Ok so is it about actual abandoned art (stuff that one has definitively given up on finishing) or about WIP? Because they are, to me, different things, and the title suggests one while the content suggests the other
id say both, but i picked the title for alliteration.
should i change? Abandoned and WIP art thread?
However, I did it in oil pastels (my first attempt in decades using those) and totally, totally ruined it - it has not nor will not see the light of day. For some reason I took a photo of the pencils, though. I could, in theory, now import it into the drawing program I've been using, make a transparent layer and trace the figures (I have a new toy, a Cintiq, with a pen!), then proceed to work it digitally.I copy all my pencil drawings, because one of the kids likes coloring, and if i keep aditional copys, I can try out everything and redo as often, as I want.
I sincerely hope you don't mind me presto-change-o changing the name of the thread, Kitty.
I seen your image through a couple of developments now, and think you're well on your way.
Oh man, this is a great idea! I have a mountain of WIP stuff I need to get done. With depression, executive dysfunction, and just not enough hours in a day, I could use the motivation/feedback.
Once i figure out how to post images I'll share.
Both your art looks so good! Keep it up!
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Spoilers with an apostrophe in their description cannot be opened. :(
Huh, what a weird condition :( Well, thanks!
Apostrophes, commas, punctuation in general. :trond:
I agree with Sc0ut (who is very knowledgable so ALL the respct)
@tzelly - that's some incredibly cool linework, I'm so excited to see this finished even though I've never played any Dark Souls. The background looks really complex, anyone would find it daunting to draw from scratch. Lots of artists that draw this kind of thing and don't specialise just in architecture use helping tools that are maybe on a "cheating" spectrum: I've seen everything from building one's own 3D environment in a 3D program to downright tracing screenshots or photos of architecture (the latter even with professional artists, which... I didn't believe would be the case until I personally saw it happen lmao).
If you're not comfortable with either of those, I'd suggest referencing from screenshots but going for a simplified version of the architecture, and relying on some dramatic lighting (if it works with your plans for the scene) to make the best of it and conceal some of the plainer areas.
Putting old masters in a genius pedestal is one of those misconceptions about the past that just gets around and is invariably hammered into modern artists' minds. Like, not only they were invested in finding new creative ways of becoming more efficient with tracing and perspective shortcuts but they really took their time. It's unfair to expect modern artists to spit out fantastic works at breakneck speed and without the benefit of the references and tricks the old masters resorted to.
Blender is progressively intuitive once you get used to the interface and 3D in general. Blender Stack Exchange and BlenderArtists likely have all info you'll need, and if they don't feel free to ask; I know a thing or two about it too though I may be a bit slow to reply.
Also several of the old masters had students working on the backgrounds and in large parts of the entire work!
Kitty Lovely color choices, I like where this is going. Is there anything you're getting hung up on we can help?
The more I hear about these "old masters," the more convinced I am that I should just draw on a photo (that I took) and sell it as an artwork :> (I'm sure that technique already exists lol)Welcome to the assembly line work (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping) of art ... >:D
As comes to the work by students, it’s still a testament to the master’s skill to be able to direct them in the use of color and lighting like that.
And it's also worth mentioning that there are artists who don't trace (probably a majority), and there always were. The process of making art is very personal, and dependent on the specific person's strengths and weaknesses, as well as their living situation.
water color and gouache work great together! I've also been trying to get the hang of them myself. :)
I really like the tilt of the image, a really strong start for a painting! (if you want any critique, I can take a closer look at it)
and I like the idea of the comic. If you feel like you need to get it out of your system (as a form of self therapy) then go for it! If your worried about how it will be received, then just wait until your comfortable sharing.
Is there any specific aspic of the comic that is concerning you?
I've never thought of combining the two, my thought was it'd look weird because one was opaque while the other was transparent! I did use a purple to darken some gouache for a still life a while ago, though, and it worked quite well! But I haven't used it for any other purpose. Gouache is a medium which I see a lot of good, cute paintings of, especially ones of nature, animals, and the like. Unfortunately I don't have the technical skill to pull those off, but they're very inspirational to look at. If you have any tips for it, you should tell me!
(I'm totally open to critique haha, especially if it's on technique or composition because my education in art has been utterly lacking in those respects.)
I don't want to bring discussion of the bunny comic into this thread, but it's basically just seeing how (in my opinion) terribly a story of a similar premise could be handled that got me doubting myself REALLY hard. My idea was more about the environment, though. I'll still finish it because, like you said, I need to "get it out of my system" and maybe I'll share it with some people I know just to get feedback :P
From the whole debacle with LP, the uproar is not entirely the subject matter, it was how Minna handled the situation and how it was disrespectful of the readers comfort/beliefs if they differ from Minna. I would say don't let this discourage you from writing your story. Im also writing a story (comic/game) that will hit some controversial topics, and I'm taking this event as an example of how not to handle any future criticism. So long as your not insensitive to your reader and are open to other point of views, you will do fine.
Yes, all of this. Besides, "a story with animal protagonists about an issue the world is facing at the moment because of capitalism" arguably applies to a ton of comics, animation, etc - Ghibli movies come to mind, for instance. It's not that unusual of a topic and people love to see it when it's handled well.
the main critique (and its not a big one) is that the background and the trees in the mid ground seem to blend together, a way around that is make the background a slightly different color or saturation of color. depending on the mood your going with, bright and happy could use a bit of yellow sun beams. or if more mysterious maybe a fog that is behind the mid ground trees. if you have a digital art program, you can try playing around with different options then painting it on the original.
From the whole debacle with LP, the uproar is not entirely the subject matter, it was how Minna handled the situation and how it was disrespectful of the readers comfort/beliefs if they differ from Minna. I would say don't let this discourage you from writing your story. Im also writing a story (comic/game) that will hit some controversial topics, and I'm taking this event as an example of how not to handle any future criticism. So long as your not insensitive to your reader and are open to other point of views, you will do fine.
Best of luck with your comic/game (or both at the same time? Both is good) :)
Catbirds, I would be interested, if you like?
Wave - haha, oil pastels are pretty difficult, aren't they? You should try a digital redo, though! Or even redo it from scratch on paper. And then show us because I'm curious as to what the context of their dancing is! Sometimes, starting over helps somehow :>?
I feel kind of out of place replying here so much without actually posting (incomplete) art. Here you goSpoiler: art • show
Oh man this thread slipped from the new posts list way too fast. I still don't have any contributions to make—my secret for no stalled WIPs: declare them done when sick of them!—but that won't keep me from poking it alive.
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By the way, I think wavewright62 is officially the first one in this thread to successfully see a paused WIP to completion? Congratulations! :hat: :sparkle:
I'm rather proud of the hair and most of the body, but how the heck do you do lighting, lips, noses, etc?? (The pink is a scribble of where I think the lighting would be, but I'm rather clueless on technique.)The sharply-contoured shadows in the scene strongly suggest that there is a single, point-shaped source of light. Most of the light effects currently shown suggest that it is off to the right¹ of the scene, pretty much sitting on the wall (if it extends straight to the right¹), somewhere around shoulder/head height of a standing person.
I'm rather proud of the hair and most of the body, but how the heck do you do lighting, lips, noses, etc?? (The pink is a scribble of where I think the lighting would be, but I'm rather clueless on technique.)
Wow! You've done a pretty good job at making these people look like they're in motion! And it looks like the tutorial worked well for you, too! The colours are so intense… O_O
Keep going :) I think it'll get somewhere good once you finish it and make a background. If you want, you can try to add tiny hints of texture just to finish it off
I'm trying to learn backgrounds a bit more. This is my first sketch attempt of a new scene (with a couple pngs of graffiti and blood splatter to help me get the idea), but it feels kinda off? Any tips?Not sure that this is what you meant to hear, but here goes ...