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Title: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 19, 2020, 05:51:04 PM
Just remembered this really cool riddle and I figured I'll post it here for convenience. You can post your own riddles here, however, once there's more than one riddle, it might be a good idea to quote it while answering, to prevent confusion regarding which riddle is being answered.

My riddle is as follows:

Let's suppose you have been diagnosed with a deadly illness and only have a few months left to live. You're offered a chance to participate in an experimental treatment that will save your life. You're given two jars, each containing a hundred pills. Both kinds of pills look, smell and taste exactly the same - there's no way to tell the difference. You have to take two pills from each jar every day until you run out of both, after which you will be cured. However, if you mix it up, you die. You do as you're told until, two days before the end of your treatment, you accidentally knock over both jars and the pills get mixed up. What do you do to complete your treatment and not die?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Alkia on March 19, 2020, 06:04:17 PM
ooh, I've heard one like this before! I've never heard a definite correct answer, but my answer is this: take all the pills, grind them up, and mix the powder as well as possible. Then, either eat the powder or put it in water to make a paste and mix it more.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 19, 2020, 06:10:02 PM
ooh, I've heard one like this before! I've never heard a definite correct answer, but my answer is this: take all the pills, grind them up, and mix the powder as well as possible. Then, either eat the powder or put it in water to make a paste and mix it more.
There's a simpler way.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 20, 2020, 07:06:03 AM
Just remembered this really cool riddle and I figured I'll post it here for convenience...

...What do you do to complete your treatment and not die?
Great idea Ran!

I know this is not the right answer, but I'd take those 8 pills (2 days left x 2 jars x 2 pills) and wait until midnight. Then I'll took all them together, even risking an overdose.

(Presuming there's no way to contact those guys that were so smart to devise a treatment for a deadly disease but not smart enough to make the damn pills in different colours!)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Grade E cat on March 20, 2020, 08:09:36 AM
Just remembered this really cool riddle and I figured I'll post it here for convenience. You can post your own riddles here, however, once there's more than one riddle, it might be a good idea to quote it while answering, to prevent confusion regarding which riddle is being answered.

My riddle is as follows:

Let's suppose you have been diagnosed with a deadly illness and only have a few months left to live. You're offered a chance to participate in an experimental treatment that will save your life. You're given two jars, each containing a hundred pills. Both kinds of pills look, smell and taste exactly the same - there's no way to tell the difference. You have to take two pills from each jar every day until you run out of both, after which you will be cured. However, if you mix it up, you die. You do as you're told until, two days before the end of your treatment, you accidentally knock over both jars and the pills get mixed up. What do you do to complete your treatment and not die?

Are we supposed to assume the pills were actually spilled out of their original bottles or not?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on March 20, 2020, 02:28:24 PM
You have to take two pills from each jar every day until you run out of both
I shall assume that that means either a) to take 2 "left jar" + 2 "right jar" = 4 at one time every day, or b) 1+1 at one time ("morning") and 1+1 at another ("evening"), not that you have to take the two sorts at different times of the day (e.g., 2+0 in the morning and 0+2 in the evening).

Spoiler: in that case ... • show

Take your eight remaining pills and a) two / b) four new containers. Break every pill in equal parts, putting one part of it in every container. Gobble down the content of one container at every pill-taking time.

PSA: In the real world, there are pills that have some inner structure (resorption-delaying coatings, etc. etc.) and deteriorate when you break them into pieces. Don't do that with your pills unless the instructions you got say it's OK, or at the very least the pills have grooves to help breaking them. Be sure to break them at the grooves, too.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 20, 2020, 07:47:50 PM
I shall assume that that means either a) to take 2 "left jar" + 2 "right jar" = 4 at one time every day, or b) 1+1 at one time ("morning") and 1+1 at another ("evening"), not that you have to take the two sorts at different times of the day (e.g., 2+0 in the morning and 0+2 in the evening).

Spoiler: in that case ... • show

Take your eight remaining pills and a) two / b) four new containers. Break every pill in equal parts, putting one part of it in every container. Gobble down the content of one container at every pill-taking time.

PSA: In the real world, there are pills that have some inner structure (resorption-delaying coatings, etc. etc.) and deteriorate when you break them into pieces. Don't do that with your pills unless the instructions you got say it's OK, or at the very least the pills have grooves to help breaking them. Be sure to break them at the grooves, too.


Ladies and gentleman, we have the correct answer. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 21, 2020, 06:02:51 AM
Ladies and gentleman, we have the correct answer. Congratulations!

Ok, but I still want to talk with those guys that made the pills-that-kill-you-if-mixed with the same colour!

But I liked this little play, so here's a new one. (Though some may find it to easy):

- What is seen in the middle of March and April that can’t be seen at the beginning or end of either month?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on March 21, 2020, 06:11:30 AM
The letter ‘r’?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 21, 2020, 06:49:13 AM
The letter ‘r’?

I said that some would find it too easy... Yes, we have a winner!

Now I'll be waiting for the next one :-)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on March 21, 2020, 07:10:35 AM
Ok, but I still want to talk with those guys that made the pills-that-kill-you-if-mixed with the same colour!
Now that's a "Holi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulal)er than thou" attitude if I've ever seen one! >:D

- What is seen in the middle of March and April that can’t be seen at the beginning or end of either month?
Since I think that Róisín nailed that one, lemme try to come up with a new one ... hehe, I'll shamelessly steal/adapt something I heard on the radio lately ...

I'm hairy and I give milk, yet I'm not a mammal.
I cannot move away from my home region, and yet I appear near people pretty much all over the world.
Said people are usually delighted to see me - and then grab various blunt instruments to use on me.
What am I?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 21, 2020, 07:37:46 AM
I'm hairy and I give milk, yet I'm not a mammal.
I cannot move away from my home region, and yet I appear near people pretty much all over the world.
Said people are usually delighted to see me - and then grab various blunt instruments to use on me.
What am I?

A coconut?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on March 21, 2020, 09:54:52 AM
Here is one of mine. I drew on two sources of inspiration for this: a quote from John Muir (yes John Muir as in founding of National Parks) talking about seasonal things: ‘Each in its turn as the round Earth rolls’, and the Anglo-Saxon Riddle Poems, which are well worth a read, both for themselves and because they inspired Tolkien’s riddle game in ‘The Hobbit’. A warning: several of these sound as if the answers should be something quite risqué, even if they are not, and some others actually do have a risqué answer.

The answer to mine is one of the classic answers. Some of you may have seen it already in other contexts.

What spills through the hands like sand or water
Spills through the mind from grief to laughter
Dances a beat and the next beat after?

What is deeper than Death’s dark river,
Still as a shallow where bright leaves shiver
Gone every instant yet lives forever?

What can snuff out a star in the dark alone?
Crush a mountain to dust and that dust to a stone
And that stone in its turn into dust again?

What is all false and yet most true?
Old forever yet always new?

What is the water the soul swims through?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on March 21, 2020, 09:56:42 AM
With your clue of 'classic answers', I'm going to guess that it's time.

Also, that is a beautifully written riddle.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on March 21, 2020, 09:58:18 AM
You are correct!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on March 21, 2020, 01:06:06 PM
A coconut?
Ayup. (The gag I heard in the radio essentially went, "since they have hair and milk, why don't we consider coconuts mammals?")
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 21, 2020, 01:38:57 PM
Here is one of mine...

Róisín, that's truly a beautiful riddle! Well done! And Keep Looking beat me in the answer, but I got it right!

Ayup. (The gag I heard in the radio essentially went, "since they have hair and milk, why don't we consider coconuts mammals?")

I also got this on right, but was beaten again! :) And of course the vegetarian lobby does not want us to consider coconuts mammals. It's a conspiracy! ;)

Here's another, probably you experts will call it easy:

You see a boat filled with people. After some time you look better and the boat is intact, but you don’t see a single person on board. Why?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on March 21, 2020, 01:51:22 PM
You see a boat filled with people. After some time you look better and the boat is intact, but you don’t see a single person on board. Why?
The only thing I can think of is that the boat is on land and the people got out but I feel like that's not the answer the riddle is looking for
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 21, 2020, 01:57:53 PM
The only thing I can think of is that the boat is on land and the people got out but I feel like that's not the answer the riddle is looking for

Could be. That's a good answer, :) but as you said this is not the expected one. So let's clarify that the boat is on water, away from the shore.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 21, 2020, 05:41:22 PM
I see the idea has gotten decently popular. Okay then, have another one.

Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on March 21, 2020, 08:50:50 PM
You see a boat filled with people. After some time you look better and the boat is intact, but you don’t see a single person on board. Why?

Should I put it in a spoiler?


Spoiler: show
They all got married?


ETA: Ranvor:

Spoiler: show
a temper?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 21, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
ETA: Ranvor:

Spoiler: show
a temper?


Nope.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 21, 2020, 09:30:30 PM
Should I put it in a spoiler?

Spoiler: show
They all got married?


And we have a winner! *raises thorny hand in the air* Well done!

I think that putting our answers on spoilers is a excellent idea.

As was your idea for this thread, Ran!

Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

I'll give my try:

Spoiler: show
Glasses?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 22, 2020, 06:42:03 AM
I think that putting our answers on spoilers is a excellent idea.

As was your idea for this thread, Ran!

I'll give my try:

Spoiler: show
Glasses?


Still no.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: yeethaw_gang on March 22, 2020, 07:33:58 AM

Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

Spoiler: show
Would it be old age?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 22, 2020, 09:15:14 AM
Spoiler: show
Would it be old age?


*grins devilishly* No.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on March 22, 2020, 01:13:42 PM
And we have a winner! *raises thorny hand in the air* Well done!

I got one right, anyway!

Is 50% a passing grade?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 22, 2020, 03:28:07 PM
I got one right, anyway!

Is 50% a passing grade?

In my University we used to say that 50% (that was the minimum to pass) was a grade, everything beyond that was a luxury! So to me you're fine!

(the faculty had a tradition on "tight" grades (and still has, but a little less, so I've heard). Having an 80% in anything was considered almost-genius-level, 90% or 100% was definitively worth of general awe and small excursions of younger students to see which project could achieve such "miracle")
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Gwenno on March 22, 2020, 06:03:44 PM
Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

Oh man, I am very much enjoying trying to figure these ones out!
Spoiler: show

An obsession?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 23, 2020, 07:19:19 AM
Oh man, I am very much enjoying trying to figure these ones out!
Spoiler: show

An obsession?


No.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mariiii on March 23, 2020, 07:47:49 AM

Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

I have been thinking about it since you posted it and I finally have an idea !

Spoiler: show
 Being one year older ? Or just enter a new year ? I know it's the same idea with two different wording
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 23, 2020, 08:00:07 AM
I have been thinking about it since you posted it and I finally have an idea !

Spoiler: show
 Being one year older ? Or just enter a new year ? I know it's the same idea with two different wording


Sorry, still no.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on March 23, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?
I don't have an answer to this because the answer "the letter 'e'" doesn't make sense, and there isn't anything with Odysseus that makes sense either. But for the sake of guessing:
Spoiler: show
Life!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Clayres on March 23, 2020, 11:48:21 AM
I don't have an answer to this because the answer "the letter 'e'" doesn't make sense, and there isn't anything with Odysseus that makes sense either. But for the sake of guessing:
Spoiler: show
Life!


This gave me an idea!

Spoiler: show
A baby!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on March 23, 2020, 11:53:22 AM
Clayres 😆 A lot of people want to have one, or even more! I know I did.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Clayres on March 23, 2020, 12:37:32 PM
Clayres 😆 A lot of people want to have one, or even more! I know I did.

Sure but I don't the process of having that is not the greatest ig?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on March 23, 2020, 03:01:03 PM
Oh, yeah, I see what you mean :) Although some people like that part too.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on March 23, 2020, 03:04:31 PM
Hmmm. The back of my head is telling me that I've actually run into this one before and should know the answer; but it's not surfacing.

And the back of my head is telling me that this isn't the right answer, but let me try it anyway:

Spoiler: show
The memory of a loved one who has died.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Alkia on March 23, 2020, 03:37:26 PM
probably too specific of an answer, but i'll give it a try:
Spoiler: show
a needed medical device?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mariiii on March 23, 2020, 07:40:57 PM
I'm trying again

Spoiler: show
Independence
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 23, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
Still no correct answer. Keep trying!

Hint:
Spoiler: show
the word "lose" has more meanings than just the one you're thinking of...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: yeethaw_gang on March 23, 2020, 09:05:00 PM

Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

Okay guessing again,
Spoiler: show
A lawsuit? You don't want to lose a lawsuit
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Purple Wyrm on March 24, 2020, 12:11:54 AM
Nobody wants to have me, but whoever has me, doesn't want to lose me. What am I?

How about...
Spoiler: show

A lovely horse!

(I honestly have no idea - I just wanted to join in ;D)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 24, 2020, 05:08:51 AM
Okay guessing again,
Spoiler: show
A lawsuit? You don't want to lose a lawsuit


And that... is... CORRECT! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: yeethaw_gang on March 24, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
Alright, I've got one.

I shave everyday, yet my beard stays the same. Who am I?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Purple Wyrm on March 24, 2020, 09:07:14 AM
I shave everyday, yet my beard stays the same. Who am I?

Spoiler: show
A Barber!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on March 24, 2020, 08:02:00 PM
I shave everyday, yet my beard stays the same. Who am I?
Spoiler: show

You shave, but your beard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)) doesn't?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: yeethaw_gang on March 24, 2020, 10:53:57 PM
Spoiler: show
A Barber!


Yes! That's correct!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on March 24, 2020, 11:25:08 PM
That’s interesting, JoB. The slang term I know for that usage is ‘bonnet’. I think it derives from the Elizabethan English term for somebody whose presence conceals that of another, as in a case of religious or political persecution where an extra person hiding in a household is covered for and has food brought in for them by somebody else who has legitimate reasons for coming and going from the household. Funny where words come from.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on March 25, 2020, 07:50:55 AM
You shave, but your beard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)) doesn't?

I didn't knew the term. You keep your ability to show fascinating things, my friend.

(you don't mind me calling you a friend, do you? With many Minnions I have the feeling that I know you so well, and we "talk" so many times...)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on March 25, 2020, 09:02:50 AM
Okay, have another riddle. One of my personal favorites, it's from a book I've read.

The one who makes me doesn't need me, the one who pays for me doesn't use me and the one who uses me doesn't know about it. What am I?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on March 25, 2020, 03:29:48 PM
I didn't knew the term. You keep your ability to show fascinating things, my friend.
I didn't, either, but when you're trying to answer a question with a twist, looking up the terms used for secondary meanings sorta is snark 101. ;)

(you don't mind me calling you a friend, do you? With many Minnions I have the feeling that I know you so well, and we "talk" so many times...)
(Muahahaaa, another one fooled into putting in the extra "r" ... >:D )

The one who makes me doesn't need me, the one who pays for me doesn't use me and the one who uses me doesn't know about it. What am I?
Spoiler: show

The usual solution is "a casket", but of course, several other funeral paraphernalia qualify as well.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on March 25, 2020, 05:37:42 PM
(Muahahaaa, another one fooled into putting in the extra "r" ... >:D )
A fiendr?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 08, 2020, 09:07:25 AM
Okay, I promised to post a few riddles to keep the thread alive, so here they are:

What can travel around the world while staying in a corner?

What has many keys but can't open a single lock?

What has a bottom at the top?

I am an odd number. Take away a letter and I become even. What number am I?

If two's company, and three's a crowd, what are four and five?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on April 08, 2020, 09:35:20 AM
What has many keys but can't open a single lock?

My guess:
Spoiler: show
Keyboard? Piano?


What has a bottom at the top?

My guess:
Spoiler: show
Ketchup bottle :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on April 08, 2020, 09:45:55 AM
I am an odd number. Take away a letter and I become even. What number am I?

Spoiler: show
7
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 08, 2020, 09:49:49 AM
My guess:
Spoiler: show
Keyboard? Piano?


My guess:
Spoiler: show
Ketchup bottle :)

Yes and no.

I am an odd number. Take away a letter and I become even. What number am I?

Spoiler: show
7

That is correct. Pretty easy, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 08, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
What can travel around the world while staying in a corner?
Spoiler: show
A postage stamp!


Quote
What has a bottom at the top?
Spoiler: show
A stool that's being sat on hehe


Quote
If two's company, and three's a crowd, what are four and five?
Silly guess but
Spoiler: show
numbers!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on April 08, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
If two's company, and three's a crowd, what are four and five?

Completely silly guess, but...
Spoiler: show
Four are two companies  O_O
Five is a crowded company (that's even worse...  O_O  O_O)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 08, 2020, 06:43:28 PM
Spoiler: show
A postage stamp!

Spoiler: show
A stool that's being sat on hehe

Silly guess but
Spoiler: show
numbers!

Yes, no, but close and no, but close. Try again!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on April 09, 2020, 03:31:09 AM

"I am an odd number. Take away a letter and I become even. What number am I?"

Yes and no.
That is correct. Pretty easy, wasn't it?

It was, once I went engineer and starter systemically from square 1 :) Before that, I spent a while wondering in circles.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 09, 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Yes, no, but close and no, but close. Try again!
Alright trying again for the middle one:

What has a bottom at the top?
Spoiler: show
I almost went with "toilet," but I realize now that it's "legs, isn't it?

I'll have to think a bit longer on another answer to your last riddle!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 09, 2020, 07:06:13 PM
Alright trying again for the middle one:
Spoiler: show
I almost went with "toilet," but I realize now that it's "legs, isn't it?

I'll have to think a bit longer on another answer to your last riddle!
Yup.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on April 09, 2020, 07:12:19 PM
If two's company, and three's a crowd, what are four and five?
It's simple.
Spoiler: show
Nine.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 10, 2020, 05:52:49 AM
It's simple.
Spoiler: show
Nine.

Of course.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 10, 2020, 04:01:08 PM
Alright, I've got an Old English riddle for you all:

I war oft against wave     and fight against wind,
do battle with both,     when I reach to the ground,
covered by the waters.     The land is strange to me.
I am strong in the strife     if I stay at rest.
If I fail at that,     they are stronger than I
and forthwith they wrench me     and put me to rout.
They would carry away     what I ought to defend.
I withstand them then     if my tail endures
and the stones hold me fast.     Ask what my name is.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 10, 2020, 04:34:12 PM
fight against wind
Spoiler: show
Windfighter?

(Sorry, I'mma go hide.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 10, 2020, 07:15:00 PM
Spoiler: show
Windfighter?

(Sorry, I'mma go hide.)
hehehehe nope
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 11, 2020, 03:18:04 AM
Maybe kelp or some similar seaweed?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Purple Wyrm on April 11, 2020, 05:29:37 AM
 Maybe?

Spoiler: show
A sail?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 11, 2020, 06:28:51 AM
While on the subject of the Anglo Saxon riddle poems: I think I mentioned that some of them sound a lot more risqué than they actually are (don’t worry, the answers are actually quite decent).

I have a head and I stand in a bed.
Rough is my root.
I bring tears to the eyes of many a tender maiden.

And:
There is a thing that hangs below his belt.
Stiff and stout, it swivels about.
When the man who owns it returns from a journey
Often it fills a well-known hole.
Now it fills it again.

And Wyrm, your answer to Mebediel’s riddle sounds more likely than mine!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Alkia on April 11, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
While on the subject of the Anglo Saxon riddle poems: I think I mentioned that some of them sound a lot more risqué than they actually are (don’t worry, the answers are actually quite decent).

And:
There is a thing that hangs below his belt.
Stiff and stout, it swivels about.
When the man who owns it returns from a journey
Often it fills a well-known hole.
Now it fills it again.

Spoiler: show
a sword?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 11, 2020, 08:35:18 AM
No. Neither sword or dagger. But good guess.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on April 11, 2020, 09:11:57 AM
While on the subject of the Anglo Saxon riddle poems: I think I mentioned that some of them sound a lot more risqué than they actually are (don’t worry, the answers are actually quite decent).

I have a head and I stand in a bed.
Rough is my root.
I bring tears to the eyes of many a tender maiden.

And:
There is a thing that hangs below his belt.
Stiff and stout, it swivels about.
When the man who owns it returns from a journey
Often it fills a well-known hole.
Now it fills it again.

For the second riddle, would it be a key?

As for the first one, I'm not sure of the specifics, but it sounds maybe like some kind of root vegetable? Perhaps a radish - they can be a bit spicy and thus bring tears to a maiden's eye.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on April 11, 2020, 11:04:56 AM
Wait. The first one of Roisin's riddles. I was lying in bed when I suddenly had a revelation. Is it
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an onion?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 11, 2020, 01:14:38 PM
Maybe kelp or some similar seaweed?
Maybe?

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A sail?

Nope and nope, although you're both close in different ways!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on April 11, 2020, 01:17:43 PM
Mebediel:

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a breakwater?



Róisín:

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first one, garlic or horseradish?

second I'm pretty sure I've seen before, and it's a key
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 11, 2020, 02:30:39 PM
Well done! Onion and key it is! Keys back then were usually larger than our modern ones, and were carried on a thong attached to the belt.

And Mebediel, I just had another thought...would your answer perhaps be an anchor?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on April 11, 2020, 07:56:47 PM
And Mebediel, I just had another thought...would your answer perhaps be an anchor?
It is indeed! Although good guess, thorny, with the breakwater :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on April 11, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
I was also thinking about a breakwater but didn’t know what that is called :) Róisín, the key riddle really is quite naughty:)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 12, 2020, 02:02:28 AM
Many of the AngloSaxon riddles were intended to look that way but to have innocuous answers, like the key and onion ones - ‘stands in a bed’, forsooth! Others ......weren’t the least bit safe for work, including some of the Welsh and Roman riddles.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on April 12, 2020, 05:01:28 AM
I was also thinking about a breakwater but didn’t know what that is called :) Róisín, the key riddle really is quite naughty:)
I'm pretty sure it was on purpose, like "of course it's a key, what were you thinking of, pervert?" type of thing.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on April 12, 2020, 05:05:27 AM
 Yeah, I think that was the intent.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
This thread is ours and keep it alive we shall! More riddles for you to take your brain off the COVID-19 related matters!

#1: During which month do people sleep the least?

#2: What is made of water but if you put it into water it will die?

#3: What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?

#4: There was a green house. Inside the green house there was a white house. Inside the white house there was a red house. Inside the red house there were lots of babies. What is it?

#5: Which word in the dictionary is spelled incorrectly?

#6: If you have me, you want to share me. If you share me, you haven't got me. What am I?

#7: A man is pushing his car along the road when he comes to a hotel. He shouts, "I'm bankrupt!" Why?

And that'll be enough for now. Have fun guessing, and if you've got some cool riddles, post them here too!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 06, 2020, 08:29:00 AM
Is 1 March?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on May 06, 2020, 08:32:21 AM
Would number 2 be ice? Because ice is water but it melts in water
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 08:35:41 AM
Is 1 March?
I'm afraid it is not. Good luck on your second try!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 06, 2020, 09:23:45 AM
Is #5 ’incorrectly’?

Good of you to come up with more! I’m not very good with these but it’s a fun thread to follow!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Grade E cat on May 06, 2020, 09:24:01 AM
#6: A secret?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 06, 2020, 09:27:02 AM
#3 a towel?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
Is #5 ’incorrectly’?

Good of you to come up with more! I’m not very good with these but it’s a fun thread to follow!
#6: A secret?
#3 a towel?
Yes to all three. I need to find some more difficult riddles, these are getting solved too quickly.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 06, 2020, 09:50:24 AM
I'll just add my guess to #1

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February :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 10:16:42 AM
I'll just add my guess to #1

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February :)

Yup. It's really obvious in hindsight, isn't it? Then again, answers to all good riddles are...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 06, 2020, 11:02:04 AM
#1: During which month do people sleep the least?

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February? It's got the fewest nights in it.



#5: Which word in the dictionary is spelled incorrectly?

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Answered, I think: that's got to be "incorrectly".



#7: A man is pushing his car along the road when he comes to a hotel. He shouts, "I'm bankrupt!" Why?

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Is he playing Monopoly? He's using the car token; and he landed on an expensive space with a hotel on it and can't pay the hotel rent.


ETA: whoops, fast moving thread.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
#1: During which month do people sleep the least?

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February? It's got the fewest nights in it.



#5: Which word in the dictionary is spelled incorrectly?

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Answered, I think: that's got to be "incorrectly".



#7: A man is pushing his car along the road when he comes to a hotel. He shouts, "I'm bankrupt!" Why?

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Is he playing Monopoly? He's using the car token; and he landed on an expensive space with a hotel on it and can't pay the hotel rent.


ETA: whoops, fast moving thread.
#1 and #5 are correct, but they've already been answered. #7 is absolutely correct.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 06, 2020, 01:46:27 PM
This thread is ours and keep it alive we shall! More riddles for you to take your brain off the COVID-19 related matters!
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(1, 5, 6, 7 already answered like I would have.)
ad 2. I don't think many people would call a melting ice cube "dying", so let me upgrade to a snowman.
ad 3. I immediately went "desiccant", as in drying a room / its walls, because they IIUC come in boxes so that condensed water dripping off of them gets collected, but "towel" is a good one too, even though they don't usually get dripping wet.
ad 4. Well, "white" ...
(https://static.turbosquid.com/Preview/001199/519/FH/3D-watermelon-slice_0.jpg)


Yup. It's really obvious in hindsight, isn't it?
Well, let me offer an upgrade </Neo voice>, then ...

All Europeans know that October is the longest month there, thanks to the EU (and some more nations around it) switching back from DST in October and thus adding an hour to it. But how long exactly can it get, as a theoretical maximum?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 06, 2020, 04:55:57 PM
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(1, 5, 6, 7 already answered like I would have.)
ad 2. I don't think many people would call a melting ice cube "dying", so let me upgrade to a snowman.
ad 3. I immediately went "desiccant", as in drying a room / its walls, because they IIUC come in boxes so that condensed water dripping off of them gets collected, but "towel" is a good one too, even though they don't usually get dripping wet.
ad 4. Well, "white" ...
(https://static.turbosquid.com/Preview/001199/519/FH/3D-watermelon-slice_0.jpg)

Well, let me offer an upgrade </Neo voice>, then ...

All Europeans know that October is the longest month there, thanks to the EU (and some more nations around it) switching back from DST in October and thus adding an hour to it. But how long exactly can it get, as a theoretical maximum?
'Tis correct.

Hmm, that would be all of them. You people are too good at this.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on May 06, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
An oldie, from memory, so probably a bit botched...

Nilly Nelly Netticoat
In a white petticoat
With a white nose.
The longer she stands
The shorter she grows.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 07, 2020, 12:37:22 AM
#1 and #5 are correct, but they've already been answered. #7 is absolutely correct.

Yeehah! Three out of three; even if two of them were late.

(um. we'll ignore the four I didn't answer . . .)



Nilly Nelly Netticoat
In a white petticoat
With a white nose.
The longer she stands
The shorter she grows.


I'm pretty sure I've seen this one; maybe back in my childhood.

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A candle? Presumably one made with white wax, and "standing" lit.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 07, 2020, 04:59:30 AM
I thought it might be candle, but the version I know says ‘red nose’ for the flame.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on May 11, 2020, 08:23:50 PM
I thought it might be candle, but the version I know says ‘red nose’ for the flame.

Hah, I said I probably botched it, didn't I?   :-[

Yes, a candle. I'm so terrible at these I can't even pose them properly, let alone answer them! :'D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 11, 2020, 09:56:11 PM
Heh, I had forgotten that riddle! Nice to be reminded.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 07:25:46 AM
Alright everybody, this time I looked specifically for hard riddles, so hopefully this one will not be a cakewalk. Let's go!

#1: I am something people love or hate. I change peoples appearances and thoughts. If a person takes care of themself I will go up even higher. To some people, I will fool them. To others, I am a mystery. Some people might want to try and hide me but I will show. No matter how hard people try I will never go down. What am I?

#2: Only one color, but not one size,
Stuck at the bottom, yet easily flies.
Present in sun, but not in rain,
Doing no harm, and feeling no pain.
What is it?

#3: Who is that with a neck and no head, two arms and no hands? What is it?

#4: If eleven plus two equals one, what does nine plus five equal?

#5: Can you write down eight eights so that they add up to one thousand?

#6: What English word retains the same pronunciation, even after you take away four of its five letters?

#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?

Have fun solving these ones!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 12, 2020, 07:42:05 AM
...
Have fun solving these ones!

Thanks, Ran! A few guesses:

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#3 A Taylor's mannequin?


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#5 888+88+8+8+8 = 1000

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 07:44:28 AM
Thanks, Ran! A few guesses:

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#3 A Taylor's mannequin?


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#5 888+88+8+8+8 = 1000

No and yes.   ;D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 12, 2020, 07:56:40 AM
3 A cross?

6 Queue?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 07:59:14 AM
3 A cross?

6 Queue?
Again, no and yes.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 12, 2020, 11:45:56 AM
Alright everybody, this time I looked specifically for hard riddles, so hopefully this one will not be a cakewalk. Let's go!

OK, let me try this without looking at any intervening posts first:

#1: I am something people love or hate. I change peoples appearances and thoughts. If a person takes care of themself I will go up even higher. To some people, I will fool them. To others, I am a mystery. Some people might want to try and hide me but I will show. No matter how hard people try I will never go down. What am I?

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Age?


#2: Only one color, but not one size,
Stuck at the bottom, yet easily flies.
Present in sun, but not in rain,
Doing no harm, and feeling no pain.
What is it?

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Shadow?


#3: Who is that with a neck and no head, two arms and no hands? What is it?

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A turtleneck shirt or sweater?


Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 12:15:02 PM
OK, let me try this without looking at any intervening posts first:

#1: I am something people love or hate. I change peoples appearances and thoughts. If a person takes care of themself I will go up even higher. To some people, I will fool them. To others, I am a mystery. Some people might want to try and hide me but I will show. No matter how hard people try I will never go down. What am I?

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Age?


#2: Only one color, but not one size,
Stuck at the bottom, yet easily flies.
Present in sun, but not in rain,
Doing no harm, and feeling no pain.
What is it?

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Shadow?


#3: Who is that with a neck and no head, two arms and no hands? What is it?

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A turtleneck shirt or sweater?

Yes, yes and yes. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 12, 2020, 03:02:18 PM
#4: If eleven plus two equals one, what does nine plus five equal?
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Two (o'clock, or modulo-12 arithmetic for us mathematicians).


#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?
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Copies?
(Being given a photocopy of a paper of yours, you now have two copies, but given a copy of, say, a Rolex, you actually have no real Rolex.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
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Two (o'clock, or modulo-12 arithmetic for us mathematicians).

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Copies?
(Being given a photocopy of a paper of yours, you now have two copies, but given a copy of, say, a Rolex, you actually have no real Rolex.)

Yes and no.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 12, 2020, 03:27:13 PM
#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?
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A twin?
(Given the presence of one, he's either your child and you have two, or someone else's.)
(Granted, it's ignoring the possibility that you had twins for children several times.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 12, 2020, 03:32:33 PM

#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?


I know its not the answer, but that occurred to me:

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A Schrödinger Box with two cats inside :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 12, 2020, 03:59:18 PM
I know its not the answer, but that occurred to me:

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A Schrödinger Box with two cats inside :)

It's good that you know it's not the answer.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 12, 2020, 05:11:44 PM
I have a couple too!

J1: Narrow sounds, long capes, rock at every end. What is it?

J2: When I carry you, you get tired but I don’t. Who am I?

J3: I have no mouth yet I speak, no ears yet I hear, and answer in all language of the world. Who am I?

J4: It can fit in through the window, but won’t exit through the door. What is it?

J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.

These are “Finnish riddles” translated by yours truly. I don’t think most are particularly Finnish though :)




Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: lumilaulu on May 12, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
J3: I have no mouth yet I speak, no ears yet I hear, and answer in all language of the world. Who am I?
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An echo?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Noodles on May 12, 2020, 09:02:40 PM
J2:
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a bicycle?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 12, 2020, 09:52:33 PM
Yes, yes and yes. Congratulations!

Woohoo!

-- however I have no clue, at least right now, on any of the rest of today's.

ETA: at least, unless J3 is
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Alexa
.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on May 12, 2020, 11:08:16 PM
Is J4
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sunlight?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 13, 2020, 01:16:30 AM

J2: When I carry you, you get tired but I don’t. Who am I?

Noodles, good guess but not the correct one

J3: I have no mouth yet I speak, no ears yet I hear, and answer in all language of the world. Who am I?

Lumilaulu, yes

Thorny, haha ;D but no

J4: It can fit in through the window, but won’t exit through the door. What is it?

Keep looking yes
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 13, 2020, 06:23:24 AM
J1: Narrow sounds, long capes, rock at every end. What is it?
I'm not sure that I even understand the question ... what is a "narrow sound", unless we're talking about this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_(geography)) kind?
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... I guess the answer should be something like "a coastline" ...


J2: When I carry you, you get tired but I don’t. Who am I?
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A supporter of yours filibuster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster)ing. >:D


J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.
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An insomniac's night gown? >:D
The candle that, upon nightfall, gets taken out of the box and placed into the candleholder that goes onto one's bedside table?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 13, 2020, 07:01:53 AM
JoB yes, that kind of sound! But the answers aren’t correct :)

In Finnish the “narrow sound” in the riddle clearly means geographic sound or bay. So that is not the giat of it.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 13, 2020, 07:21:32 AM
Unless you are speaking Irish Gaelic, when it is a description of a type of pronunciation of a letter.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 13, 2020, 08:01:42 AM
JoB yes, that kind of sound! But the answers aren’t correct :)
Alright then [cracks skullknuckles] ...

J1: Narrow sounds, long capes, rock at every end. What is it?
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Irrigation ditches (which need to cut horizontally through slightly elevated parts of the terrain, and get blocked with rocks when a field at one end of a ditch currently doesn't need additional watering).


J2: When I carry you, you get tired but I don’t. Who am I?
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Water. (As in, no boat between the two, the person needs to swim.)


J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.
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... long hair (falling down on its owner's back while he is up and about)?
[my skullknuckles have failed me :-[ ]
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on May 13, 2020, 08:25:13 AM
Is J5
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shadows? Because during the day they lie flat to the ground, but in the night (especially moonless nights) they seem to surround you. Then again, moonlit nights have exceptionally sharp shadows.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 13, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
In J5

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A Fjord? (extrapolating from Jitter's comment and JoB's attempts)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 13, 2020, 09:18:24 AM
I have a confession to make: I'm not good with riddles. But you people seem to be, since you've solved almost every one of the difficult riddles I gave you... Almost, so I hope you don't mind if I repost the one you didn't find the answer yet, just so it doesn't get lost in the thread history.

#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 13, 2020, 02:32:06 PM
No on everything, but JoB is extremely close on J2 (carry/tired)

J5 is a very Finnish thing, not necessarily something you are familiar with in your everyday life
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Purple Wyrm on May 13, 2020, 08:14:29 PM
Not riddles exactly, but I have of late been compiling clues to put together a cryptic crossword, and figured I might as well try them out here.

They mostly rely on bits of obscure knowledge and having a particularly twisted mind, so are likely largely insolvable, but take a shot anyway!

CC1: Franklin's examination of bears flags (3,8,3,8)
CC2: Men and lions follow the rules in London's haunted field (3,4,8)
CC3: How weird to fill up horrors with man-made affection (1,1,9)
CC4: Between 100 and 150 PO Box Babies (3,6)
CC5: The angelic son of the valley men heralds the printing press (11)
CC6: The least needed former Melinae (5,6)
CC7: Oh who commands the city of the half haired hog? (5)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 14, 2020, 07:52:22 AM
Could somebody please work out what Ran's final one (of the current ones) is?

#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none

I keep turning it around in my mind but can't even form a guess that I wouldn't immediately see as wrong!

The best one I have is ARGUMENT, as in if somebody starts arguing with you you can either join them, and then you both are arguing, or not, and they can't really argue alone. But even then if you do go along with them, there's only one argument with two parties in it. Argh!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 15, 2020, 04:55:24 PM
No on everything, but JoB is extremely close on J2 (carry/tired)
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... air, then!?
("I just flew in from Moscow, and boy are my arms tired!")

Or, if getting hypothermia qualifies as "tired", an ice floe you're marooned on?


J5 is a very Finnish thing, not necessarily something you are familiar with in your everyday life
That starts to sound like something about the sauna ... :P
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As in, the ladle getting hung onto the wall or somesuch when the sauna's not being used during the night ...
Any chance that whatever "back" refers to happens not to be called the "back" of some larger object in other languages?
Or is there a custom to leave a book (say, the Bible) flipped open during the night?


Could somebody please work out what Ran's final one (of the current ones) is?
#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none
I keep turning it around in my mind but can't even form a guess that I wouldn't immediately see as wrong!
I'd already be happy if I could pinpoint what meaning the "given one" part is supposed to have ...
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"An answer to this riddle"? If I give one and it is correct, I "have two" in that I both gave it, and will keep it in mind for%§#ever ...

... aaaand as it turns out, it's easy enough to google ...


As for J1 ...
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... Palm Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Islands)? I suppose that the rock used in building them is most prominent in the breakwaters at the ends of the sandy island strips ...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 15, 2020, 05:30:22 PM
JoB!

On J2 you are now getting farther from the correct answer than before :)

On J1 you are again practically on top of the right answer but give the wrong one (as my dad often says, if it were a dog it would bite you by now).

J5 is not about the sauna, but again you are onto something!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mariiii on May 15, 2020, 06:56:39 PM
Is J2
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 a canoë ?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 15, 2020, 07:29:59 PM
Mariiii the original answer is rowboat, but I’ll take canoe :)

JoB, the boat carries you on top of the water :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 15, 2020, 07:46:27 PM
I'd already be happy if I could pinpoint what meaning the "given one" part is supposed to have ...
  • given the fact that there is one of it around
  • assuming that you already have one of it
  • if someone were to give one of it to you
  • if you were to give one to someone else
  • ... etc. ad nauseam
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"An answer to this riddle"? If I give one and it is correct, I "have two" in that I both gave it, and will keep it in mind for%§#ever ...

... aaaand as it turns out, it's easy enough to google ...

That is not, in fact, correct, but if I understood you correctly, you already know that, because you googled it. (Do I have to clarify that googling the answer is cheating?)

(If it turns out I misunderstood you, given one means that you get it from someone.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 15, 2020, 10:08:17 PM
JoB, the boat carries you on top of the water :)
Yes, and I'm not going to tire from that unless I make the independent decision to actually row it ...

(... which is maybe not a legit scenario in Saimaa, but anywhere there is enough of a current to take a boat downstream on its own ...)

if I understood you correctly, you already know that, because you googled it. (Do I have to clarify that googling the answer is cheating?)
Yes; no. But I have to say that I find it surprising that nobody here (besides you, of course) seems to remember having seen it before ...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 16, 2020, 03:15:13 AM
Yes; no. But I have to say that I find it surprising that nobody here (besides you, of course) seems to remember having seen it before ...
Well, I have to get those riddles from somewhere, don't you think?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 16, 2020, 05:54:55 AM
JoB, the land of a thousand* lakes! Rowboats have been a very important, in many places the chief means of transport in Finland since time untold. Not anymore of course, but if we were to return to unmotorized means, it would definitely make a spectacular comeback even if the land routes weren’t lethal. These are traditional riddles :)

*188000 and then some lakes to be more exact
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 16, 2020, 05:57:47 AM
On J1 you are again practically on top of the right answer but give the wrong one (as my dad often says, if it were a dog it would bite you by now).
German has that idiom, too. Can't say that I'm fond of nippy doggos, though. :-\
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"Narrow sounds, long capes", both plural. So it's not just "breakwaters" (no "narrow sound" between), "harbor entry" (even if protected by jettys, that's just one "sound"), "channels" (by definition, capes extend out into open water), or an entire harbor (same reason). Not to mention that all those facilities nowadays are usually built with concrete, not rock.

Some lake instead of the regular sea? Well, I suppose that Saimaa has lots of "narrow sounds", a number of "capes", if possibly not all "long" ones, and there's lots of rock in galcier-scraped Finland, but what would you specifically call an "end" there?

Still smaller? Tideways? There's not a lot of coast with tides in Finland, is there ...


J5 is not about the sauna, but again you are onto something!
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I'm getting more and more fond of the concept of a book that's flipped open on the table (= lies on its back) during the day, and gets put away into a bookshelf (= usually stands upright) for the night. There's no need to properly store a book away every evening in a private household, though, so it'd need to be something like a hotel's guestbook or a ledger in a bank. (And I don't think that many people would be using a cookbook every day all day long.) But of course none of those are "a very Finnish thing" ...

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... and if you feel the need to put your très Finnish Tom of Finland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_of_Finland) book out of sight at night, you certainly wouldn't leave it around all day, either ... :P
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 16, 2020, 06:19:46 AM
JoB you are thinking of the right shape now with the sounds and capes. But this is a riddle, remember :)

And yea the other thing is something that gets put away for the night. Not a book though.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 16, 2020, 06:42:20 AM
Hmm, when you say "very Finnish", I think of those traditional Finnish knives, whatever they were called, but I don't think "lying on their back" is their preferred position during the day...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 16, 2020, 06:58:09 AM
JoB you are thinking of the right shape now with the sounds and capes. But this is a riddle, remember :)
Well, if it's just about the shape ...
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... I have pondered to reply "a comb".
I would have hoped that them ancient Finns had carved their combs out of wood and not rock, though. O_o


And yea the other thing is something that gets put away for the night. Not a book though.
And you said that it's a "very Finnish" thing to do ...
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Given the regional social standards, Finns wouldn't happen to take the doormat inside and lean it against the windscreen wall as they go to bed, would they?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFY_P3jA_5BJSE1lQ7UQopz9xXVYpqFl6ZC0EkEqMeIL0xwXjB5w&s)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 16, 2020, 08:03:52 AM
Ran, a puukko goes the other way: stands upright (by hanging from the owner’s belt) by day, and may lie flat during the night when placed down to wait for morning (although alternatively it could also hang on a peg with the clothes). Good try!

JoB, it’s not a comb. Not entirely bad though! A further hint, you practically said it already, kind of like you mentioned the boat as part of your answer, which unfortunately was water :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: lumilaulu on May 16, 2020, 08:28:48 AM
But I have to say that I find it surprising that nobody here (besides you, of course) seems to remember having seen it before ...
I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me remember what the answer is.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 16, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
A further hint, you practically said it already, kind of like you mentioned the boat as part of your answer, which unfortunately was water :)
... palm trees!? :3
(If this continues, I'll have to rename my account to "SolvesEverythingAlmost" or "Mr. Close Shave" or somesuch ...)
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The term that appeared both times you told me I almost got it is "breakwater (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakwater_(structure))". I can see those qualifying as "long cape" and "rock at every end", and they can come in bunches and merit the plural, too, but they don't get packed so densely that I'd see them forming "narrow sounds" between adjacent ones ...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 16, 2020, 04:20:21 PM
Palm tree is the thing where you almost say the right answer :) Keep at it, you’ll get it eventually! Or if ylu get bored and want me to give the amswer, do let me know. You deserve to get for trying so hard.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 16, 2020, 04:52:40 PM
Palm tree is the thing where you almost say the right answer :) Keep at it, you’ll get it eventually! Or if ylu get bored and want me to give the amswer, do let me know. You deserve to get for trying so hard.
COULD IT BE BORNHOLM?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on May 16, 2020, 04:58:36 PM
COULD IT BE BORNHOLM?

  :)) :)) :))

I was puzzling over the rocks... are they rocks as in geology or something else? Like rock candy? Although I can't imagine how that would relate to sounds and capes, even metaphorical ones.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 16, 2020, 05:12:50 PM
Palm tree is the thing where you almost say the right answer :)
?!?!?!?

As for J1 ...
... Palm Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Islands)? I suppose that the rock used in building them is most prominent in the breakwaters at the ends of the sandy island strips ...
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I tried "palm (tree)" and "breakwater" by now, and "rock" and "ends" are direct quotes from the riddle, which pretty much leaves "island(s)" as the only specific noun/object not yet spoken for. However, generic islands aren't required to have anything that resembles sounds, capes, or rock. Not even generic islands of Finland, as far as I know. So, one or several specific island(s)? Fat chance that I know any specific Finnish ones ...

A different sense of "palm"? Palm of a hand? The fingers certainly make for the "sounds" and "capes", but even if you wear a lot of jewellery, you're not going to have "rock at every end" (of a finger), unless "rock" is somehow a nickname for a fingernail as well. (And trust me, fingernails are nowhere near being that indestructible.)

The shape of whatever letters that make up one of the words I'm carelessly looking past? The "m" in "palm" would fit the shape, I suppose. But again, a serif (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif) is a serif and not a "rock".

I was talking about "sand(y)" as well ... sand is (very small) rocks ... dunes?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 16, 2020, 05:20:32 PM
COULD IT BE BORNHOLM?
Attributing "narrow sounds" to Bornholm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholm#/media/File:Bornholm_luftaufnahme.jpg) might prove a wee bit difficult, and claiming it to be material of "traditional Finnish"ness ought to arrange for a boatload of visits to other islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmgang) for you. 8)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 16, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
It’s hand! The “rocks” are fingernails. Not that they are actually rock, but they are harder than the skin around. It’s not like there’s actually water in the “sounds” either :)

That was trickier than I thought. Many on the list are like that, the description is quite far fetched. The first one is “black hen brooding on red eggs” which is a pot over fire.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on May 22, 2020, 04:05:09 PM
No one's been able to solve Ran's 7th riddle yet, right? Unless I missed someone's answer while scrolling back through the thread. If it's still unanswered, I'll focus on taking a crack at it :P

#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?
An argument wasn't the correct answer, right?
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A...chance? idk
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 22, 2020, 07:13:49 PM
#7: What is it that given one, you'll have either two or none?
An argument wasn't the correct answer, right?
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A...chance? idk

No, but somewhat close.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Yastreb on May 22, 2020, 07:54:42 PM
No, but somewhat close.

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A glance?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 22, 2020, 08:24:26 PM
Ran, is it choice? Which is not a choice at all if you don’t have more than one possibilities? (But, you can have a choice of more than two alternatives so I don’t think it’s correct and I’ve abandoned it several times, but it being somewhat close to chance made me suggest this anyway)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 22, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
Ran, is it choice? Which is not a choice at all if you don’t have more than one possibilities? (But, you can have a choice of more than two alternatives so I don’t think it’s correct and I’ve abandoned it several times, but it being somewhat close to chance made me suggest this anyway)
Yes, it is. Congratulations. I'll try to post some more riddles in the morning, but now I need to sleep.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 23, 2020, 06:40:11 AM
Finally! That was a good one!

One of mine is still unsolved:

J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.
 
I’ll a pdd a couple new ones. These all relate to a northern theme.

J6: The wingless one sits on a branch. The mouthless one comes and eats it.

J7: Old bucket, new lid every year.

J8: I’m alive in winter, dead in summer, I grow with my roots above me. Who am I?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 23, 2020, 06:47:54 AM
Okay, sleep time over, it's riddle time now! Hopefully these will be of appropriate difficulty.

#1: There was a man who was born before his father, killed his mother, and married his sister. Yet, there was nothing wrong with what he had done. Why?

#2: It is a 5 letter word if you take away the first letter it is something you get from the sun, if you remove the second letter you will get something to eat, if you remove the third letter you get a word you use in pointing at and if you remove the fourth letter you get something to drink. What is it?

#3: Three playing cards in a row. Can you name them with these clues? There is a two to the right of a king. A diamond will be found to the left of a spade. An ace is to the left of a heart. A heart is to the left of a spade. Now, identify all three cards.

#4: What was never scared but became petrified, can't make a bird but can make a bat, can't live in a house but would die to have one.  What is it?

#5: Which word is the odd one out: Seventy, Brawl, Clover, Proper, Carrot, Swing, Change, Travel, Sacred, Stone?

#6: What is significant about 3661 seconds past midnight on 1st January 2001?

#7: My thunder comes before the lightning; My lightning comes before the clouds; My rain dries all the land it touches. What am I?

I've chosen these riddles to be exceptionally difficult. Let me know how you find them. If they're too hard, I'll try to make the next batch a bit easier. Meanwhile, have fun solving!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 23, 2020, 09:26:39 AM
J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.
Well, since my guessing around the concept of a book apparently was no good ...
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The plate you eat your dinner from, and that you leave propped upright next to the sink overnight after washing to let it dry?

 
J6: The wingless one sits on a branch. The mouthless one comes and eats it.
... do I understand correctly that the same word, possibly with different meanings, is supposed to name both "the wingless one" and "the mouthless one"? (Because otherwise, there'd probably be like a bajillion possibilities, starting with a leaf / winter ...)

J7: Old bucket, new lid every year.
That sounds like a question for people who go to hairdressers or hatters more often than I do. O0
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A pond that freezes over during the winter.


J8: I’m alive in winter, dead in summer, I grow with my roots above me. Who am I?
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An icicle.


#1: There was a man who was born before his father, killed his mother, and married his sister. Yet, there was nothing wrong with what he had done. Why?
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He was born "before" his father as in "in front of his eyes", his mother died during the birth, and the marriage happened in a church where the acolytes all call each other "brother" and "sister".


#2: It is a 5 letter word if you take away the first letter it is something you get from the sun, if you remove the second letter you will get something to eat, if you remove the third letter you get a word you use in pointing at and if you remove the fourth letter you get something to drink. What is it?
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I note that there's a missing comma that could be missing either after "word" or after "first letter", but that's all I got so far ...


#3: Three playing cards in a row. Can you name them with these clues? There is a two to the right of a king. A diamond will be found to the left of a spade. An ace is to the left of a heart. A heart is to the left of a spade. Now, identify all three cards.
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🃁🂾🂢


#4: What was never scared but became petrified, can't make a bird but can make a bat, can't live in a house but would die to have one.  What is it?
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A tree.


#5: Which word is the odd one out: Seventy, Brawl, Clover, Proper, Carrot, Swing, Change, Travel, Sacred, Stone?
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"Sacred" is not a noun (while "proper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_(liturgy))" can be)?
(By now, there are music albums etc. called "sacred (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_(disambiguation))", though ...)


#6: What is significant about 3661 seconds past midnight on 1st January 2001?
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That was 01.01.01 01:01:01.


#7: My thunder comes before the lightning; My lightning comes before the clouds; My rain dries all the land it touches. What am I?
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A little backwards. :P
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 23, 2020, 10:18:25 AM
Okay, I'm not qualified to reply for Jitter, but: almost; nope; yes; yes; no; yes; no. Three and two thirds out of seven is a much better result than I expected. You're way too good at this. I'm afraid I might not be smart enough to keep giving you riddles...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 23, 2020, 11:13:14 AM
#1: There was a man who was born before his father, killed his mother, and married his sister. Yet, there was nothing wrong with what he had done. Why?


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If we change the punctuation --
His father killed his mother and then married his sister. The man at the beginning of the question, who is the son of the man who did all that, did nothing wrong himself.


#2: It is a 5 letter word if you take away the first letter it is something you get from the sun, if you remove the second letter you will get something to eat, if you remove the third letter you get a word you use in pointing at and if you remove the fourth letter you get something to drink. What is it?

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Wheat?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 23, 2020, 11:56:30 AM
JoB, correct on J7 and J8. J6 is close (it’s two things). I should add J5 relates to the same common theme, and it’s not plates (which could work but are often stored flat after drying)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 23, 2020, 01:43:08 PM
almost
It's the last part I goofed up, right?
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Then he "married his sister" as in being the bride's attendant, the registrar, or the priest.


#2: It is a 5 letter word if you take away the first letter it is something you get from the sun, if you remove the second letter you will get something to eat, if you remove the third letter you get a word you use in pointing at and if you remove the fourth letter you get something to drink. What is it?
(I suspected that it'd be something along the lines that thorny's answer follows, too, and simultaneously it shows that my English vocabulary's not up to the task, so I'll step out of this one for now.)

#5: Which word is the odd one out: Seventy, Brawl, Clover, Proper, Carrot, Swing, Change, Travel, Sacred, Stone?
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"Carrot" is the only one not to result in another word when you leave the first and the last letter off.


#7: My thunder comes before the lightning; My lightning comes before the clouds; My rain dries all the land it touches. What am I?
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The thunderstorm symbol on the weather map?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPZkD6kBqDf6f7tTFVNt9cOyP-a0SRna-uGteg5spKFXGAibsJ&s)
It often depicts the lightning in front of the clouds, appears after the weather man started "thundering", and in order to stick it on the map, that latter better should have been dried (assuming that it got cleaned with water, like traditional chalkboard ones) ...


J6 is close (it’s two things).
Now I'm "close" without even making an attempt at a guess? O_o

I should add J5 relates to the same common theme, and it’s not plates
... growf??

J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.
J6: The wingless one sits on a branch. The mouthless one comes and eats it.
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If I assume that likening "the mouthless one" to winter/cold (*) is what got me "close", then J5 could well be laundry; your shirt can very well stand upright when it froze before being completely dry, but will flop onto its back when you try the same when, thanks to the sun, it has not yet frozen. And if you have enough branches around, you can hang your laundry on them instead of putting up a clothesline, of course. But what's with "wingless"? Because the shirt's flapping in the wind as if it were a wing?

(*) The metaphor that winter "eats" into one's stocks in spite of not having a mouth of its own IIUC is a rather widespread one.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 23, 2020, 08:20:57 PM
#1: There was a man who was born before his father, killed his mother, and married his sister. Yet, there was nothing wrong with what he had done. Why?


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If we change the punctuation --
His father killed his mother and then married his sister. The man at the beginning of the question, who is the son of the man who did all that, did nothing wrong himself.


#2: It is a 5 letter word if you take away the first letter it is something you get from the sun, if you remove the second letter you will get something to eat, if you remove the third letter you get a word you use in pointing at and if you remove the fourth letter you get something to drink. What is it?

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Wheat?

No changing punctuation and yes.

It's the last part I goofed up, right?
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Then he "married his sister" as in being the bride's attendant, the registrar, or the priest.

(I suspected that it'd be something along the lines that thorny's answer follows, too, and simultaneously it shows that my English vocabulary's not up to the task, so I'll step out of this one for now.)
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"Carrot" is the only one not to result in another word when you leave the first and the last letter off.

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The thunderstorm symbol on the weather map?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPZkD6kBqDf6f7tTFVNt9cOyP-a0SRna-uGteg5spKFXGAibsJ&s)
It often depicts the lightning in front of the clouds, appears after the weather man started "thundering", and in order to stick it on the map, that latter better should have been dried (assuming that it got cleaned with water, like traditional chalkboard ones) ...

Yes, yes and no.

All but one of my hardest riddles have been cracked in less than a day. I really am too stupid for this thread.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on May 24, 2020, 04:03:05 AM
(pssst, no - says a person who has not hazarded a guess thus far)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 24, 2020, 07:21:57 AM
Ran, I think your riddles are pretty good.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 24, 2020, 07:52:07 AM
Evidently not good enough.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 24, 2020, 09:14:25 AM
Too hard are boring! Yours are just right. And it’s thanks to you we have this thread in the first place!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 24, 2020, 10:31:30 AM
Riddles so hard that nobody could get them would first be frustrating, then cause loss of interest.

And note that some of us aren't posting any at all. It's harder to come up with them than it is to solve them.

And also note that no one person has gotten the whole batch. You're dealing with a lot of different guessers who know a lot of different things; so of course the batch of us together are going to get more riddles than any one of us could alone.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 24, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
Ran, I second everything thorny and Jitter said!

I'm enjoying a lot this thread and your riddles, even if I just managed a few guesses. :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on May 24, 2020, 07:58:44 PM
Am also enjoying the riddles...if all of them are too difficult, then it gets frustrating :P And most of the answers that other people keep getting right are things I would never have guessed in a million years.

#7: My thunder comes before the lightning; My lightning comes before the clouds; My rain dries all the land it touches. What am I?
Okay I have literally no idea what this is so I'm going to throw spaghetti on the wall:
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The thunder = my stomach when I'm hungry
the lightening = my lightening speed to eat the tasty food
The clouds = my shadow hovering over the food
My rain = mmmmmm my mouth
The land = the food
It doesn't quite work but please enjoy my attempt
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 25, 2020, 04:01:47 AM
You see, from my perspective, harder riddles are better because they take longer to solve, meaning I don't have to spend as much time keeping track of this thread. But that's a moot point as it currently stands because even my hardest riddles get solved at a pace I simply cannot keep up with, not without spending hours every other day looking for new riddles to post. It would be easier if more people posted their own riddles, but as it is now, I might be soon forced to abandon this thread, at least for a time.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 25, 2020, 06:07:47 AM
You see, from my perspective, harder riddles are better because they take longer to solve, meaning I don't have to spend as much time keeping track of this thread. But that's a moot point as it currently stands because even my hardest riddles get solved at a pace I simply cannot keep up with, not without spending hours every other day looking for new riddles to post. It would be easier if more people posted their own riddles, but as it is now, I might be soon forced to abandon this thread, at least for a time.

Ran, just because you started it doesn't mean that you have to keep feeding it with new riddles every day. Just do that when you find some time to search for more and you are in the mood for it.

Meanwhile Jitter and Róisín had already posted some, and I'll try to find a few.

Anyway I'm sure that, however hard they are, our bunch of smart people will solve them. But that's one of the reasons for us to enjoy each other, right? :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 25, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
One I have heard from Estonian, Finnish and oddly, Highland Scots people in various forms is:
‘Bunched up in a safe circle, curled up beneath a stone, or above the stone on a sunny day, or in a disc at the foot of a stump. Who is this?’
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on May 25, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
‘Bunched up in a safe circle, curled up beneath a stone, or above the stone on a sunny day, or in a disc at the foot of a stump. Who is this?’

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I would assume it to be a snake, personally - although I suppose that might not be such a common thing in Finland, Estonia or Scotland (isn't the only snake they have in Finland that adder that doesn't even cause serious injury? Maybe my standards for snakes are weird, because I always expect them to be deadly). Some kind of reptile, at least. I'm still going with the snake.


And Ran, I know I haven't been the most active person on this board, but your riddles are good, and the fact that you started this board is also really cool! Anyway, the speed at which they are solved is probably helped by the number of people working on them.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 25, 2020, 09:48:33 AM
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I would assume it to be a snake, personally - although I suppose that might not be such a common thing in Finland, Estonia or Scotland (isn't the only snake they have in Finland that adder that doesn't even cause serious injury? Maybe my standards for snakes are weird, because I always expect them to be deadly). Some kind of reptile, at least. I'm still going with the snake.

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A bite from the common adder can kill children, elderly, or already-ill people. It's the "if left untreated for a couple days" part that's hard to come by in Europe.
FWIW, while the estimates for the number of snake species on the planet vary by more than a factor of two, the portion of snakes with venom of medical concern for humans only ranges between 1/5 and 1/4. As usual, fauna facts turn interesting when you look at Australia, of course.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on May 25, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
Ran, just because you started it doesn't mean that you have to keep feeding it with new riddles every day. Just do that when you find some time to search for more and you are in the mood for it.

This, exactly.

For one thing, other people can post some. For another, if the thread goes quiet for a while from time to time when nobody's thought of anything to post, it can always be revived when somebody, whether RanVor or somebody else, does think of something. This is supposed to be fun, not work!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 25, 2020, 03:39:06 PM
Finland has adders, which are the only appreciably venomous animals here. In addition we have non-venomous grass snakes (Natrix natrix) and smooth snakes (Coronella austriaca), the latter of which only lives on Åland.

If it’s not a snake, is it a lizard? We have one species, the viviparous lizard (Zootoca vivipara). They are lovely!

Oh in addition to the viviparous lizard (which has a nice name in Finnish: sisilisko) we also have one species of legless lizard or slowworm (Anguis fragilis) which looks like a snake but isn’t.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on May 25, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
One I have heard from Estonian, Finnish and oddly, Highland Scots people in various forms is:
‘Bunched up in a safe circle, curled up beneath a stone, or above the stone on a sunny day, or in a disc at the foot of a stump. Who is this?’

Man, I hate when people leave litter anywhere, but especially in natural places.  Apropos of nothing really, certainly not a stab at guessing.
And I echo the delight of others; thread necromancy recycling is delightful with such great content.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Keep Looking on May 25, 2020, 07:46:15 PM
Thanks for all the snake info, Róisín and Jitter! It's really interesting learning about the reptiles of other countries.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 26, 2020, 03:55:59 AM
Keep, you are welcome! I love Finland and love stuffing facts about it down the throat of anyone with an inkling of interest (and sometimes without). It’s also great that I learn new things myself or at least refresh my knowledge, not in this case but many others.

Wave this is nit thread recycling though, the thread was started by Ran just a while ago just to keep us entertained!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 26, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
Keep Looking, got it in one! The specific answer is an adder. And yeah, we Australians do have a disproportionate number of the world’s venomous snakes. I have been bitten by several of them, and have a scar on my face from one that made the attempt but did not succeed in fully envenoming me, and a nastier one on my wrist from a big lizard (which bit me hard while I was holding it so someone could remove a tick from its ear, poor thing).
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 26, 2020, 11:56:23 AM
Róisín, that must have been a nasty bite, since I believe that in Australia "a big lizard" is probably a crocodile, right? ;)

Here are a few riddles to feed Minnions insatiable hunger (all call then G+number to help differentiate if more people puts riddles simultaneously):

G1: Turn me on my side and I am everything. Cut me in half and I am nothing. What am I?

G2: What has a face and two hands but no arms or legs?

G3: What instrument can you hear but never see?

G4: What word begins and ends with an E but only has one letter?

G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”

       “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King

G6:
“First think of the person who lives in disguise,
Who deals in secrets and tells naught but lies,
Next tell me what’s always the last thing to mend,
The middle of middle and end of the end?
And finally give me the sound often heard,
During the search for a hard-to-find word.
Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?”

        “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire” by J.K. Rowling

I bet you guys will solve then all in less than 24h! :)

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 26, 2020, 12:18:49 PM
Let me limit myself to those I feel like sorta-kinda taking personal ...

G1: Turn me on my side and I am everything. Cut me in half and I am nothing. What am I?
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The figure 8, turning into the infinity symbol and the figure 0, respectively. Don't cut it wrong, though, or you'll have a 3. :3
(As a mathematician, I have to point out that something being infinite does not imply it's "everything" - as several infinite but actually sparse (in ℝ) sets of numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_number#/media/File:Number-systems.svg) demonstrate.)

G4: What word begins and ends with an E but only has one letter?
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An envelope - unless you buy a hybrid mail output management system including the consolidation feature from my employer. :P
(No, that's not the next riddle, that's our everyday technobabble.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 26, 2020, 01:02:20 PM
Let me limit myself to those I feel like sorta-kinda taking personal ...
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The figure 8, turning into the infinity symbol and the figure 0, respectively. Don't cut it wrong, though, or you'll have a 3. :3
(As a mathematician, I have to point out that something being infinite does not imply it's "everything" - as several infinite but actually sparse (in ℝ) sets of numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_number#/media/File:Number-systems.svg) demonstrate.)
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An envelope - unless you buy a hybrid mail output management system including the consolidation feature from my employer. :P
(No, that's not the next riddle, that's our everyday technobabble.)


Ah ah! Actually when I saw that you had answered the first that came to mind was "Well, JoB probably already solved them all. Let's get back on the search...".
Problems of dealing with very smart people (way better, believe me, than dealing with stupid people) :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 26, 2020, 01:29:50 PM
Riddles: G1 is the number 8, G2 a Clock or watch?

Grey, I have never been bitten by a croc, though I have been cut on the edges of the scales of one I was helping to butcher for eating up in PNG. The lizard that bit me was a stumpytail, one of those things that looks like a squashed pine cone with a bulbous tail, somewhat similar in appearance to a bluetongued lizard. They don’t have teeth but bite very hard.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on May 26, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
G3: What instrument can you hear but never see?
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Wind? Or voice
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 26, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
JoB is correct on G1 and G4!
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the number 8, and envelope


Róisín is correct on G1 and G2!
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A clock or watch


Mebediel is correct on G3!
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Your voice


Congratulations! It seems that it won't take more than 2 or 3 hours... As I said, a bunch of smart people! :D

Róisín, I check that stumpytail. It looks nice until it bites you... And I didn't knew that croc scales were sharp enough to cut...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 26, 2020, 02:34:20 PM
Sorry, I'm not going to answer anything now, I'm too tired and not really in the mood for riddles. I just wanted to say that I'm really glad to see the sudden surge of activity. Thank you, Grey!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 26, 2020, 02:39:05 PM
Sorry, I'm not going to answer anything now, I'm too tired and not really in the mood for riddles. I just wanted to say that I'm really glad to see the sudden surge of activity. Thank you, Grey!

I'm happy that you like it! :) Get some rest, and I'll go hunting for more riddles to feed the wolves minnions!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 26, 2020, 04:51:49 PM
Because of swift thread I repeat again:

J5: All day I lie on my back, at night I stand upright.

J6: The wingless one sits on a branch. The mouthless one comes and eats it.

J7: Old bucket, new lid every year. - Pond with ice cover (JoB)

J8: I’m alive in winter, dead in summer, I grow with my roots above me. Who am I? - Icicle (JoB)

All four relate to the same theme.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 26, 2020, 06:59:09 PM
My try
J6:
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Snow? It sits on branches, wingless, and is eaten by the mouthless sun


I had guessed right on J7 and J8, but JoB arrived first...

But I still don't have anything for J5
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 27, 2020, 02:09:42 AM
Grey, correct!

J5 still to go. With the hints of it being a Finnish (and Nordic) thing and the theme, you guys should be able to get it :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on May 27, 2020, 03:01:15 AM
Could J5 be a rifle? Or a sled?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 27, 2020, 04:17:18 AM
Could J5 be a rifle? Or a sled?

I guess Róisín got it!

So, nobody has any guesses on G5 and G6?

(now it looked like we were playing Battleship... :)  )
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 27, 2020, 06:01:28 AM
I guess Róisín got it!

So, nobody has any guesses on G5 and G6?

(now it looked like we were playing Battleship... :)  )
I feel G6 would be a...
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...spider?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 27, 2020, 06:54:30 AM
I feel G6 would be a...
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...spider?


  :sparkle: Well done!!!  :sparkle:

Now what about G5? Any guesses?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 27, 2020, 07:54:06 AM
G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”
       “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King
Now what about G5? Any guesses?
Well, if you insist on triggering a heated discussion ...
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virginity.  >:D


[edited for typo]
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 27, 2020, 09:05:44 AM
Well, if you insist on trigging a heated discussion ...
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virginity.  >:D


I see your point... but that's not an exact fit, neither is the right answer, according to Mr. King. ;)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 27, 2020, 10:02:34 AM
J5 is not a sled but now it's really really close!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 27, 2020, 10:10:57 AM
J5 is not a sled but now it's really really close!
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Skis?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 27, 2020, 11:19:55 AM
J5 is not a sled but now it's really really close!
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Skis?

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It may be just me, but I seriously don't see why the side of a sled or skis pointing downwards during use would be called its "back" ...

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J6 through J8, supposedly all sticking to the same "Northern" theme as well as J5, alluded to the change between summer and winter and the cold setting in during the latter. I start to wonder whether the "day" and "night" in this riddle are metaphors for summer and winter as well. In that case, and if it's a wintery implement, the orientation during use would supposedly be the upright one.

It's not a rowboat, either, though, to address the typical traditional mode of transportation in Saimaa. You may take a small rowboat out of the water both at night (so it doesn't float away) and during winter (so it doesn't get damaged by ice) and turn it over so that rain and snow won't accumulate inside it, but you don't stand it on end.

German has the idiom "they fold up the sidewalks at 6 PM" for a particularly rural/quiet/deserted settled area, that wouldn't happen to be based on an actual Finnish custom, would it?
(AmE prefers to speak of rolling up the sidewalks, I see.)

... the shutters you put on the ground floor windows during a winter that'll have your house snowed in 1+ stories high, to prevent the pressure from the snow breaking the glass?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 28, 2020, 10:17:31 AM
It is skis! Finally!

Funnily enough, for me a sled doesn't lie on its "back" when in use, but for the skis clearly the bottom is the "back". May have to do with the standing, whenever you put the skis upright  the top side is facing forward, so it's the "front" and therefore the bottom is the "back". Also the top has all the features (the locks as well as the patterns if there are any) so again makes it seem like the "front". The sled in turn can be facing whichever way when stored upright.

Now most Finns wouldn't use their skis all day nowadays, but I think I mentioned earlier that these are traditional riddles :) So way back when the winter was spent lumbering and hunting in the woods, they would have been in use a lot! Also the highways, i.e. the lakes, were travelled by skis after the lid ice cover was strong enough.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 28, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
Jitter, I liked the "thematic" riddles a lot! Once we "tune" with the theme things become even more interesting.

I'll try to find some more. Meanwhile, one is yet to be solved...

G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”

       “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 28, 2020, 03:33:41 PM
G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”
       “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King
That third line still loses me, but lemme make a guess based on the first two ...
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Firewood; no matter how much you chop it up, it will still burn, and its "work is done" when it has burnt out and gotten cold enough to touch.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 28, 2020, 06:25:30 PM
That third line still loses me, but lemme make a guess based on the first two ...
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Firewood; no matter how much you chop it up, it will still burn, and its "work is done" when it has burnt out and gotten cold enough to touch.


Sorry for the delay in answering, JoB. I'm afraid that's not the right answer. It could be, if the third line didn't exist...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Lenny on May 29, 2020, 02:59:30 AM
I'll take a shot /o/ Not completely sure about it, but hey, worth trying :3

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Ice? It's still ice if you break it and it can still cool things down, if you can hold it it has finished forming into ice, and if you lose it you'll find it with a ring of water around it (but if you wait too long it'll melt completely).
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 29, 2020, 04:55:15 AM
I'll take a shot /o/ Not completely sure about it, but hey, worth trying :3

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Ice? It's still ice if you break it and it can still cool things down, if you can hold it it has finished forming into ice, and if you lose it you'll find it with a ring of water around it (but if you wait too long it'll melt completely).


Nice try, Lenny. But that's not the right answer...

(don't be mad at me, be mad with Mr. King, but beware of irritating the man, because he has quite an imagination to create frightening things...)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on May 29, 2020, 06:26:37 AM
Dammit, I was going to say that the thing that lies on my back all day and stands at night was a jacket.  Ah well.

Perhaps, given your clue that Stephen King specialises in the frightening and macabre, G5 is an electrical circuit in an electric chair? 
How about *ahem* intestinal gas, aka breaking wind?  (You really don't want me to explain the part about the ring after this is lost, do you?)






Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 29, 2020, 07:00:08 AM
Dammit, I was going to say that the thing that lies on my back all day and stands at night was a jacket.  Ah well.

Perhaps, given your clue that Stephen King specialises in the frightening and macabre, G5 is an electrical circuit in an electric chair? 
How about *ahem* intestinal gas, aka breaking wind?  (You really don't want me to explain the part about the ring after this is lost, do you?)

I'm sorry, Wave, but none of those are correct. The answer in, indeed, frightening... evident, when you know it. :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 29, 2020, 07:30:51 AM
G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”

       “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King
My guess is...
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...SILENCE.

I tried to take a more metaphorical approach and even then it's more of a hunch than any solid reasoning, but maybe...?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 29, 2020, 07:54:19 AM
My guess is...
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...SILENCE.

I tried to take a more metaphorical approach and even then it's more of a hunch than any solid reasoning, but maybe...?

Sorry my friend, but this time the hunch isn't correct. Keep trying! :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 29, 2020, 09:23:37 AM
I tried to take a more metaphorical approach
Might be a good idea ... my next guess is:
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Freedom. People who lost theirs do wind up with iron "rings" around various body parts and trying to regain it, right?


Sorry for the delay in answering, JoB.
(It's not really a race, is it? ;) )
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on May 29, 2020, 12:25:54 PM
Might be a good idea ... my next guess is:
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Freedom. People who lost theirs do wind up with iron "rings" around various body parts and trying to regain it, right?

(It's not really a race, is it? ;) )

Sorry again for the delay, JoB. Of course it's not a race, but it's nice that your answer is validated, or not, in the shortest time.
So I'll keep checking this thread often in the coming times, because your answer is not the right one. It's quite metaphorical, but don't work that well with the two initial lines...

Let me just add that it's not that hard, it just needs to be looked in the right way. (this is not a hidden tip, OK?). I'm sure you guys will solve it soon. :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 29, 2020, 02:41:35 PM
Here’s a few more. These are still old Finnish riddles, and still translated by me.

J9: First we skin the hide, then we shear the wool. What are we doing?

J10: Five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them

J11: I go far, yet I don’t move. Who am I?

J12: Tiny flea gors to the forest, even a thousand horses can bring it back home. What is it?

J13: The longer I am, the better. The thicker I am, the better. Mostly I’m used at night. Who am I?





Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 29, 2020, 03:56:54 PM
J10: Five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them
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A hand reaching for something - five fingers, and human palms (as well as the soles of our feet) are notoriously hairless.

J11: I go far, yet I don’t move. Who am I?
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Eyesight? A yell/voice?

J12: Tiny flea gors to the forest, even a thousand horses can bring it back home. What is it?
(Any chance that that ought to read "goes" and "cannot"?)

J13: The longer I am, the better. The thicker I am, the better. Mostly I’m used at night. Who am I?
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Why, the duvet, of course!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 29, 2020, 05:06:44 PM
Yes indeed, let’s try and spell somewhat correctly:

J12 A tiny flea goes to the forest, even a thousand horses cannot bring it back home. What is it?

As for your guesses JoB, very good but not the answers we were looking for.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on May 29, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
J10: Five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them
Five brothers fleeing from a skinhead.

(Yes, it's a joke.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 29, 2020, 06:20:24 PM
Sadly, it could be. But isn’t. Also the riddle is older than that :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: phocena on May 29, 2020, 06:31:13 PM
Reading this thread makes me realize I would die in any horror movie where the protagonists have to solve a riddle ;D.

J11:
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a road?


Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 29, 2020, 07:14:58 PM
phocena, correct on J11!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on May 30, 2020, 06:09:50 AM
J9: First we skin the hide, then we shear the wool. What are we doing?
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You're going to the barber (where you take off your jacket first).
Don't forget to take your mask along. ::)

J10: Five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them
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I have a hunch that "the bald one" is winter / the cold again, as it makes the "hair" (grass etc.) of the landscape vanish. Do the Finns happen to have a series of five holidays heralding its onset, like the five(!) Ice Saints (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Saints) announce the end of night frosts to us Germans (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisheilige)?

J12 A tiny flea goes to the forest, even a thousand horses cannot bring it back home. What is it?
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I wonder whether there'd be any fleas "riding" Surma when it finally appears in the comic, and whether they'd happen to still qualify as "tiny" ...

I'm thinking along the lines of a dandelion "parachute" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taraxacum#Seed_dispersal)-alike growing into a tree, but botany - even my local one - isn't my strong suit ...

J13: The longer I am, the better. The thicker I am, the better. Mostly I’m used at night. Who am I?
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A candle. (Back when Finns could not have industrially produced candles so big that that you'd need a forklift to carry your light around. ;D )
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 30, 2020, 07:00:51 AM
JoB, correct on J13! A somewhat Róisín type riddle that one  ;)

On J10 you were much closer the first time.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: phocena on May 30, 2020, 12:56:45 PM
This is a stretch, but for J12:
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An ember from a fire? Because it's small, but once it sets the forest on fire you can't control it
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on May 30, 2020, 02:19:23 PM
phocena, correct! You are on a roll!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on June 09, 2020, 09:19:28 AM
Man I sure am terrible at riddle-solving…

Not a new answer or a new riddle but: I showed J6 to my mom and apparently the riddle exists in traditional Germany too with a slightly different wording:
"the bird, featherless, sits on the tree, leafless. Comes the woman, mouthless, eats the bird, featherless."
Solution is of course the same. I thought that was a fun coincidence :)

#7: My thunder comes before the lightning; My lightning comes before the clouds; My rain dries all the land it touches. What am I?

And to actually answer one (from way way back, but as far as I saw nobody answered correctly yet):
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Is it fire?

because thunder= lighting the fire with flintstones or something which makes a loud sound when pounding them together, lightning= firelight itself, clouds= smoke, rain=sparks
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on June 09, 2020, 09:40:10 AM
And to actually answer one (from way way back, but as far as I saw nobody answered correctly yet):
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Is it fire?

because thunder= lighting the fire with flintstones or something which makes a loud sound when pounding them together, lightning= firelight itself, clouds= smoke, rain=sparks

No. But it's closer than other answers.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on June 09, 2020, 10:43:34 AM
Thanks for the revival, Mirasol! I’m sure very many of the riddles are quite widely known, and not solel by coincidence either :)

A couple of mine remain unanswered too:

J9: First we skin the hide, then we shear the wool. What are we doing?

J10: Five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on June 09, 2020, 11:53:16 AM
No. But it's closer than other answers.

Oh my god... I showed the riddle to my mom now too and she didn't even think about it for two seconds and said
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volcano


She told me she didn't know the riddle before. I feel very stupid right now... At least with Jitters riddles she's just as lost as me.

Edit:
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She told me to add that her second (also immediate) guess was atom bomb
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on June 09, 2020, 02:40:56 PM
Oh my god... I showed the riddle to my mom now too and she didn't even think about it for two seconds and said
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volcano


She told me she didn't know the riddle before. I feel very stupid right now... At least with Jitters riddles she's just as lost as me.

Edit:
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She told me to add that her second (also immediate) guess was atom bomb

Don't worry, you're not the only one who couldn't get it for a long time... In fact, I've chosen this riddle specifically because I couldn't solve it myself.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on June 10, 2020, 12:20:28 AM
J10: five brothers go first, the bald one chasing them.
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A foot - five toes and a heel?

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on June 10, 2020, 02:43:49 PM
Wave, yes! JoB suggested a hand but then didn’t go with that when I told him it’s close :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 10, 2020, 04:13:27 PM
Again I'll put this here, the only one still unsolved in my first batch:

G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”

 From “Wizard and Glass” by Stephen King

And a new batch for your amusement!

G7: A very ancient one, from the Sumer Civilization

 “There is a house. One enters it blind and comes out seeing. What is it?”

G8: From Jane Austen's "Emma"

“My first displays the wealth and pomp of kings,
Lords of the earth! their luxury and ease.
Another view of man, my second brings,
Behold him there, the monarch of the seas!”

G9: A long one, allegedly written by Albert Einstein (but there's no hard evidence of it)

There are five houses in a row. Each house is painted a different color and has a person of a different nationality living in it. Each person drinks a different beverage, smokes a different type of cigar, and owns a different animal as a pet. Using these 15 clues, which person owns the pet fish?

The Brit lives in the red house.
The Swede has a pet dog.
The Dane drinks tea.
The green house is directly to the left of the white house.
The person in the green house drinks coffee.
The person who smokes Pall Mall has a pet bird.
The person in the yellow house smokes Dunhill cigars.
The person in the center house drinks milk.
The Norwegian lives in the first house.
The person who smokes Blends lives next to the person with the pet cat.
The person with the pet horse lives next to the one who smokes Dunhill.
The person who smokes BlueMaster drinks beer.
The German smokes Prince.
The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
The person who smokes Blends has a neighbor who drinks water.

G10: It's said to be Theodore Roosevelt's preferred:

I talk, but I do not speak my mind
I hear words, but I do not listen to thoughts
When I wake, all see me
When I sleep, all hear me
Many heads are on my shoulders
Many hands are at my feet
The strongest steel cannot break my visage
But the softest whisper can destroy me
The quietest whimper can be heard.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on June 10, 2020, 05:33:02 PM
I can´t do Interpretation, but I can do logic (I hope). So for G9:

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yellow/blue/red/green/white
Norwegian/Dane/Brit/German/Swede
water/tea/milk/coffee/beer
Dunhill/Blends/Pall Mall/Prince/Blue Master
cat/horse/bird/fish/dog

Which means that the fish is owned by the German Living in the green house, who drinks coffee and smokes Prince


This thread is fun :D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on June 10, 2020, 05:47:36 PM
I love logic puzzles, but I will not peek at Mirasol's answer.  I want to work that one out over my lunch break.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 10, 2020, 07:26:00 PM
I can´t do Interpretation, but I can do logic (I hope). So for G9:

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yellow/blue/red/green/white
Norwegian/Dane/Brit/German/Swede
water/tea/milk/coffee/beer
Dunhill/Blends/Pall Mall/Prince/Blue Master
cat/horse/bird/fish/dog

Which means that the fish is owned by the German Living in the green house, who drinks coffee and smokes Prince


This thread is fun :D

So you can, Mirasol! Well done!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on June 10, 2020, 09:24:09 PM
G7: A very ancient one, from the Sumer Civilization

 “There is a house. One enters it blind and comes out seeing. What is it?”

Spoiler: show
The night?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 10, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Spoiler: show
The night?


Sorry, Mebediel. It's a nice try, but that sumerian guy set a different answer 4000 years ago...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on June 10, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
The womb?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on June 10, 2020, 10:17:17 PM
I love logic puzzles, but I will not peek at Mirasol's answer.  I want to work that one out over my lunch break.

Yay! Accomplished .
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 11, 2020, 03:55:45 AM
Sorry Róisín but that's not the answer. The good news is that you can try again!  ;)

Wave, well done! Wanna try the others? It's free!  :)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on June 11, 2020, 12:47:20 PM
G5:
“If you break me, I’ll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after. What am I?”
(FWIW, I looked that one up - yeah, sometimes my impatience gets the better of me - and found that I'm one of those who "still don't get it"
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and consider the description to be misleading beyond what one'd expect from even a hard riddle

so I shall step out of this one.)

G7: A very ancient one, from the Sumer Civilization
 “There is a house. One enters it blind and comes out seeing. What is it?”
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Considering the role of Sumerian cuneiform in the development of scripture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Development_of_writing.jpg) and that, a couple centuries later, literacy was indeed expanded beyond scribes in Sumer, my first guess would be "a school".

Of course, with a more literal interpretation, it could also be a doctor's office ...
(Did the Sumerians have maternity rooms? If so, the one who enters it blind would be the unborn, of course!)

... or, assuming that the average Sumerian did not have the time and/or money to go there very often, a hairdresser salon ... ;D


G8: From Jane Austen's "Emma"
“My first displays the wealth and pomp of kings,
Lords of the earth! their luxury and ease.
Another view of man, my second brings,
Behold him there, the monarch of the seas!”
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(First/second meaning, i.e., we're looking for two homonyms? First/second part, i.e., the final solution is a compound word? I do not feel like I got any proper grip on this one yet ...)

... assuming that there was a "Justice" in maritime history a tad more impressive than this tug boat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Empire_ships_(L)#Empire_Lola), could the solution be "palace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace) of justice"?


G10: It's said to be Theodore Roosevelt's preferred:
I talk, but I do not speak my mind
I hear words, but I do not listen to thoughts
When I wake, all see me
When I sleep, all hear me
Many heads are on my shoulders
Many hands are at my feet
The strongest steel cannot break my visage
But the softest whisper can destroy me
The quietest whimper can be heard.
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It would be a rather surprising topic for Teddy as far as I can tell as a non-American, but ... an insurrection?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 11, 2020, 02:21:59 PM
JoB, as for G5, I understand your feelings. But please remember there are several riddles in this thread that rely on a metaphorical approach, sometimes a very stretchy one.
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If you "break" a heart, It will not stop working
If you can touch a heart, it's not working, so that person is dead and the heart work is done (unless you are a surgeon...)
If you "lose" a heart, you must find that person with a ring (a serious proposal? I admit that's a stretch. There are several other possibilities to recover the relationship beyond "will you marry me" :D ) soon after (because that person can give his/her heart to somebody else)

So we have two very metaphorical lines with a very concrete one in the middle, and IMHO that's what makes this riddle one that nobody solved it yet. Blame Mr. King, not me, I'm just the messenger.

As for G7 your answer is correct! Congratulations! And the others are fine too, particularly the last one. :D

As for G8,
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I'd say that it's reasonable to think in two parts that make a word.

As for G10 all I can say is that's a good answer, but not the right one according to the source.




Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on June 11, 2020, 07:29:28 PM
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If you "break" a heart, It will not stop working
If you can touch a heart, it's not working, so that person is dead and the heart work is done (unless you are a surgeon...)
If you "lose" a heart, you must find that person with a ring (a serious proposal? I admit that's a stretch. There are several other possibilities to recover the relationship beyond "will you marry me" :D ) soon after (because that person can give his/her heart to somebody else)

So we have two very metaphorical lines with a very concrete one in the middle, and IMHO that's what makes this riddle one that nobody solved it yet. Blame Mr. King, not me, I'm just the messenger.

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I'm willing to OK the first line, "if you break me, I’ll not stop working", even though there has been the occasional case where even the treating doctor judged a death by heart failure to be the consequence of the patient having had his heart broken. Usually, that will not happen, so.

A heart that you can touch is likely not to work anymore, but that's not what the wording "my work is done" implies. It's a phrase that I would use when the guy dies of old age, or maybe when the heart reached its own maximum lifetime (cardiac defect), not for the cases where someone rips the chest open and physically interferes with the heart's ability to continue the work it's been set to do.

But it's the third line that's the worst, because you need to change only a single word to make it correct: When you lost your heart to someone, you'll WANT to "find your (sweet)heart with a ring (= married to you) soon after" - but "must"? I'ld say that those who've fallen head over heels in love are particularly likely to continue the relationship but skip on usual rites, material symbols like a ring, even the very act of a formal marriage, if circumstances make obtaining those a problem. And if it's only yourself who has fallen in love but the other doesn't reciprocate, as you suggest, the other's free will even more clearly trumps your "must".

To die when someone rips your heart out of your chest, that is a "must". >:(

... and, needless to say, these flawed wordings irk me partly because Mr. King is one of the people I'd expect to wield language with more exactitude ...


As for G7 your answer is correct! Congratulations! And the others are fine too, particularly the last one. :D
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... just to be sure, my first answer (school) was the correct one?

(Because, if only Sumer had those, I'd consider the maternity wards a "better" solution. Also prisons, if they had the habit of blindfolding people they send off to them ...)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 11, 2020, 08:43:59 PM
JoB, as usual I agree with you. Mr. King could have done better :)

(And yes, your first answer on G7 is the correct one. The others and pretty good, tough)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on June 12, 2020, 02:05:57 PM
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I'm willing to OK the first line, "if you break me, I’ll not stop working", even though there has been the occasional case where even the treating doctor judged a death by heart failure to be the consequence of the patient having had his heart broken. Usually, that will not happen, so.

A heart that you can touch is likely not to work anymore, but that's not what the wording "my work is done" implies. It's a phrase that I would use when the guy dies of old age, or maybe when the heart reached its own maximum lifetime (cardiac defect), not for the cases where someone rips the chest open and physically interferes with the heart's ability to continue the work it's been set to do.

But it's the third line that's the worst, because you need to change only a single word to make it correct: When you lost your heart to someone, you'll WANT to "find your (sweet)heart with a ring (= married to you) soon after" - but "must"? I'ld say that those who've fallen head over heels in love are particularly likely to continue the relationship but skip on usual rites, material symbols like a ring, even the very act of a formal marriage, if circumstances make obtaining those a problem. And if it's only yourself who has fallen in love but the other doesn't reciprocate, as you suggest, the other's free will even more clearly trumps your "must".

To die when someone rips your heart out of your chest, that is a "must". >:(

... and, needless to say, these flawed wordings irk me partly because Mr. King is one of the people I'd expect to wield language with more exactitude ...
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Given that the book was published in the US in 1997, I expect that the attitudes back then were different than those of the Europe of today.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on June 26, 2020, 07:25:15 PM
It's been a couple of weeks, I guess riddle-mania is wearing off, but a post by Jitter reminded me of this one so here it is.

A man and his son are in a terrible accident. They are both rushed to the nearest emergency room, and whisked into adjacent operating rooms. The surgeon comes into the boy's room, looks at him and says, "I can't operate on this child, he is my son." How is this possible?

I quite enjoyed all the riddles even if I am entirely hopeless at figuring them out!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 26, 2020, 07:57:49 PM
It's been a couple of weeks, I guess riddle-mania is wearing off, but a post by Jitter reminded me of this one so here it is.

A man and his son are in a terrible accident. They are both rushed to the nearest emergency room, and whisked into adjacent operating rooms. The surgeon comes into the boy's room, looks at him and says, "I can't operate on this child, he is my son." How is this possible?

I quite enjoyed all the riddles even if I am entirely hopeless at figuring them out!
I guess riddle-mania is something that comes and goes like the wind. :)
I'm also terrible at solving them, but I'll try yours:

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The surgeon and his son accidents happened at different times.

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: muidole on June 26, 2020, 08:18:11 PM
It's been a couple of weeks, I guess riddle-mania is wearing off, but a post by Jitter reminded me of this one so here it is.

A man and his son are in a terrible accident. They are both rushed to the nearest emergency room, and whisked into adjacent operating rooms. The surgeon comes into the boy's room, looks at him and says, "I can't operate on this child, he is my son." How is this possible?

I quite enjoyed all the riddles even if I am entirely hopeless at figuring them out!

(I hope it's ok to guess before the previous guess was confirmed/denied...)

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The surgeon is the son's mother?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on June 26, 2020, 08:26:45 PM
(I hope it's ok to guess before the previous guess was confirmed/denied...)

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The surgeon is the son's mother?

I did said that I'm terrible at solving them! My guess is that your guess is better than mine! ;)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on June 27, 2020, 03:14:06 AM
I'm with CeilingFan on this one.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on June 27, 2020, 05:12:16 AM
Me too, CeilingFan you are right.

I’m confident I can confirm because I know what Vulpes mentions as bringing this to his mind :) (Also I may have heard it before but not sure)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Yastreb on June 27, 2020, 08:03:40 AM
This is the only riddle in French that I know, and it's damn' clever.

Je suis le chef de vingt-cinq soldats, et sans moi Paris serait pris. Qui suis-je?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on June 27, 2020, 02:58:43 PM
CeilingFan, you are indeed correct! I knew it wouldn't remain unsolved for long.

It's an interesting reminder of our strong unconscious biases. Not a whole lot we can do about them, but it does help to be reminded they're there.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Vulpes on June 27, 2020, 03:03:52 PM
This is the only riddle in French that I know, and it's damn' clever.

Je suis le chef de vingt-cinq soldats, et sans moi Paris serait pris. Qui suis-je?


Je peux le comprendre, mais je n'ai aucune idée de la réponse.

(Edit for dumb typo introduced while trying to remember how French works)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on June 27, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
Je comprends aussi, but I tried to solve it with my mom nearby, who of course solved it immediately again... I don´t think it counts if I write her answers all the time.  :'D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on June 28, 2020, 04:56:04 AM
Je comprends aussi, but I tried to solve it with my mom nearby, who of course solved it immediately again... I don´t think it counts if I write her answers all the time.  :'D
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Est-ce qu'on parle de la première lettre de l'alphabet (qui n'a que vingt-six lettres pour les Français, car les lettres accentées ne comptent pas), 'A'?
J'aimerai bien savoir ce que les "soldats" pensent du fait que leur "chef" est un bœuf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph) ...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on June 28, 2020, 05:33:28 AM
Yastreb, I reckon the letter ‘A’ is the most likely answer.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Yastreb on June 28, 2020, 06:47:34 AM
JoB et Róisín, la lettre A est la propre reponse.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Róisín on June 28, 2020, 08:18:14 AM
Merci bien!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on July 17, 2020, 09:19:16 PM
The French riddle has already been solved, but I actually understood the whole conversation, which means that Duolingo + my summer French class are working!

And to warrant posting in this thread, have a late medieval riddle (lifted from a dissertation on riddles by a scholar named Jessica Jane Lockhart):

Latin:
Ligneus est lectus nulla tamen arbore sectus;
Solvere qui poterit solvat et eius erit.

English translation (slightly modified by me):
A wooden/tough thing is gathered/read, but cut off no tree;
Crack it who can, and his it will be.

There are two solutions to this one!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 23, 2020, 04:00:07 PM
Here are a couple more silly ones (plus repeat of the unanswered one)

J9: First we skin the hide, then we shear the wool. What are we doing?

J14: The more you take out if me the bigger I become. Who am I?

J15: Imagine you are at a store at closing time. Suddenly the lights go out - you have accidentally been locked in! All doors and windows are locked and there’s also a locked grille over them. You have no phone. How do you get out?

J16: What was the largest island before Greenland was discovered?

J17: This ancient invention allows you to see through walls! What is it?

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on July 23, 2020, 04:38:58 PM
Yay, new riddles!

While I´m clueless about Mebediel´s midieval riddle and most of Jitter´s, let me try anyway:

latin riddle: (though I highly doubt this is the answer)
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a nut

J17:
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a window


This time actually "solved" by me. :'D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on July 23, 2020, 04:56:58 PM
J14:
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a hole.

J16:
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Greenland.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: muidole on July 23, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
Here are some silly answers that I don’t expect to be correct, but hey, why not  :P

J9
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What are you doing? Why, you’re skinning the hide and shearing the wool! ;)


J15
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Since you’re there at closing time, you probably work at the store. Therefore, you can just unlock the doors yourself since you have the key!  ::)

Or if you aren’t a worker, you can just wait for morning to come and for the shop to open again :P

Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 23, 2020, 05:17:37 PM
J14, J16 and J17 are correct. 

CeilingFan, no, J9 isn’t quite that literal. And you don’t have a key.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on July 23, 2020, 08:38:04 PM
Have we already guessed this one?
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A back wax!  You have to take your shirt off first.
(http://i.imgur.com/q3NfqD0.png)


I think Mirasol got the medieval one.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Yastreb on July 23, 2020, 09:57:06 PM
This riddle (?) come to you courtesy of the talking-type wireless Goon Show.

Grytpype: Lad, we have perfected a method of getting a man off the ground under his own power. He needs no other means of propulsion.
Seagoon: ... Has it been successful?
Grytpype: Successful? Do you hear that, Count? Why, even last night, the dear Count here, went up on the heath, and unaided, elevated himself into space to the height of twenty feet.
Seagoon: Gad! What’s this invention called?
Grytpype:
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A ladder.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on July 24, 2020, 05:54:52 AM
J15: Imagine you are at a store at closing time. Suddenly the lights go out - you have accidentally been locked in! All doors and windows are locked and there’s also a locked grille over them. You have no phone. How do you get out?
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Would that mean "you have no phone of yours" (use the store's, then), or none at all (then check emergency exits, or whether you can set off some alarm)?
Maybe it's the kind of store you wouldn't even want to end your unsupervised time in?
Also, there's the possibility of "I wait for the owner to let me out the next morning, and wag my tail with joy as he arrives" ... ;)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 24, 2020, 01:37:39 PM
Wave, as far as I recall J9 remains unanswered (also after your admirable try).

JoB, you don't have any phone at all and emergency exits don't open either (they are locked for the night because there's nobody in!). Try again :)

Yastreb, you are supposed to let others try first :) (I thought it was legs, climbing up the hill would do the elevation)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on July 25, 2020, 05:24:42 AM
J15: Imagine you are at a store at closing time. Suddenly the lights go out - you have accidentally been locked in! All doors and windows are locked and there’s also a locked grille over them. You have no phone. How do you get out?
JoB, you don't have any phone at all and emergency exits don't open either (they are locked for the night because there's nobody in!). Try again :)
... let me work through a couple edge conditions, just in case:

Edit to add:

(Maybe I could ask JoB - that's also locked inside with the rest of us - if he also carries matches in his utility belt :D )
(Nope. Never smoked, never found a lighter that would promise to still work after months or years on a keychain or somesuch, never had any other need for fire that would've prompted me to carry a stash of matches. By now, I have a standard lighter in the car for my weekly visit to the graveyard, but that's it.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thegreyarea on July 25, 2020, 06:05:42 AM
J15: Imagine you are at a store at closing time. Suddenly the lights go out - you have accidentally been locked in! All doors and windows are locked and there’s also a locked grille over them. You have no phone. How do you get out?
All things considered I'd say, as others before, that...
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I'd get out when the store opens again.


But since that's not the right answer, and if you really need to get out fast and has no way to force your exit, then...
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Start a fire? It's a desperate measure, but probably the alarm would work and I would be rescued... hopefully before dying! :)

(it would be even better if I can trigger the fire alarm without a real fire. Maybe I could ask JoB - that's also locked inside with the rest of us - if he also carries matches in his utility belt :D )
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 25, 2020, 06:54:59 AM
Sorry guys you are still in the shop
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: thorny on July 25, 2020, 08:37:17 AM
J15: Imagine you are at a store at closing time. Suddenly the lights go out - you have accidentally been locked in! All doors and windows are locked and there’s also a locked grille over them. You have no phone. How do you get out?

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Isn't there a fire alarm that can be pulled without setting a fire? (Might have to pay a fine to the fire department, though.)

How about an emergency fire exit that's only capable of locking from the outside?

Is there an accessible light switch? Blink the lights on and off SOS.

I think somebody already said this, but isn't there a store phone?

Is there anybody going past the windows, even occasionally? Stand in a window and beat on the glass whenever somebody goes by. Or blink SOS with a flashlight if we've got one or if the store does. Or make a fuss in front of a security camera.

Did I leave a car parked out in the lot, and am I close enough to it for my keys to set off its alarms? (last in the list because I've never seen anybody do anything about somebody else's car alarm going off besides swear at it)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: JoB on July 25, 2020, 02:08:10 PM
Sorry guys you are still in the shop
... or am I? (As a mathematician, I can define my side of the walls to be "the outside", as they're topologically equivalent. >:D )

(As a more serious sidenote, considering that real shops will sometimes keep a professional burglar from getting back out until the police arrives and helps him out, I seriously doubt that there is any realistic universal get-out-of-a-locked-shoppe method.)

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.. I just notice that the riddle says that I'm at the shop, not in the shop. Have I been "locked in"to something other than the shop, say, the gate at the parking lot's vehicle exit is now closed? In that case, I just walk out and fetch my car the next morning ...
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: muidole on July 25, 2020, 02:52:11 PM
J15:
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Maybe if you're imagining that you are locked at the store, you can just stop imagining that you are locked inside, thus "getting out"? So basically imagine that you are outside of the store rather than locked inside? Or stop imagining at all? But this would be a very literal take on the riddle so I doubt it  :'D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: scottishnottish on July 25, 2020, 05:50:03 PM
J15:
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Maybe if you're imagining that you are locked at the store, you can just stop imagining that you are locked inside, thus "getting out"? So basically imagine that you are outside of the store rather than locked inside? Or stop imagining at all? But this would be a very literal take on the riddle so I doubt it  :'D


I was about to say this same thing.
 
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just stop imagining?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 25, 2020, 08:09:48 PM
CeilingFan and Scottish, congratulations! You have saved the Minnions from the Shop of Doom!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: scottishnottish on July 25, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
CeilingFan and Scottish, congratulations! You have saved the Minnions from the Shop of Doom!

Hah I only knew because I heard a very similar riddle growing up

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something along the lines of "imagine you're in a room with no windows, no doors, and the walls go up forever. How do you get out?"
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Yastreb on July 25, 2020, 11:31:21 PM
I was thinking of using the age-old method.

I rub my hands until they're sore.
I use the saw to cut a table in half.
Two halves make a whole, so I crawl through the hole.

(Of course it's better verbally, but hey...)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: scottishnottish on July 25, 2020, 11:35:25 PM
I was thinking of using the age-old method.

I rub my hands until they're sore.
I use the saw to cut a table in half.
Two halves make a whole, so I crawl through the hole.

(Of course it's better verbally, but hey...)


Ahh, I'm from the U.S. so it took me a minute to figure out sore/saw must be an accent thing, here they're pronounced very differently! Our version includes a mirror in the room, and the answer is "I look in the mirror to see what I saw"
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on July 27, 2020, 06:05:00 AM
I and a few other people too I think really enjoyed that one logical riddle Grey posted a while ago. Since these kinds of riddles are a little underrepresented here so far, I googled a few (translated from German by me):

M1: Shopping

On the counter of a mall, five friends are waiting in line (Dana, Ingo, Jessica, Sören, Valerie). They are all of different ages (26, 27, 30, 33 and 35 years) and want to buy different kinds of shirts (button-up shirt, turtleneck, pullover, sweatshirt, regular shirt) for themselves. They all have different colors (blue, yellow, green, red, black) and different sizes (XS, S, M, L, XL).

Who is standing in what order, how old are they, what are they buying and in what color and size? ("first" person is the one standing the closest to the counter. Nobody else is waiting in line.)

- Dana wants to buy a shirt in the size XL, and stands closer to the counter as the person who wants to buy a black shirt.
- Jessica stands directly in front of the person who wants to buy a turtleneck.
- The second person in line wants to buy a yellow shirt.
- The regular shirt isn´t red.
- Sören wants to buy a sweatshirt. The person right in front of him is older than the person right behind him.
- Ingo wants to buy a shirt in the size L.
- The last person in line is 30 years old.
- The oldest person wants to buy the shirt in the smallest size.
- The person directly behind Valerie wants to buy a red shirt, bigger than size S.
- The youngest person wants to buy a yellow shirt.
- Jessica wants to buy a button-up shirt.
- The third person in line wants to buy a shirt in the size M.
- The turtleneck is either red, yellow or green.

M2: trapped at the stake (this one might be quite popular, I think I heard it before...)

Three people got kidnapped and handcuffed to three stakes while blindfolded. The stakes are standing in a line. Now, the blindfolds are removed. Their kidnapper tells them:

the first one of you sees no other stake, the one in the middle only the stake of the first one, and the last one only the stakes of those in front of him. I have five stakes in total, two of them are red, and three of them are black. Those of you who can correctly guess their stake´s color will be set free. If your guess is wrong, you will be killed.

After five minutes, the person right in the front shouts: "My stake is black!" He is released. How did he know his stake´s color?

M3: The princess in the lake (this one´s a little mathmatical)

One day, a princess decided to go for a swim in the circular lake far away from her father´s castle. As soon as she was in the water, a witch appeared to try and kidnap the girl.
The princess quickly swam into the middle of the lake to think of an escape-plan. She noticed four things:

- The witch can´t go into the water (but I can´t stay in the water, or else I will drown)
- The witch can walk four times as fast as I can swim
- The witch always tries to stay as close to me as possible
- On land I am faster than the witch

How did the princess escape?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: RanVor on July 27, 2020, 07:27:41 AM
M2: trapped at the stake (this one might be quite popular, I think I heard it before...)

Three people got kidnapped and handcuffed to three stakes while blindfolded. The stakes are standing in a line. Now, the blindfolds are removed. Their kidnapper tells them:

the first one of you sees no other stake, the one in the middle only the stake of the first one, and the last one only the stakes of those in front of him. I have five stakes in total, two of them are red, and three of them are black. Those of you who can correctly guess their stake´s color will be set free. If your guess is wrong, you will be killed.

After five minutes, the person right in the front shouts: "My stake is black!" He is released. How did he know his stake´s color?

Just to get it out of the way, am I correct to assume that "betting on the 60% chance of guessing correctly" is not a valid answer?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on July 27, 2020, 08:27:35 AM
Just to get it out of the way, am I correct to assume that "betting on the 60% chance of guessing correctly" is not a valid answer?

You are correct, it is not a valid answer. :D
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Jitter on July 27, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
M2
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The last person in the row didn’t yell black, which they would have if both of the stakes in front of them were red. So persons 1 and 2 know that the two stakes are either both black or red and black, i.e. there is at least one black among the two first ones. If the second person had thus seen the first stake is red, the second one would have known their stake is black.

So the first person knows that either both his and the person’s behind them stakes are black, or that his is black and the second one is red. In any case theirs is black.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mirasol on July 27, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
Yes Jitter, you got it! :))
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Mebediel on July 27, 2020, 07:34:17 PM
Aha whoops this thread was very active in the days I was away
latin riddle: (though I highly doubt this is the answer)
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a nut

Yes! And there is one more possible answer!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: afreude on August 29, 2020, 07:44:44 PM
I just joined the forum and immediately was intrigued by this riddles thread!


Is the other answer to the Latin riddle
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a riddle?




Here's one:

There exists an infinite hotel with rooms numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 ... and so on forever.  All of the rooms are occupied.  An infinite tour bus arrives with another [countably] infinitely many guests.  Can the hotel accommodate them?  How?


(I did read through the whole thread to see the riddles, and I see that there is at least one member who probably already knows the answer to this.)
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: wavewright62 on August 29, 2020, 08:54:27 PM
I just joined the forum and immediately was intrigued by this riddles thread!


Is the other answer to the Latin riddle
Spoiler: show
a riddle?




Here's one:

There exists an infinite hotel with rooms numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 ... and so on forever.  All of the rooms are occupied.  An infinite tour bus arrives with another [countably] infinitely many guests.  Can the hotel accommodate them?  How?


(I did read through the whole thread to see the riddles, and I see that there is at least one member who probably already knows the answer to this.)

I don't know, but our quarantine facilities would love to know the answer!
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Groupoid on July 15, 2021, 02:39:31 AM
Came across this thread after/during the Great Forum Restructuring. The riddle about the infinite hotel could be an exercise of a maths lecture (some introductory course or a set theory lecture). Thread necromancy:
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There are a lot of different approaches, here's one of them.

First make an infinite amount of room in the hotel, by moving every person to the room with double their current room number. (n -> 2n. For example the occupant of room 5342 goes to room 10684, or the occupant of room 111 goes to room 222).
This leaves all the (infinitely many) odd numbered rooms empty.

Then we enumerate the people in the buses. I don't want to write down the enumeration procedure yet, 'cause its a bit technical. Just assume, every person trom the buses has got their unique natural number. We may also require, that for every number there is a passenger with this number, if we like.
Now we assign the first passenger to the first odd-numbered room of the hotel, the second passenger to the second odd-numbered room etc. (passenger n goes to room 2n-1)
Then we're done and have filled the whole hotel again.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: SkyWhalePod on July 16, 2021, 09:07:52 PM
I don't have anything smart to say, I just wanted to give a verbal thumbs-up at Groupoid's necromancy. Love the infinite hotel problem and its solutions.
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: catbirds on July 16, 2021, 11:13:12 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Groupoid!

I'm glad this sort of thing doesn't exist! If I were unfortunate enough to be in room, say, a million, I'd probably be a pile of dust before I got to room two million…
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: afreude on July 18, 2021, 06:07:08 PM
Groupoid, you are exactly right.  I think it's straight out of the first week or so of set theory (or possibly just intro to proofs, it's been a long time) showing why the sets of natural numbers, integers, rational numbers, etc. are all the same size.

I always thought it was a really clever and accessible way to help explain countably infinite sets.  It's pretty easy to take that idea and say: okay, everyone in the hotel is a positive integer, and everyone on the tour bus is a negative integer, and just line them up the same way so now we see that natural numbers and integers are sets of the same size.



What prompted your username?  I'm assuming topology or category theory/logic type interests?
Title: Re: Riddle time!
Post by: Groupoid on July 24, 2021, 01:18:04 AM
Yeah, though it's only little more than name dropping, I haven't studied groupoids much. I know them as fundamental groupoids of a space and that ∞-groupoids form a model of some type theories and haven't yet encountered them in a lecture.

Sorry, only saw your question today and am going on holidays (with little internet) right now.