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Worlds & Stories Discussion Board / Re: Comic of the Month
« Last post by dmeck7755 on Today at 08:50:39 AM »


Also, FYI, Widdershins is back from hiatus and just updated today! (The 22th, according to the URL.)
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YAY!!  I know this is the last chapter, and it will be good to see it ended properly
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Worlds & Stories Discussion Board / Re: Girl Genius discussion OPEN SPOILERS
« Last post by thorny on May 22, 2024, 11:47:18 PM »
Gil likes to live dangerously. Why else would he keep Bang around?

-- though I suppose telling her to leave might be even more dangerous, come to think of it.

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*pffft* Gil getting snarky with Bang? Right after she says that he didn't want to use explosives inside the bubble? ...and with such a s#1t-eating grin too, boy lives dangerously!   ;D
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Worlds & Stories Discussion Board / Re: Comic of the Month
« Last post by Linebyline on May 22, 2024, 09:33:32 PM »
Mag is such a slow learner. I kinda love that about her. It's so easy to fall into the trap of thinking that because a character has learned a lesson, they have to immediately change their behavior. I've certainly caught myself thinking that way. And in fairness it is a bit frustrating to see Mag respond to every new scary thing by insisting there's no way it could possibly work the way Id says it will. But you know what? That's life. Heck, that's me. We all fall back into the same habits even after we should know better. And this is probably a pretty minor spoiler, but...
Spoiler: show
it's so satisfying when she admits to herself, "I keep forgetting normal rules just don't apply here."


EDIT: And then shortly after...
Spoiler: show
she catches herself blaming Id for being in this mess and then immediately reminds herself that she'd be way worse off without her.


Also, FYI, Widdershins is back from hiatus and just updated today! (The 22th, according to the URL.)
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General Discussion Board / Re: General Discussion Thread
« Last post by thorny on May 21, 2024, 09:19:52 AM »
some more intel about the origin of squirrel cookies[/url] available.

That was great! Thanks!
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General Discussion Board / Re: General Discussion Thread
« Last post by JoB on May 21, 2024, 08:07:27 AM »
Two quick fun links before I disappear on two weeks' worth of travel ... :

There seem to be cooks getting into the footsteps of master chef Madsen now.
Also, there's some more intel about the origin of squirrel cookies available.
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Academy Board / Re: Writers' Corner
« Last post by Keep Looking on May 19, 2024, 08:34:41 AM »
I think it's an interesting story type if done correctly, because it reflects a lot of real-life experiences where you don't exactly choose for something to happen, but life stuff happens and suddenly you are having to react to and deal with events you did not want or anticipate.

I feel like there are a lot of criticisms of "story where the protagonist just reacts to events and doesn't actively choose them", but like - people make choices in their reactions. Reactions of necessity to adverse events can tell you a lot about someone's character. There's something compelling about a narrative of survival.

Stories where the protagonist actively chooses to go into their situation often give the reader a kind of hero fantasy - "imagine if you had this power/agency, or made these choices, or were able to enact change in this way". I feel that stories where the protagonist reacts to adverse events prompt the reader to ask different questions of themselves, such as "what would I do if I was in their situation".

It's interesting, at any rate. Potentially the pushback against this type of story is something cultural - in western culture particularly I feel that we have ideas of individualism and particularly the power of individual choice and agency and enacting change. You have to have a character enacting agency over the story. Narratives of necessity give the individual less power over the circumstances they find themself in. Not necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion.
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Academy Board / Re: Writers' Corner
« Last post by LooNEY_DAC on May 18, 2024, 02:39:12 PM »
Resurrecting this thread to vomit out my thoughts on a specific story type that seems to me to be denigrated or disregarded entirely in modern "how to write" literature et al, sparked by the declaration at a panel at a conference for writers that "the hero must choose to commit to the story"; being a natural contrarian, I immediately thought, "when did Dorothy make any such 'choice' in the movie The Wizard of Oz?" So here's some less-than-coherent thought on the matter.

Narratives of necessity

Narratives of necessity: protagonist is thrust into the situation of having to act; if they chose something, the choice seemed innocuous until they were too far in to go back, or the choice wasn’t a choice; singular objective (usually “survive”); only way out is forward/through; important thing is: they are home at the end, whether original or made (why “horror twist” ending is unsatisfactory and unsatisfying); NOT Hero’s Journey for protagonist (maybe for side character(s))

Usual structure: prologue showing “normalcy”; disaster strikes/the gauntlet is thrown; alternating challenges and downtime; the last hurdle; ending (see below)

Variations include: multiple protagonists w/potential group problems; no bad guy; multiple bad guys; pick up allies on the way; pick up bad guys on the way; split group so intercut between plot lines

Ending 1: Back home: the protagonist has overcome everything thrown at him and returned to where he was at the beginning (probably improved circumstances).
Examples: the Wizard of Oz; Finding Nemo; Back to the Future; Forbidden Planet; Nothing but Trouble; TRON; Escape from NY/LA; XXX; Return from Witch Mountain; Minority Report; Star Trek (films); the Prisoner; Speed; Predator; Jurassic Park; Sean of the Dead; Commando; the Terminal; Krull; Hakon Hakonsen

Ending 2: Still trying: the protagonist has overcome the current obstacles, but still needs to make their way home.
Examples: Flash Gordon; Lost in Space; Sliders; ST:Voyager; Nowhere Man; the Lost Continent

Ending 3: Here to stay: see subtypes below.
A: the protagonist has overcome all the obstacles, but finds a compelling reason to stay/return.
Examples: Lone Star Planet; The Time Machine (film); Kindergarten Cop; American Dreamer
B: there was never any chance of returning, just surviving/building a new life for themselves.
Examples: Buck Rogers; Lord Kalvan; Planet of the Apes (film); Terminator franchise; Total Recall; the Running Man; Bourne franchise; Charade; most robinsonades
C: the whole point was to get away.
Examples: the Horse and His Boy; Escape to Witch Mountain; the Mysterious Island; Swiss Family Robinson

Ending 4: Everybody dies: Either the final obstacle requires a heroic sacrifice or there’s a twist ending (usually unsatisfying and unsatisfactory).
Examples: Impostor; Phantom of the Paradise; most zombie movies

Well, there's as much as I've articulated on the matter. Does anyone else have thoughts they wish to share?
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by JoB on May 13, 2024, 03:48:45 PM »
I also note that I managed to correctly spell "machine" exactly once out of four times on these Bingos...
I don't know what you're talking about, "Maschine" is the correct German spelling ... 8)
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by Mirasol on May 13, 2024, 07:58:12 AM »
Hm, I mean... not really, does it? :'D (I might have counted it though I don´t remember...)

I also note that I managed to correctly spell "machine" exactly once out of four times on these Bingos...
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