAt the risk of earning myself an "I knew that" ...
http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Baltic_Sea#Parts_and_Proper_Names
Post by: SectoBoss on December 16, 2015, 10:33:08 PM
Word of warning: you'll want to watch at least the original trilogy first, if you haven't already, just to familiarise yourself with some of the characters.
Post by: Dane Murgen on December 17, 2015, 02:47:04 AM
Just got back from a midnight screening of the new Star Wars film! I'd highly recommend it to just about everyone, it's a great movie. (I want to say more but I probably shouldn't...)
Word of warning: you'll want to watch at least the original trilogy first, if you haven't already, just to familiarise yourself with some of the characters.
Actually, I only finished episode 6 before watching this movie, so maybe that would be your absolute minimum before watching the movie. (And I know SectoBoss, I know the feeling.)
Post by: John Candlebury on January 04, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
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I'm really annoyed at how good Rey is at pretty much everything she tries in the movie. I mean, in a roughly chronological order she: Wipes the floor with a trained stormtrooper in hand to hand combat (When Finn meets her in Jakku); pilots the Millennium Falcon and pulls of better maneuvers than Han Solo ever did, and Solo had the ship for decades; not only repealed but turned Kylo Ren's mind prove against himself, even though she is completely untrained in the force; somehow knows what a Jedi mind trick is and knows enough technique to perform one; and finally beats Kylo Ren again when they both try to force pull Anakin's lightsaber(or was it Luke's?). But most importantly it didn't felt like she was ever challenged at all, she just struggled for a few seconds with everything only for the movie to then tell us that she is the best of the best.
I really hope something bad happens to her in the next movie, really bad, bad like in Luke refusing to train her. So that she can face some real adversity from someone.
It's almost like if Peter Jackson had made a LOTR adaptation in which Frodo escapes Moria without help, beats Saruman in a magic duel, and then defeats the king of the Nazgûl in a swordfight. Jackson then handwaves Frodo's power by saying that he is acting in accordance with Eru's(basically the abrahamic god) will.
I mean I like female protagonists on Sci-Fi; Ripley from the Alien franchise if probably my favorite character in the genre. But J.J, Abrahams really overdid her character. Finn and Poe are much more better done.
Post by: SectoBoss on January 04, 2016, 07:20:57 PM
Now that this has become the place to discuss the new Star Wars movie let me take a shot at it:
[spoiler]
I'm really annoyed at how good Rey is at pretty much everything she tries in the movie. I mean, in a roughly chronological order she: Wipes the floor with a trained stormtrooper in hand to hand combat (When Finn meets her in Jakku); pilots the Millennium Falcon and pulls of better maneuvers than Han Solo ever did, and Solo had the ship for decades; not only repealed but turned Kylo Ren's mind prove against himself, even though she is completely untrained in the force; somehow knows what a Jedi mind trick is and knows enough technique to perform one; and finally beats Kylo Ren again when they both try to force pull Anakin's lightsaber(or was it Luke's?). But most importantly it didn't felt like she was ever challenged at all, she just struggled for a few seconds with everything only for the movie to then tell us that she is the best of the best.
I really hope something bad happens to her in the next movie, really bad, bad like in Luke refusing to train her. So that she can face some real adversity from someone.
It's almost like if Peter Jackson had made a LOTR adaptation in which Frodo escapes Moria without help, beats Saruman in a magic duel, and then defeats the king of the Nazgûl in a swordfight. Jackson then handwaves Frodo's power by saying that he is acting in accordance with Eru's(basically the abrahamic god) will.
I mean I like female protagonists on Sci-Fi; Ripley from the Alien franchise if probably my favorite character in the genre. But J.J, Abrahams really overdid her character. Finn and Poe are much more better done.
I'm very tired right now and my parents always told me to never do anything if you can get someone else to do it for you. So I found a small (http://feministfiction.com/2016/01/04/rey-and-the-heros-journey/) collection (http://io9.gizmodo.com/please-stop-spreading-this-nonsense-that-rey-from-star-1749134275) of (http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10626896/star-wars-the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue-feminist) internet (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/23/star_wars_doesnt_have_a_heroine_problem_arguing_over_whether_reys_a_mary_sue_is_missing_the_point/) articles (http://www.themarysue.com/the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue/) addressing this very issue instead of trying to blearily argue the other side of this. Hope these help!
Post by: John Candlebury on January 04, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
I'm very tired right now and my parents always told me to never do anything if you can get someone else to do it for you. So I found a small (http://feministfiction.com/2016/01/04/rey-and-the-heros-journey/) collection (http://io9.gizmodo.com/please-stop-spreading-this-nonsense-that-rey-from-star-1749134275) of (http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10626896/star-wars-the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue-feminist) internet (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/23/star_wars_doesnt_have_a_heroine_problem_arguing_over_whether_reys_a_mary_sue_is_missing_the_point/) articles (http://www.themarysue.com/the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue/) addressing this very issue instead of trying to blearily argue the other side of this. Hope these help!
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Post by: Haiz on January 05, 2016, 05:29:06 AM
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Characters who success in everything are as boring as characters who fail in everything, for me, and if I read John properly, it's a similar complain.Post by: Haiz on January 05, 2016, 07:37:37 AM
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melusine: I really hope the complaints have nothing to do with the character's gender, but all my life i've seen female characters being criticized and nitpicked to bits over EVERYTHING, no matter what they do, while male characters are never analyzed to the same extent. There are just a lot fewer female characters on-screen, and they are therefore held to ridiculous standards, making it hard for me to let things like this go.
Post by: Hrollo on January 05, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
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Post by: John Candlebury on January 06, 2016, 12:18:25 AM
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But since Haiz kinda asked ask about Luke's Flaws I also wanted to share what I think are his flaws:
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Also your OC was cool, I dont know why it would even discredit you at all. Although I do think you lost some cool points for using a rainbow katana instead of a rainbow viking longsword (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword) XD
Post by: Noodles on January 06, 2016, 02:10:12 AM
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Post by: Haiz on January 06, 2016, 05:32:23 AM
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i was gonna write more but i gotta catch a bus, woops
and thank you, my oc IS pretty cool! i picked a katana because i was gonna make them as mary sue as possible but then i kinda didn't do that anyway i guess.
DISCLAIMER: i wrote this post while i was half asleep which is the haiz equivalent of being drunk. if i said anything particularly weird or stupid please forgive me, i have no chill when given an opportunity to rant
Post by: Hrollo on January 13, 2016, 12:09:50 AM
Top 20 films disovered in 2015
The top 20 films of a total of 50 films seen for the first time in 2015 (note: I didn't go to the theater in 2015, not once).
Summary of all the films seen, by decade:
1920s: 2
1930s: 6
1940s: 5
1950s: 7
1960s: 14
1970s: 3
1980s: 3
1990s: 3
2000s: 2
2010s: 5
By country:
France: 11
Japan: 10
US: 8
Soviet Union: 6
China: 4
UK: 2
Italy: 2
North Korea: 2
Sweden: 2
Germany: 1
Iran: 1
Australia: 1
Now to the top 20:
Number 20 — The Face of Another
("Tanin no kao", Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1966, Japan, black and white, 2h02)
A severely disfgured man commissions a life-like mask made after someone else's face, and observes the reactions of people around him.
A quiet psychological drama that evocates, with several years of advance, the themes and atmospheres of David Lynch's films, though with more subtlety.
Number 19 — The Cranes are Flying
("Letyat zhuravli", Mikhail Kalatozov, 1957, Soviet Union, black and white, 1h37)
The life of a Russian woman during World War II, as her lover is drafted and sent to the frontline.
The film is less about propaganda and more about the suffering of the Russian people during the war, not only due to privations and loss, but also due to the betrayals of their fellow comrades. The only Soviet film to win the Palme d'Or in the Cannes Film Festival.
Number 18 — Elevator to the Gallows
("Ascenseur pour l'échafaud", Louis Malle, 1958, France, black and white, 1h28)
What should have been the perfect crime for two lovers quickly unravel into a series of dramatic events after one tiny error.
A contemplative crime-drama about two unlucky pairs of lovers-would-be-criminals, with an original soundtrack composed and performed by Miles Davis.
Number 17 — Le samouraï
(Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967, France, color, 1h45)
A few days in the live of a hitman tracked both by the police and by his former employers.
A cold and relentless crime-drama film about solitude and death.
Number 16 — La traversée de Paris
(Claude Autant-Lara, 1956, France, black and white, 1h20)
During the German occupation of France in World War II, when a smuggler's partner gets arrested, he has no choice but to accept the help of an eccentric stranger to carry four bags full of black market meat across Paris, by night.
A comedy-drama with a surprisingly nuanced view of the people of Paris under military occupation, where no one is ever stricly a pure innocent victim nor a complete monster.
Number 15 — Gone With the Wind
(Victor Fleming, 1939, US, color, 3h44)
A tumultuous and fiery romance during spanning the Antebellum, the American Civil War, and the Reconstruction Era.
The prototypical american epic film, one of the most rewarded films of all time, and to this day the highest-grossing one (once adjusted for inflation).
Number 14 — Le deuxième souffle
(Jean-Pierre Melville, 1966, France, black and white, 2h30)
A recently escaped gangster is planning one last caper before his retirement, but personal business soon gets in the way.
A ruthless journey into the world of the southern French mafia.
Number 13 — The Great Killing
("Dai satsujin", Eiichi Kudo, 1964, Japan, black and white, 1h47)
A low-ranking samurai gets wrongly accused of being part of a revolutionary group — which he ends up joining in a bid for revenge after officials kill his wife…
A violent and extremely nervous samurai film, partially shot in faux-documentary style.
Number 12 — Raise the Red Lantern
("Da Hong Denglong Gaogao Gua", Zhang Yimou, 1991, China, color, 2h05)
The life of the fourth wife of a wealthy aristocrat, between boredom and rivalry with the other wives…
A gorgeous color drama about the superficially luxurious, but ultimately oppressing life of women in a Chinese harem.
Number 11 — The Wolves
("Shussho Iwai", Hideo Gosha, 1971, Japan, color, 2h11)
In the 1920s, ten years after a violent altercation between two gangs of yakuza, the culprits are released from jail, just as their two gangs finalize a peace treaty and a merger; but the released gang members soon start to get assassinated one by one…
Hideo Gosha paints a slow but violent Leonesque fresco of the shadow dealings of a transforming Japan, where industrialization marches on but gang members still fight with knives.
Number 10 — Samurai Rebellion
("Joi-uchi: Hairyo tsuma", Masaki Kobayashi, 1967, Japan, black and white, 2h08)
A samurai is asked by his master to marry his son to the master's disgraced concubine. But when the master's heir dies without issue, he asks to get his concubine back…
A cruel drama about the whims of the powerful…
Number 9 — Three Outlaw Samurai
("Sanbiki no Samurai", Hideo Gosha, 1964, Japan, black and white, 1h33)
Three samurai get involved on both sides of a conflict opposing a corrupt magistrate and a band of peasants.
Hideo Gosha's debut film is a rather dark and violence but entertaining and effective story.
Number 8 — Ivan's Childhood
("Ivanovo detstvo", Andrei Tarkovsky, 1962, Soviet Union, black and white, 1h35)
The life of a child serving as a military courier and spy during World War II.
A dark and dream-like war drama filmed with the already beautiful camera movements of Tarkovsky.
Number 7 — The Godfather
(Francis Ford Coppola, 1972, US, color, 2h55)
The story of the decline of the Don Vito Corleone, and the ascension of his son Michael.
The classic american crime drama and one of the most famous films of the New Hollywood era.
Number 6 — Ivan the Terrible (part I + II)
("Ivan Grozniy", Sergei Eisenstein, 1944-46, Soviet Union, black and white with one scene in color, 3h07)
The assension of Ivan IV Vasilyevich, progressively going from an idealistic young man to a sick tyran.
The first two parts of a planned trilogy (the third part was cancelled because Stalin hated the second one, even though he had commissioned the trilogy to begin with) is a monument of Russian cinema, filmed in a very unique style (it's also a strongly propagandistic movie).
Number 5 — Devils on the Doorstep
("Guizi laile", Jiang Wen, 2000, China, black and white, 2h19)
During World War II, a peasant living near a Japanese garrison is forced by a stranger to keep two prisonners hidden in his house…
A dark and satirical comedy filmed like an old movie from the 60s. Banned in China.
Number 4 — Singin' in the Rain
(Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen, 1952, US, color, 1h43)
How actors and film studios adapt to the arrival of sound in movies.
The most famous musical, surprisingly self-aware and caustic.
Number 3 — The Hole
("Le trou", Jacques Becker, 1960, France, black and white, 2h12)
Four prison inmates are planning an escape when a fifth inmate is affected to their cell…
A claustrophobic and realistic prison break film, based on a true story.
Number 2 — The Burmese Harp
("Biruma no tategoto", Kon Ichikawa, 1956, Japan, black and white, 1h56)
The wandering in Burma of a Japanese soldier who has lost all hope, after World War II has ended.
A powerful drama about hope and redemption.
Number 1 — Black Rain
[not to be confused with the similarly named film by Ridley Scott, released the same year]
("Kuroi ame", Shohei Imamura, 1989, Japan, black and white, 2h03)
The life of survivors of the Hiroshima atomic bombing, trying to find some glimmer of hope and joy in the middle of slowly degenerating diseases and social stigma.
Far from the usual melodramatic movies about tragic events, Black Rain shows a lot of subtlety and a lot of modesty in its treatment of the subject, showing us ordinary humans dealing as they can with extreme misery.
That's all for 2015!
Post by: Fenris on January 13, 2016, 01:35:05 AM
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Post by: LooNEY_DAC on August 28, 2016, 03:49:29 PM
As a courtesy, in your first post on the thread, please put your Doctor Who "origin story": how did you find your way to the fandom? Please spoiler the long ones--we're still interested, but courtesy.
My start in Whovianism came with the restrictions my parents put on my TV watching as a child. My watching hours were limited and I was strictly enjoined to watch only what they approved. Fortunately, PBS, the U.S. Educational TV Network, had blanket approval, and in the 1980s, it was the near-exclusive home of Brit TV. Doctor Who came on at 8am Saturdays, shown in the omnibus versions that ran the four or six parts together into one or two parts. So it was that I saw portions of Pertwee and almost all of the shows that followed, right up to "Survival", McCoy's final outing. A few years passed, and then the TV movie came and went. The failure to go to series was such a blow to my hopes that when the revival came, I held off on watching for years, afraid that it would prove as chimerical. It didn't, and I am simply loving how Doctor Who has blossomed under the modern Doctors.
Post by: Purple Wyrm on August 28, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
I got back into watching the show during the McCoy era. Sylvester McCoy will always be my Doctor, and the gold and yellow Imperial Daleks are my favourites. I was heartbroken when the show was axed.
I was sceptical when the show was relaunched, but Chris Eccleston was so good that he pulled me back in. I've enjoyed the show ever since, although it's something of a different beast nowdays, leaning more towards science-fantasy than science-fiction. But that's cool.
I cried when all the Doctors appeared in the Day of the Doctor ;D
Post by: Róisín on August 28, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
During my stay in London the first episode of Dr. Who was shown on the big clunky black-and-white television set my friends had. I think the episode was called 'An Unearthly Child'? It looked very interesting, but then I spent most of the next decade in places that didn't have electricity, little say television, and forgot about it. Some years passed, and while we were stuck in Melbourne my kids pooled their earnings from their part-time jobs and bought a television (again, an old second-hand black-and-white). They soon became fans of Dr. Who, and I got to watch several of the Tom Baker stories with them. Tom Baker appealed to me, with his subtle humour, beautiful Shakespearean-actor voice and wild hair, and that combination of naïvete and competence.
I've seen the odd few episodes since, but have never had time to watch the stories consistently, even though I now have both electricity and a colour television. But I've enjoyed what I've seen so far.
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on August 29, 2016, 08:10:27 AM
I also had a time I drew some arts and comics of DW (even crossovers).
my first ep scene I have seen was the angel EP with ten talking on the video. Someone linked it to a forum many years ago were I was a tag. then some people said to watch it, so I started with the new series (from the first ep)
I started watching the classic who too, but I watched only few eps of the first season with the first doctor. I never continued because I couldn't find it anywhere onlien (with subs.... their accent is hard for me, so I prefer it subbed even in english)
I actually don't know more then the tv series (Sarah Jane and torchwood series too)
and I have a small tardis and a homemade small pillow with Jack and the tardis on it (got from a friend)
Post by: urbicande on August 29, 2016, 09:36:16 AM
I want to say that the first episode I ever saw was Robot.
Post by: Mélusine on August 29, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
You never forget your first Doctor.Well, my first Doctor was Christopher Eccleston, but "my" Doctor is definitively David Tennant. I remember having seen the first new season during a three days weekend ^^
I stopped watching one or two seasons ago I think. I might see them later, but I've slowly lost my interest. I'm sorry but I really don't like when Moffat takes all the decisions and some episodes have been awfully bad to my mind...
Post by: Helia on August 29, 2016, 10:12:18 AM
Well, my first Doctor was Christopher Eccleston, but "my" Doctor is definitively David Tennant.
Same for me :)
I only started whatching because of a friend who is a huge Chris Eccleston fan, but I liked David Tennant even better. I lost interest when the 11th doctor came, although I caught several newer episodes on TV by chance.
So I don't really count myself as a Whovian, but I have fond memories of the 9th and 10th doctor.
Post by: Mélusine on August 29, 2016, 10:42:19 AM
I lost interest when the 11th doctor came, although I caught several newer episodes on TV by chance.
Post by: urbicande on August 29, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on August 31, 2016, 02:26:08 PM
You never forget your first Doctor.TRUE, but not always it is your fav.
my fav doctor was Matt Smith, second would be Christopher Eccleston (I wish He was a bit more and not only for one season.)
I didn't see all the doctors, but I remember the first doctor, who seemed so serious and kind of evil at first, but later seemed a cute grandpa like doctor, so he was cool.
Post by: Auxivele on August 31, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
Post by: JTS_ on October 14, 2016, 03:11:00 PM
So here are a list of my favorite documentaries, and ones that can describe the complexity of reality.
Bitter Lake: A great documentary that describes how messed up the middle east is. And how it became that way thanks to Saudi Arabia, the US, the UK, and The Western World. By Adam Curtis.
(this is a foreign title but it still is in English)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4p8161_adam-curtis-bitter-lake-tr-eng-altyazi_school
The Century of The Self
Describes the current society and how Freudian ideas have lead us to a world where we love consumerism. Also by Adam Curtis
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The Fog of War: A great documentary on war, the Vietnam War, and humanity. (trailer only, you may have to rent it but it is a great documentary.
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The Unknown Known: A fantastic documentary on 9/11 and Donald Rumsfeld, and the greatest Foreign Policy disaster in human history. The Iraq War(again another trailer :( )
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The Thin Blue line: Considered by many to be the greatest documentary of all time. Delves deep into police and their place in society through a ongoing case.
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Aaaand that's it! Have a gander at these. Adam Curtis can be a bit hard to digest. But do enjoy feel free to share your favorite documentaries. :D
Post by: Juniper on October 14, 2016, 11:53:23 PM
The Linguists (http://www.pbs.org/thelinguists/) is about two linguists who document what they can of dying languages with only a handful of speakers left alive so that all knowledge of that language isn't gone completely after the language dies. It also explores the language mass extinction we're currently going through, with there currently being about 7,000 active languages but around half of those or more will be dead languages by the end of the century.
The Future is Wild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_Is_Wild) is a really fun and moderately silly one. It's based on the subject of Speculative Evolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculative_evolution) which is a really cool and fascinating subject. I think some of the animals they come up with and their names are a bit silly but that's half the fun of this documentary. Speculative anything is cool because in hundreds and thousands of years there's going to be nations, cultures, and languages that don't exist now but will exist and wow what will they be ?? And in millions of year there's going to be new animals and different geography and wow what's that going to be ??
And then of COURSE you can't go wrong with Planet Earth. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Earth_(TV_series)) Is anyone else REALLY pumped that they're making a second Planet Earth series ??
And oh boy speaking of classic and popular natural science documentaries you can't go wrong with, The Cosmos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Spacetime_Odyssey) is definitely one of those. Both the classic 80's version with Carl Sagan and the more recent one with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Post by: Hrollo on January 01, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Top 5 movies I discovered in 2017
#5: Kuroneko
(1968, Kaneto Shinto, Japan, black and white)
Horror film about two women who after suffering and dying at the hand of a roaming band of soldiers, turn into cat-spirit seeking revenge on samurai…
#4: Adauchi
(1964, Tadashi Imai, Japan, black and white)
A samurai film very critical of the feodal honor system and of samurai mentality, showing through flashbacks how a poor samurai got himself involved in a doomed duel.
#3: The Manchurian Candidate
(1962, John Frankenheimer, US, black and white)
Psychological thriller and spy film about brain washing and mind control. Notable for co-starring Frank Sinatra.
#2: Arrival
(2016, Denis Villeneuve, US, color)
Science fiction thriller and drama, which I absolutely did not expect to like this much. This is the kind of film I wish Ridley Scott or Christopher Nolan were making.
#1: Sword of Doom
(1966, Kihachi Okamoto, Japan, black and white)
One of the most cruel and violent samurai films outthere; suffers a bit from a very abrupt ending and loose plot threads (the story was supposed to continue in a second film that was never made), but nonetheless worth the journey.
Post by: PickleChip on January 02, 2018, 06:58:19 AM
Post by: Rhynerd on January 12, 2018, 04:33:27 AM
Movie:The Gunfighter (1950)
The movie is a western drama that follows Johnny Ringo, known here as Jimmy Ringo. This legendary gunslinger has grown weary of his reputation and now seeks to settle down with the woman he once married. Trouble is, she doesn't want to see him one bit, and even her small town has people hoping to gun down the legendary Jimmy Ringo.
While I haven't see too many westerns, this one is refreshingly quiet in comparison to the others. It's also one of the few films I've seen deconstruct the image of the wild west gunslinger.
TV Show: The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
A comedy about a Jewish woman in the 1950's starting a career in standup comedy. I wonder if the second season is out yet...
Post by: WeirdnessUnfolds on May 05, 2018, 10:16:22 AM
Post by: Solokov on May 06, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
Kinda like how Annihilation is the closest anyone's going to come to a big screen adaptation of Roadside Picnic.
Post by: Hrollo on May 06, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
hadn't heard of it. Probably is the closest we'll get.
Kinda like how Annihilation is the closest anyone's going to come to a big screen adaptation of Roadside Picnic.
So I take it you're not counting Stalker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film))?
Post by: Solokov on May 06, 2018, 11:57:04 PM
So I take it you're not counting Stalker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film))?
Not so much, to the best of my knowledge it never got much traction outside the USSR and isn't really well known.
Post by: soggy on May 07, 2018, 01:18:15 AM
Post by: Sc0ut on May 07, 2018, 04:53:11 AM
Not so much, to the best of my knowledge it never got much traction outside the USSR and isn't really well known.
Funny you say that, I always thought it was a cult classic. While I am Eastern European, I actually learned about Stalker from the English-speaking side of the internet. Meanwhile, I know nothing about Annihilation.
ETA: Okay, I watched the Annihilation trailer, and I'm offended you even suggest it's inspired from Roadside Picnic, let alone an "adaptation". wtf? You could say the lush deviant natural landscape is inspired by Snail on the Slope if you absolutely want a Strugatsky shoutout, but there's literally nothing that connects Annihilation to Roadside Picnic except "a small crew goes in a dangerous, alien territory" which is just standard sci-fi fare.
Post by: Solokov on May 07, 2018, 08:27:01 AM
Funny you say that, I always thought it was a cult classic. While I am Eastern European, I actually learned about Stalker from the English-speaking side of the internet. Meanwhile, I know nothing about Annihilation.
ETA: Okay, I watched the Annihilation trailer, and I'm offended you even suggest it's inspired from Roadside Picnic, let alone an "adaptation". wtf? You could say the lush deviant natural landscape is inspired by Snail on the Slope if you absolutely want a Strugatsky shoutout, but there's literally nothing that connects Annihilation to Roadside Picnic except "a small crew goes in a dangerous, alien territory" which is just standard sci-fi fare.
To be fair, I never said it was a direct adaptation, just that it was the closest thing to a big screen adaptation that I've seen. if I were to really get into the gritty details I'd say it's more an "americanization" of the premise of the Visit. Apparently there's a book though, I think I'll hunt down a copy and see how it is.
And yeah, Stalker has something of a cult following among certain people here in the U.S. due to the success of the Metro and Stalker video games.
Post by: Iceea on May 07, 2018, 11:51:02 AM
And a word about Solaris. I saw it when it was first released on a "big screen". A full size CinemaScope screen, which was about the same size that an iMax screen is today. There were only about 20 people in the theater and with out the usual audience crowd as a distraction the ambiance of that file was overwhelming.
But there is one scene that was cut from both the tape and the DVD. I'd love to find a "directors copy" of the movie with that clip still in it.
Post by: Hrollo on May 07, 2018, 12:04:51 PM
The result was by necessity extremely minimalistic, and while Stalker is highly praised in cinephilic circles, I feel it's not a movie that really reflects the full extense of Tarkovsky's skill as a director; of all of his movies that I've seen, I think "The Mirror" remains the best at showcasing Tarkovsky's talent, even if it's not an easy film to follow [even by the standards of Tarkovsky's films in general]. If someone wanted to get "into" Tarkovsky, I'd advise them to first watch "Ivan's Childhood" as an introduction, and if they like it, proceed with "The Mirror", and from there the rest of his filmography.
Post by: Iceea on May 07, 2018, 05:16:11 PM
Post by: soggy on May 07, 2018, 08:35:04 PM
I learned about Stalker from having bought a tape and more recently a DVD of Solaris. While the movie may convey the ambiance it doesn't even come close to portraying the leathal-ness of the zone. I've read Roadside Picnic and that deadliness is a theme underlying the whole story. Where ventures into the zone whether by the official scientific people or the stalkers, if you make a wrong move you're dead. Weird, bizarre, strange, yep but the danger, it just doesn't get it. MHO
While Stalker doesn't outright present the brutality of the zone like Roadside Picnic does, I believe the tensity portrayed in the meatgrinder and when the writer chooses to stray from the path imply that danger without any outright death needed. The combination with the claustrophobic shots and eerie soundtrack or lack thereof gives you the sensation that they could die at any second.
Post by: RanVor on April 28, 2019, 03:45:15 AM
Everybody who watched Endgame is welcome. If you didn't, well, nobody's gonna throw you out, but remember that you stay at your own risk.
I hope for an interesting discussion!
Post by: Nellie McEnt on April 28, 2019, 10:17:25 AM
* speaking of Tony...ashgasdghasg Tony!!
* ashaslghaslghasgdj Nat!!!!
* Steve got a peaceful death and a happy life, that's good
* I am going to miss the Tony and Peter dynamic ahhhhh
* SHURI DIDNT EVEN GET A LINE, THE COWARDS
* Captain Marvel is beautiful and capable and I love her
* Nebula killing Past Nebula should have made Nebula immediately vanished, but whatever, plotholes I guess
* I personally think it is a good thing that they didn't bring Loki back for the 3rd time
* ohmygods Thor
* I have nothing else to say about Thor
* of course Steve is worthy...but is Captain Marvel?!
* TONY HAS A DAUGHTER I ALMOST FORGOT AJHSKJGHS
* Okay, I think it was really weird and bad character writing to have the generally morally pure Clint go on a sudden huge killing spree and then revert to being good almost immediately and none of his friends are even upset at him??
* I guess that's all. I liked it, good movie.
Post by: RanVor on April 28, 2019, 11:54:41 AM
* Windy is a prophet, he predicted some stuff about TonyNext time we should ask him about lottery numbers. ;D
* SHURI DIDNT EVEN GET A LINE, THE COWARDSIf they were to give every character the screentime they were due, the movie would have lasted for six hours instead of three. The missed opportunities are regrettable, but it's long enough as it is.
* Captain Marvel is beautiful and capable and I love herOh yes, she is. She's more capable than the entire Avengers team combined, and it's not necessarily a good thing...
* Nebula killing Past Nebula should have made Nebula immediately vanished, but whatever, plotholes I guessNo plot hole, it was explained several times that changes in the past don't affect the present. As I understand it, it's less "travelling to the past" and more "travelling to an alternate reality that is currently at different point of time than ours".
* ohmygods ThorI personally think fat Thor is one of the best things to have happened to the MCU.
* TONY HAS A DAUGHTER I ALMOST FORGOT AJHSKJGHSI KNOW RIGHT!?
* Okay, I think it was really weird and bad character writing to have the generally morally pure Clint go on a sudden huge killing spree and then revert to being good almost immediately and none of his friends are even upset at him??He was insanely traumatized at the time, but yeah, I suppose it could have been handled better. Then again, it would make the movie a fair bit longer...
...
I have a crazy conspiracy theory. Remember the song that played during the credits of the first Iron Man movie? It was "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath. And what's so special about it? Well, the third verse of the song contains words "[...] he travelled time for the future of mankind".
THE CREDITS OF THE FIRST MCU MOVIE FORESHADOW ENDGAME!
(...Yeah, probably not. But it's a fun coincidence.)
Post by: Nellie McEnt on April 28, 2019, 01:48:16 PM
Oh yes, she is. She's more capable than the entire Avengers team combined, and it's not necessarily a good thing...Hmm, but she's also very awesome so I'm willing to forgive her ridiculous overpoweredness.
No plot hole, it was explained several times that changes in the past don't affect the present. As I understand it, it's less "travelling to the past" and more "travelling to an alternate reality that is currently at different point of time than ours".Ah, okay, thank you! I guess I'm too blinded by my own previous understanding of time travel.
I have a crazy conspiracy theory. Remember the song that played during the credits of the first Iron Man movie? It was "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath. And what's so special about it? Well, the third verse of the song contains words "[...] he travelled time for the future of mankind".
THE CREDITS OF THE FIRST MCU MOVIE FORESHADOW ENDGAME!
(...Yeah, probably not. But it's a fun coincidence.)
Wow, I love that. It's probably just a coincidence, yeah, but it's still awesome!
Post by: RanVor on April 28, 2019, 04:46:03 PM
Hmm, but she's also very awesome so I'm willing to forgive her ridiculous overpoweredness.Sure, she's very awesome visually, but with her level of raw power, I just don't see many opportunities for an interesting narrative, unless she has some hidden weakness or something. Or unless an exceptionally powerful villain (like, for example, Galactus) gets introduced, but then there might be no place for more mundane heroes in the MCU anymore.
Keep in mind that I haven't seen Captain Marvel and I hardly know anything about her personality beyond what was shown in Endgame (which is to say, not much). I'm just concerned about the future of the MCU. With a protagonist that powerful, one might start wondering what other heroes are even for.
Ah, okay, thank you! I guess I'm too blinded by my own previous understanding of time travel.You're welcome. It's a neat way to avoid the most common pitfalls of time travel stories and keeps quite nicely to the core concept of quantum physics (still very far from what quantum physics is actually about, though). Plus, if you think of it that way, they have accidentally saved another timeline from Thanos. ;D
Wow, I love that. It's probably just a coincidence, yeah, but it's still awesome!Thank you! :)
Post by: Nellie McEnt on April 28, 2019, 05:46:59 PM
Sure, she's very awesome visually, but with her level of raw power, I just don't see many opportunities for an interesting narrative, unless she has some hidden weakness or something. Or unless an exceptionally powerful villain (like, for example, Galactus) gets introduced, but then there might be no place for more mundane heroes in the MCU anymore.
Keep in mind that I haven't seen Captain Marvel and I hardly know anything about her personality beyond what was shown in Endgame (which is to say, not much). I'm just concerned about the future of the MCU. With a protagonist that powerful, one might start wondering what other heroes are even for.
Oh heck, I meant other than visually (I mean, she's totally attractive but that's kind of completely beside the point when it comes to whether she's a good character). I did see Captain Marvel and I appreciate her personality and moral code and her development and conflicts in that.
Edit: Also, I think she did have enough flaws in Captain Marvel that didn't have to do with her superpowers.
BUT, all that said, she definitely doesn't seem to be flawed or have weaknesses on the same level that makes all the other heroes so interesting and good, so I totally take your point about the future of the franchise.
Post by: RanVor on April 28, 2019, 05:55:47 PM
Oh heck, I meant other than visually (I mean, she's totally attractive but that's kind of completely beside the point when it comes to whether she's a good character).I meant more that she's spectacular with what she does. I don't find her exceptionally pretty myself.
Also, I think she did have enough flaws in Captain Marvel that didn't have to do with her superpowers.I'm sure she did but is it enough to compensate for her effortlessly stomping everybody into the ground? I don't think so.
Post by: Nellie McEnt on April 28, 2019, 11:28:30 PM
I meant more that she's spectacular with what she does. I don't find her exceptionally pretty myself.
I'm sure she did but is it enough to compensate for her effortlessly stomping everybody into the ground? I don't think so.
Ah, okay--she sure is pretty spectacular at what she does, too! And yeah...I know what you mean...maybe she'll turn out to have some extra horrible, deep character flaw or her powers will start to fail or something...I guess we'll just have to see what happens!
Post by: RanVor on April 29, 2019, 06:03:37 AM
We'll see.
Post by: ILoveMySocksAndSweater on April 29, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Post by: Windfighter on April 29, 2019, 05:36:46 PM
I wouldn't go as far as saying I predicted stuff but... heh, thanks <3
I am disappointed in Steve's ending as well. I mean urgh, okay, it wasn't all that surprising and it made perfect sense but #Give Captain America a boyfriend already. Preferable Tony, but I also accept Bucky or Sam.
I... don't really get why Bucky was all sad during Tony's funeral, honestly??? like what? They had only exchanged like 2 words and then tried to kill each other anyway???
Anyway I cried a lot during the movie and I laughed a lot and oh my gods Thor was the best!
Friend and I are looking forward to him finding Loki again in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (which probably won't happen but eh). "He's been dead before."
Also I freaking knew Sam was gonna take over the shield after Cap! I am so happy I got that detail right in "Shut up and dance with me". I am the best! I'm not sure how the shield is gonna work with Sam's flying fighting-style but I'm sure he'll figure it out somehow!
All in all very good movie. Got very angry at Nebula when she grabbed her head instead of pressing the button but eh, if she hadn't the final battle wouldn't have happened so... no wait, that's why I'm mad at her. I mean understandable but still mad.
Edit:
Oh, and Clint and Natasha fighting about who of them would die! I just wanted to grab Clint and yell at him because he was fighting to get his family back and Natasha doesn't have any family except for the other Avengers so she was fighting for them to get their loved ones back and why couldn't he understand that? I was still very sad that one of them had to die though ;_; (I understand where Clint was coming from as well but still!)
Post by: ILoveMySocksAndSweater on April 29, 2019, 09:50:52 PM
Anyway I cried a lot during the movie and I laughed a lot and oh my gods Thor was the best!
Friend and I are looking forward to him finding Loki again in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (which probably won't happen but eh). "He's been dead before."
Thank you for saying this bc I wholeheartedly agree! I mean Loki did end up getting the tesseract (however that's spelled), right?
Post by: Windfighter on April 30, 2019, 09:59:49 AM
And then Tony had to go and die and Peter lost yet another father figured and I'm sad for that too ;_;
And when Morgan said she wanted a cheeseburger I just... I died again >:
There was a lot of me dying during that movie. I want to watch it again :D
Post by: Windfighter on May 01, 2019, 11:52:34 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/292aa5ddffcb2b7f7417f6b7423febdd/tumblr_pqm5g3alE61ugijur_540.jpg)
Post by: Windfighter on May 04, 2019, 12:18:01 AM
Steve "I can do this all day" Rogers only ever wanted to prove himself. It was never about protecting the little guy, but always about proving he didn't need Bucky to protect him. If he truly wanted to protect those who couldn't protect themselves there were so many other things he could have choosen to do instead of lying to get into a war where everyone would have to protect him because there was no way he was gonna be able to protect himself and the only reason he was still alive was because Bucky had always had his back.
When presented with the choices of helping science help the country or tricking the americans into thinking the war was honorable he choose the option that brought him fame and dames. He completely ignored the third option, the one where he just plain out stated "You gave me these abilities to fight the war and protect the little guys and that's what I'm going to do and at this point you can no longer stop me" because seriously they wouldn't have been able to. That option didn't plop up until, once again, he was given a selfish reason to do it - get his only friend back and impress his love interest.
The serum enhanced all parts of him - even the selfishness. This is why he got more and more visibly selfish throughout the movies to the point where he made the most selfish choice of them all - leave the person who was depending on him, for whom he was a lifeline, just so he could pursue his own happiness despite the happiness that person had made for themselves without him. Peggy had gotten a husband and kids and had lived a happy life and Steve "you're not the one to make the sacrifice play" Rogers decided that his happiness was more important than both hers and Bucky's.
Steve Rogers was never worthy of wielding Mjölnir (I mean okay I loved that scene but just no) and all of his arc had been about him being a selfish person and I think that's part of why his ending felt so unsatisfying to me. I wanted to see him become the man who would choose to lay down on the wire, not because he had something to prove but because he wanted to protect the little guy.
Rant over and Windy out.
(On the flip-side Tony's ending was unsatisfying because all through his arc he had fought to gain happiness and then, when he finally had it within his grasp, he died.)
Post by: Oripoke on May 05, 2019, 10:46:12 PM
All in all, I thought it was a fun film and a great sendoff to a decade of investment in these characters' stories. RDJ and Chris Evans are freed from their acting contracts! And all it took was a bit of time travel and assembling all 6 infinity stones.
Hawkeye was my favorite part of the movie, probably. Now, I don't really know how he went from family man to morally-gray vigilante assassin, and I don't know if the random scene in Tokyo where he murders a bunch of yakuza with a samurai sword was necessary, per se, but goddamn if it wasn't cool as hell.
There were also some great moments when the Avengers are back in New York City during the events of Avengers 1. The shenanigans in the Tower were particularly funny. ("That's America's ass.")
Loki's definitely alive. No way he didn't get away somehow. Yes, he died onscreen in Infinity War, but he's been dead before and he has a tendency to get better. He'll probably cameo in Guardians Vol.3.
I do have one major gripe though. In the end, when everybody comes back... the un-snapped people should be 5 years older than the snapped people. We saw that with Ant-Man reuniting with his daughter who is now a teenager. But instead, we see Peter reuniting with his friends in high school and they're all the same age, ie, not snapped. If you're gonna have time travel relativity bullshit, then commit, goddangit! (Who's salty? Not me. Certainly not.)
8/10 would shill out collectively $100s of dollars and get invested in a dozen superhero backstories again.
Post by: Windfighter on May 06, 2019, 03:54:58 AM
Hawkeye has always been an assassin, and then spent the last few years being an avenger, so it's not completely out of the question that seeing his family get snapped pushed him into "my family was nice people and if they had to die from the snap so should the evil mafia-people and I'm gonna make sure they do".
I generally love Hawkeye so I'm really glad we got to see more of him, although it broke my heart that we had to wtness him being forced to sacrifice his best friend ,_, For all I whine about how he should have just let her make that sacrifice it was still a very painful scene >:
I'm sad that we didn't get to see the scene were Steve returned the soulstone, it would have been great to see him come face to face with his first nemesis again.
RDJ was apparently torn over having to say goodbye to Iron Man, but Chris wanted to move on, so I guess that's why they made Steve retire the way he did. But what do I know, I've only actually seen the tea on tumblr.
Also the line "I love you 3000" is from RDJ's kiddos and I just hnnn.... of course the most memorable line of the movie is something he brought to it. Of course.
Edit: Also, I have to admit that when we first got to the scene with the yakuza I was like "Why is Deadpool in this story suddenly". Felt pretty stupid when two seconds later I realized it was Hawkeye :P
Post by: Windfighter on May 07, 2019, 03:19:58 PM
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source (https://avengersgroupchat.tumblr.com/post/184691865773/theres-a-multiverse)
Post by: ILoveMySocksAndSweater on May 07, 2019, 06:30:21 PM
I was having a pretty interesting discussion about what it means to be selfish and it's implications. I believe that as an individual it is perfectly fine to be 'selfish' because the societal expectation that being selfless makes you a good person is completely false. Yes, you should care and take care of other people if that is within your ability (I'll touch back on this in a moment) but if you just want to live your own life and you don't have a desire to act for a cause you truly aren't devoted to, don't be 'selfless.' At the end of the day, a 'selfless' act usually is 'selfish' because you are always getting something in return, whether it be a good feeling or the safety of something you'd like to protect it's still benefiting you somehow in the end. Being selfish, while not always a negative thing, can still be a negative thing once a certain line is crossed. That line would be your selfishness almost directly negatively affecting others. Lastly, if you are capable of helping others while still being able to feel fulfilled then you should help others.
Another thing, under the definition of a hero, relating to the sort of heroes usually featured in Greek mythology: the epic hero (ex. Perseus, Odysseus, etc.), a hero should be selfless. (selfless being not entirely selfish seeing as those heroes do selfish things within the stories but generally remain selfless by the end.
Now relating everything back to Steve. I'd classify Steve as an epic hero seeing as, as windy said, he is quite god-like. He is an icon to the public as well so, like epic heroes, he should reflect the values of society. -A brief interruption- yes america is a selfish country, but america is not all of society so I will not be using the 'american values' as Steves values, but more of the values that the average person would admire and want to see in a hero.-end of a brief interruption- Steve's decision to go stay back with Peggy was incredibly selfish. Just because Thanos is gone it does not mean that there are no threats left on earth which means that Steve is leaving the earth more vulnerable than it was while he was fighting to protect it. Steve's choice was also a betrayal to his friends who were expecting him to come back as himself. Seeing Steve make this decision felt almost entirely out of character as well because he places so much value in his friends and in his duty to protect people that it seems so unnatural for him to sacrifice everything for one person who he seems to have accepted as someone there to remain in his memories. Steve's decision was very selfish. Steve is not stupid enough to believe that he's vanquished all threats either. One thing all heroes encounter on their journey is temptation, Peggy was Steve's temptation and he failed to resist it. This failure means that Steve's journey will always be incomplete and unsuccessful which it the main reason why seeing this happen left such a bitter taste in all our mouths.
Steve once was a hero and once worth of mjolnir, but he no longer is a hero and no longer worthy.
Post by: RanVor on May 07, 2019, 08:19:56 PM
Steve Rogers is not a monument of stone, nor is he one of Stark's automated suits. He's a living human being with feelings, needs and wants. He worked hard for preserving humanity - harder than anyone, in fact. He put his life on the line time and time again because people needed him. He had put others before himself for pretty much all his life, or at least since he was found in the ice. In the end, he made the same decision Thor did - to be who he wanted to be and not who he was expected to be - knowing he leaves the fate of the world in good hands. Because while people would benefit from having him around, they don't really need him, not anymore. Are the Avengers weaker without him? A little, perhaps. Are they incapable of fending off threats? Hardly.
His friends could make him young again, but they won't do it, because they respect his decision. And while I'm sad to know I won't see Captain America again, I believe he has, at last, more than earned his retirement.
Post by: Windfighter on May 08, 2019, 02:44:49 AM
I'm not upset at Steve getting retirement or a happy ending, I'm just upset at how they handled it, and how it basically went "screw Peggy's happy ending, mine is more important".
I mean since he appeared in the original timeline instead of an alternative one we could probably argue that he was her husband all along, but she said herself that her husband was someone Steve saved from Hydra so...
But maybe Steve didn't marry Peggy but some unnamed character and the scene with them dancing was just to throw us off, they later discovered that they didn't work together and he found someone else and that's why he didn't want to talk about them. ...wow I didn't think I could feel more unsatisfied by his ending but now here I am.
Did he deserve a happy ending? Yes, of course
Are the Avengers good without him? yeah, duh, they have Spider-Man
Did he do good stuff? Obviously
Did he have the right to destroy Peggy's future because of that? Heck no and that's what I'm mostly angry at
That and the fact they broke their own carefully set up timetravel laws just to marry him off to Peggy :P
Also for the comparisation with Thor: Thor decided to be wo he was instead of who he was expected to be, to live in the future, to write his own path and move forward.
Steve decided to become who he used to be, to rewrite someone else's past and move back.
I can understand Steve's decision but it doesn't stop me from being frustrated with it. He had already found one new love interest in the present, why did he suddenly go "nope, I cannae find love in this timeline gotta make my own"?
(the answer to that is apparently "because the audience weren't all over that because they wanted Stucky")
(Also if he married Peggy his whole love affair with Peggy's niece gets slightly squicky as well, not from his pov but from Sharon's and now I'm just so confused at this)
He could have just retired together with Sharon honestly *flops*
Anyway, I like Steve (I like him more in Avengers Assemble than in the MCU though) and I'm not trying to piss on his character or anything. He did good, like Tony he deserved a happy ending and I'm happy he got his happy ending. I'm just upset at how it was executed :P
Post by: Windfighter on May 10, 2019, 12:45:17 AM
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and if even the writers/producers can't decide what actually happened no wonder I'm all confused and frustrated at this :P
Endgame is just an angsty AU and there is a timeline where Tony and Steve and Natasha are still huge parts of the Avengers and that makes me happy <3
I am also 100% onboard the headcanon that Noobmaster69=Loki
Post by: Oripoke on May 10, 2019, 05:08:19 PM
Post by: Windfighter on May 10, 2019, 05:56:43 PM
If he came back from an alternative timeline he should have landed at the pad though, that's the most confusing part of that =/ It wouldn't have been as dramatic, but the dramatic reveal instead stomped over their rules and eargh. I'm probably puttin too much thought in this.
It was a good movie, I loved it and still cry whenever I see the word "stark" in the stores which is all the time, so some tiny plotholes can of course be forgiven :P
Post by: RanVor on May 10, 2019, 06:50:51 PM
If he came back from an alternative timeline he should have landed at the pad though[...].
Honestly, I thought he went over there as a tiny Steve and that's why they didn't see him, but it probably makes no sense anyway.
Post by: Solokov on May 10, 2019, 08:21:30 PM
#MULTIVERSETHEORYSAb****!
Also aside from pretty much everything everyone else has said... Mantis had a very strong case of "WTF do I do with my hands, why am I even in this scene, why didn't Drax loan me some knives?" going on during that one scene.
Post by: itstricky on July 01, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
Post by: Windfighter on July 26, 2019, 04:26:38 PM
Post by: Solokov on July 27, 2019, 09:43:07 AM
* I personally think it is a good thing that they didn't bring Loki back for the 3rd time
But he is coming back for a solo film.
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* of course Steve is worthy...but is Captain Marvel?!
Based off Odin's verbiage on the charm he placed on Mjolnir ... Currently? No. What we've seen of her so far in the MCU is very similar to how Thor was during the first half of the first Thor movie, very punch first ask later, and rather hot headed, Imo.
Smarter folks than I have come to an accord that to be worthy the person has to look at violence as a last resort, and being willing to lay down your life for peace. I think the current list of people who aren't the Odinson himself for the mcu as of infinity war is; Steve, Natasha, Groot, Tony, and oddly enough Thanos himself.
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* Okay, I think it was really weird and bad character writing to have the generally morally pure Clint go on a sudden huge killing spree and then revert to being good almost immediately and none of his friends are even upset at him??
It probably got cut.
Post by: RanVor on July 27, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
so aparentlyAccording to a famous literary essay titled The Death of the Author, the creator of a literary work (which a movie script arguably is) loses their exclusive right of interpretation at the moment of publication.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1724d5daa2fdbaa5824314997a27d212/tumblr_pr6zv4G4ef1w86ok5_540.jpg)
and if even the writers/producers can't decide what actually happened no wonder I'm all confused and frustrated at this :P
In other words, you're not obligated to give a single !@#% about what the writers have to say. Their opinion isn't any more valid than yours.
Post by: Solokov on July 27, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
Since the thread got resurrected anyway...
According to a famous literary essay titled The Death of the Author, the creator of a literary work (which a movie script arguably is) loses their exclusive right of interpretation at the moment of publication.
In other words, you're not obligated to give a single !@#% about what the writers have to say. Their opinion isn't any more valid than yours.
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/what-the-author-meant.jpg
But that's just like... My opinion man.
Post by: Windfighter on July 27, 2019, 02:11:54 PM
In other words, you're not obligated to give a single !@#% about what the writers have to say. Their opinion isn't any more valid than yours.I mean yes, but I don't really have an opinion more than "holy fish this is confusing and no alternative makes sense".
Anyway I live in the alternative 2012 timeline where they all live happily together in the tower, Bucky get rescued a little earlier which makes civil war never happen and everything is great :D
Post by: Ragnarok on July 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
I resurrected it to cry about the deleted scene with all of you but I guess I have to cry alone :P
I mean yes, but I don't really have an opinion more than "holy fish this is confusing and no alternative makes sense".
Anyway I live in the alternative 2012 timeline where they all live happily together in the tower, Bucky get rescued a little earlier which makes civil war never happen and everything is great :D
This You Protect?
Post by: steadfastjewel on March 06, 2020, 09:36:39 AM
Hope it's okay to drag this one back into daylight! ;D
I am house/cat sitting for the next two months, and while poking around discovered that the house's owner has a lovely collection of 'classic' films- Kurosawa, Bergman, Kubrick among others... so perhaps I will finally get to watch The Seventh Seal, which I have been meaning to do for years.
On a less intellectual note, I am hopelessly in love with Star Trek. Didn't watch it growing up, then The Original Series became my coping mechanism during college struggles. I live for the corny earnest plotting and extremely bold costume choices. Once I ran out of TOS, it was on to Next Generation, which I also loved (though it has its eye-roller moments).
Then, last year, having run out of the "Star-Treks-people-say-good-things-about", I decided I would try Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. My expectations were low, but OH MY GOODNESS I just finished season five two days ago and I am so enamoured with it. On paper, it seems like a concept I'd hate (Star Trek, but everyone's moral compasses are a bit damaged and half the cast are war criminals). But I love it so much. It's still quite campy at times, I wouldn't have it any other way. Every member of the crew is wonderful, in TOS and Next Generation I had an easy time picking favorites but here they're all so lovely(even the horrible people, haha). Garak miiight be my favorite just for the chaos energy that surrounds him. Odo has evolved so much as a character. Plus, I love Quark's entire wardrobe, the man is a fashion icon. I'm eternally afraid it'll all slide downhill before the end, but... wow. It's awesome. I just needed somewhere to gush about it for a moment. Two seasons left, but I won't be starting those for a while.
I realize I'm a few years late to the party, but if anyone here ever wants to talk Trek, hit me up :sparkle: :sparkle: :sparkle:
Post by: Jitter on March 06, 2020, 10:50:31 AM
And just recently the guy who plays Quark was on CSI (recently for me that is) and he's also one of the Nox on Stargate SG1. With Quark's mask it takes a while to remember why he's so familiar. Funnily enough he also plays the Principal in Buffy, which I love so much! He doesn't even have a mask on. But when I see him in another program it's always Quark that comes to mind (finally), not the Principal :)
Have you watched the new Picard yet? We haven't taken any streaming services because we would spend far too much time or alternatively would end up paying for too many, but for Picard we are seriously considering.
Post by: steadfastjewel on March 06, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
I didn't realize Quark's actor was on Buffy, that's funny! I love seeing the rubberfaced actors on other shows, particularly if I'm not expecting it. The slow realization of "ohhhh, that's what your real face looks like..."
Post by: Jitter on March 07, 2020, 06:49:19 AM
Have you watched The Orville? It’s great :)
Post by: Róisín on March 08, 2020, 01:29:19 AM
Post by: thegreyarea on March 09, 2020, 11:43:11 AM
I only just realized it when I was reading his filmography, as I remembered I’d seen him somewhere and therefore had been remembering Quark.I've watched The Orville and I like it, a lot, although the right balance between SF and Comedy is hard to reach. But I'm looking forward for the next season.
Have you watched The Orville? It’s great :)
My husband is currently watching his way through The Expanse. Good science fiction, from the bits and scraps I have caught so far, but I haven’t as much time as I would wish for viewing anything. This looks as though it might be worth making time for when I can. Has anyone else watched it?I'm currently watching the 4th season and The Expanse is very good. I'd say that's the best SF that you can watch right now. Real Physics O_O , an interesting story, good acting (where Shohreh Aghdashloo stands out, IMHO, "stealing" every scene where she shows) and amazing views of space, planets and ships.
There's two things, however, whose absence is hard to explain if you consider a story hundreds of years in the future: robots (and I don't mean androids but mobile working machines to help people and do repetitive and/or uninteresting tasks) and AI (humans as pilots and gunners of spaceships in battle? Come on!)
Post by: Alkia on May 06, 2020, 05:24:28 PM
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Also, there's many other random fairytale movies like this that I've watched, so I might come back to this thread in the future
Post by: Yastreb on September 12, 2020, 06:57:56 AM
Spoiler: show
Post by: Róisín on September 12, 2020, 09:46:59 AM
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Post by: Grade E cat on December 08, 2020, 12:56:22 PM
Most of the story happens in 2045, in an alternate reality where World War III broke out on top of a deadly pandemic in 2020, and Spain became (along with other countries) an oppressive dictatorship.
In the brief glimpse of 2020 we see, a father implants each his young twin daughters with a subcutaneous chip of unknown nature before being taken away from his home by the army.
Twenty-five years later, one of the twins has recently died of the noravirus (the disease that accidentally became covid's fictional counterpart between production and international release), leaving a husband and a daughter (who had inherited her chip) behind. Both of them move to Madrid to join the surviving twin and the twin's mother, claiming that the little girl's mother will be joining them soon at checkpoints. The little girl tests positive for a blood test given to new entrants and is taken away. Her father is told that it's because he's unemployed and that he needs to find a job to get her back. It just so happens that the twin's mother used to date Spain's current Minister of Health, so she calls him to find a job for her son-in-law. During the job interview, it turns out that the house servant job opening is meant for a married couple. To complicate things more, the surving twin has recently killed someone important in self-defense, her boyfriend is taking the steps for the two of them to leave the country as all this is happening, and she hasn't told what happened to anyone else. And, cherry on the cake, the little girl was actually taken to place researching a cure for the noravirus. The place's director is the Minister of Health's wife.
There was sloppy writing here and there (and one who doesn't like too much reliance on coincidences and last-possible-second timing may get tired of it quickly), but it did enough right to want me to see the next episode each time.
Post by: Quetanto on December 20, 2020, 06:01:07 PM
Post by: JoB on December 21, 2020, 09:01:33 AM
Anyone else watch Darkwing Duck around here?... quite a while ago. If the German dubbing on that one was as bad as it usually is, the English version would probably need to be played at half speed to get all the puns ... :3
(The nitpicker in me, however, still wants to know how he can effectively roll that cape entirely around himself and then still reach out with his arm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZfxfZDuPpk&t=26). 8) )
Post by: Yastreb on December 21, 2020, 11:00:01 PM
* The US is now self-sufficient in energy
* Crises in the Middle East have disrupted oil production
* Norway has elected a government with strong Green credentials, which has closed down North Sea oil production and turned its attention to new energy sources. The EU, with no other source for oil and gas, is unhappy with this decision.
What happens is that the Norwegian Prime Minister is kidnapped, and then released, not long before Russian forces* take over major Norwegian oil and gas platforms, apparently at the behest of the EU. After that... I'll say no more, except to add that it's on Netflix.
* I was pleased to note that in a scene where Russian helicopters are hovering over an oil platform, two of them are Kamov Ka-50 Black Shark gunships (CGI-rendered), not simply Any Old Choppers with red stars painted on them. I like that attention to detail.
Post by: Grade E cat on December 22, 2020, 01:41:27 AM
Post by: thegreyarea on August 05, 2022, 08:25:53 AM
Just dropping by to tell anyone that might be interested I just watched the first episode of "Sandman" on Netflix and it's awesome!
(Yet be careful because it has a few violent moments. Nothing that will give you nightmares... I hope.)
(Being a huge Gaiman fan surely does not create any bias on my opinion, right?) ;)
Post by: dmeck7755 on August 05, 2022, 10:02:05 AM
[Practices necromancy to revive the thread. It rises, unsteady, trembling. Lightning crosses the sky]
Just dropping by to tell anyone that might be interested I just watched the first episode of "Sandman" on Netflix and it's awesome!
(Yet be careful because it has a few violent moments. Nothing that will give you nightmares... I hope.)
(Being a huge Gaiman fan surely does not create any bias on my opinion, right?) ;)
I have only read the book American gods. I hated what they did to it for the TV. So if they are doing a good job that is a very rare thing indeed.
Post by: thegreyarea on August 05, 2022, 10:56:56 AM
I have only read the book American gods. I hated what they did to it for the TV. So if they are doing a good job that is a very rare thing indeed.Well, it says a lot that I wasn't interested enough to watch American Gods beyond the middle of the first season... Even if I'm willing to give another try in the future.
Anyway there's allways a gap between books and movies/series. I don't recall any case of the later surpassing the original. LOTR came close, but the books are still better.
In Sandman's case I have the "advantage" of not having read the source material, so I can't (yet) find the problems. :)
Post by: dmeck7755 on August 05, 2022, 03:02:58 PM
Well, it says a lot that I wasn't interested enough to watch American Gods beyond the middle of the first season... Even if I'm willing to give another try in the future.
Anyway there's allways a gap between books and movies/series. I don't recall any case of the later surpassing the original. LOTR came close, but the books are still better.
In Sandman's case I have the "advantage" of not having read the source material, so I can't (yet) find the problems. :)
You are correct about LOTR, but in my opinion the Hobbit is something else....I hated that they tried to make 3 movies out of it...
Post by: Jitter on August 05, 2022, 03:06:46 PM
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Post by: RanVor on August 07, 2022, 07:44:41 AM
The Hobbit trilogy mostly suffered from Jackson trying to make it a whole lot more epic than it needed to be. The first movie was alright, not great, but it had that adventure feel the Hobbit is supposed to have. The following ones felt more like wannabe Lord of the Rings, which really doesn't work with the type of story the book was written as. As for the Rings of Power, I don't really have any expectations, but I kinda hope it'll be awesome, just to spite all the haters who wrote it off before seeing it.