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Title: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: itstricky on July 01, 2019, 07:22:44 PM
A lot of aspects of the SSSS story has inspired a sense of environmental activism within me.
Solarpunks are interested in creating a world that is “green” and sustainable, but do not believe that a dystopia is a necessity for this world. The SSSS universe it a new way of life after a global catastrophe that didn’t turn into a hopeless dystopia, which is one of the biggest appeals of the comic for me.

On top of that, issues related to sustainable food systems and sustainable urban planning were heavily addressed during the first decades. These are problems in our world, and even our local communities, today!

I was wondering if anyone else became interested in environmental punk activities as a result of SSSS? And what are some things you do that make you feel closer and kinder to your lived-in environment? I want some more inspiration for myself to continue down this punk-y path to be honest.

Here are some for me:
- more interested in learning about growing food for myself and making use of “lawns” (grass is a monoculture, and provides no nutrition for us! We can use that  space for native plants and make everyone’s lawn as beautiful as the sights we love in SSSS)
- learning how to repair things and rely less on buying new items. In SSSS I imagine its much easier for everyone to reuse items for as long as possible since it will be much more difficult to obtain new resources.
- on the same thread, learning some of those “basic” skills that people my age didn’t grow up doing, like knitting, sewing, cooking from scratch, ect.

(P.S. I liveeee for discussions about the environment and sustainability so feel free to hmu any time ever to talk about it fr)
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 01, 2019, 08:31:21 PM
Ah, one of my lot, I see. Be doubly welcome! I also am passionate about this stuff, indeed, now I am retired from my job it is what I do for a living! I and others around me teach this stuff, and the local young folk are right into it. I had not heard the term 'solarpunk', but it fits. If you are curious to see what we are doing, look up 'Mount Pleasant Natural Resource Centre, Recreate Project, and Mount Pleasant Community Garden'. At Recreate we recycle stuff into useful things which we sell to fund the town's community garden and classes in all of those useful old skills that we can find people to teach. We love it.

I teach bushcraft, wild food foraging, cooking and food gardening, making your own cosmetics, perfumes and first aid products, and brewing and other related skills. I helped start the town's farmers market, which is thriving, and we have a street library and a produce share going, and a new generation coming up who care about the land, and understand that healthy land, thriving plant and animal life and a good community who care for each other will give us all a better chance. I also do a lot of speaking and teaching at garden clubs, environmental events and such, because I don't want to let the skills we oldies have be forgotten. Though I expect environmental and political disaster more than something like the events of the Minnaverse.

Also, if where you live has some equivalent of our CWA (Country Women's Association), those ladies are a treasure trove of skills and experience, and will happily pass it on.

There is so much we can do for the world if we make an effort. And I totally agree about the grass lawn monoculture. I grow a lot of pretty groundcover plants that provide something useful, like habitat and food  for lizards and small birds, food for my bees and other useful insects, and in the case of native food plants like muntries, all of the above plus erosion control, beauty and delicious fruit. I should put up on the gardening thread instructions on how to convert a lawn into productive space.

Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Oripoke on July 02, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
How did you know?! Sustainability and environmentally compatible living is like, my whole *thing*. (I actually run a solarpunk blog (https://solar-punk-future.tumblr.com/), that admittedly is mostly memeing about climate change with occasional cool green tech sprinkled in, because dammit, i'm mad.)

SSSS has definitely got me thinking about adaptation to a more primitive lifestyle in the wake of catastrophe, which is something that we're likely to see play out in various places the real world due to resource scarcity, natural disasters and the like. What I find particularly interesting is how the world governments in the SSSS-verse have made sure to maintain transportation channels, like the Dalahasten train and the repurposed transport ships. Despite the threat of attack from the Rash-infected, there are shipping channels to provide necessary resources, materials, and even luxury goods can be brought to people across the known world. These types of large, interlocking systems require unity and cooperation on a national scale, which is something i think the Nordic region is somewhat predisposed towards already, and is somewhat easier when everybody has a common threat they are working together to fight.

(Now, if only we could have more national cooperation in the face of real threats, like climate change!)

I also think a lot about energy in the SSSS world, and how the few cities that do have electric power get it from geothermal energy (in Iceland) and hydropower elsewhere (Mora, Aurland, Eno). I wouldn't be surprised if they still drill for petroleum (Norway in particular being very rich in oil), although maintaining an offshore oil rig in the face of attacking sea beasts is no easy task. There's something to be said for renewable resources which don't rely on a continuous supply of fuel. Since Year 0 appears to be set in present-day, relative to the date of the comic's publishing, it's likely that there are still some wind power farms up there too. Since these tend to be far-removed from places where people live though, they would be rather difficult to maintain after the onset of the Rash, and hard to replace if the parts are manufactured in other nations.

Today, there's a lot of promising research into "Micro-grids", sections of the electricity system that can be isolated from the main grid and produce their own power supply through use of distributed generation and energy storage. These can be invaluable in the event of a blackout or other natural disaster, resulting in better resiliency and rapid adaptation. Moreover, these can be owned by the communities themselves, creating independence from the dominant framework of large corporations. Whether there's a hurricane or a Rash-mutant-apocalypse, resiliency and smart planning can save lives and protect us from future disaster.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 02, 2019, 07:40:37 PM
All very true. I will check out your blog. I work very hard at preparedness, especially in regard to environmental problems, and encourage people to grow permacultures, so that whatever insane thing happens with the weather or the distribution networks there will be some food growing. A project which may interest you is the Food Forest at Gawler, not far from where I live. The Brookmans, who run it, have done lots of open days, and run courses on useful farming skills. If you want to see the farm, the ABC program ‘Gardening Australia’ has a program on farming which has a segment on the Food Forest, which was broadcast on June 2 and is available on the ‘Gardening Australia’ website. Gawler is in a hot dry area, but the basic principles are adaptable to any climate.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: itstricky on July 03, 2019, 03:27:49 AM
Wooah definitely going to check around to see if there is something similar to a CWA where I'm at, it certainly seems possible. I'm still a young 'un who has yet to get a real job, but I'm going to school for sustainable planning and climate change mitigation (among other things haha) and I've been looking to get more heavily involved with the groups on campus that are committed to these issues. Most of the time they require you to leave campus though, which isnt totally possible because of our transportation systems and all. I want to get together with people and talk about issues /on/ campus, and i was thinking that a spectacular way to do that would be to discuss the skills that we young 'uns just haven't been taught. The most sustainable consumption is no consumption after all! (something that our sustainability office honestly doesnt seem to really... talk about at all. Perhaps because it is so... systemically incompatible with the university lifestyle)

I've been getting pretty fired up about monocultures in the US as of late, currently visiting my parents and my dad is absolutely obsessed with the american-ideal of a well kept lawn and it's been a real struggle for me. I was just reading a bit about food forests recently but I didnt get to deep into the article. It seems like a real dream.

I followed your blog, Oripoke! I have never heard about microgrids but ill have to look more into it! I'm glad other people been reading maybe-too-deep into the systems that power the SSSS world ahaha its just so interesting to see what could "work" and to sort of have thought experiments inspired by it.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Krillian on July 04, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
In my case I've been a solarpunk even before I knew what that is, and certainly before reading SSSS. I haven't made much moves towards a more sustainable life above the basics, but I do have a lot of interest on developing sustainable skills.
Something that have hardened the solarpunk inside me would certainly be The Venus Project (https://www.thevenusproject.com), which tackles not only enviroment, but also other sociological issues that we currently have. I might not agree with the implemetation of the ideas Jacques Fresco had thought, but its all very interesting stuff and certainly worthy of debate.


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Today, there's a lot of promising research into "Micro-grids", sections of the electricity system that can be isolated from the main grid and produce their own power supply through use of distributed generation and energy storage. These can be invaluable in the event of a blackout or other natural disaster, resulting in better resiliency and rapid adaptation. Moreover, these can be owned by the communities themselves, creating independence from the dominant framework of large corporations. Whether there's a hurricane or a Rash-mutant-apocalypse, resiliency and smart planning can save lives and protect us from future disaster.

That's fairly interesting! I'm certainly going to try to create my own microgrids once I'm living away from small apartment complexes or my parents' homes. I don't know why this reminds me of a few small projects on p2p social-media platforms and blockchain technology; maybe simply due to the fact some of the people who use them are in a very off-grid lifestyle themselves.


A great example of a solarpunk artist couple is 100rabbits (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzdg4pZb-viC3EdA1zxRl4A), they're two offgrid artists who live in a boat, sailing around the world. They also made a bunch of small creative programs that are very neat.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 04, 2019, 11:03:05 PM
We have both solar and mains electricity (we live in an area very prone to power outages), and our solar feeds into the grid which helps to defray electricity bills a little. Also both mains and tank water, which is useful since both power and water prices here are horrific.

Krillian, those are very interesting links, thank you!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: refract3d on July 19, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Hmm, I don't know if it got me interested so much as reactivated and aligned with pre-existing interests... but it certainly didn't hurt!

My mother definitely has been interested in permaculture and gardening for as long as I can remember (she now has a lovely substantial front yard food garden) and used to talk about the ten acres of farmland she wanted (she says she's too old now) and my sister also gardens and dreams of raising goats. So maybe it was inevitable I'd go down a similar path  ;D

Personally, I've always been interested in nature and sustainability on some level, but I've been much more active in the last few years. I've gone to a couple primitive skills gatherings, taken a foraging class, tried to figure out how I could help with a neighbor's goats (unfortunately moved away from that area before I could accomplish much) and have been trying and more or less succeeding in finding places and groups that emphasize reuse and environmental responsibility. There's a tree-planting group I'd like to get more involved with and an artist coalition and a small food forest around here, to start. I'd love to find more and do more.
I like the idea of setting up some permaculture but I am currently in the city and frequently moving so I think that's something I'd rather help others with than establish myself for now.

I toyed with the idea of going to school for environmental planning, but ended up just doing environmental studies, and I don't really know what to do with that other than have a heightened awareness of all the problems with climate change and land management :-\ More stressful than useful, to be honest. Motivational once you get over the feelings of despair.

Solarpunk is pretty cool :)
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 20, 2019, 08:40:27 AM
If you are in a city there are always community gardens, food co-ops, produce swaps and shares and such like. And many of the community gardens have courses on urban self-sufficieny. It’s surprising what you can grow, even in windowboxes, pots on a balcony, or verge gardens, and there is always seed sprouting, by which I have managed to have a bit of live food, even when stuck in a sixth-floor flat. And in Adelaide at least the council is quite good at providing spaces for community gardens, including one in the South Parklands right near the CBD.

Some people in the inner suburbs, walking distance from the Adelaide CBD, make land available to people who want to garden but have no land to do so, if they themselves can’t or don’t want to manage a garden anymore. I know several folk on both sides of that equation, and it mostly seems to work well. If you can look for websites on the internet, check out some of the Gardening Australia episodes about verge gardens. These are basically road verges (‘nature strips’ they are called in Australia) which have been turned into community food gardens by people who live nearby. Wonderful idea, and involves the whole community.

Your local permaculture group may also have ideas and contacts. And really, you can build a garden anywhere. I have seen very productive rooftop food gardens in every Australian capital, and in inner London. One of my sons, being stuck in Adelaide city for a year because of his work, built a strawbale garden on a couple of old disused tennis courts. It was hugely productive!

As you may have gathered from other conversations around the Forum and the comments, I teach this stuff in real life, and am endlessly fascinated by how much can be done with very little in the way of resources!

Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Vulpes on July 20, 2019, 06:00:13 PM
Hm, I seem to have been solarpunk without knowing it existed, although where I live it's well nigh impossible to be sustainable. But I do my best, and look for opportunities to do better. I'll enjoy reading more about solarpunk, thanks for introducing me to what seems to be my natural intellectual home.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Vafhudr on September 29, 2019, 08:00:39 PM
Late to the party here, but I do have a word of advice concerning lawn gardening.

Check your city by-laws before you dig in. Some municipalities have by-laws in place that prevent you from diverging from what your neighbhour does - to preserve the "character" of the neighbourhood or they simply have in by-law that you need this amount of setback from the street, have a tree there, or how much space must be left open. It's not like this everywhere, but I have read several instances where people had to dismantle or fight to keep their front lawn gardens against municipal intervention. It could save you some headache and be something to work toward changing in your municipality.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on October 05, 2019, 09:54:08 PM
An amazing find. In Ironbank, which is in the Adelaide Hills about an hour from where I live. We have someone who has built an ‘Earthship’ house. Selfsufficient and completely amazing!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: itstricky on July 22, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
ah yes the local government, HOA, and other entities are often against that kind of stuff. I have seen some interesting ways to fight against those kind of rules in the past. I don't think ill ever find myself somewhere where those rules apply to me though. Right now I live in an apartment so I don't actually have any easy green space to work with but I happen to live just ten minutes walking from a forest trail, and bewilderingly restrictions on foraging have eased a little bit because of COVID. (I think local gov saw it as a Great Socially Distant Past Time) so recently I have been trying to learn more about foraging and edible plants!

My new biggest pet-peeve, aside from lawns, is how I cant eat dandelion outside of the Forest because of the pesticides used on most of the grass around here.

Soon I will be in charge of showing some international students the forest area and I'm looking forward to converting them to the nature life. Though i should really learn some more about the plants around me before then so that I have more to show them!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 23, 2020, 06:51:30 AM
You might find useful a European book which has good illustrations and quite accurate information: The Hamlyn Guide to Edible and Medicinal Plants of Britain and Northern Europe’ by Edmund Launert. This book also includes a number of plants, such as dandelion, which are also found in America and Australia. Which country are you in, if I may ask?
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on July 23, 2020, 10:00:46 AM
I am so happy this thread exists!!!!!! And that I know now what "solarpunk" means, it's a very good term. I'm so excited that other people know about permaculture, the negative effect of lawns and monocultures, foraging, renewable energies, etc.!! I guess all those things should be more common knowledge, but I have never heard anyone outside my family discuss them, so this is quite exciting  ;D

As for me, my mom is really into the agriculture side of climate change, and loves talking about/researching regenerative agriculture, holistic management, and, more recently, the importance of healthy soil. Have any of you heard the names Richard Perkins, Alan Savory, Seth Itzkan, or Christine Jones? Those are the names she's been mentioning most often and has told me a little bit about, and they are definitely worth looking up.
I am part of the environmental club at school and we have been trying to set up a composting program, as well as just raise awareness at school about the benefits of composting and what it is. I also made some art about climate change in the form of activist postcards, but I haven't done much with them (i can post them if anyone's interested). Overall, I think I'd like to go into the sustainability field as a career, but I haven't thought about it too much yet.

anyways, sorry, that was a long post, and I'm still just an amateur when it comes to sustainability. I haven't been learning or doing much environmentally recently because I've been focusing on art, but it's so amazing to see other people on this Forum who are passionate about it!!!!! Thank you all (for sharing all this knowledge)!
oh, also, Oripoke, I have also followed your blog, it's really cool!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 23, 2020, 12:28:12 PM
Alkia, I am interested in seeing your postcards! So nice to see that more of us are into this!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Jitter on July 23, 2020, 02:51:56 PM
I currently have a work project where I’m writing a memo for a client about what the EU is planning in terms of the environment and sustainability. I have to say it’s been great! The new European Commission is doing a lot. Now from the moment something is published by the Commission to the moment it happens in practice there is a lot of time, but at least it has been started. Not all people and companies are going to voluntarily do the right thing, we are going to need regulations that force the change. The EU is about to commit to climate neutrality, change the entire economy to circular, the new biodiversity strategy targets minimum of 30% of both land and sea area to become protected etc.

Now the solarpunks are obviously far far ahead, but it’s good to know others are following. And it’s not just the EU - the fact this sort of thing is politically plausible shows that general views are tipping on the side of sustainability. I very much hope we have time still.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: itstricky on July 23, 2020, 06:03:29 PM
I am in Michigan USA! That book does sound useful I'm going to have to check it out!

I think a Great getting-started-in-sustainbility resource is project Drawdown. They have a website that you can access for free and a book that is a bit more detailed and organized than the information on the website. If there is a potentially viable option for climate change mitigation, Drawdown almost certainly talks about it. (That's where I went to learn more about micro-grids after Oripoke mentioned them last year!) They have a whole section on agriculture, which is certainly important since food resources are going to be such a big part of our climate journey in the coming years.

Drawdown can also be a great resource for optimism, Jitter! As it's general goal is centered around reversing the effects of climate change as opposed to doing damage control. Maybe they are aiming too high, but hopefully that means that their shortcomings travel further than they would have otherwise.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on August 02, 2020, 11:33:59 AM
oops, sorry for not coming back here for so long, but here are those postcards Róisín!

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I made 12, one for each month, and each expressing either an effect of climate change to be avoided (wildfires, desertification/drought, sea level rise, etc.), causes (pollution, fossil fuels, deforestation, etc.), or just general inspiring (if one could call them that) drawings. I made these almost half a year ago, so they're quite old. I was contemplating eventually making another set of 12, for next year, that has solutions on them, but I'm not sure. Like I said, I've done practically nothing with them, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of activism (why make something if you're not gonna use it to advocate for your cause?? it kinda makes me disappointed in myself. Like i don't have the courage to publicly stand behind what I believe in, only privately. I'm working on that though, thinking of how I can spread them beyond just my social media and circle of friends/family), but maybe I will soon. Or at least someday.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on August 02, 2020, 11:42:44 AM
Those are beautiful! Have you talked to any conservation groups about maybe promoting them?
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Jitter on August 02, 2020, 04:32:15 PM
Alkia! Especially the one with Earth crouching in the tree about to be felled is clever and touching. Well done! Hopefully you’ll find use for these.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Vulpes on August 02, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
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Like I said, I've done practically nothing with them, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of activism (why make something if you're not gonna use it to advocate for your cause?? it kinda makes me disappointed in myself. Like i don't have the courage to publicly stand behind what I believe in, only privately. I'm working on that though, thinking of how I can spread them beyond just my social media and circle of friends/family), but maybe I will soon. Or at least someday.

Don't beat up on yourself too much, taking large-scale action is difficult, especially on your own. You're still doing good by sharing these postcards, and whatever else you do within your social circle - we all need to lead by example, as well as doing the bigger, more dramatic things. I have a similar inner dialogue (I should do something big!) but try to remind myself that my day-to-day choices are probably more important than anything splashy that I might attempt.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on August 02, 2020, 07:34:46 PM
Vulpes, I think you are right. ‘Think globally, act locally’. Our day to day actions make more difference than most people realise. I think I do more good by teaching kids to recycle and grow their own food  and clean up the river than by any amount of yelling and waving banners. ‘Be the change you want to see’ is a wise slogan.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on August 03, 2020, 12:41:55 PM
thank you, everyone!

Those are beautiful! Have you talked to any conservation groups about maybe promoting them?
thank you! And no, I haven't yet, although there are a few local groups I could probably go to-- I just haven't had the time or commitment to do so. It's a good plan though!!

Alkia! Especially the one with Earth crouching in the tree about to be felled is clever and touching. Well done! Hopefully you’ll find use for these.
thanks!! I will, I just haven't yet, and I keep putting it off

Don't beat up on yourself too much, taking large-scale action is difficult, especially on your own. You're still doing good by sharing these postcards, and whatever else you do within your social circle - we all need to lead by example, as well as doing the bigger, more dramatic things. I have a similar inner dialogue (I should do something big!) but try to remind myself that my day-to-day choices are probably more important than anything splashy that I might attempt.
Vulpes, I think you are right. ‘Think globally, act locally’. Our day to day actions make more difference than most people realise. I think I do more good by teaching kids to recycle and grow their own food  and clean up the river than by any amount of yelling and waving banners. ‘Be the change you want to see’ is a wise slogan.
thank you-- that mentality is one of the things that reassures me the most. Composting, recycling, gardening some of our own food-- those things are just as important as bigger actions, and add up over time
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on August 03, 2020, 08:22:37 PM
I have heard what we do described as ‘Saving the world one backyard at a time ‘. Every little bit helps toward the big stuff.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Auxivele on August 10, 2020, 07:51:36 PM
I didn't know this thread existed, but I'm very excited to see that it does! My parents are both botanists, so we've been learning about protecting the environment since the womb.

oops, sorry for not coming back here for so long, but here are those postcards Róisín!

Spoiler: show

(https://i.imgur.com/FhWq8jt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3GQsvi3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4D57DSy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5PNQpuH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IUUdR8P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dqddXJi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nl6y3l1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pU5eVLy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IrhMcZW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9y20QwS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3KhbHBO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OO9w6HA.jpg)

I made 12, one for each month, and each expressing either an effect of climate change to be avoided (wildfires, desertification/drought, sea level rise, etc.), causes (pollution, fossil fuels, deforestation, etc.), or just general inspiring (if one could call them that) drawings. I made these almost half a year ago, so they're quite old. I was contemplating eventually making another set of 12, for next year, that has solutions on them, but I'm not sure. Like I said, I've done practically nothing with them, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of activism (why make something if you're not gonna use it to advocate for your cause?? it kinda makes me disappointed in myself. Like i don't have the courage to publicly stand behind what I believe in, only privately. I'm working on that though, thinking of how I can spread them beyond just my social media and circle of friends/family), but maybe I will soon. Or at least someday.


I love these, they are very creative! And don't worry about not making massive changes yet. As Róisín said, just by doing your part, however small it may seem, you're encouraging change. Maybe those around you will be encouraged to do something, which will create a chain reaction.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on August 13, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
Twelve of them.... hmmm. Have you considered making a calendar? Maybe sell it both to maintain yourself and your art, and to donate a part of the proceeds to an environmental charity. I expect that a lot of folk here would buy it and spread the word!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on August 14, 2020, 06:53:58 PM
Twelve of them.... hmmm. Have you considered making a calendar? Maybe sell it both to maintain yourself and your art, and to donate a part of the proceeds to an environmental charity. I expect that a lot of folk here would buy it and spread the word!
the idea was one for each month, yes, but wow! I've never thought about a calendar! My vague thinking was handing them out at climate protests while encouraging people to write to their local representatives with them (which, due to corona, isn't happening anytime soon), distributing them with the help of an environmental group with the same explanation, and posting them on social medias. I'd have to research calendar makers and shipping and the payment process (none of which I've ever done before), but that's a really good idea!! It's probably time for me to get into that stuff anyway, seeing as selling my art online is an idea I've wanted to investigate for a while. I haven't because school and music have taken up too much time, but perhaps now would be a good time. Thank you!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Auxivele on August 18, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
I agree with Róisín, a calendar seems like a great idea! You could always do a combination of calendars and post cards, if that doesn't make things too expensive.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: itstricky on October 02, 2020, 08:16:26 PM
woo I love the postcards and I love the calendar idea. It can be really hard to figure out what the right course of "action" is in all of this, but I believe that even building knowledge around the earth is important. I'm writing my thesis on how people's (involuntary) relationship with the environment influences their experience with climate. I'm really hoping to eventually find that there is a lot of power in education and art when it comes to climate change activism.

i know this is kind of a late reply but now might be a good time to get into this, i've had quite a few friends start selling their art thanks to the Vid and there seems to be a lot of momentum around supporting art right now!
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on July 03, 2021, 06:48:21 PM
man, I haven't been in this thread for a while! there hasn't been any progress on the postcard/calendar front yet, I've been too busy with other projects and also mental health things, though I have yet more ideas on how to use them (perhaps as a fundraiser to fund solar panels for my school? don't know if that's even feasible, I'd have to somehow talk to someone at school to see if that's anywhere in the range of possibility, but it's an interesting idea!)

anyways, just wanted to drop by to share this very cool video that my mom showed me:
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 04, 2021, 07:04:44 AM
That is amazing, and exactly the kind of thing that I am trying to do with my meagre third of an acre, and people like the Brookmans are trying to do with their much larger areas. Yes, yes, yes! We have to work with the ecology rather than against it if we are to continue to have water, air and food enough for all.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Alkia on July 04, 2021, 09:08:22 AM
That is amazing, and exactly the kind of thing that I am trying to do with my meagre third of an acre, and people like the Brookmans are trying to do with their much larger areas. Yes, yes, yes! We have to work with the ecology rather than against it if we are to continue to have water, air and food enough for all.
that's so cool!!!!! it's great to hear from direct real-life people that they're doing this kind of stuff too, not only watching documentaries or youtube videos and thinking "that's happening somewhere". it's cool how you also don't need much land for it to work-- I mean, this guy has many many acres, but that it can be scaled down like to a third of an acre!!

It does make me think too, though, about colonialism and farming/owning stolen land, and how indigenous peoples have been using techniques that keep the land healthy for hundreds if not thousands of years before. I have no idea how much overlap there is between techniques like in this video and Indigenous practices, I haven't researched that at all yet, but it makes me want to learn more. I mean, even if you don't own or farm the land yourself, just live on it, I sometimes wonder what it looked like 500 years before.
Title: Re: SSSSolar Punks
Post by: Róisín on July 04, 2021, 07:56:00 PM
All good points, Alkia. And in much of Australia that was certainly the case. The Perramangk in my area used firestick farming and related techniques to manage the land as a treed savannah landscape that made the most of both plant and animal foods, and I try to integrate both European and native food plants into my garden. I also teach the methods, as well as showing people how to forage responsibly and to prepare what they find. Food security is a bigger deal than most people think. Our town also puts a lot of effort into cleaning up the river. We live in the driest state on the driest inhabited continent, and water is important.

If you want to see a glorious example of the method in action, look up The Food Forest at Hillier, South Australia, run by Graham and AnneMarie Brookman. They live not far from here and are really interesting people.