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Title: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 27, 2022, 08:22:40 PM
Starting a new comic hopefully sometime this summer. I started reading SSSS back in 2018 and it's been one heck of a journey so far. Minna definitely Kickstarted a lot of my artistic journey and love for crafting stories so in light of SSSS coming to an end, I've decided to create my own comic!

Working title is Eyes of The Forest and I sort of pulled on the "Post-Apocalypse set in Northern Europe" vibe of SSSS and translated it into something I'd enjoy writing and illustrating. The main story is set in Germany 10 years after an event called "Die Stille" (The Silence/The Silencing) during which thick forests reclaimed a good portion of the world and wiped out 80% of the human population, leaving some weird creatures and residual magic side effects in its wake. I have a group of 3 as the main cast but I'm considering more at the moment.

I'm posting this here because the visual style and overall aesthetic of EoTF is similar enough to SSSS that I think you'll all (hopefully) enjoy it when I manage to get it up and running. Questions, comments, and possible ideas are all appreciated as this is my first time crafting a comic world! :D!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Róisín on March 27, 2022, 09:06:34 PM
This sounds interesting! If you need help with details of forest ecology I may be able to help, and I do love a good story. Plus, of course, in European folklore, a number of strange and wonderful things are said to sleep in deep forests. Perhaps you could wake up some of them?
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: NightMareMage on March 27, 2022, 09:18:08 PM
I will definitely have to keep up with your comic!

The Slemhjort/Slime Deer looks interesting and how you draw hair is on point.

I love that (at least) one of character uses sign language. (Small thing but you did put the speech bubble to Ahren's mouth when he is talking with his hands.)

I was happy to find that the it does not look to similar to SSSS in art or concept.

I look forward to seeing more!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: dmeck7755 on March 27, 2022, 09:30:16 PM
This comic sounds interesting.  I would definitely like to read it.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 27, 2022, 10:59:30 PM
This sounds interesting! If you need help with details of forest ecology I may be able to help, and I do love a good story. Plus, of course, in European folklore, a number of strange and wonderful things are said to sleep in deep forests. Perhaps you could wake up some of them?

I'll definitely consider waking up some of them for big climactic scenes! Can't have Ahren and Katrin (2 of the main cast) wandering around doing nothing the whole time!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 27, 2022, 11:02:16 PM
I will definitely have to keep up with your comic!

The Slemhjort/Slime Deer looks interesting and how you draw hair is on point.

I love that (at least) one of character uses sign language. (Small thing but you did put the speech bubble to Ahren's mouth when he is talking with his hands.)

I was happy to find that the it does not look to similar to SSSS in art or concept.

I look forward to seeing more!

Aa thanks for pointing out the speech bubble thing! I'm not really used to doing comic work so I'll have to find a way to make it a little clearer that he's signing rather than speaking.

Both Ahren and Katrin will use sign language, Ahren more than Katrin as he can't exactly talk.

And thank you! I'm just going for a vibe rather than straight up copying anything so it's really good to hear that.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 27, 2022, 11:02:43 PM
This comic sounds interesting.  I would definitely like to read it.

I'll definitely let all of you know when it's up and active
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Jitter on March 28, 2022, 02:38:45 PM
I love the idea already! I just read an article on how all of Europe was covered in primeval forest before we went and discovered agriculture. (And then the murders began)

If I may suggest, maybe it would be good if you figure out for yourself what caused the Stille and why. Just to avoid ending up in contradictions. It doesn’t matter if the characters and the readers never learn it, but the author should know. Just saying… Then of course it’s entirely possible you have very robust world building already!

Also, are you and NightMareMage friends otherwise? Thy seem to be commenting on your work, which is not available yet?

Annnnyways, I wish you luck and perseverance! Both are needed in addition to the talent. I’m looking forward to reading it!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: NightMareMage on March 28, 2022, 02:43:44 PM
I love the idea already! I just read an article on how all of Europe was covered in primeval forest before we went and discovered agriculture. (And then the murders began)

If I may suggest, maybe it would be good if you figure out for yourself what caused the Stille and why. Just to avoid ending up in contradictions. It doesn’t matter if the characters and the readers never learn it, but the author should know. Just saying… Then of course it’s entirely possible you have very robust world building already!

Also, are you and NightMareMage friends otherwise? Thy seem to be commenting on your work, which is not available yet?

Annnnyways, I wish you luck and perseverance! Both are needed in addition to the talent. I’m looking forward to reading it!

 MintheTea's profile links to their DA so I checked out his art there.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: NightMareMage on March 28, 2022, 02:48:38 PM
Aa thanks for pointing out the speech bubble thing! I'm not really used to doing comic work so I'll have to find a way to make it a little clearer that he's signing rather than speaking.

Both Ahren and Katrin will use sign language, Ahren more than Katrin as he can't exactly talk.

And thank you! I'm just going for a vibe rather than straight up copying anything so it's really good to hear that.

I don't think sign languages are common in comics but have seen the "sign guy comic," it was created by a deaf man and in it ASL is more common then spoken english. It might give you some ideas on how you what to depict spoken vs sign language(s).
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Jitter on March 28, 2022, 03:53:50 PM
Oh I see! I checked it out too. I particularly love the dreadlocks picture, but all of them show you are a great artist!

Have you read White Noise? Big guy with wings reference :) And it’s completely lovely!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 28, 2022, 06:15:55 PM
I love the idea already! I just read an article on how all of Europe was covered in primeval forest before we went and discovered agriculture. (And then the murders began)

If I may suggest, maybe it would be good if you figure out for yourself what caused the Stille and why. Just to avoid ending up in contradictions. It doesn’t matter if the characters and the readers never learn it, but the author should know. Just saying… Then of course it’s entirely possible you have very robust world building already!

Also, are you and NightMareMage friends otherwise? Thy seem to be commenting on your work, which is not available yet?

Annnnyways, I wish you luck and perseverance! Both are needed in addition to the talent. I’m looking forward to reading it!

I do have a reason as to why the Stille happened but that's for me to know and all of you wonderful people to find out! Something to do with the Earth always having a magic to it that was simply ignored for a long time...

Ominous!

And thank you for the well wishes! I should be able to post the comic some time around August of this year if all my development goes as planned!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 28, 2022, 06:16:57 PM
I don't think sign languages are common in comics but have seen the "sign guy comic," it was created by a deaf man and in it ASL is more common then spoken english. It might give you some ideas on how you what to depict spoken vs sign language(s).

Aa I'll check it out! Hopefully it'll make things clearer.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on March 28, 2022, 06:19:59 PM
Oh I see! I checked it out too. I particularly love the dreadlocks picture, but all of them show you are a great artist!

Have you read White Noise? Big guy with wings reference :) And it’s completely lovely!

I will have to check it out! Particularly large guys with wings are a favorite little bizzare character trope of mine. I see it's linked in your webcomic recommendation post!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: thorny on March 28, 2022, 07:45:59 PM
White Noise was also Comic of the Month here a few months back; and collected enough of a following to have its own page here for continuing comments. Its own page is full of spoilers, though, as we're by now generally commenting on the current page; so if you find it interesting (I do) you probably want to catch up before coming there.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Linebyline on March 29, 2022, 02:30:25 PM
I'll definitely consider waking up some of them for big climactic scenes! Can't have Ahren and Katrin (2 of the main cast) wandering around doing nothing the whole time!
Well, you could, but it'd probably be a very different kind of comic. (I mean, post-apocalyptic fantasy slice-of-life is an interesting idea, but you can obviously work that in like SSSS did without having the whole comic be about just that.)

Creating a comic is a big job, not for the faint of heart, and I wish you the best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on April 01, 2022, 10:15:01 PM
Well, you could, but it'd probably be a very different kind of comic. (I mean, post-apocalyptic fantasy slice-of-life is an interesting idea, but you can obviously work that in like SSSS did without having the whole comic be about just that.)

Creating a comic is a big job, not for the faint of heart, and I wish you the best of luck with it.

A sorry for not getting to this sooner! I have a bit of a full schedule at the moment.

Thank you for your support! I checked out your DA and really like your work :D
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Linebyline on April 03, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
Aw, thanks!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on July 26, 2022, 12:35:15 PM
Not sure how many people are actively looking at this board anymore but Eyes of The Forest has had its title changed to Skybound City following a major plot overhaul! I've been slapping a bunch of conceptual doodles up on the art board here.

Unfortunately as I've been planning this out I've realized that Skybout City is going to take a LOT longer than I initially thought it would to fully plan out and create. This doesn't mean it won't come out ever but I'm pushing back the potential release date by a lot (this is also due to getting a job and prepping for college in the upcoming year)

So I'm curious, would you all be interested in a shorter comic? Sort of like a test run before I launch myself into Skybound City full time. A lot of Minna's old videos on comic making tips and tricks hold up really well so I figured I'd take her advice and test the waters with a shorter form comic to see what my pace is and all that before I start full development on Skybound City.

It'll probably remain Mythology based as I'm currently (and have been for a while) really into nordic mythology and all of its creatures and legends, including the different epics from the different countries, but it'll be a lot shorter than Skybound City will end up being (predicting somewhere close to 1500 pages)

If I do manage to get a smaller comic out in a reasonable amount of time then that gives a bit more hope that SC can come out sooner rather than later! But for now everything is tentative and I'd love to hear thoughts and opinions.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: thorny on July 26, 2022, 07:36:16 PM
Seems good to me!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: dmeck7755 on July 26, 2022, 08:03:28 PM
Iwould be interested in any comic, you want to do within the time frame you can do it in.  Your art is lovely, and the story premise is promising :)
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Róisín on July 26, 2022, 11:43:15 PM
What deck said, plus a shorter practice run will help you to hone your art skills and refine your ideas, plus give you practice with different styles. I will certainly read it.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Buteo on July 27, 2022, 10:07:18 AM
I will also be glad to read whatever you want to make, at whatever pace suits your life circumstances (we all know how those can change from moment to moment).
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Turnstylus on July 27, 2022, 04:18:04 PM
Yes MintheTea, that sounds like a good plan!
The character creation that we've seen on the art board is coming along so well, so I'm so glad you're not going to give up!

Most of the authors I've known have started out with short stories before they moved on to longer works. The quicker payoff of finishing a short work reinforces the habits (and discipline) needed to stick with that same process for a longer period of time.

Personally, I'm really looking forward to seeing some environment/setting art, when you get around to it!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Linebyline on July 27, 2022, 05:00:55 PM
Creating a shorter starter comic worked for Minna and it can absolutely work for you too.

The other option is the Meg Syverud approach: Just jump in, accept that the earliest part will be a little rough until you get good habits established, and go from there. You can always redo the first chapter or so later. It worked for Daughter of the Lilies.

But it seems like you're leaning toward the practice comic, so i'd say go with your gut and give that a shot.
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: translunaryAnimus (TA) on July 28, 2022, 02:09:18 AM
Thank you for all the kind words! I’ve started juggling around a short comic idea and think that i’ll go ahead with that one before i jump headfirst into Skybound City! Expect a lot more art and development updates in then near future!
Title: Re: Starting a comic. Thoughts?
Post by: Jitter on July 28, 2022, 06:16:53 AM
I am not an artist at all, but an engineer. As an engineer I recommend practicing something with a smaller ask before taking on a huge endeavor :) So I agree that it’s probably a good idea to do a shorter one first.

I just recommended a comic for you in the arts thread so won’t repeat everything I wrote there. Just that I would also be very interested to read both your short and long stories.