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Title: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 01, 2014, 06:57:41 PM
Suggest anything that might need improving or snazzing up of any kind.  Different from bugs and fixes in that these aren't urgent.

Here is what different staff groups can and can't do:

What a skald can do:
* Split threads into new topics
* Name new threads resulting from thread-splitting
* Edit any calendar event
* Merge threads
* Move threads to different boards.


What a skald can't do:
* Change or delete anyone's individual post
* Delete, lock, or unlock threads
* Sticky threads
* Add holidays to the calendar
* See or deal with anyone's PMs
* Ban/delete users
* Do major technical fixes



What a moderator can do:
* Everything a skald can do
* Lock/unlock topics
* Sticky topics
* Delete posts
* Ban/delete users
* Issue warnings to users


What a moderator can't do:
* (Anything technical)
* Add holidays to the calendar
* Add those little country flags (or any kind of imagery)
* Work with bugs/downtime/whatever
* Change the news up there
* See or deal with anyone's PMs



What an admin can do:
* Everything a mod can do
* Create new boards
* Make things visible/invisible to guests
* Add flags/smileys
* Change the news up there
* Change your login username (not the display name, you can change this on your own in your profile)
* Technical things
* Add/remove holidays to the calendar
* Edit forum site code
* Database stuff

What an admin can't do:
* This mostly depends on the admin and what their coding abilities, etc. are
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 01, 2014, 07:02:10 PM
Alright, so:  You've probably all noticed the "Newbie" labels near you avatars and names by now.  This is the lowest rank of a system that ranks users by their number of posts.  The current ranks are "Newbie," "Jr. Member," "Full Member," "Sr. Member," and "Hero Member."  I want to change these labels to reflect the themes of SSSS, so what do y'all think I should rename these ranks as?  Cleanser?  Mage?  Captain?  Scout?  Grade C Cat?  Citizen? 
Come up with some lists so we can make this place a little more unique!


If anyone will ever get banned I request they are marked as "infected" or.. hehe, troll.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 01, 2014, 07:04:39 PM

If anyone will ever get banned I request they are marked as "infected" or.. hehe, troll.
But of course.  :)
Although I think, once they're banned, their posts are simply removed altogether.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 01, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
Oh... some forums have them, but in the way that their name is crossed over and it says banned below that.
Of course ideally we shouldn't need to find out what happens......
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on September 01, 2014, 08:00:14 PM
Although I think, once they're banned, their posts are simply removed altogether.

Doubt it! It would make a nonsense of every thread they have ever posted in. No forum does that by default, that I know of.

There are add-ons for various forums which enable mods to remove every post in the case of, for instance, spambots, but it's unwise to do that in the case of previously well-behaved forum members who have become infected!

Here are some ideas for forum ranks.:
In Quarantine
Out of Quarantine
Serf
Scald
Scout
Cleanser
Grade C Derp-Cat
Grade B Farm-Cat
Grade A Lord-Cat
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 01, 2014, 08:32:49 PM
Doubt it! It would make a nonsense of every thread they have ever posted in. No forum does that by default, that I know of.

There are add-ons for various forums which enable mods to remove every post in the case of, for instance, spambots, but it's unwise to do that in the case of previously well-behaved forum members who have become infected!

Here are some ideas for forum ranks.:
In Quarantine
Out of Quarantine
Serf
Scald
Scout
Cleanser
Grade C Derp-Cat
Grade B Farm-Cat
Grade A Lord-Cat
Eh, that's how it was on my old SMF forum.  You're probably right about it being an add on.  It did destroy a lot of conversations, and it always confused me a bit.

"Serf/Plebian"  has certainly made it's way onto my watch list.  :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 01, 2014, 09:40:09 PM
Great rank names!
My suggestion is to replace "Serf" with "Peasant." We know the SSSS world uses the latter term. And the implication that, 90 years down the road, some people are in a permanent semi-slave status (cf. serfs in old Russia), makes me uncomfortable.  Although if that's what Our Author intends, I won't protest...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 01, 2014, 09:44:50 PM
Great rank names!
My suggestion is to replace "Serf" with "Peasant." We know the SSSS world uses the latter term. And the implication that, 90 years down the road, some people are in a permanent semi-slave status (cf. serfs in old Russia), makes me uncomfortable.  Although if that's what Our Author intends, I won't protest...
I didn't realize that was what serf meant.  Peasant it is, for now, though I'm waiting for the entire list to be finished before I implement it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 01, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
Also, would "Captain" fit?  It is a military rank, after all.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 01, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
Also, would "Captain" fit?  It is a military rank, after all.
I was thinking about using that one... Maybe "Troll-Slayer," or something like that, could be the highest rank if one of the characters gets a moniker of some kind.  Actually, that's a good one for moderators... 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: StellersJayC on September 01, 2014, 11:49:40 PM
I have a few ideas...

What if all of the titles were named after different trolls? It could be Hippo-Shrimp then Spider-Snake. More trolls could be added to the list with the ones causing the most destruction being the harder to achieve.

The same could be done with cool technology such as the Death-Train and the Cruise Ship for trees.

But, if naming titles after trolls and trains isn't your style, I definitely vote for the cat idea.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 02, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
The already-suggested list is not a bad idea, but here's mine anyways

Newbie: Grade C Derp Cat

Jr. Member: Skald

Full member: Cleanser

Senior member: Mage

Hero member: Grade A Expeditionary Kitty

Moderator: Cleanser/Forum Thor

I love the suggestion of having banned people listed as infected or trolls.

Is there a way of giving custom titles based on activity? For example, one who writes a lot of poetry could be known as a skald, one who discusses the world and the story a lot becomes Tuuri, whoever has a cat avatar is an Expeditionary Kitty, etcetera.

Also, if we were to consider the nationalities page and write them in order of how much Iceland likes them...

Newbie: Primitive Finn

Jr. Member: Naïve Dane

Full member: Messy Swede

Sr. Member: Brave Norwegian

Hero Member: something with Iceland... I can't come up with anything, truth be told
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 02, 2014, 03:52:38 AM
Alright, so:  You've probably all noticed the "Newbie" labels near you avatars and names by now.  This is the lowest rank of a system that ranks users by their number of posts.

In that case, do you know what the number of posts required to reach a particular level is?

Jr. Member: Naïve Dane
Full member: Messy Swede
Sr. Member: Brave Norwegian
Hero Member: something with Iceland... I can't come up with anything, truth be told

The Icelanders and Norwegians will appreciate that kind of ranking. The Swedes and Danes might question it though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 02, 2014, 04:32:47 AM

The Icelanders and Norwegians will appreciate that kind of ranking. The Swedes and Danes might question it though.

What about the Finns? :P

You're right, The Many Different Nationalities of the World put Danes above Swedes. How about:

Jr. Member: Messy Swede
Full Member: Knowing Dane

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Logical Psycho on September 02, 2014, 06:53:48 AM
I don't know.. let's not try to rank nationalities over each other.

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However, on a slightly related note: It might be nice to steal the official site's Flag Cheat Sheet, and make little flag-icons to optionally display alongside the icons for profile / mail / private message.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 02, 2014, 07:06:08 AM
I don't know.. let's not try to rank nationalities over each other.

Heh, you're right, we really shouldn't. I just thought it would be funny using the official nationality ranking in the comic. Look at it like this, mine is not even in the list XD
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 02, 2014, 08:52:26 AM

Alright, so:  You've probably all noticed the "Newbie" labels near you avatars and names by now.  This is the lowest rank of a system that ranks users by their number of posts.  The current ranks are "Newbie," "Jr. Member," "Full Member," "Sr. Member," and "Hero Member."  I want to change these labels to reflect the themes of SSSS, so what do y'all think I should rename these ranks as?  Cleanser?  Mage?  Captain?  Scout?  Grade C Cat?  Citizen? 
Come up with some lists so we can make this place a little more unique!
Some more background info, please, before I go full-tilt crazy ;) :
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on September 02, 2014, 10:28:06 AM
I don't know.. let's not try to rank nationalities over each other.

I agree - let's not start WWIII here on the forum!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hedge14 on September 02, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
Am I only one who doesn't like using different jobs as labels? I mean...  Our dear characters are team in SSSS. All jobs are needed! And I like to think them as equal to each other. So ranking jobs seems odd to me. Also, cat grades are kind of confusing.

However, I will admit that I don't have any better idea myself. :P

My plus votes go to In Quarantine and Out of Quarantine. Maybe we could expand that theme, to all labels? Maybe like add Immune as one label?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Logical Psycho on September 02, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
I agree - let's not start WWIII here on the forum!

Then again, that would be a massive achievement, and go down in the history books [negatively, but even so!].
Just like that fellow who burned down the temple of Artemis [heh, I forgot his name], even though I suspect this will be harder.

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Not sure I want/need this improvement, but it's a bit odd that it's possible to list your gender, and a male/female ratio exists at the Stats-page, but you can't see someone's gender at their profile.
I don't much care about them - but marked me as strange ;)

Oh! possible improvement!
Can we enlargen the emoticons? They seem really tiny.
More or less in line with the text though.. I'll grant you that.
So on that note, perhaps enlargen the text from 10pt to.. 12 or something?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 02, 2014, 02:16:23 PM
I agree - let's not start WWIII here on the forum!

Albert Einstein didn't know how WWIII would be fought. Now we know it - it will start on this forum, degenerate in a sci-fi virtual war, destroy our energy sources for some reason, and let us fight WWIV with sticks and stones

... Shall we do that?  :D
Am I only one who doesn't like using different jobs as labels? I mean...  Our dear characters are team in SSSS. All jobs are needed! And I like to think them as equal to each other. So ranking jobs seems odd to me. Also, cat grades are kind of confusing.


Ranking jobs does seem odd, but I personally did so in danger-rank. A mage has potentially unlimited power, and thus could stand a degree in dangerousness above a cleanser, who only has as much power as the flamethrowers' fuel.

Or, as someone suggested, we could use military ranks. As soon as we know them, that is.


Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hedge14 on September 02, 2014, 02:36:38 PM

Ranking jobs does seem odd, but I personally did so in danger-rank. A mage has potentially unlimited power, and thus could stand a degree in dangerousness above a cleanser, who only has as much power as the flamethrowers' fuel.

Or, as someone suggested, we could use military ranks. As soon as we know them, that is.

But as you said we do not currently even know what mages can really do. We don't know if there is situations where mages are defenseless. We only know that they can use protective spells and free souls and aid at battle. There is no info whatever they are dangerous or how capable they are fighting.

Ranking jobs can't be done, before we know how they really work or how dangerous they are. For all we know medics are most important part of group. :P Or, as I'd rather think, they all have their role to play.  :)

So, perhaps labels should just wait until we know more of world of SSSS?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 02, 2014, 03:42:27 PM
How about something like

Peasant
Scout
Captain
Strategist
General

Military themed, but still understandable and fitting in the world of SSSS too. I don't feel like this ranks the jobs between main characters too much.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 02, 2014, 03:50:48 PM
How about something like

Peasant
Scout
Captain
Strategist
General

Military themed, but still understandable and fitting in the world of SSSS too. I don't feel like this ranks the jobs between main characters too much.

I actually think yours is the best suggestion until now, but that's just my opinion. I still think that admins should be listed as 'cleansers' or, alternatively, 'troll-slayers'.

How about exchanging 'peasant' with 'shepherd' in homage to Árni's ever-glorious ambition?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 02, 2014, 04:08:20 PM
I actually think yours is the best suggestion until now, but that's just my opinion. I still think that admins should be listed as 'cleansers' or, alternatively, 'troll-slayers'.

How about exchanging 'peasant' with 'shepherd' in homage to Árni's ever-glorious ambition?

Heh, I'm fine with that! Thank you!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hedge14 on September 02, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
I like idea of changing pheasant to shepherd. It sound softer! However, quite many people have suggested pheasant already and it's probably more common job in SSSS.

Not sure what I feel about military terms. They would be pretty clear and they do connect to story... However, I'd like labels that have even more SSSS-feel. Sorry if criticize too much, even if I have no solutions of my own. :(

+1 to troll-slayers as admins.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 02, 2014, 04:15:19 PM
I like idea of changing pheasant to shepherd. It sound softer! However, quite many people have suggested pheasant already and it's probably more common job in SSSS.

Not sure what I feel about military terms. They would be pretty clear and they do connect to story... However, I'd like labels that have even more SSSS-feel. Sorry if criticize too much, even if I have no solutions of my own. :(

+1 to troll-slayers as admins.


The reason why I chose those terms in particular is that every one of those positions is filled within the comic with someone - Lalli is a (night)scout, red-headed captain... is a captain, Taru is a strategist and Trond is a general. It also fits that they are in age order, from youngest to eldest.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hedge14 on September 02, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
You know, I like that youngest to oldest thing. I also do get that these positions appear in comic, but they are also used in real world as rankings so they do not have unique to SSSS feel to them. In other hand, for example "shepherd" is never term of ranking, so it kind of makes bigger impression.
I do agree that military terms do not rank team members like using sklad and mage or cleanser would. In that aspect I like them a lot. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 02, 2014, 04:49:35 PM

The reason why I chose those terms in particular is that every one of those positions is filled within the comic with someone - Lalli is a (night)scout, red-headed captain... is a captain, Taru is a strategist and Trond is a general. It also fits that they are in age order, from youngest to eldest.

So, going by the example of Trond, the highest level of forum user would be the retiree :P

I'm thinking the forum headline should probably be something like "The Stand Still, Stay Silent Fan Forum". It's the headline after all.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 02, 2014, 05:21:14 PM
WOW!  Lots of responses!  Coming back from work is going to be interesting this semester  :)  I'll try and respond to everyone's questions as best as I can.  I'll mull over the rank suggestions on my own for a while, but I quite like noako's idea.

Nimphy:  Yes, I can change groups around.  I just made a group for Skalds that can be requested.

Fimbulvarg and JoB: Yes, exactly 5 ranks, but I can change that all I want.  There's only one set of ranks, which applies globally; I can change how many posts it takes to get a rank up.
     Rank 1: 0-99 posts
     Rank 2: 100-249 posts
     Rank 3: 250-499 posts
     Rank 4: 500- 999 posts
     Rank 5: 1000+ posts

Logical Psycho:  I can't change the size of the emoticons, but I can look around the SMF site and try to find some new emoticons, which I know they have.  As for the font size, that should be changeable in the same part of the forum where I can change the font color.  I've found the place where I can change the font color, now it's just a matter of sorting through the forum's code (with the help of ctrl+F) to find the correct line of code.

Hopefully, I didn't leave anybody out!
Oh, and a quick P.S.:  We need some troll slayers, because I'm gone for most of the day, during weekdays, and I would like some help with the site.  I'm technically a student, but I'm doing a pseudo-internship right now, so work eats up most of my time. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ferbette on September 02, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
I nominate Minna to be awarded Moon Goddess status
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: SlewedQuasar890 on September 03, 2014, 03:01:50 AM
Cleanser for mods sounds awesome
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 03, 2014, 09:06:05 AM
Okay, here goes:

Post-count-based ranks: Scouting Stranger, Farm Hand, Villager, Citizen (in the original sense, i.e., someone living in a city), Capital Dweller. To be extended as counts rise, and the protagonists discover new, ever-more-interesting locations. :) (Keep posting now, and you can become a Ruler of the Derelict Airport!)

Special ranks (I'm listing more specials than the forum software AFAIK supports, just in case):

Minced Troll - banned permanently
In Quarantine - banned temporarily
Fallen Caster - a user whose posts will only be published after a mod proofread them (presumably due to persistent use of strong runo, er, language ;) )
Cleanser of the Scroll - forum mods
Lady of the Budget - forum admin (yes, that means you, Eich. You are getting billed for this server, aren't you? :P )
Snout of the Giant - anyone whose big-mouthing has incurred the wrath of her Ladyship :'(
Aurora Officialis - Minna herself

I'm intentionally staying away from single words straight from the comic (e.g., "Troll") because they're usually part of a series (Beast/Troll/Giant/...) that we might want to use as a series later on.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mayabird on September 03, 2014, 09:18:51 AM
I may be wrong but there doesn't seem to be any method for saving a draft of a post.  If there's not, can that functionality be added?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hedge14 on September 03, 2014, 11:58:11 AM
Hhmm, I don't know if this is the most relevant improvement to do currently, but maybe you should add board for fan-art and fanfiction? There is lot of talented people here, so new board will come useful at some point.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 03, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
Ferbette: I don't think she has an account, does she?

JoB:  Literally everything about your post was clever.  Very seriously considering making "Ruler of a Derelict Airport" the top rank; it's hilarious.  Two things though:  server is free, but I'll upgrade to paid if the site ever starts having lagging issues or something serious, and... I ain't no lady   :D

Mayabird: There's no way currently, but I'll check out the SMF site for a modification.  I've always used copy+paste, but if you only need to save so you can look back through a couple pages, as long as you use your browser's back and forward buttons, you can check previous pages without losing your post.  I'd recommend experimenting with that on a post sometime.  In the mean time, I'll check out the site and get back to you on the upgrade.

Hedge14: Anyone can make a fanart thread in the SSSS board and aRTD board if they want to.  However, that brings me to my next topic...
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I'm considering making a "Skald" class for certain users...  It would be a decorative title awarded by me or a mod to anyone who's contributed a lot of artistic content to the comments section of Minna's site, the poetry threads, any art threads, or even some kind of musicians' thread that might exist at some point.  What does everybody think about that?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 03, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
Two things though:  server is free, but I'll upgrade to paid if the site ever starts having lagging issues or something serious, and... I ain't no lady   :D
a) Close enough to being the treasurer IMHO ;)
b) The comedic contrast was sort of the point of choosing Ms Icelandic Government as the namesake ... :P
I'm considering making a "Skald" class for certain users...
Same caveat about single-word in-storyverse terms like "Troll" = banned or "Cleanser" = mod as already mentioned in my post. "Resident Skald", mayhaps?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 03, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
a) Close enough to being the treasurer IMHO ;)
b) The comedic contrast was sort of the point of choosing Ms Icelandic Government as the namesake ... :PSame caveat about single-word in-storyverse terms like "Troll" = banned or "Cleanser" = mod as already mentioned in my post. "Resident Skald", mayhaps?
Mayhaps... I don't really see what kind of series skald would fit into, though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 03, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Mayhaps... I don't really see what kind of series skald would fit into, though.
It's one of the established professions in the storyverse, just like cleanser, (other) military, (other) academic, peasant etc. ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 03, 2014, 10:53:51 PM
I like a "[Resident] Skald" optional title.  I can already think of 4-5 posters in the Poetry section who should be practicing their acceptance speeches.  (Honestly, the one starting "It's going to be okay. Okay?" nearly brought me to tears.)

If you do that, would you consider a "Fussy Academic" designation, for those of us who like to dive deeply into topics like how to scrub trollcrud off trains or how much Emil is motivated by noblesse oblige vs. egotism?  Although I long to reach the exalted title of "Empress of the Derelict Airport," I can see that other posters are already more active, in a wider variety of topics. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 03, 2014, 11:08:02 PM
I like a "[Resident] Skald" optional title.  I can already think of 4-5 posters in the Poetry section who should be practicing their acceptance speeches.  (Honestly, the one starting "It's going to be okay. Okay?" nearly brought me to tears.)

If you do that, would you consider a "Fussy Academic" designation, for those of us who like to dive deeply into topics like how to scrub trollcrud off trains or how much Emil is motivated by noblesse oblige vs. egotism?  Although I long to reach the exalted title of "Empress of the Derelict Airport," I can see that other posters are already more active, in a wider variety of topics. 

I think having a class for every type of former would defeat the purpose.  The folks who are talking and diving deeply into topics are doing what forumers are supposed to do, but the folks who are making stuff like poetry and art are doing something different, and something that everyone else can benefit from, so I thought it'd be worth a class of it's own.  Skald would be reserved for maybe 4 or 5 people at most. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haverberg on September 04, 2014, 12:32:06 AM
I'm only skimming this thread so apologies in advance if it's already been bought up, but I was surprised the forum didn't have email verification.

You're going to need it to keep out most of the trolls.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unlos on September 04, 2014, 02:49:27 AM
If you do that, would you consider a "Fussy Academic" designation, for those of us who like to dive deeply into topics like how to scrub trollcrud off trains or how much Emil is motivated by noblesse oblige vs. egotism?  Although I long to reach the exalted title of "Empress of the Derelict Airport," I can see that other posters are already more active, in a wider variety of topics.

If you want that title, there's no reason why fussy academics can't put it in their profile, right were Eich has put "Ground control to Major Tom?"
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 04, 2014, 03:26:42 AM
Eich, you make a good point about saving the special class for people who really do something different and special -- the poets and artists.  I withdraw my suggestion.

Are you accepting nominations for "Skald"?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on September 04, 2014, 06:56:17 AM
It would be pretty handy if we had some sort of spoiler code. Large images can be hidden that way, and large sections of text if we get into essay mode (which might happen, SSSS has that potential). Not so much useful for actual spoilers (if someone isn't up to date with the comic, why would they be here?), but useful nonetheless.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: asadderandawiserman on September 04, 2014, 01:21:21 PM
Hey! I've just got back from Rome, so I'm able to make an account now. Great idea, this forum, and I'd only expect it to get bigger with the amount of comments SSSS is getting nowadays.

In terms of user titles, I know a lot of people have been thinking of using the various infected creatures as names for the banned, but given that they're one of the only definitive sets of things we've been given in the comic, I thought it could be nice to use them as the regular user titles. Something along the lines of:

Vermin Beast
Beastly Monster
Twisted Troll
Writhing Giant
Nameless Monstrosity

In terms of art for the site, I saw that Minna offered to send Eich some high quality images, but I think we should wait until we decide on a proper name for the site, so we can give it a sort of theme. I have a couple of ideas for names, and I'd love to hear what you peeps think, and any that you can think of.

My first idea for a name is naming the site after the vehicle that the team is apparently going to get fairly soon, which I think will end up being a fairly major meeting point for the main cast, and an appropriate name for a forum.

We could call it The Capital of Scandinavia as a reference to the title that Mora (and modern day Stockholm) has given itself. Also, the comic will be, it seems, entirely set in Scandinavia, so it would be appropriate I think.

Another idea is Reykjavik Inn, since Reykjavik is, after all, the capital of the known world, or The Troll's Nest, which would be particularly appropriate if we decide to go with the troll system of user titles.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 04, 2014, 02:24:40 PM
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I'm considering making a "Skald" class for certain users...  It would be a decorative title awarded by me or a mod to anyone who's contributed a lot of artistic content to the comments section of Minna's site, the poetry threads, any art threads, or even some kind of musicians' thread that might exist at some point.  What does everybody think about that?

I think that's an excellent idea! There's a good list of contributors to poetry, but regular ones are not too many: five or six, perhaps? Do you already have an idea of who could get that title?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 04, 2014, 04:10:17 PM
The current icon for boards (the blue/gray squares) is a bit bland. Maybe we could get someone with graphic design skills to make two transparent png icons resembling the six armed snowflake/star symbol that is used in the comic. We could have a red one for boards that are updated and the usual gray for boards with no new updates.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 04, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
It would be pretty handy if we had some sort of spoiler code. Large images can be hidden that way, and large sections of text if we get into essay mode (which might happen, SSSS has that potential). Not so much useful for actual spoilers (if someone isn't up to date with the comic, why would they be here?), but useful nonetheless.
Looking for a spoiler code again; the last one I found was outdated, and I keep forgetting to continue searching.

Are you accepting nominations for "Skald"?
I think that's an excellent idea! There's a good list of contributors to poetry, but regular ones are not too many: five or six, perhaps? Do you already have an idea of who could get that title?
The four or five who post most consistently, here or in the comments, or have contributed the most.  Thiscat, for instance, started the poetry thread for the SSSS board, and has been filling it up pretty steadily with everybody's work.  Give a who and a why, and I'll see about it.

The current icon for boards (the blue/gray squares) is a bit bland. Maybe we could get someone with graphic design skills to make two transparent png icons resembling the six armed snowflake/star symbol that is used in the comic. We could have a red one for boards that are updated and the usual gray for boards with no new updates.
Great idea.  Minna said she'd be happy to make some stuff for the forum, so if she contacts me about that, I'll bring it up with her.  Otherwise, I know there's a couple of good artists in the comments who might want to help.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 05, 2014, 04:07:35 PM
The four or five who post most consistently, here or in the comments, or have contributed the most.  Thiscat, for instance, started the poetry thread for the SSSS board, and has been filling it up pretty steadily with everybody's work.  Give a who and a why, and I'll see about it.

ThisCat would surely be the first to be awarded the title of Skald. She started the poem thread, kept collecting them, and wrote a good number of poems herself. I'd suggest Mikko and Riorlyne, but neither of them are in the forum. Come to think of it, the few regular poets are not here. There's ThisCat, and I think me, too. I mean, I've written a good number of poems and helped a little with the thread. Plus, I came up with the skald idea °^°
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 05, 2014, 04:48:27 PM
ThisCat would surely be the first to be awarded the title of Skald. She started the poem thread, kept collecting them, and wrote a good number of poems herself. I'd suggest Mikko and Riorlyne, but neither of them are in the forum. Come to think of it, the few regular poets are not here. There's ThisCat, and I think me, too. I mean, I've written a good number of poems and helped a little with the thread. Plus, I came up with the skald idea °^°
I was originally going to make that post about Mikko, but I figured it'd be best to go with someone I knew had an account.  I really want him to show up.  He's just so gosh darn delightful to talk to.  I don't think I've read any of Riorlyne's stuff yet, though. 
You're also spearheading the wiki, too...  hm...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 05, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
I was originally going to make that post about Mikko, but I figured it'd be best to go with someone I knew had an account.  I really want him to show up.  He's just so gosh darn delightful to talk to.  I don't think I've read any of Riorlyne's stuff yet, though. 
You're also spearheading the wiki, too...  hm...

Of course you've read Riorlyne's stuff, you just don't know it's hers. It's impossible not to read Orli's stuff! Her poetry rivals Mikko's! Just head over to the poem thread and you'll see (I suggest 'It's going to be okay', if you manage to find it)

Yup, you're not the only one hoping Mikko joins in. He would be a most valuable member of the community, and darn fun to talk with.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 05, 2014, 05:12:41 PM
ThisCat would surely be the first to be awarded the title of Skald. [...] and I think me, too. I mean, I've written a good number of poems and helped a little with the thread. Plus, I came up with the skald idea °^°
Yes, you were one I had in mind for the pioneering Skald title.  I agree that if Mikko/Incanus and Riorlyne ever show up on this forum, they too should be greeted with laurel wreaths and vatic mantles.  (Or whatever badge of honor Nordic skalds historically wore... my classical roots are showing.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/la-fleur-de-la-folie/4920680830/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/la-fleur-de-la-folie/4920680830/)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on September 07, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
...  Otherwise, I know there's a couple of good artists in the comments who might want to help.

I could probably whip up a few symbols in paint without much trouble. Shoot me a message whenever.

... I'd suggest Mikko and Riorlyne ...

Don't forget Sir. Orc. That dude's written a lot of poetry. Trust me, I had to collect it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 07, 2014, 02:28:21 PM
I could probably whip up a few symbols in paint without much trouble. Shoot me a message whenever.

Don't forget Sir. Orc. That dude's written a lot of poetry. Trust me, I had to collect it.

Of course, I forgot him! And he surely deserves a skald title, for all the quality poetry he's written!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 07, 2014, 05:04:30 PM
I was trying to make some transparent images just to showcase what I had in mind but apparently that's just impossible unless you have professional programmes. Seriously, GIMP is a nightmare and I'm so done.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/thetokaymmafia/ssssicontransparencyfail.png?t=1410123539)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/thetokaymmafia/ssssicontransparencyfailgrayscale.png?t=1410123555)

Apparently the white area on the gray one turned dark during grayscaling....
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 08, 2014, 05:52:13 AM
I was trying to make some transparent images just to showcase what I had in mind but apparently that's just impossible unless you have professional programmes. Seriously, GIMP is a nightmare and I'm so done.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/thetokaymmafia/ssssicontransparencyfail.png?t=1410123539)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/thetokaymmafia/ssssicontransparencyfailgrayscale.png?t=1410123555)

Apparently the white area on the gray one turned dark during grayscaling....


That's awesome! Good job!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 08, 2014, 11:39:35 PM
*Sigh*  I don't want to have a new thread on this board at the moment, so I'm just posting this here, because this is going to be something I'll be looking into improving for quite a while, I think.

We had our first spambot today.  His topic has been deleted, and every relevant facet of his account has been banned.  I'm not deleting his account quite yet, because he was using one of those rerouting hostnames/IPs, and I want to find a way to block out his hostname altogether, so every bot that might come from there will be blocked.  Thanks everyone for reporting it, I'm really happy that so many people knew exactly what to do.  You've made this a relatively swift swing of the banhammer and I really appreciate it.

Also, lovely icons, Fimbulvarg.  I'll try swapping them in tomorrow. 
Anyway, it's almost midnight, and I've got work tomorrow, so... goodnight everybody, and thanks again.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 09, 2014, 03:40:36 AM
Thanks for your hard work defending us against icky spammers, Eich!  I'm a little baffled as to why you take on all this trouble for a purely volunteer project, but we certainly appreciate it. 

And if you end up putting this forum on your resume, LinkedIn, etc., as a sample of your webmastery, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd gladly endorse you.  Assuming we ever find out who the Clark Kent behind the Superman is...   ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 09, 2014, 04:24:46 AM
Also, lovely icons, Fimbulvarg.  I'll try swapping them in tomorrow. 
Anyway, it's almost midnight, and I've got work tomorrow, so... goodnight everybody, and thanks again.

In that case, here's a grayscaled one without the grayed out embossed area
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/thetokaymmafia/ssssicontransparencyfailgrayscale2.png)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 09, 2014, 04:33:16 AM

We had our first spambot today.  His topic has been deleted, and every relevant facet of his account has been banned.  I'm not deleting his account quite yet, because he was using one of those rerouting hostnames/IPs, and I want to find a way to block out his hostname altogether, so every bot that might come from there will be blocked.  Thanks everyone for reporting it, I'm really happy that so many people knew exactly what to do.  You've made this a relatively swift swing of the banhammer and I really appreciate it.


We did? And I missed it? Aww  :(

 :P Thanks for protecting us against the spambot Giants, Eich!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 09, 2014, 04:53:58 AM
*Sigh*  I don't want to have a new thread on this board at the moment, so I'm just posting this here, because this is going to be something I'll be looking into improving for quite a while, I think.

We had our first spambot today.  His topic has been deleted, and every relevant facet of his account has been banned.  I'm not deleting his account quite yet, because he was using one of those rerouting hostnames/IPs, and I want to find a way to block out his hostname altogether, so every bot that might come from there will be blocked.  Thanks everyone for reporting it, I'm really happy that so many people knew exactly what to do.  You've made this a relatively swift swing of the banhammer and I really appreciate it.



Oh, I guess it's back here again. I'll keep the topic locked in case you need it for anything.

Edit: I think we might need some kind of filter for these spambots. I removed another thread. They are multiplying....... oh, the horror, the horror..
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 10, 2014, 02:28:36 PM

Oh, I guess it's back here again. I'll keep the topic locked in case you need it for anything.

Edit: I think we might need some kind of filter for these spambots. I removed another thread. They are multiplying....... oh, the horror, the horror..

It's like a .... disease.

If the problem persists though it might be an idea to consider that second mod thing, we probably want the threads closed down ASAP in case they link to bad sites.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on September 10, 2014, 09:41:39 PM
Yeah, setting up a capcha and email-confirmation is kind of becoming urgent; the frequency of the spam bots seems to be increasing.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: StellersJayC on September 10, 2014, 11:46:27 PM
Somehow I've missed all the spam bots?... Is there something I should be looking out for just in case?
But if it is such an - apparently invisible - issue, some sort of security would be a great idea.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see the problem now. My goodness.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: greger on September 13, 2014, 10:06:36 AM
This being a forum about a multi-lingual comic (btw, I hate the word 'comic' for strips like SSSS), I think it would be useful if forum members could declare which languages they understand or speak/read. Maybe using flags?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: StellersJayC on September 13, 2014, 11:00:34 AM
This being a forum about a multi-lingual comic (btw, I hate the word 'comic' for strips like SSSS), I think it would be useful if forum members could declare which languages they understand or speak/read. Maybe using flags?
I really like that idea. Would there be a way to declare languages that people are currently learning/semi-fluent in? A lot of people on this forum are trying to learn new languages from what I've seen. (Including me.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 13, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
That's not particularly hard, I just tested out a solution using icons in the signature. Hopefully you're able to see it. I suppose it would be for the best though if Eich could let us know if the forum can handle image files in signatures.

I'm not sure stealing icons from Humon's site is the right way to do it, but well ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on September 13, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
I really like that idea. Would there be a way to declare languages that people are currently learning/semi-fluent in? A lot of people on this forum are trying to learn new languages from what I've seen. (Including me.)

Pretty good idea. I only speak three languages fluently, but if we were counting languages I'm trying to learn/semi-fluent in that becomes seven or something like that.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 13, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
That's not particularly hard, I just tested out a solution using icons in the signature. Hopefully you're able to see it. I suppose it would be for the best though if Eich could let us know if the forum can handle image files in signatures.

Also I'm not sure stealing icons from Humon's site is the right way to do it, but well ...
Image files and gifs are fine in sigs.  Just... don't make them too big or, if they are big, scale them down a bit using a little BBCode, because it's not fun having entire pages taken up by oversized signatures.  Good solution, by the way.  I'm not sure if there's a way to add another slot of info in the avatar area but, for now at least, this is a pretty elegant solution.

I like the idea Greger.  Even if we don't use flags, we can just write what languages we know in the sigs or something.  The only real use I can think of would be for the language learning thread, though.  That said, I'm monolingual, so I don't really know what uses there might be.  Maybe a quick way to know what potential areas of the world people live in?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on September 19, 2014, 08:19:05 AM
That's not particularly hard, I just tested out a solution using icons in the signature. Hopefully you're able to see it. I suppose it would be for the best though if Eich could let us know if the forum can handle image files in signatures.

I'm not sure stealing icons from Humon's site is the right way to do it, but well ...

Okay, I give up. How did you do that? I can't get it to work.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 19, 2014, 10:22:14 AM
Okay, I give up. How did you do that? I can't get it to work.

Seeing as how you already have a signature I assume you know how to access the Signature option (it's in the Modify Profile menu).

In your signature field you need to insert image brackets. They should look like (img)(/img), but with square brackets.

You can now insert the url of any image file you want to add to your signature inside the brackets. I have two brackets, one for the Norwegian flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/no.gif) and one for the British flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/gb.gif) separated by a space.

You can find convenient flag icons on Satwcomic.com (http://Satwcomic.com/the-world) or on  wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 19, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
You can now insert the url of any image file you want to add to your signature inside the brackets.
Unless the targeted site has taken measures to prevent bandwidth theft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_linking#Controversial_uses_of_inline_linking), of course ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 19, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
Unless the targeted site has taken measures to prevent bandwidth theft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_linking#Controversial_uses_of_inline_linking), of course ...

Sure. Saving the image and uploading it to a photobucket account or similar is probably the more polite option.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on September 19, 2014, 01:34:33 PM
Seeing as how you already have a signature I assume you know how to access the Signature option (it's in the Modify Profile menu).

In your signature field you need to insert image brackets. They should look like (img)(/img), but with square brackets.

You can now insert the url of any image file you want to add to your signature inside the brackets. I have two brackets, one for the Norwegian flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/no.gif) and one for the British flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/gb.gif) separated by a space.

You can find convenient flag icons on Satwcomic.com (http://Satwcomic.com/the-world) or on  wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29).

Thank you!  :)

I am so bad at these kinds of things.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 19, 2014, 02:17:41 PM
Thank you!  :)

I am so bad at these kinds of things.

No problem. I'm sort of tech-illiterate myself, but having been on several forums before is an advantage when it comes to these things.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on September 20, 2014, 03:41:56 PM
No problem. I'm sort of tech-illiterate myself, but having been on several forums before is an advantage when it comes to these things.

Yeah, I've learned so much since I started commenting regularely on SSSS.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sanlade on September 22, 2014, 12:25:55 PM
How about a background image on the forum page? A grey background dosen't seem to be fitting SSSS-comic standard. Could we use one from Minnas gallery(With her permission of course)?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 22, 2014, 06:56:58 PM
How about a background image on the forum page? A grey background dosen't seem to be fitting SSSS-comic standard. Could we use one from Minnas gallery(With her permission of course)?
Minna said she'd be willing to donate some art.  She's very busy at the moment, with the comic and print drive, so it might be a while.
I was going to add the icons that Fimbulvarg made over the weekend, but circumstances were less than allowing.  I'll be doing that either this weekend, or when I have some time to after dealing with some irl stuff this week.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on September 23, 2014, 12:03:20 PM
How about putting a link to the comic and/or indiegogo somewhere up there?
And also I think someone suggested this already, but it'd look better if it said "The Stand Still, Stay Silent fan-forum" instead of SSSS.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on September 23, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
Good idea about linking to the comic. After all, though we assume people will come here from the comic, there's no reason to rule out that people will come here after an internet search for something that coincidentally brings this forum up.

Perhaps a link in the top navigation bar would be appropriate, after "members" and "Logout".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 23, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
Went ahead and changed the heading.
The comic link will be harder to implement, but I know where I can look to learn how to do it. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 23, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
Went ahead and changed the heading.
The comic link will be harder to implement, but I know where I can look to learn how to do it.

The comic link works.  Thanks, Eich!
You know what would make a nice upgrade if it's ever doable?  Formatting the forum name, link, etc. in the typeface Minna uses in the comic's dialog bubbles.  IIRC, she designed it herself, but it looks a bit like Albertus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertus_(typeface)), the one used in The Prisoner (including open, "Greek"-style lower-case E's). 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on September 23, 2014, 06:01:33 PM
The comic link works.  Thanks, Eich!
You know what would make a nice upgrade if it's ever doable?  Formatting the forum name, link, etc. in the typeface Minna uses in the comic's dialog bubbles.  IIRC, she designed it herself, but it looks a bit like Albertus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertus_(typeface)), the one used in The Prisoner (including open, "Greek"-style lower-case E's).
That one's just a placeholder until I can get an actual button made.
Hmm... I'm not sure if I can add fonts or not.  I'll have to do some snooping around to figure that one out.  If we can, Minna might be willing to donate some letters, or someone could try their hand at designing some letters.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 23, 2014, 06:14:26 PM
That one's just a placeholder until I can get an actual button made.
Hmm... I'm not sure if I can add fonts or not.  I'll have to do some snooping around to figure that one out.  If we can, Minna might be willing to donate some letters, or someone could try their hand at designing some letters.

Wouldn't it be better/easier to get a partly transparent banner image, placed top centre?

Something like this (https://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/853139/files/20140912193802-a_book.jpg) (but mostly transparent).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 24, 2014, 02:04:28 AM
Wouldn't it be better/easier to get a partly transparent banner image placed in the top centre?

Something like this (https://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/853139/files/20140912193802-a_book.jpg) (but mostly transparent).

Ooh.  I like that better!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 15, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
Putting up Fimbulvarg's redesigned board notification picture things.  Work in progress, but I'm getting there.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 15, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
Got it.  Learned a little more about the how the forum selects data, too.
If anyone wants to help out editing these new stars to be a tiny bit smaller (Fimbulvarg, do you remember making them a specific size?), or lightening the values a little to match with the very white and grey theme we have, just say so.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sparky Dragon on October 15, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Ooh, it's so pretty!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 15, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
Yep.  And they go so much better with our particular forum than those drab speech bubbles of the past.  You did a really good job with them, Fimbulvarg!   :D

Not sure why the text is alternating black and gray.  I edited the stylesheets again to take care of it, and the preview shows that as not being a problem, so I'm not sure why it's still happening.  ...  Actually, is it still happening?  Are peoples' posts alternating colors for anyone else?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: potatobunny on October 15, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Oooooooooooh I just saw the folders change to the SSSS symbol.  :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 16, 2014, 01:04:12 AM
Oooooooooooh I just saw the folders change to the SSSS symbol.  :D

I love the stars! 
I didn't see them till I hit "Refresh" on my browser (Chrome on a 2007 Mac).  By then, I had read all the new posts.  So when there are unread posts in a given folder, will the stars be a different color?  (Before, blue folder icons = unread posts.)

FWIW, I'm not seeing my text in different shades of gray/black -- it's the same as it was before.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: potatobunny on October 16, 2014, 01:10:07 AM
The unread ones are red!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 16, 2014, 01:11:40 AM
The unread ones are red!

Ah yes!  Thanks to your comment, I could see it happen.  Once again, I had to hit "Refresh."

Very nifty!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 16, 2014, 03:51:25 AM
Fimbulvarg, do you remember making them a specific size?

Yes siree, I remember making them about the same size as the former icons. I can see now that they might need to be scaled down a bit.

By then, I had read all the new posts.  So when there are unread posts in a given folder, will the stars be a different color?  (Before, blue folder icons = unread posts.)

We have a set of gray stars equivalent to the grey folder icon.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on October 16, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
They are showing for me too! Wohooooo.
Looking good!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 16, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
Yes siree, I remember making them about the same size as the former icons. I can see now that they might need to be scaled down a bit.

We have a set of gray stars equivalent to the grey folder icon.
Only a little.  The main thing is that there're still two folders on the front page, under the boards.  One says "No new posts," the other, "New posts." 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 16, 2014, 05:20:23 PM
Only a little.  The main thing is that there're still two folders on the front page, under the boards.  One says "No new posts," the other, "New posts."

Hmm yeah. Let's ... *looks at crammed calendar* ... Let's schedule an update in December, yeah?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 16, 2014, 05:30:01 PM
Hmm yeah. Let's ... *looks at crammed calendar* ... Let's schedule an update in December, yeah?
Sounds good to me.  Took me a while to put the first ones up anyway, haha.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 21, 2014, 01:01:31 PM
Is there a way to split existing threads?  That is, pull out a particular segment of a long conversation that focuses on a particular theme into its own thread, for easier reference?  Or is it possible to index a really big thread? 

As for why we'd want to:  The General Discussion thread has covered a lot of ground, from amiable chat to Serious Business.  A few times, it's budded off topics into their own thread (like the Introduction Board, where some readers have pasted in their excellent responses from the original GD thread).  But they still had to manually copy-and-paste or recreate their intros.

I was thinking, what if we could just slice off a chunk of the GD thread into its own ready-made topic?  Retaining everyone's forum IDs, links, quote levels, etc.?  That way, future readers could more directly find the stuff that interests them, rather than delving through all 2,500 (or whatever) responses.

Just an idea.  If it's either not doable or doesn't seem of interest, I'm fine with that.

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on October 21, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
It's already been done at least once!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 21, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It's doable. 

I was going to do that for a weird dream talk thread, but forgot.  The GD is really good for coming up with thread ideas so, if it comes up again I'll be sure to try it out.  As it is now, I'm not sure if it would break the middle of a conversation or not.  :P  I think Noako's moved a couple posts into new topics before, so there's at least one person who might be able to help with more specific questions.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 21, 2014, 11:24:29 PM
It's doable. 

I was going to do that for a weird dream talk thread, but forgot.  The GD is really good for coming up with thread ideas so, if it comes up again I'll be sure to try it out.  As it is now, I'm not sure if it would break the middle of a conversation or not.  :P  I think Noako's moved a couple posts into new topics before, so there's at least one person who might be able to help with more specific questions.

Sounds good to me!  As time permits, I'll reread the GD for any topics that pop out at me.
(Meanwhile, I have to help my dad set up some Excel spreadsheets for a real estate project of his.   :P  He's a brilliant, stubborn, cranky, introverted 75-year-old retired Naval officer... which is to say, I love him to bits but we often butt heads.  He's basically equal parts John McCain and overprotective Onni, with a Carl Sagan-esque New Age streak in there just for chuckles.  Pray for me...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on October 21, 2014, 11:38:19 PM
Sounds good to me!  As time permits, I'll reread the GD for any topics that pop out at me.
(Meanwhile, I have to help my dad set up some Excel spreadsheets for a real estate project of his.   :P  He's a brilliant, stubborn, cranky, introverted 75-year-old retired Naval officer... which is to say, I love him to bits but we often butt heads.  He's basically equal parts John McCain and overprotective Onni, with a Carl Sagan-esque New Age streak in there just for chuckles.  Pray for me...)
Good luck!  (He sounds pretty awesome, by the way ;D)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on October 22, 2014, 12:40:11 AM
It's doable. 

I was going to do that for a weird dream talk thread, but forgot.  The GD is really good for coming up with thread ideas so, if it comes up again I'll be sure to try it out.  As it is now, I'm not sure if it would break the middle of a conversation or not.  :P  I think Noako's moved a couple posts into new topics before, so there's at least one person who might be able to help with more specific questions.


Yeah it's fairly simple but time consuming, seeing as I need to search the thread for the individual posts... I'm also not sure if I can move the topics into their own thread, or into existing one... I'll look at it later today, or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 23, 2014, 12:27:42 AM

Yeah it's fairly simple but time consuming, seeing as I need to search the thread for the individual posts... I'm also not sure if I can move the topics into their own thread, or into existing one... I'll look at it later today, or tomorrow.

So if we see topics that we think deserve to be sliced off into their own threads (like "weird dreams"), should we PM you (admins Noako/Eich) with the URL of the earliest message in that topic?  Or would you prefer that we handle it some other way?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on October 23, 2014, 03:59:24 AM
So if we see topics that we think deserve to be sliced off into their own threads (like "weird dreams"), should we PM you (admins Noako/Eich) with the URL of the earliest message in that topic?  Or would you prefer that we handle it some other way?


That sounds good actually. Link to the first message, then I continue the job from there. ^_^
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 31, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
How about a birthday calendar?  No years, just months/days.  That way, we can all celebrate Our Dear Creator's birthday in January, and wish one another many happy returns of the day if we feel like it.
Low priority, I admit...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: tedlar on October 31, 2014, 04:48:48 AM
adding a langages part to the forum members profiles
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 31, 2014, 05:58:11 AM
adding a langages part to the forum members profiles

We have that, see page 5 in this thread.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: tedlar on October 31, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
We have that, see page 5 in this thread.
In the signature field you need to insert image brackets: Norwegian flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/no.gif)

Is the owner of this site ok to let you borrow those flags?
Are there all nations?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on October 31, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
In the signature field you need to insert image brackets: Norwegian flag (http://satwcomic.com/flags/no.gif)

Is the owner of this site ok to let you borrow those flags?
Are there all nations?

Flags are generally public property, if I'm not wrong, and Humon looks like a nice girl anyway. I don't know if there are all nations, but I did find Albania, which is unusual, so I'm thinking that as long as you know the right code (and don't write "SW" instead of "SE" if you live in Sweden or stuff like that) you can find the flag.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on October 31, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
Flags are generally public property, if I'm not wrong, and Humon looks like a nice girl anyway.
Flag designs are usually exempt from copyright. The renditions of that design that you can find on Wikipedia/Wikimedia have usually been put in the public domain, while others' - especially more "artistic" - renditions can be copyrighted and may or may not be available for a license fee. Causing traffic on one website (say, SatW) to have someone's browser display a page purportedly hosted on another (say, this forum) is called "bandwidth theft" and, as long as traffic has to be paid for, a demonstrable damage the owner of the former site may sue for.

There's a reason why, over on the wiki, I strongly recommed (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Flags#Use_of_Flag_Icons_in_this_Wiki) to download flag images from Wikipedia and upload them to the Wikia server itself after some editing.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on October 31, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
Flag designs are usually exempt from copyright. The renditions of that design that you can find on Wikipedia/Wikimedia have usually been put in the public domain, while others' - especially more "artistic" - renditions can be copyrighted and may or may not be available for a license fee. Causing traffic on one website (say, SatW) to have someone's browser display a page purportedly hosted on another (say, this forum) is called "bandwidth theft" and, as long as traffic has to be paid for, a demonstrable damage the owner of the former site may sue for.

There's a reason why, over on the wiki, I strongly recommed (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Flags#Use_of_Flag_Icons_in_this_Wiki) to download flag images from Wikipedia and upload them to the Wikia server itself after some editing.

...Oops. Should we switch to different flags, then?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on October 31, 2014, 05:09:06 PM
...Oops. Should we switch to different flags, then?
I think the first thing to get pinpointed is whether flag icons can be uploaded to and served off the PCRiot.com server (my guess: Eich, but not the random user, can upload them as "emoticons" - which raises the question whether the click-to-add list atop the window to edit your postings will suddenly fill the entire screen ...).

If they can, we can grab them off Wikipedia royalty free like I proposed for the wiki.

If not, we would have to have the forum load them off some other server. I didn't check yet, but I don't think that Wikia will be happy to serve them just because wiki and forum have largely the same user base ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 31, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
I think the first thing to get pinpointed is whether flag icons can be uploaded to and served off the PCRiot.com server (my guess: Eich, but not the random user, can upload them as "emoticons" - which raises the question whether the click-to-add list atop the window to edit your postings will suddenly fill the entire screen ...).

If they can, we can grab them off Wikipedia royalty free like I proposed for the wiki.

If not, we would have to have the forum load them off some other server. I didn't check yet, but I don't think that Wikia will be happy to serve them just because wiki and forum have largely the same user base ...

Mine are now hosted by photobucket though, won't that suffice? I mean, the "intellectual property" aspect can only be worked around using e.g. wikipedia's icons but at least there is no bandwith leaching involved since photobucket kind of exists to serve that purpose.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on October 31, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
Mine are now hosted by photobucket though, won't that suffice?
Well, I didn't say that finding a provider willing to host cross-site icons is downright impossible, though there's some conceptual problems with it (user behavior getting logged on both servers and false CSS alerts when you run an analyzer) ...

[Has a quick looksie at the Terms and Conditions of Photobucket (http://photobucket.com/terms)]

Those Terms and Conditions IMHO actually fail to pinpoint whether having one Photobucket user (say, you) maintaining a collection of icons for use by other users on this forum is considered permissible use. I'ld guess they do allow it, though - after all, it all counts for the metered bandwidth you'ld be paying for.

The actual gotchas are someplace else, I suppose ...
Quote
Photobucket reserves the right to terminate your Membership at any time (even if you've paid), without warning for any or no reason, with or without prior notice or explanation and without liability
"Thanks for the money (and the imagery you just uploaded and granted us permission to use for free), now get out." ???
Quote
Photobucket has the right to place advertising, promotions, notifications or identifiers and watermarks on or near your Content, and how and what are up to us.
Comical effects of shoe-horning a 700x300 ad banner into a 20x15 flag icon aside, the flags are symbols of the respective governments' authority and having it tacked onto a commercial is exactly the kind of use that might be considered illegal by said government. Not very likely that they will take legal action (it would be quite difficult to prove intent of any involved party), but still ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on October 31, 2014, 07:26:52 PM
Well, I didn't say that finding a provider willing to host cross-site icons is downright impossible, though there's some conceptual problems with it (user behavior getting logged on both servers and false CSS alerts when you run an analyzer) ...
I'm sorry, can you translate what you just said into tech-illiterate idiot-friendly language?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on October 31, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
I'm sorry, can you translate what you just said into tech-illiterate idiot-friendly language?
a) Your browser to Photobucket's server: "Hi, the SSSS forum told me to retrieve the XY icon from you so as to include it into their ABC page." Result: Photobucket knows when and what you've been doing on the forum. Even if you're neither the registered Photobucket user nor the forum poster who included the icons in his post.

b) Having parts of a page you load come from two different servers means that the admin of one server can mess with the outcome if he wants to, on top of the information leakage from a). Any decent software that you let analyze your website for possible problems will be yelling bloody murder when it sees such a contraption. 8)

Or, the really short version: You do want to put all your eggs (software, content) into one basket (server) if your goal is to make an omelette (everything coming together into a web page) in the fastest and simplest way. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on November 02, 2014, 12:48:15 PM
Hmmm, could our mods transfer the language-related threads in General Discussion to the Language Board? The Language Exchange Program and Learning Russian threads at least definitely belong there.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on November 02, 2014, 01:27:10 PM
Hmmm, could our mods transfer the language-related threads in General Discussion to the Language Board? The Language Exchange Program and Learning Russian threads at least definitely belong there.

Oh yeah. I was going to, but the forum had problems so I couldn't... Going to do that right away!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: tedlar on November 05, 2014, 07:38:27 AM
You do want to put all your eggs (software, content) into one basket (server) if your goal is to make an omelette (everything coming together into a web page) in the fastest and simplest way.

If you have contacts with the owner of http://satwcomic.com/ (Humon ?)
why not ask her if she can provide us with a copy of all her small flags ?
Eich can then place them in a folder on the same site as the forum and give us a link.

I will soon have more time avalaible, so I can help you a little, even if I think JoB has more knowledge on this issue.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: olavi on November 06, 2014, 10:00:51 AM
I believe you can get the same flagset from here: http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/ (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/)

Some BB systems I've seen have had flag shorthands where you can just type [flag]code[/flag] and it'll convert to appropriate flag. I did a quick search for an extension that would do this for simple machines forum used here. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be one for it or atleast I couldn't find it if there is. I don't think it would be too hard to implement if you could modify the smileys replacement script (or even write a separate extension). Then again, it's not too hard to just use direct image links if and when those are uploaded to the server. :P

Edit: Apparently you could easily write package info xml file and just install the flags as smileys. If I remember correctly the downsides to that (i.e. flooding the write reply screen) have been discussed already.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
Flags are now in the forum's database.  Check the first post of this thread for details on how to use them.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Clayres on November 11, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Flags are now in the forum's database.  Check the first post of this thread for details on how to use them.
It works! Once the British flag is uploaded, will it be found under :england:?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 08:26:28 PM
It works! Once the British flag is uploaded, will it be found under :england:?
It's now :uk:
:uk:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on November 11, 2014, 08:28:52 PM
What about the American flag? Or is that unnecessary?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 08:32:17 PM
What about the American flag? Or is that unnecessary?
I added some variants in English because there are so many English speaking countries.  "America" is the name of two continents.  The United States is a country, so I made it :usa:.
:usa:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: mithrysc on November 11, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
Flags are now in the forum's database.  Check the first post of this thread for details on how to use them.

Yessss.... Thankyouthankyouthankyou *shakes hand enthusiastically*
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on November 11, 2014, 09:31:21 PM
Okay, so there's an Australian flag (yay!). Could I have a South African one, too, please? And what's the code for the Dutch flag?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 10:17:53 PM
Okay, so there's an Australian flag (yay!). Could I have a South African one, too, please? And what's the code for the Dutch flag?
SA's loaded up  :southafrica: = :southafrica:
Dutch flag is :netherlands: = :netherlands:

It is Netherlands, right?  "Dutch" has always confused me.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on November 11, 2014, 10:20:32 PM
You could add the flag of the Vatican for those who know some Latin :p

Oh and turkish flag needed.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 11, 2014, 10:25:07 PM
You could add the flag of the Vatican for those who know some Latin :p
Done.
:vaticancity: = :vaticancity:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on November 11, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
SA's loaded up  :southafrica: = :southafrica:
Dutch flag is :netherlands: = :netherlands:

It is Netherlands, right?  "Dutch" has always confused me.

Thank you!~ Yes, it's Netherlands. I have no clue why the adjective is "Dutch" in English, it's one of those confusing things English does, heh. I'm also not at all sure why German is German in English, either. Word etymology, hmm.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on November 11, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Yay, thanks! Don't forget Turkey also!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: olavi on November 11, 2014, 11:05:47 PM
Oh cool, you got the shorthands working too. Thanks for your work!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on November 12, 2014, 07:48:38 AM
:norway:
:uk:
It works! :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on November 12, 2014, 11:32:22 AM
Yayyy, it works! And now I can put more flags!

Eich... Could we also have a little :world: emoticon? I need it for... purposes.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Clayres on November 12, 2014, 11:44:26 AM
Yayyy, it works! And now I can put more flags!

Eich... Could we also have a little :world: emoticon? I need it for... purposes.
Oh Hades, Hel and Tuonela (and what other realms of the dead there are), Nimphy wants to take on world domination...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ThisCat on November 12, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
Oh Hades, Hel and Tuonela (and what other realms of the dead there are), Nimphy wants to take on world domination...

This is news to you?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Clayres on November 12, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
This is news to you?
Yep. The "domination" part. I always knew she liked to kill everyone, but actual rule, or well, tyrany... On hindsight, you might be right.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on November 12, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
This is news to you?

Yep. The "domination" part. I always knew she liked to kill everyone, but actual rule, or well, tyrany... On hindsight, you might be right.

Oh Hades, Hel and Tuonela (and what other realms of the dead there are), Nimphy wants to take on world domination...

No! No... You are mistaken...

Okay, okay, you know of my plan and ambition! Flee in terror or bow before my world-conquering might!

A gift in cookies will also do.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 12, 2014, 06:52:14 PM
Went ahead and moved a bunch of those posts about etymology over to the Language Board.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on November 12, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
Went ahead and moved a bunch of those posts about etymology over to the Language Board.

Excellent.  (Steeples fingers in best Montgomery Burns fashion.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on November 12, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
I don't like being that person, but where it mentions the update up at the top, it should say "you're" instead of "your"...
(I just find grammar mistakes really distracting, sorry)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 12, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
I don't like being that person, but where it mentions the update up at the top, it should say "you're" instead of "your"...
(I just find grammar mistakes really distracting, sorry)
*Cough* Aheh!  o_o'
What do you mean?  Grammar problem?  I don't see any grammar problem.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haverberg on November 13, 2014, 07:54:28 PM
OK, so how do I indicate I'm fluent in American English and learning "Proper" English (UK)? [yes, it's a joke]

I tried USA, United States, UK, United Kingdom ... I see there are flag codes for both but I don't know the magic words.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: mithrysc on November 13, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
OK, so how do I indicate I'm fluent in American English and learning "Proper" English (UK)? [yes, it's a joke]

I tried USA, United States, UK, United Kingdom ... I see there are flag codes for both but I don't know the magic words.

Thanks :)

What you have in your signature is almost correct. The magic must be done with lowercase letters. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haverberg on November 13, 2014, 11:27:21 PM
Yay!!!  - Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on November 20, 2014, 09:58:30 AM
Stupid question: Is there a way to have a link on the forum page (pretty much like the link to the comic, top right), but only for your (logged in) self? I have certain places within this site *cough*wiki discussion*cough* I'ld like to be able to jump to directly ...

(Yes, OK, there's bookmarks in one's browser, but .......)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 21, 2014, 06:47:31 AM
Stupid question: Is there a way to have a link on the forum page (pretty much like the link to the comic, top right), but only for your (logged in) self? I have certain places within this site *cough*wiki discussion*cough* I'ld like to be able to jump to directly ...

(Yes, OK, there's bookmarks in one's browser, but .......)
I know there are options for users to customize certain things: their profiles (obviously), the site theme, etc. But I don't think there's any way to customize links.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on November 21, 2014, 05:24:09 PM
Someone noted that a flag of Portugal would be welcome in the collection.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 21, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
yes it is and it makes me sad :portugal:
brazil is also absent :brazil:
:angola: and :mozambique: seem to also be missing. Poor portuguese speakers with no options :-[
could someone who may add them? pretty please o:)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 21, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
yes it is and it makes me sad :portugal:
brazil is also absent :brazil:
:angola: and :mozambique: seem to also be missing. Poor portuguese speakers with no options :-[
could someone who may add them? pretty please o:)
I'll add them in.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 21, 2014, 06:07:52 PM
Awesome! thank you
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ruth on November 22, 2014, 03:27:27 AM
hi, this seems to be the thread where people ask for more flags! people have told me that i speak a completely different language from spanish, so if you don't mind could you upload the cuban flag? (http://satwcomic.com/flags/cu.gif)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 22, 2014, 12:43:16 PM
hi, this seems to be the thread where people ask for more flags! people have told me that i speak a completely different language from spanish, so if you don't mind could you upload the cuban flag? (http://satwcomic.com/flags/cu.gif)
Yep.  Thanks for uploading the picture!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Yannick on November 23, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
Do you have a catalan flag?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalonia
:catalan: and :catalonia: don't seem to work (maybe as it is only a part of spain and not a country, but still a different language)

Could you add a post with all the flags and their :NAME: so we don't ask you some already available?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on November 24, 2014, 11:24:22 AM
Could you add a post with all the flags and their :NAME: so we don't ask you some already available?
Ohh, that's a great idea!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on November 25, 2014, 12:50:48 AM
Dear Uncle Thor and Auntie Troll-Slayer:

Would you consider moving several messages from the "Translations and Readings" thread in the SSSS board to the Name Etymologies thread in the Language board?  Noako and Nimphy had already commented that the discussion was getting hijacked by speculations about characters' names and their cultural/religious background.

The sequence of messages I'd like to move starts with this very nice essay about the different ways "luck" translates in Finnish to Onni's and Tuuri's names (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=12.msg9148#msg9148). 
Pessi also had a great contribution:  http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=12.msg10392#msg10392

Thanks!

Sunflower
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on November 25, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
I decided to finally make this thread.

I have gotten many requests in many boards to move this topic to there, merge this thread to that one, and I'm not always ready to do that at that moment - but when I'm ready, I have a hard time finding the request.

So, please, put them here! As the topic says, this is non-urgent, and preferably only for moderator/skald issues, not admin!

What a moderator can do:
* Lock/unlock topics
* Sticky topics
* Edit any calendar event
* Merge/split/rename topics
* Move/delete posts
* Ban/delete users


What a moderator can't do:
* (Anything technical)
* Add holidays to the calendar
* Add those little country flags (or any kind of imagery)
* Work with bugs/downtime/whatever
* Change the news up there



What a skald can do:
* Split threads into new topics (even non-contiguous posts)
* Name new threads resulting from thread-splitting
* Edit any calendar event
* Merge threads (which will be named/dated after the oldest post of both threads)
* Move threads to different boards.


What a skald can't do:
* Change or delete anyone's individual post
* Delete, lock, or unlock threads
* Sticky threads
* Add holidays to the calendar
* See or deal with anyone's PMs
* Ban/delete users
* Do major fixes -- the kind admins have dealt with. 

Let's see how this turns out!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on November 25, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
Perhaps The Ecology of Monsters (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=209.0)

could merge with Origin of monsters (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=30.0)?

While the titles are different, there seems to be a lot of overlap between the two.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on November 26, 2014, 03:37:22 AM
Perhaps The Ecology of Monsters (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=209.0)

could merge with Origin of monsters (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=30.0)?

While the titles are different, there seems to be a lot of overlap between the two.

Merged. :)

This was exactly what I meant, thanks!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on November 30, 2014, 06:54:40 AM
I'd like to see the Irish Flag as well (started learning Irish Gaelic during the last days). Shall I search for a pic for making your work easier?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 30, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
I'd like to see the Irish Flag as well (started learning Irish Gaelic during the last days). Shall I search for a pic for making your work easier?
I can find that one pretty easy.  I'm travelling today, though, so it might make things a little faster if you do a quick search.
I'll get it set up when I'm back at my apartment.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on November 30, 2014, 11:48:24 AM
(http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/icons-land/vista-flags/16/Ireland-Flag-1-icon.png)

Would this one be legal?

It's from this website (http://www.iconarchive.com/show/vista-flags-icons-by-icons-land/Ireland-Flag-1-icon.html) and they say that even commercial use would be allowed.

Also this one would be nice for signing:
(http://www.clker.com/cliparts/R/2/4/c/O/h/sign-language-interpretation-symbol-md.png) Also available in blue: (http://www.clker.com/cliparts/k/7/9/i/N/7/purple-background-terp-hands-md.png)

From this ressource (http://www.clker.com/clipart-sign-language-interpretation-symbol.html), though they only talk about embedding.

Have a nice journey.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on November 30, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
Would this one be legal?
clker.com states in their terms that any material uploaded needs to be in the public domain, so the sign language icon is OK. (Though they both made me go "what's HP gotta do with sign language!?" for a moment. ::) )

Icons-Land, however, distributes their flags as linkware, i.e., you have to provide a link back to them "with credits" (prevents just making the icon itself into a link) wherever the icon shows up. Hence the verbiage around the one I put on the wiki (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Flags#Flags_as_Language_Symbols).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on November 30, 2014, 01:12:33 PM
clker.com states in their terms that any material uploaded needs to be in the public domain, so the sign language icon is OK. (Though they both made me go "what's HP gotta do with sign language!?" for a moment. ::) )

Icons-Land, however, distributes their flags as linkware, i.e., you have to provide a link back to them "with credits" (prevents just making the icon itself into a link) wherever the icon shows up. Hence the verbiage around the one I put on the wiki (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Flags#Flags_as_Language_Symbols).

Uhm, I guess I understood that the resource for the Irish flag is not valid. The rest.... erm well. I'm not that good about the little traps in copyrights on the internet. I downloaded a flagset to my computer, but as Uploading is no opportunity either, I fear I have to search further. What kind of Licence would I have to look for?

Edit: (http://www.public-domain-photos.com/free-cliparts-1/flags/europe/ireland.png) this one is from a public domains website. (http://www.public-domain-photos.com/free-cliparts/flags/europe/ireland-2980.htm). This might be better? Though the actual shape is not 16*16
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on November 30, 2014, 02:54:18 PM
This might be better? Though the actual shape is not 16*16
IIUC Eich already has a set of national flags available from famfamfam, just didn't install them all right away. I grabbed the same *.zip for potential use, and there seems to be an ie.gif and an ie.png included ... ?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 30, 2014, 05:50:09 PM
Apparently, I already had the flag listed in my super secret forum files, I just forgot to upload it.
It's in the site now.  :ireland:
Sign language one is too big.  Any chance somebody could scale those?  I have no knowledge for that.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: curiosity on November 30, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
Sign language one is too big.  Any chance somebody could scale those?  I have no knowledge for that.

Well I've tried. Maybe it should be just a little bit bigger, eh?
(http://i.imgur.com/cZn2Wxa.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/2vsua6B.gif)

Also, any chance of having Ukrainian flag? I suspect I'm the only one who needs it here, but still, that would be very nice of you  :)

UPD (didn't want to post a tiny message separately): Thanks a lot, Eich!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on November 30, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
Well I've tried. Maybe it should be just a little bit bigger, eh?
(http://i.imgur.com/cZn2Wxa.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/2vsua6B.gif)

Also, any chance of having Ukrainian flag? I suspect I'm the only one who needs it here, but still, that would be very nice of you  :)
Thanks.  Got them both uploaded, now.
:sign: = :sign:
and, of course, :ukraine:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on December 01, 2014, 12:13:11 AM
Thanks.  Got them both uploaded, now.
:sign: = :sign:
and, of course, :ukraine:

:) Thanks
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: mithrysc on December 11, 2014, 07:48:11 AM
Um, I feel kind of bad for being so pushy, but could the discussion on height be chopped off from the introduction thread? Starting from around hereabouts (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13065#msg13065), but still keeping PzKw IV G's introduction (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13312#msg13312) in its proper place?

I'm not sure if that discussion warrants its own thread, or is more of a General-Discussion-y type topic.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on December 11, 2014, 08:33:42 AM
Um, I feel kind of bad for being so pushy, but could the discussion on height be chopped off from the introduction thread? Starting from around hereabouts (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13065#msg13065), but still keeping PzKw IV G's introduction (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13312#msg13312) in its proper place?

I'm not sure if that discussion warrants its own thread, or is more of a General-Discussion-y type topic.

For what it's worth, I removed my post there  :-[
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on December 11, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
Um, I feel kind of bad for being so pushy, but could the discussion on height be chopped off from the introduction thread? Starting from around hereabouts (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13065#msg13065), but still keeping PzKw IV G's introduction (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=131.msg13312#msg13312) in its proper place?

I'm not sure if that discussion warrants its own thread, or is more of a General-Discussion-y type topic.

How about making it a general "how do you look"-thread? (The new thread where I'll move the posts, ofc.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: mithrysc on December 11, 2014, 04:37:06 PM
How about making it a general "how do you look"-thread? (The new thread where I'll move the posts, ofc.)

I guess that's okay (I really don't have any better ideas...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on December 11, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
How about making it a general "how do you look"-thread? (The new thread where I'll move the posts, ofc.)
That sounds fun, actually.
Maybe I'll take a... selfie.  Who knows?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on December 12, 2014, 05:26:15 AM
There's the new thread now. (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=223.0)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on December 14, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
The Scriptorium thread is having a discussion on referring to female superiors, should we move it?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on December 15, 2014, 08:36:51 AM
The Scriptorium thread is having a discussion on referring to female superiors, should we move it?

I think it could go to language board, but I'm not so sure. It seems like a good thread for "how is this person called in your language" but I don't know what the new topic should be called?

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on December 15, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
How about "Titles and Ranks across the world"?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on December 15, 2014, 12:28:15 PM
"Titles and formal forms across the world?"
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on December 15, 2014, 12:33:16 PM
Military civilities ?
Way too narrow, but I like it!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on December 15, 2014, 12:37:01 PM
"Titles and formal forms across the world?"


Many good suggestions, but I chose Nimphy because they notified me of the problem in the first place.
I also wrote a little note about the new thread in the first (Eich's) post, simply because almost every time I split topic people get confused.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on December 15, 2014, 12:48:35 PM

Many good suggestions, but I chose Nimphy because they notified me of the problem in the first place.
And it's the best. :)
Quote
I also wrote a little note about the new thread in the first (Eich's) post, simply because almost every time I split topic people get confused.

Always a very good idea! It's a good habit to get into when splitting threads. Some forum software require explanatory posts when splitting threads!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: noako on December 18, 2014, 04:26:01 PM
Hi, Noako.  Can you please merge Mayabird's recently created "Character Development: Mikkel"  (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=231.0)thread into the older one? 

As you can see from the 2nd and 3rd posts in that thread, I've cleared it with her.  You wouldn't need to move those posts, just her first one.  Hopefully, this will let that older thread jump to the list of newly updated ones.

Done. The old thread was bumbed to the 1st page too.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unlos on December 29, 2014, 02:36:54 PM
Could it be possible to post flash files here? I've tried the following link using the tags [flash]http://and[/flash] but it turns up blank.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/99162h3nuw43174/Hallingskasttest2.swf?dl=0

I found this discussion elsewhere:
Quote from: steve
(...) the correct form is:
[flash=width,height]http://url[/flash]
You can see your link in my SV PPC Test Board for proof. (Flash isn't allowed on phpBB.com apparently.)
Also, are you aware that you need to set the Allow use of [FLASH] BBCode tag in posts option on the Post settings page of the General tab as well as a forum-based permission to allow Flash?

link to discussion: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2122781
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: mithrysc on January 04, 2015, 05:57:22 PM
Not really an improvement, but was there any reason the Language learning discussion (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=180.msg15611#new) was locked? I've been offline for a few days, and maybe something came up that I missed, so sorry if the answer's really obvious. :-\
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on January 13, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
EDIT:

I have merged the threads below:

"The Face of Magic"  (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=66.0)thread with the more recent thread Korppi started ("Speculation on Magic and Spirits") (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=241.0), speculating on how magic works in the SSSS universe.  I suggested this to both thread creators (including BrainBlow, the older thread's creator), who have granted permission.

It is now called "Speculation on Magic and Spirits".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on January 13, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
I would like to move the "Main SSSS Site Outage (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=184.0)" thread here.  It was in the SSSS board, but I think it's better suited for here (especially since I reported the same "system" problem a couple of days ago).

I've notified users of that thread, and am waiting to hear back from them.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: AwsomelyNotAwsome on January 20, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Hello! Found this amazing comic some time ago and as I was creating my forum profile I noticed there was no Slovak flag. 99.9% sure I'm the only one that would need it, but in any case, would the o mighty forum Thors add one please? Thank you!
P.S. Tried using :slovakia: :slovakrepublic: and :sk: nothing works. If it's already on the forum, under what can I find it? Or can I just use the image/link in my signature that I posted here? Thanks.

(Possibility? From Humons SatW (http://satwcomic.com/flags/sk.gif) )
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on January 20, 2015, 02:49:46 PM
Hello! Found this amazing comic some time ago and as I was creating my forum profile I noticed there was no Slovak flag. 99.9% sure I'm the only one that would need it, but in any case, would the o mighty forum Thors add one please? Thank you!
P.S. Tried using :slovakia: :slovakrepublic: and :sk: nothing works. If it's already on the forum, under what can I find it? Or can I just use the image/link in my signature that I posted here? Thanks.

(Possibility? From Humons SatW (http://satwcomic.com/flags/sk.gif) )
I tried adding it in, but the site is giving me a 500 error when I try to upload it. 
I'll try again later, and see if I can get it uploaded then.  I'm using :slovakia: as the flag code.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: AwsomelyNotAwsome on January 20, 2015, 03:05:44 PM
I tried adding it in, but the site is giving me a 500 error when I try to upload it. 
I'll try again later, and see if I can get it uploaded then.  I'm using :slovakia: as the flag code.

Ah thank you for the quick reply, will use the :slovakia: in signature. Great support on this forum! 11/10 -IGN
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FinnishViking on January 21, 2015, 11:03:45 AM
I noticed when i was replying to one of the pages that i seemingly couldn't link a video in a fashion that a youtube player is displayed at the page itself.

Is this even possible? If not i think it could be a worthy prospect to look in to if you guys have the time and patience.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on January 21, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I noticed when i was replying to one of the pages that i seemingly couldn't link a video in a fashion that a youtube player is displayed at the page itself.

Is this even possible? If not i think it could be a worthy prospect to look in to if you guys have the time and patience.

You'd have to use BBCode embedding code instead of HTML to begin with, and youtube doesn't provide thhat... Hushpiper did find an alternative, but I tried that and it did... nothing.

Might something to do with the site's hosting.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on January 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
The forum would need a mod to embed video players. There is one for downloadHERE (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/?mod=2681).

Disclaimer: I have no idea if the mod is stable or safe. Use at your own peril!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on January 21, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
The forum would need a mod to embed video players. There is one for downloadHERE (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/?mod=2681).

Disclaimer: I have no idea if the mod is stable or safe. Use at your own peril!
Yep!  Known about that one for a while, just been hesitant to install it because I'm afraid of messing something up.  I'll look into it next week when I have some time after MAGFest. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FinnishViking on January 21, 2015, 02:50:41 PM
Yep!  Known about that one for a while, just been hesitant to install it because I'm afraid of messing something up.  I'll look into it next week when I have some time after MAGFest.

Well let's hope it works since it would be quite a bit easir to give out songs and videos in a way that doesn't require downloading a new page.

And if anything gets broken i think most people will understand and forgive any missed hours otherwise spent posting here  :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on January 23, 2015, 12:52:52 AM
Hello, all!

Forum-Thor Eich has granted my prayers and invested me with Skald powers to arrange forum content.  I can now:
* Split threads into new topics (even non-contiguous posts)
* Name new threads resulting from thread-splitting
* Merge threads (which will be named/dated after the oldest post of both threads)
* Move threads to different boards.

I can't:
* Change or delete anyone's individual post
* Delete, lock, or unlock threads
* See or deal with anyone's PMs
* Do major fixes -- the kind Eich, hushpiper, and JoB have dealt with. 

Over the next few days, I'll be working to consolidate topics, eliminate duplicate threads, or create new threads for emerging topics.  But before I act, I'll do my best to notify the original thread creators and give them the right of refusal or to name the newly split-off thread. 

Please go on posting requests to this thread.  But also feel free to PM me if you have questions or want me to undo a change. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FinnishViking on January 23, 2015, 03:38:08 AM
Hello, all!

Forum-Thor Eich has granted my prayers and invested me with Skald powers to arrange forum content.  I can now:
* Split threads into new topics (even non-contiguous posts)
* Name new threads resulting from thread-splitting
* Merge threads (which will be named/dated after the oldest post of both threads)
* Move threads to different boards.

I can't:
* Change or delete anyone's individual post
* Delete, lock, or unlock threads
* See or deal with anyone's PMs
* Do major fixes -- the kind Eich, hushpiper, and JoB have dealt with. 

Over the next few days, I'll be working to consolidate topics, eliminate duplicate threads, or create new threads for emerging topics.  But before I act, I'll do my best to notify the original thread creators and give them the right of refusal or to name the newly split-off thread. 

Please go on posting requests to this thread.  But also feel free to PM me if you have questions or want me to undo a change.

i eagarly await for the new changes you will be making and the few first ones seem to be only positive in nature so keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on January 23, 2015, 09:16:06 AM
I'm not sure I understand why play by post was split. Are we going to have multiple play threads going now?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on January 23, 2015, 11:08:58 AM
I'm not sure I understand why play by post was split. Are we going to have multiple play threads going now?
Ditto! Is there a limit on how long threads can get? I know on other forums I've been, a thread sometimes reaches its max # of posts and a new one is made to continue it... So I assume that's what happened but it looks like they're BOTH still getting posted in?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on January 23, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
It might be wise to lock the older threads and/or have the players create a new thread when they start with new rules. Anyway, such threads are doomed to become huge, since they are just the logfile of a chatbox....
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on January 23, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
(whoops, deleted thos post by accident)
Ditto! Is there a limit on how long threads can get? I know on other forums I've been, a thread sometimes reaches its max # of posts and a new one is made to continue it... So I assume that's what happened but it looks like they're BOTH still getting posted in?

The post in the old thread was just Sunflower saying that she split it, I believe. I understand why there's a 'current' thread - I think because it makes it easier for newcomers to understand, and not have to go through all the pages to het to the current game rules.
I don't understand, though, why there are three threads.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on January 23, 2015, 01:42:59 PM
The post in the old thread was just Sunflower saying that she split it, I believe.
Yep.

Quote
I understand why there's a 'current' thread - I think because it makes it easier for newcomers to understand, and not have to go through all the pages to get to the current game rules.
I don't understand, though, why there are three threads.

Um... I was just reveling in my new thread-splitting powers...  :-[
(Also, *later* I learned from reading the SMF documentation that for faster performance they recommend to keep threads at no more than about 2,000 posts -- maybe under 1,000 if the site is slow to load.  But I can't claim I knew that at the time.)

When the Play By Post thread was created, I don't think anyone realized how massively popular it would become.  (I didn't, anyhow.)

Now that we do know, those of you who are active in Play By Post might want to set some ground rules about when to create new threads, and whether to lock old ones.  (Meanwhile, I need to look more into how thread-locking works -- not sure I can do that.)

Personally, I'd like to see only one game thread open at a time -- but make the others still *viewable* because some of the answers were so clever. 
Also, wasn't one of the games a collaborative fiction?  I personally think that should be saved for posterity even if most old game responses aren't. 

Regardless of my opinions, the wishes of active PBP participants should prevail.

I'll also post a condensed version of this notice in PBP.  Meanwhile, thanks for being good sports!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on January 23, 2015, 01:46:33 PM
Yep.

Um... I was just reveling in my new thread-splitting powers...  :-[
(Also, *later* I learned from reading the SMF documentation that for faster performance they recommend to keep threads at no more than about 2,000 posts -- maybe under 1,000 if the site is slow to load.  But I can't claim I knew that at the time.)

When the Play By Post thread was created, I don't think anyone realized how massively popular it would become.  (I didn't, anyhow.)

Now that we do know, those of you who are active in Play By Post might want to set some ground rules about when to create new threads, and whether to lock old ones.  (Meanwhile, I need to look more into how thread-locking works -- not sure I can do that.)

Personally, I'd like to see only one game thread open at a time -- but make the others still *viewable* because some of the answers were so clever. 
Also, wasn't one of the games a collaborative fiction?  I personally think that should be saved for posterity even if most old game responses aren't. 

Regardless of my opinions, the wishes of active PBP participants should prevail.

I'll also post a condensed version of this notice in PBP.  Meanwhile, thanks for being good sports!
Alright, but I suggest old threads are closed. That way people can view them and we won't have greenhorns coming in and frankensteining old play by post threads because they didn't know they were defunct.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on January 23, 2015, 05:12:50 PM
If I may... I suggest a board for play-by-posts. The older games go there and are locked, or maybe left open. They are worth keeping, I believe (well, most of them), and some like the acronym game or the last letter game may even be revived? Other stuff like the roleplay, though, I think has to be closed - that really needs no Frankesteining.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on January 23, 2015, 05:24:13 PM
If I may... I suggest a board for play-by-posts. The older games go there and are locked, or maybe left open. They are worth keeping, I believe (well, most of them), and some like the acronym game or the last letter game may even be revived? Other stuff like the roleplay, though, I think has to be closed - that really needs no Frankesteining.
I think Eich as ruled out any new boards (and if he did add one I would prefer a creative content board).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nimphy on January 25, 2015, 03:53:52 AM
Hmmm. I've been seeing the winking smiley as a Mexican flag, and what should be the Russian flag as said smiley.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on February 05, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
Can we get a language flag for Arabic?  (We recently got a member who speaks it.)
Saudi Arabia's flag might be a good choice, since it *is* a selection of Arabic on a green background.  Otherwise, the Egyptian flag, since (IIUC) Egyptian Arabic = the most commonly taught dialect. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on February 05, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
It's still giving me errors when I try to upload a new smiley.  Tried out some different configurations and pictures, and it always gave me the same problem.
"The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request."
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Silenter on February 10, 2015, 05:17:22 PM
I'm not sure where this would belong, since it's probably been discussed already, but I'm not sure if incorporating the other languages like Japanese, Korean, and Chinese for a site is easy. I once posted something with Korean text, but, of course, came out as gibberish, so I had to had the romanization of it and put it there.

I don't mind waiting for any add-ons to the site, although I'm curious to see if something like that takes a long time or not.

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on February 11, 2015, 12:45:53 PM
Our heroic admin, Eich, has been trying for a while to install Cyrillic -- but no luck.
(Actually UTF-8, which would allow the entirety of Unicode including Cyrillic and CJK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_%28Unicode%29#Basic_Multilingual_Plane), but also Khmer, various Indic and Indonesian scripts, Arabic, Linear A and B, Cuneiform, KLI pIqaD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_alphabets#ConScript_Unicode_Registry), ...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on February 14, 2015, 08:10:57 PM
Is it possible for the forum to insert replies to specific posts immediately after the post, rather than append them to the end?  Or is there a good reason for not doing so that I am overlooking?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on February 14, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Is it possible for the forum to insert replies to specific posts immediately after the post, rather than append them to the end?  Or is there a good reason for not doing so that I am overlooking?

No, regrettably, I don't think there is a way to insert replies to immediately follow the original post.  (Eich, our Archon, may have some ideas, though.)

AFAIK, the only way to denote "reply" is to quote at least some of the original post.  As I have done.


Please don't let this discourage you from posting or replying, though!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on February 14, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
Is it possible for the forum to insert replies to specific posts immediately after the post, rather than append them to the end?  Or is there a good reason for not doing so that I am overlooking?

Well as for cons, I imagine it wouldn't mesh well with the "view new posts" feature because if you could reply to any post on the thread, the posts wouldn't necessarily be consecutive.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on February 16, 2015, 02:49:02 AM
Perhaps This Post and others following it (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=87.msg20001#msg20001) should be moved from the Mikkel development thread to the Sigrun development thread.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on February 16, 2015, 02:53:22 AM
Thanks - no hurry!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on February 22, 2015, 10:39:31 PM
So this post in the comments on pg 273:
Quote from: Amity
Maybe.. I don't know. A *small* group of general top level threads? So that you know where to start if you're going exploring?

* Announcements
* Canon / Creator's Commentary / Known Facts
* Gossip / Speculation
* Real World Background
* Fan Art
* Fan Writing
* Exuberant Praise
* Grumpy Criticism
sparked a thought in my all-too-ignorant brain: Might it be possible to create thread tags in the categories above, as certain thread titles can be somewhat… non-indicative?

If it isn't possible for [ insert highly technical reason of which I am ignorant here ], then it isn't, but I thought it would be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on February 23, 2015, 12:34:23 AM
So this post in the comments on pg 273:sparked a thought in my all-too-ignorant brain: Might it be possible to create thread tags in the categories above, as certain thread titles can be somewhat… non-indicative?

If it isn't possible for [ insert highly technical reason of which I am ignorant here ], then it isn't, but I thought it would be worth looking into.

I had a "Forum Index" thread that was intended for that exact purpose, but I'm currently unable to update it since anything with more than 2 or 3 links appears to be marked as spam and won't get submitted...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on February 23, 2015, 01:36:00 AM
I had a "Forum Index" thread that was intended for that exact purpose, but I'm currently unable to update it since anything with more than 2 or 3 links appears to be marked as spam and won't get submitted...
Ummmmmmmmmmm… Not what I meant.

On some other BBs I've lurked upon, the thread name is followed by what's called a "tag", a short description categorizing the thread's subject/contents. Like on a gamer forum, one tag would be "Gamer Tales", while another would be "Player Help", and so on.

Now, if that option is precluded for our forum for technical or financial reasons, I understand, as I said.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on February 23, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
On some other BBs I've lurked upon, the thread name is followed by what's called a "tag", a short description categorizing the thread's subject/contents. Like on a gamer forum, one tag would be "Gamer Tales", while another would be "Player Help", and so on.


That seems good to me.  How much work do you think it would take to tag the various threads? 

One other solution might be to group the threads into folders (along the lines of Amity's categories) within the 5 main boards.  But unlike LooNEY, I don't have prior experience with BBs, so I don't know how feasible that would be. 

Regardless, I'm in favor of any system that makes our content more accessible to the average reader.   If we come to a consensus, I'll put in whatever time I can to help implement it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on February 23, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
I just looked, and there is a mod that adds tagging for topics to the SMF forum so that could be used - if the added featureset wouldn't drag the forum down into perma-crash!

One wouldn't have to tag ALL threads, to start with. Make the system available and users can tag their own threads when they start them, and mods could possibly spend a few minutes whenever they can looking at old threads and tagging particularly interesting ones.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on February 23, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
One wouldn't have to tag ALL threads, to start with. Make the system available and users can tag their own threads when they start them, and mods could possibly spend a few minutes whenever they can looking at old threads and tagging particularly interesting ones.
Will the tagging mod be able to account for the differences in syntax? Like, if someone tags a thread "fan art" and another person writes "fanart", will the system be able to consolidate those? We would also need to come up with a list of agreed-upon tags that everyone can use, otherwise it won't really solve anything if people tag the same things with different words...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on February 23, 2015, 09:36:53 PM
I didn't go into it that deeply. I will do, when time permits.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on February 26, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
I guess that goes here

I have to admit that, for me, this is one of the most jarring aspects of the forum: there is no upvote button.

not an urgent thing at all, but giving points (cookie-points?) to people is indeed nice
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on March 05, 2015, 11:08:01 AM
IIUC Eich already has a set of national flags available from famfamfam, just didn't install them all right away. I grabbed the same *.zip for potential use, and there seems to be an ie.gif and an ie.png included ... ?

As I am doing some progress with kurmanci-kurdish I wonder whether this magic flag device includes a kurdish flag?
Flag can be seen here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Kurdistan). If not I will try and do a search for a free picture resource.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on March 05, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
Will the tagging mod be able to account for the differences in syntax? Like, if someone tags a thread "fan art" and another person writes "fanart", will the system be able to consolidate those? We would also need to come up with a list of agreed-upon tags that everyone can use, otherwise it won't really solve anything if people tag the same things with different words...

In my experience, no.  Tag systems will not compensate for syntax differences if the tags are set by the user creating the thread.  However if there is a set list of tags to choose from then it is a different matter.

One other solution might be to group the threads into folders (along the lines of Amity's categories) within the 5 main boards.  But unlike LooNEY, I don't have prior experience with BBs, so I don't know how feasible that would be. 

Having sub-(or child) boards is pretty common, so I don't imagine it would be a problem to implement.  For example the Language board could have sub-boards for the most commonly discussed languages, while the main board is for those with less concentrated focus.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on March 05, 2015, 12:01:33 PM
As I am doing some progress with kurmanci-kurdish I wonder whether this magic flag device includes a kurdish flag?
Not as far as I can see, but the version on Wiki[mp]edia is marked as being in the public domain ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on March 09, 2015, 01:38:06 PM
so if I shrink it to this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/35/20091011225157!Flag_of_Kurdistan.svg) might that work? though it does not look too nice.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/35/20091011225157!Flag_of_Kurdistan.svg)  looks better
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on March 09, 2015, 01:46:47 PM
Actually I meant to suggest that Eich should copy it from Wiki* to the forum server (and then work the magic to label it an emoticon and assign some :code: to it).

I don't have the slightest whether it's a good idea to do that before the server switch, though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on March 11, 2015, 06:41:11 AM
Two threads seem analogous, as kex noticed :
some ssss merc ideas (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=212.0)
T-shirts SSSS (http://ssssforum.pcriot.com/index.php?topic=157.0)

Possible merger?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on March 11, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
I guess that goes here

not an urgent thing at all, but giving points (cookie-points?) to people is indeed nice

Never been a fan of points based systems on forums, I think it distracts from the topic of discussion, plus it almost inevitably ends up being a competition over who has the most points, which results in people complaining that a post they made didn't get enough points as they think it deserved and so on...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on March 11, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
Agreed. Disqus comments get buried, counters get reset, possible quarrels get forgotten as soon as a new page replaces the previous one. It's pretty difficult to find who said what one week ago. On the other hand, a forum has a 'deeper' memory. It's all too easy to have things turn sour (speaking from experience :().
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on March 11, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
mmh yes, didn't think of that.
no points then :) or should I say... point granted  8) (I tried to make a punny face with special chars, but forgot they don't work yet)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on March 11, 2015, 01:42:51 PM
While I don't think points are necessarily a good idea, I do like being able to upvote or, to borrow AO3 terminology, give "kudos" to a post. Sometimes you don't really have anything you want to reply with but you still want to let the author know you liked it and/or agree with what they're saying.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on March 11, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
I understand this POV, too.
Thinking of it, I would say that Kudos/upvotes may make sense when attached to a post, as you say it, and not to a forumer. This implies that there should not a cumulated counter per forumer, in order to prevent this from turning into some trolling-prone beauty contest.
The risk is low with our present delightful community, but 'beauty contests' or 'popularity contests' are a sure way to spoil the mood - one or two dumb heads are enough for this. It was very wise from Eich to devise funny names for the post quantity based titles, rather than titles suggesting some kind of hierarchy.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on March 11, 2015, 04:18:31 PM
It was very wise from Eich to devise funny names for the post quantity based titles, rather than titles suggesting some kind of hierarchy.

Apart from the "Ruler of a Derelict Airport" part :P  Not that I have any complaints with the forum titles.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on March 11, 2015, 05:19:37 PM
Apart from the "Ruler of a Derelict Airport" part :P  Not that I have any complaints with the forum titles.

I could argue that since the airport is derelict, then the title is basically meaningless...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: FrogEater on March 11, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
That's it! It requires a really empty head to take these titles seriously :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on March 12, 2015, 05:38:09 AM
I could argue that since the airport is derelict, then the title is basically meaningless...

I'd rather have a derelict airport than no airport.  In fact I think I might enjoy a derelict one more, it would be so cool :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on March 12, 2015, 07:10:56 AM
I could argue that since the airport is derelict, then the title is basically meaningless...
even derelict, it's a pretty large place you can do things in ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on March 12, 2015, 08:09:40 AM
sorry for double post, but: we have 2 introduction threads. Maybe we should merge them, or lock one of them?
(edit: by "we" I mean those whose powers may suffice for the task)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on March 12, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
sorry for double post, but: we have 2 introduction threads. Maybe we should merge them, or lock one of them?
(edit: by "we" I mean those whose powers may suffice for the task)

You bring up a good point.  But the intro threads have slightly different purposes, which is why I think we could justify them both.  The *Language Board* intros are for people to introduce themselves in all the languages they speak (or are learning).  Those seem pretty popular despite the ongoing use of the plain-vanilla Introduction thread. 

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on March 12, 2015, 01:07:26 PM
You bring up a good point.  But the intro threads have slightly different purposes, which is why I think we could justify them both.  The *Language Board* intros are for people to introduce themselves in all the languages they speak (or are learning).  Those seem pretty popular despite the ongoing use of the plain-vanilla Introduction thread. 

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
The issue has already been settled in the "plain-vanilla Introduction thread".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on March 12, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
You bring up a good point.  But the intro threads have slightly different purposes, which is why I think we could justify them both.  The *Language Board* intros are for people to introduce themselves in all the languages they speak (or are learning).  Those seem pretty popular despite the ongoing use of the plain-vanilla Introduction thread. 

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
You could just re-name the Language board one, maybe something like... "Multi-lingual introduction thread!"
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on March 13, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Frenci asked for a flag that reflects the Slovenian language. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Slovenia
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on March 14, 2015, 10:02:26 PM
Haiz asked for a Czech flag.  I thought we had one already, but I didn't find one in a very quick forum serch.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 14, 2015, 02:23:33 PM
petition to remove the ??? smiley because I yearn to write long lines of question marks
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 14, 2015, 02:45:27 PM
petition to remove the ??? smiley because I yearn to write long lines of question marks

THIS
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fen Shen on April 14, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
But the smiley itself is cute and important... I like its expression very much. Would it be possible to change the code that belongs to the smiley so that long rows of ?? become possible, but the icon itself can still be used somehow?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 14, 2015, 05:15:00 PM
Perhaps change it from three question marks to :? ?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 14, 2015, 05:16:23 PM
It is, but, like my other attempts at editing smileys, the host refuses to allow me. 
I'll talk with Hush and see where we are on moving to the new server, cause once we're there, I can change it in a jiffy.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on April 14, 2015, 06:30:36 PM
Counter petition to avoid long lines of question marks :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 14, 2015, 06:46:47 PM
Counter petition to avoid long lines of question marks :P
I promise I won't make too long lines!! I just. really need. at least three

not being able to put more than two together feels like a cage
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 14, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Counter petition to avoid long lines of question marks :P

Ehe, yeah, I mainly use large amounts of question marks in PMs to people who also use large amounts of question marks. I definitely wouldn't do, say, a three-meter block of text in response to attempts to figure out what the heck is happening with Lalli's collar, even if it is appropriate :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on April 14, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
I promise I won't make too long lines!! I just. really need. at least three
But what for??????????????
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Cancvas on April 15, 2015, 01:43:31 AM
Maybe start a thread for each page in SSSS? Just to continue enything thats going on, now that Disqus comments are time limited. Any interesting bits regarding that page, or not, could be transferred to that thread, and also make comments, issues ect. easier to backtrack.

Just a idea, I've got nonexistent experience in managing forum or any spontaneuosly generating data, it may be bad one.

-C
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on April 15, 2015, 02:58:00 AM
Counter petition to avoid long lines of question marks :P

Just for posterity, I am marking that I wholeheartedly support this counter petition.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on April 15, 2015, 05:13:32 AM
Maybe start a thread for each page in SSSS? Just to continue enything thats going on, now that Disqus comments are time limited. Any interesting bits regarding that page, or not, could be transferred to that thread, and also make comments, issues ect. easier to backtrack.

Just a idea, I've got nonexistent experience in managing forum or any spontaneuosly generating data, it may be bad one.

Given the number of pages, that could become unwieldy very quickly.  Perhaps a larger forum with more staff could handle that, but I'm guessing it would be problematic at our current stage.  As an aside, if this idea was implemented it would probably be best to create a separate sub-board purely for those threads.

Also a question, does youtube embedding not work as I tried embedding a video last night and it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 15, 2015, 07:15:36 AM
But what for??????????????
HOW DID YOU DO TH- oh i see now. I see.

idk the smileys are just cramping my style
like, okay, so my style happens to be annoying overuse of punctuation, bUT

(and i agree with curry that it's mostly for messaging purposes tbh)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 15, 2015, 08:36:18 AM
Personally, I'd like to be able to put 3 in a row, cause it conveys a really bewildered feel. Anything more feels excessive and silly to me.  Either way, JoB's a clever fella with a good workaround.  I'll still update the smiley when we move though.

As for archiving every page... Noooooo.  We tried page-by-page threads at the beginning, and it immediately failed.  The SSSS board already has a lot of dead threads that no one's using, and threads like that are condemned to die as soon as the next page comes out.  The forum is meant for more long lasting discussion.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on April 16, 2015, 11:18:16 AM

Also a question, does youtube embedding not work as I tried embedding a video last night and it wouldn't work.

Yeah, I played around with this a few months back and it doesn't seem to be a feature that SMF allows - though there might be a mod you can install? Could be something to keep in mind for the next version of the forum, but personally my connection is rather slow so I'd rather not have embedded videos...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on April 20, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
I guess the three missing letters of the turkish alphabet (special s,i,g) will not be included before the server moves? Propper grammar is quite tricky without them :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Tap10lan on April 26, 2015, 01:16:02 PM
Flags for the ex-Yugoslavia countries?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on April 27, 2015, 02:03:52 PM
Flags for the ex-Yugoslavia countries?

Yep, I was looking through the language threads and there are specific requests for the Serbian and Macedonian flags.  (I know most linguists consider Serbo-Croatian a single language, and we do already have a Croatian flag -- but *politically* the countries are certainly very different!)

On that same note, we have a request for the Taiwan flag.  Linguistically, I don't know if the requester wants it for the Taiwan dialect of Chinese (if there is one -- I gather they officially use Mandarin) or the Taiwanese native language.

The other flag request is for Catalonia/Catalan language. 

Meanwhile, I've seen occasional requests for Sindarin Elvish, Quenya, Vulcan, and Klingon.  Are there flags for constructed languages?  How about Esperanto?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on April 27, 2015, 02:58:46 PM
Meanwhile, I've seen occasional requests for Sindarin Elvish, Quenya, Vulcan, and Klingon.  Are there flags for constructed languages?  How about Esperanto?
Esperanto, being in real-world use, does have symbols, including the "green star" flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_symbols). Klingon also has a flag, albeit a deliberately unsettling one (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Klingon_Empire_Flag.svg). Vulcan is a member of the Federation most of the storytime, so the Federation's flag (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Federation) essentially snarfed up all the screentime that a Vulcan flag could have gotten. ;)

I'm not under the impression that Tolkien was very much into graphics of in-story paraphernalia, much less flags. IIRC the movies preferred pennants to boot ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 29, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
So, this is an odd idea, but I thought I'd float it by you guys:

I'd kinda like to mod the forum such that, instead of asking for your gender in your profile and when you sign up, you instead select which pronouns you'd like to be referred to by. It'd be nice for those minnions who are genderqueer/trans and those who just don't feel like disclosing their gender, by sidestepping the whole "but what gender ARE you?" question and getting right to the question that actually matters: "how do we refer to you?". The question of how to refer to people has been a big one from the start--there's a couple established forumgoers that many people still don't know how to refer to cough-Fim-cough--and it'd also be useful if we could display that underneath people's avatars so there's a handy reference while posting.

Such a mod does not exist at present afaik, but there are some that are similar which simply add new genders, like this one: http://www.animeneko.net/projects/smf/ I've gotten comfortable enough with the forum's innards at this point that it seems doable on the face of it, at least, and would be fun to play with. I just wanna know if you guys think it'd be a good fit for this community.

Edit: I can totes type. Yah.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 29, 2015, 04:35:59 PM
There's always signatures or personal text for people who want to specify themselves as something else, or remain ambiguous.  There should also be an "other" option, when signing up, right?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 29, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
Not exactly--I was looking at the profiles, and it's either male, female or blank.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 29, 2015, 04:51:47 PM
Adding an "other" option should be the simplest fix, then, if people want more than a blank.  And I'm sure there are some who would like the option.  More can be added if necessary; I'm not really sure what else someone would want besides that. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on April 29, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
I'd kinda like to mod the forum such that, instead of asking for your gender in your profile and when you sign up, you instead select which pronouns you'd like to be referred to by. It'd be nice for those minnions who are genderqueer/trans and those who just don't feel like disclosing their gender, by sidestepping the whole "but what gender ARE you?" question and getting right to the question that actually matters: "how do we refer to you?".

The question of how to refer to people has been a big one from the start--there's a couple established forumgoers that many people still don't know how to refer to cough-Fim-cough--and it'd also be useful if we could display that underneath people's avatars so there's a handy reference while posting.

Such a mod does not exist at present afaik, but there are some that are similar which simply add new genders, like this one: http://www.animeneko.net/projects/smf/ I've gotten comfortable enough with the forum's innards at this point that it seems doable on the face of it, at least, and would be fun to play with. I just wanna know if you guys think it'd be a good fit for this community.

I like the idea.  I'm 100% comfortable with a female gender and set of pronouns, but I can think of several members off the top of my head who don't fit the existing categories.  Moreover, there are multiple possibilities of what an "other" might want to be called.  Haiz' "ze/hir" is one example, but I imagine some would prefer "they" to more novel terms. 

As long as it doesn't remove any existing options, it sounds good to me, at least as an experiment.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 29, 2015, 05:03:12 PM
Moreover, there are multiple possibilities of what an "other" might want to be called.  Haiz' "ze/hir" is one example, but I imagine some would prefer "they" to more novel terms. 

I am all for this! My side-text isn't actually sarcastic at all (I don't know if that was obvious or not) and I do go with they/them because I have no idea how to pronounce ze/hir hahaha oops
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on April 29, 2015, 05:10:14 PM
Can we remove the word "temporary" from the "Here's a Link to the Comic" above?

Also, Eich, how would you feel about editing your initial post on "Welcome to the Language Board (Name to be Changed Later)" to remove the stuff in parentheses and the discussion about *if* we want to keep it?  It seems clear that languages are vastly popular here (no surprise, given our smart, multicultural, and rather quirky population).  https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=148.msg5888#msg5888

Neither of these are important -- just minor housekeeping details. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 29, 2015, 05:10:52 PM
I like the idea.  I'm 100% comfortable with a female gender and set of pronouns, but I can think of several members off the top of my head who don't fit the existing categories.  Moreover, there are multiple possibilities of what an "other" might want to be called.  Haiz' "ze/hir" is one example, but I imagine some would prefer "they" to more novel terms. 

As long as it doesn't remove any existing options, it sounds good to me, at least as an experiment.

That was more or less my thought: allow people to state exactly what it is they wanna be called--and there's lots of pronoun sets out there!--without having to make any statement as to what they actually identify as unless they want to. So Haiz would be one example, in terms of having a specific set of pronouns ze likes; while people who are actually cisgendered but don't want to disclose their gender on the internet (like me, in many communities) might decide they want us to call them by they/them/etc. Just a way of making things a little more welcoming, perhaps?

(And yeah, this most likely wouldn't take away the existing gender feature, just rename it and add some things.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 29, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
Been meaning to do that for a while, actually. 
I'll go ahead and do it. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 29, 2015, 05:13:38 PM
Been meaning to do that for a while, actually. 
I'll go ahead and do it.

Why was that there to begin with, actually? I was eyeing it every time I put a news announcement on there, but didn't wanna touch it in case it was important or summat.

BTW Eich, I actually edited your Helpful Information (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0) post where it talks about resetting passwords, since email is working now. It was an in-passing thing, meant to tell you about it. Change the wording if you like :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on April 29, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Why was that there to begin with, actually? I was eyeing it every time I put a news announcement on there, but didn't wanna touch it in case it was important or summat.
I was going to add a button on the hotbar, next to Home or something.  Found a little guide to help me out, too, just forgot and put it off. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 29, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
ohhhhhhhhhh hello pronoun/gender discussion i'm already sorta involved in

I never really meant to make such a big deal outta my gender but it happened anyway (good job haiz), but I'm really really happy to see you're all so understanding and even willing to do these things you were talking about just now!!! i feel like such an inconvienence but it's not just me so yeah THAT IS GREAT. i'm just being the loudest i guess

i think having they/them set somewhere for people who use these pronouns/wish to stay ambiguous is a good idea?

i must confess i don't really know how 'ze' is supposed to be pronounced, ALAS i'm not an english native speaker, and if you should ever speak about me in real life (gasps) feel free to use they/them or it/its!
(I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING COMPLICATED PRONOUNS but if it makes you feel better i used to have ey/em and changed it to ze/hir which are a little more mainstream)

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 29, 2015, 06:58:46 PM
I never really meant to make such a big deal outta my gender but it happened anyway (good job haiz), but I'm really really happy to see you're all so understanding and even willing to do these things you were talking about just now!!! i feel like such an inconvienence but it's not just me so yeah THAT IS GREAT. i'm just being the loudest i guess

See, that there is something I would be a bit worried about if we were to do this (and part of why I bring the whole idea up). I think the community's always been very quietly, casually queer friendly, which is exactly how I like it, and I wouldn't want to make anybody's gender or pronouns into a big deal. The last thing I would want is for it to make things political, for example. I would prefer it be something that just makes communication a bit easier, rather than something that becomes a topic of discussion in its own right, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 29, 2015, 07:10:50 PM
See, that there is something I would be a bit worried about if we were to do this (and part of why I bring the whole idea up). I think the community's always been very quietly, casually queer friendly, which is exactly how I like it, and I wouldn't want to make anybody's gender or pronouns into a big deal. The last thing I would want is for it to make things political, for example. I would prefer it be something that just makes communication a bit easier, rather than something that becomes a topic of discussion in its own right, if that makes sense.

yeah I totally get it, that's how I like it too!! I definitely wouldn't want this place to, say, turn into tumblr (which is ironic, considering that if anyone is turning this place into tumblr it's me)...... I've really tried to keep lowkey enough lest it turn into politics (it's not politics, it's my liiifeeee), but if I ever go overboard feel free to send me a message to tone things down a bit!!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 29, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
I definitely don't want to be yelling about it either? I actually have a ton of anxiety about being out most of the time, so. It'll most likely be whispering from the rooftops from me ahahahaha

"im not a girlllll im so sorry" -literally me
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 30, 2015, 12:59:35 AM
Oh no, I don't mean it like that! I just mean that it could be easy to blow up, and I'd hate for you guys to become targets or feel unwelcome. And, of course, I don't want others to become uncomfortable or feel unwelcome either. That's why I'd like to take the pulse of the community, so to speak, and see what everyone thinks. If you feel like it would put you in the spotlight too much, or if it seems like it'll bring up controversy, I'll code it but won't put it on the site. No pressure on anybody here. :)

On another subject--I'm playing around with the theme on a test site! It's in maintenance mode, so you'll have to register to see the whole thing. Check it out:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on April 30, 2015, 01:05:33 AM
On another subject--I'm playing around with the theme on a test site! Check it out:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php
I clicked on the link and got a notice "Not ready yet!" and an Admin login slot.  Should we log in there, or just wait till more is available?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 30, 2015, 01:09:52 AM
I clicked on the link and got a notice "Not ready yet!" and an Admin login slot.  Should we log in there, or just wait till more is available?

Register, then log in--it's gonna be my long-term Place For Fiddling, so I wanted to bar out spammers etc from the beginning. I started with a clean database, so users/posts/etc haven't been pulled over from this forum.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 30, 2015, 02:28:21 AM
I definitely don't want to be yelling about it either? I actually have a ton of anxiety about being out most of the time, so. It'll most likely be whispering from the rooftops from me ahahahaha

"im not a girlllll im so sorry" -literally me
:c :c :c
in my case it's a lot more "I should try to keep lowkey about this so i don't seem obnoxious or make people uncomfortable" but i never learnt how to be closeted or even quiet about it,, i make it too relevant too often, i post too many pictures of myself, and..... like..... i tried to be lowkey irl too, it just DIDN'T WORK, it doesn't matter if i literally wear a shirt saying "not a girl" or have someone introduce my pronouns on stage in front of hundreds of people, i STILL GOTTA CORRECT THEM ALL THE TIME
so yeah obnoxiously loud it is

That's why I'd like to take the pulse of the community, so to speak, and see what everyone thinks. If you feel like it would put you in the spotlight too much, or if it seems like it'll bring up controversy, I'll code it but won't put it on the site. No pressure on anybody here. :)
nooo don't worry, do the thing!! I'm always hogging the spotlight on my own anyway because i'm absolutely hopeless. do the thing

i can't register on the test site, but from the little i can see it looks really neat!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Cancvas on April 30, 2015, 04:28:25 AM
Alphabetical sorting / subsections to member list ? Not that necessary, but it would be a convenience feature.

-C
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 30, 2015, 04:31:10 AM
Alphabetical sorting / subsections to member list ? Not that necessary, but it would be a convenience feature.

-C
you can change the sorting by clicking on the various categories, like username, position, number of posts, date registered..... but the position clicking is weird
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on April 30, 2015, 06:30:17 AM
Seems like unnecessary faff to me.  Either people will get to know what people prefer to be called and use such accordingly or they will stick to using the words they prefer regardless of what other members want.  Personally I would be fine with everyone being referred to as "it/they".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 30, 2015, 06:57:16 AM
Personally I would be fine with everyone being referred to as "it/they".

I doubt most people would like to be called "it", though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on April 30, 2015, 07:53:10 AM
Eh, wouldn't bother me.  My point was more that this seems really unnecessary. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on April 30, 2015, 08:00:35 AM
Eh, wouldn't bother me.  My point was more that this seems really unnecessary.
Well, I for one have gotten several messages about my gender and how I want to be referred to...... but I guess putting my pronouns in my title works pretty well too? since I know sending PMs to people about these kinda things can be pretty intimidating
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on April 30, 2015, 12:15:14 PM
i can't register on the test site, but from the little i can see it looks really neat!

Ack, you're right, my bad. Forgot people can't register when it's in maintenance mode. Try it now. :)

ETA: I know a redesign is something people have been discussing for a while, and this is just my shot at it after fiddling for an evening. Would appreciate feedback or suggestions on anything that's confusing, not as usable, or just doesn't look good.

Alphabetical sorting / subsections to member list ? Not that necessary, but it would be a convenience feature.

-C

What sort of thing did you have in mind? ATM you can choose how to sort the memberlist (username, number of posts, title, etc) and you can choose the starting letter of the username at the top right.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on April 30, 2015, 12:21:36 PM
hushpiper, it's looking great! I love the appearance and color scheme! :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on April 30, 2015, 12:34:17 PM

On another subject--I'm playing around with the theme on a test site! It's in maintenance mode, so you'll have to register to see the whole thing. Check it out:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

I like the color scheme! Looks great, Hush :D
Though I wonder if the background image would make it harder to load on phones/tablets? I know some people use those to access the forums...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on April 30, 2015, 02:13:02 PM
I like the color scheme! Looks great, Hush :D
Though I wonder if the background image would make it harder to load on phones/tablets? I know some people use those to access the forums...
I tried it on my smartphone, and the background doesn't appear at all, so I don't think that will be a problem (unless people are intending to access the forum specifically to see the background image? nah...). Otherwise it looks the same on my phone as it does on my computer (and it is a very pretty color scheme, indeed!).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 01, 2015, 10:01:10 AM
Test site looks pretty neat, but should the background image be larger?  I ask because for me there is a large section of grey space below the background image.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ryagami on May 01, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
Is there a chance to get a Serbian BBCode flag? I don't suppose there are many Serbs here, but it would be nice to have. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 07, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on May 07, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!
GASPS
it's beautiful
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 07, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!

Oooh, aah, that is pretty!  I like it!  I particularly like the link to Minna's Comics in the nav bar up top.  The whole thing really reflects Minna's very distinctive look and feel.

The only thing I don't care for is the underlying graphic on the page underneath the header.  I am easily distracted and I find that pattern distracting and slightly annoying.  (I like the just-plain-white background to our current postings.  But that's just me.)

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on May 07, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
The only thing I don't care for is the underlying graphic on the page underneath the header.  I am easily distracted and I find that pattern distracting and slightly annoying.  (I like the just-plain-white background to our current postings.  But that's just me.)

Same here, I'm not a big fan of the translucent-y stuff.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on May 07, 2015, 02:14:06 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!
Ohhh my gosh it's GORGEOUS
My only (tiny) dislike would be the serif font for the top menu buttons [Home/Help/Search etc] ... I know it's supposed to fit with the theme and stuff but those can be kind of hard to read occasionally
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 07, 2015, 02:20:57 PM
The only thing I don't care for is the underlying graphic on the page underneath the header.  I am easily distracted and I find that pattern distracting and slightly annoying.  (I like the just-plain-white background to our current postings.  But that's just me.)

Same here, I'm not a big fan of the translucent-y stuff.

Hmm, I like it myself, but I do see what you mean. Maybe make it somewhat less translucent? Somewhere between what it is now and what's on the top banner (which is very slightly translucent itself, if you look close), perhaps?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: BreezeLouise on May 07, 2015, 04:40:42 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!

Ooh, I like that a lot! I actually like the underlying image in particular, as well as the new header at the top.

My one complaint is that it's actually a little bright for me. That's mostly just personal preference, but I do feel like it's a little more disorienting after coming from this gray background. I'm sure that'll wear off after a while, though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Rabbit on May 07, 2015, 07:34:42 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!

*A*
It's gorgeous let's use it! Use iiiiit!

The underlying image is arguably The Thing of the whole layout, I'd be very sad to see that go as long as the bg of posts themselves remains solid white (as it is) for readability.

Like Breeze said it is maybe a little bright, but I have the same complaint about the new main site layout itself and might actually prefer this one because, thanks to said underlying image, it's less bright than the main site design.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: AuthorOfLight on May 07, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!

Wow, it's beautiful!

I personally like the background, but I can see how it could be a bit distracting to some people.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on May 07, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
It looks nice, but I am perversely bugged that I can't shift the overlying features to expose different parts of the background [WAS: water trolls (like Moomi-Pirhana)].  Would that be possible? 

Will it be the same theme all the time, or periodically changed? 

Would a translucency slider / preference be practical for individual users? 

Is Disqus-like comment organization possible with the Simple Machines engine? 

Just throwing out ignorant or curious questions, not *trying* to make life overly "interesting." 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on May 07, 2015, 10:00:50 PM
My two cents about it: I love it, I love all of it, can we start using it already?<3
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on May 07, 2015, 10:10:25 PM
I love it!  :'D  Also, I'm in love with the button to the comics. 
I only wish I knew how to help with this kind of thing so I could work on it.
Either way, I agree, I think it's good enough to start using now, and we can make adjustments when problems or complaints arise. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ann Marie on May 08, 2015, 04:41:07 AM
It's so pretty!  And the background image is maybe a little distracting but I like it anyway.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 08, 2015, 05:47:28 AM
Definitely approve of the look with the background image.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on May 08, 2015, 06:01:40 AM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!
"Ooh !" "Aah !" :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Viisikielinenkantele on May 08, 2015, 10:15:32 AM
With many thanks to Eriaror, we now have a very pretty theme! It's up on the beta site now for your discerning eyes:

http://dev.ssssforum.com/index.php

Suggestions, complaints, criticism and ooh's and aah's are all welcome, so let us know what you think!

Ohh, very pretty! I like it!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 08, 2015, 02:34:15 PM
I love it!  :'D  Also, I'm in love with the button to the comics. 
I only wish I knew how to help with this kind of thing so I could work on it.
Either way, I agree, I think it's good enough to start using now, and we can make adjustments when problems or complaints arise.

Thor has spoken! After making some small tweaks to it (for forward compatibility), the theme is now installed and set as default for the forum.

For those who don't like change, find the new theme too distracting, or otherwise want the old theme back: First off, do let us know! The theme can be tweaked, and we'll take any suggestions or requests under advisement. Second, you can change what theme you are personally using on the forum under Profile > Account Settings > Look and Layout > Current Theme > (change). You're totally free to switch back to the other theme if you feel the need.

It looks nice, but I am perversely bugged that I can't shift the overlying features to expose different parts of the background [WAS: water trolls (like Moomi-Pirhana)].  Would that be possible? 

Will it be the same theme all the time, or periodically changed? 

Would a translucency slider / preference be practical for individual users? 

Is Disqus-like comment organization possible with the Simple Machines engine? 

Just throwing out ignorant or curious questions, not *trying* to make life overly "interesting." 

To answer these one at a time:
 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on May 08, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
Can the mobile version maybe be tweaked a little? Specifically the top right corner, which looks like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/dAHhMDs.jpg)
(I'll probably change back to the other theme, but still)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 08, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
Can the mobile version maybe be tweaked a little? Specifically the top right corner, which looks like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/dAHhMDs.jpg)
(I'll probably change back to the other theme, but still)

It's actually more than just mobile doing that--it shows up jumbled on desktops too. We're looking at fixing that bug now!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Daéa Reina on May 08, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
The top right corner looks a little messy in the pc version as well...

It's actually more than just mobile doing that--it shows up jumbled on desktops too. We're looking at fixing that bug now!

Ok, it has already been said. Sorry. :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: urbicande on May 08, 2015, 02:44:49 PM

For those who don't like change, find the new theme too distracting, or otherwise want the old theme back: First off, do let us know! The theme can be tweaked, and we'll take any suggestions or requests under advisement. Second, you can change what theme you are personally using on the forum under Profile > Account Settings > Look and Layout > Current Theme > (change). You're totally free to switch back to the other theme if you feel the need.


The top right isn't looking all that good on my laptop.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/92b307569cbb9274005f26ede2b83e22/tumblr_no1o1wEBB71t7y48to1_540.jpg)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Rabbit on May 08, 2015, 02:54:05 PM
Could I ask for a few pixels more space between replies to make the thread less a complete wall of white so it'd be easier to tell posts apart? The way those spaces look now that I'm writing a reply is quite nice.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/j9tyCU.jpg)

^like on right

ETA: Also, personally I don't have a problem with it but the text in the dropdown menus is quite tiny, some members might appreciate a larger font especially since it's a serif :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: BreezeLouise on May 08, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
I feel like the background for quotes doesn't stand out quite as much as it should. That might just be a personal taste thing, though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: koalalou on May 08, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
The top right isn't looking all that good on my laptop.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/92b307569cbb9274005f26ede2b83e22/tumblr_no1o1wEBB71t7y48to1_540.jpg)

I've got the same thing going on--sorry I haven't taken my own screenshot of it, still trying to figure out how to work a Mac xP
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 08, 2015, 04:10:29 PM
I feel like the background for quotes doesn't stand out quite as much as it should. That might just be a personal taste thing, though.

I had a similar reaction.  Otherwise, a lovely theme!  I normally dislike *any* changes (just 'cuz I'm fussy), but I'm warming up to this one quite fast.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on May 08, 2015, 04:16:59 PM
I feel like the background for quotes doesn't stand out quite as much as it should. That might just be a personal taste thing, though.

I felt the same, although I changed back to the old theme so I've no place to complain.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 08, 2015, 04:39:15 PM
It seems like I did not consider avatar images, when I made that upper section... *facepalm*
However, I have now replicated the problem on my machine (wasn't that hard, a bug cannot really get more obvious...) and currently working on fixing it. Making that box behave like it should was pretty fun last time, so here we go again... :D

Other smaller improvements so far:Note that I'm editing my local file, so these fixes won't appear here immediately, but sooner or later they will get here...
Please continue to report any odd things and keep making suggestions, let's make this theme as nice as we can!

Also, it might be a good idea to move the theme discussion to this thread (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=160.0) if it gets too long, just to keep things organized.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on May 08, 2015, 05:06:44 PM
I like the new forum theme, but it doesn't seem to work for me while I'm logged in. Like, I can only see the new theme when I'm browsing as a guest for some reason.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 08, 2015, 05:11:11 PM
Also, it might be a good idea to move the theme discussion to this thread (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=160.0) if it gets too long, just to keep things organized.

Thanks for all your hard work, Eriaror!  Despite my nit-picking, I'm very pleased with this Forum option.

Would you like me to move the posts relating to your new theme into the thread you suggested?  I can do that as a Skald.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 08, 2015, 06:10:33 PM
ETA: Also, personally I don't have a problem with it but the text in the dropdown menus is quite tiny, some members might appreciate a larger font especially since it's a serif :)

This member would certainly appreciate slightly larger text in the dropdowns!  (Adjusts glasses.)

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 08, 2015, 06:29:02 PM
I like the new forum theme, but it doesn't seem to work for me while I'm logged in. Like, I can only see the new theme when I'm browsing as a guest for some reason.
Do you instead see the same theme you've had before the change? If so, my guess'ld be that you expressedly selected that theme in your preferences, and need to switch back to "Forum or Board Default" to have such changes apply to you automagically.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 08, 2015, 07:28:55 PM
Made the sub-menu font size a bit larger. ;)

Also, I finally got that nasty upper box regulated (hooray!)

Changes will go live as soon as hushpiper makes them live :D
And now I go to SLEEP. Good night, everyone!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 08, 2015, 07:35:36 PM
Made the sub-menu font size a bit larger. ;)

Also, I finally got that nasty upper box regulated (hooray!)

Changes will go live as soon as hushpiper makes them live :D
And now I go to SLEEP. Good night, everyone!

Thanks for making such a beautiful SSSS theme for us!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 08, 2015, 08:58:55 PM
Fixed version of the theme is up, and looking awesome! The news box in particular is functioning much better, and the small tweaks are appreciated. I'm thinking I may make a completely different thread to put theme discussion in, so that we can put updates and so on in the first post--I'm not aware of a way to go back and put a new first post in, else I'd just do that--but that will have to wait a bit because sleepiness. ;)

If you're still seeing the malfunctioning news box: You probably still have the old theme version cached in your browser. Do a hard refresh (ctrl+f5 in most browsers), or clear your browser cache (ctrl+shift+delete). As a side note, if you'd rather see the picture at the top right than the news box, click the ^ button to the right to close the box entirely. Click it again to bring it back.

If you aren't seeing the new theme at all: Firstly, do you see the new theme when you aren't logged in? If no, then clear your cache as described above. If yes, you probably have another theme specified in your settings. Go in the menus to Profile > Account Settings > Look and Layout > Current Theme > (change), and select "forum default" or "SSSSLight" from the list.

Thanks again to Eriaror for the excellent work on the theme and for the quick bugfixes--neither Eich nor I could've done anything near this nice on our own!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Richard Weir on May 08, 2015, 10:07:50 PM
Thanks again to Eriaror for the excellent work on the theme and for the quick bugfixes-- ...

Hear! Hear!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on May 09, 2015, 05:07:02 AM
Hum. I have a smaller avatar now but the text is part inside, part underneath... *Look at her Mac keyboard* Bha, it's all right, I like this new theme a lot :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on May 09, 2015, 05:13:56 AM
yes! yes! yes! this is beautiful!
and has so many new things, like prettiness, and improved searches (including members, and topics) that I'll test soon!
thankyouthankyouthankyou!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on May 09, 2015, 03:12:19 PM
Is there a way to have messages to be shown "in a conversation" but have the conversation over several pages instead of aaaalll at once? Because um I have some very long conversations that are getting very slow to load.... i should probably choose some of the other options but I'm not sure which of them I'm after
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 09, 2015, 06:51:52 PM
I take it that this should actually get replaced by the name of the topic-starting user?
(http://i.imgur.com/ogjvob1.png)
(I'm not sure that this is actually connected to the new theme ...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on May 09, 2015, 07:38:42 PM
(I'm not sure that this is actually connected to the new theme ...)

I changed the theme back to the old one for a moment and yes, it's still there! Though I'm not sure how long that's been showing up... it's possible it's always been there and I just never noticed until you pointed it out
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: urbicande on May 09, 2015, 08:49:38 PM
Fixed version of the theme is up, and looking awesome! The news box in particular is functioning much better, and the

Yes, I approve. It looks pretty good
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on May 09, 2015, 11:11:45 PM
I take it that this should actually get replaced by the name of the topic-starting user?
(http://i.imgur.com/ogjvob1.png)
(I'm not sure that this is actually connected to the new theme ...)

I'm pretty sure that that indicates "People in this column are the author of the reply next to their name" rather than "<insert topic author here>".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Adrai Thell on May 09, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
My friend suggested making the top navigation bar scroll down with the scroll bar, so it would stay at the top of your window while you're looking at the bottom - I can see how that could be useful, but also how it could be annoying. Thoughts? Has this been suggested before?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lenny on May 10, 2015, 12:07:42 AM
My friend suggested making the top navigation bar scroll down with the scroll bar, so it would stay at the top of your window while you're looking at the bottom - I can see how that could be useful, but also how it could be annoying. Thoughts? Has this been suggested before?

I've been on several websites that have that feature, and personally, I've always found it extraordinarily annoying. There also isn't much in the navigation bar that I personally would find useful to have accessible at all times. A link to the home page is nice, but that is available at the bottom of the page in any case.

Those are only my thoughts, however, and other people might find more use out of it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Amity on May 10, 2015, 12:24:33 AM
This new layout is really cute!  That's an impressive amount of work and care.

I could list all the things I like but I want to get to the point, and there is only one thing that's a problem, so I will just say all praises to this excellent new layout, imagine a long list of good things, and also this:

From a graphic design point of view, it's not a good idea to put generic black text over semi-alpha'd background images, even cool sliding ones.  It kills the contrast and makes readability a chore.  I'd wager that even people who don't mind are just being stoic.

If you want to have text areas be semi-transparent, make sure that the actual text is backed by solid white fill somehow.  There are four places where I see the need for that with this design:

 - quote boxes
 - the text box I'm typing in now  :/
 - the breadcrumb bar at the top ("The Stand Still, Stay Silent Fan-Forum » Topics » Forum and Website Discussion » etc...")
 - the topmost upper right summary box ("Show unread posts since your last visit," etc)

I don't know how easy this is to fix in this CMS.  But if you really want it to look its best, the text contrast is key.

Thanks again for all your hard work!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on May 10, 2015, 02:16:53 AM
I LOVE it, it's beautifully designed, and really gives our fandom a nice cover! The forum is no longer without character, it feel like it belongs to Minna! Also, the little news in the upper right hand corner is very useful!  ;D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 10, 2015, 04:38:48 AM
I thought of making it that way, but eventually did not do it for the same reason. There's nothing in it that really has to be conveniently accessible all the time, AND it would take up screen space there.
However, I can still make it if a lot of people would like it for some reason I didn't consider. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 10, 2015, 05:04:00 AM
[...]

If you want to have text areas be semi-transparent, make sure that the actual text is backed by solid white fill somehow.  There are four places where I see the need for that with this design:

 - quote boxes
 - the text box I'm typing in now  :/
 - the breadcrumb bar at the top ("The Stand Still, Stay Silent Fan-Forum » Topics » Forum and Website Discussion » etc...")
 - the topmost upper right summary box ("Show unread posts since your last visit," etc)

I don't know how easy this is to fix in this CMS.  But if you really want it to look its best, the text contrast is key.

On most of these I just went with a background transparent enough that you can see what's underneath but opaque enough to make the text readable. However, what may be fine to read for me, may be hard to read for someone else.Sooo maybe making that translucency slider would really be a good idea, I'll experiment with that today.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 10, 2015, 06:16:56 AM
I'm pretty sure that that indicates "People in this column are the author of the reply next to their name" rather than "<insert topic author here>".
Good point. It is the same on SMF's own forum (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 10, 2015, 06:23:24 AM
My friend suggested making the top navigation bar scroll down with the scroll bar, so it would stay at the top of your window while you're looking at the bottom - I can see how that could be useful, but also how it could be annoying. Thoughts? Has this been suggested before?
Like the Wikia-enforced top navigation bar on our wiki (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Stand_Still,_Stay_Silent_Wiki)? Don your fireproof underwear before reading what Wikia users had to comment (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Rupert_Giles/Global_Navigation_Update) on those (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Rupert_Giles/Global_Navigation_January_Update) announcements ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on May 10, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
I LOVE it, it's beautifully designed, and really gives our fandom a nice cover! The forum is no longer without character, it feel like it belongs to Minna! Also, the little news in the upper right hand corner is very useful!  ;D
The news box was always there.  It held the link to the comic before the new theme was implemented.
It just... wasn't very well placed before, and was easy to miss... especially if you collapsed the upper box that held it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Amity on May 10, 2015, 12:09:31 PM
On most of these I just went with a background transparent enough that you can see what's underneath but opaque enough to make the text readable. However, what may be fine to read for me, may be hard to read for someone else.

It's not like it's black on black backed by a black background.  I can in fact read the text, it's just that it's a snag.

I really like the background images and how they appear and disappear in little corners and edges!  But it's slightly ironic -- the layout has all this opaque white space where there's no text, and where there's text it has the wrinkly watercolor and half-alpha text overlays.  So I see less of the art that I would want, because it's covered by so much white fill in so many places, but where I do see it is where I also want to read type.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Adrai Thell on May 10, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Like the Wikia-enforced top navigation bar...

Reminder of that tipped me over from being iffy to being definitely against. Yech, that thing is not my favorite thing ever...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 10, 2015, 08:42:08 PM
On most of these I just went with a background transparent enough that you can see what's underneath but opaque enough to make the text readable. However, what may be fine to read for me, may be hard to read for someone else.
  • The grayish watercolor texture in the textboxes feels stupid now, I'll probably change it to pure white
  • I could easily back the breadcrumbs with some white
  • The quote boxes seem fine to me, they were almost like this since the forum exists
  • I could maybe make the upper box a bit more opaque. Just a bit, because I dooon't want to hide that picture of the crew...  :-\
Sooo maybe making that translucency slider would really be a good idea, I'll experiment with that today.

I like the quote boxes as-is! And yeah, a translucency slider is probably a good idea, and was requested earlier I think. I don't look at the news box all that often and mostly keep it scrolled up, so the question of transparency or no-transparency is a nonissue for me personally. Also I should note that in my boredom/curiosity yesterday I started tweaking the theme for mobile, based on the responsive curve mod (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=4040) SMF put out the other day. It's hacky as hell so far, but it does resize properly for smaller screens and uses menu icons from FontAwesome. It's up on the dev site (http://dev.ssssforum.com) as usual.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on May 11, 2015, 05:26:27 AM
Don't pay attention to what I said before, all is all right now and this new theme is perfect :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 11, 2015, 11:38:49 AM
All the cookies to you, hushpiper!
I didn't have the courage to start making a mobile version, and then you do it. And it's awesome!
If you need help in anything, you can contact me anytime* ;)

*(I probably won't answer while I'm sleeping or not online but I'll see it eventually)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 11, 2015, 10:41:41 PM
Is it possible to change the links in "Minna's Comics" above so they open the comics in a new browser window, rather than replacing the forum?  (Or rather, to have that be the default setting?)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 11, 2015, 11:00:51 PM
Is it possible to change the links in "Minna's Comics" above so they open the comics in a new browser window, rather than replacing the forum?  (Or rather, to have that be the default setting?)

Done. Was just a small change to the existing code. Let me know if it works for you, I didn't test it as thoroughly as I usually do. :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 11, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
All the cookies to you, hushpiper!
I didn't have the courage to start making a mobile version, and then you do it. And it's awesome!
If you need help in anything, you can contact me anytime* ;)

*(I probably won't answer while I'm sleeping or not online but I'll see it eventually)

Eheheh well, I'll send you instructions to replicate it on your side sometime tomorrow, because I could sure use your help with the CSS--like I said, it's hacky as hell and could probably be made much better by someone who knows CSS better than I do. :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Emil on May 16, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
So I have a couple of suggestions, but beware that this is just my opinions and should therefore not be regarded if there's a overwhelming opposition to it. Just basing it off my previous "forum experience"

First off, if you can introduce some sort of colourscheme  of some sort for nicknames so we can easier see which usergroup a user belongs to (like members, moderators, admins, that sort of stuff) that'd be nice. It's hard to tell sometimes, especially when one's new.

Another thing that might be nice is a small, maybe subtle line separating posts from poster. Maybe a small, grey line? Example of what I'm thinking of (http://i.imgur.com/NGuBZio.jpg).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 16, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
So I have a couple of suggestions, but beware that this is just my opinions and should therefore not be regarded if there's a overwhelming opposition to it. Just basing it off my previous "forum experience"

First off, if you can introduce some sort of colourscheme  of some sort for nicknames so we can easier see which usergroup a user belongs to (like members, moderators, admins, that sort of stuff) that'd be nice. It's hard to tell sometimes, especially when one's new.

Good suggestion, Emil.  (Um, wait.  Aren't you supposed to be on the opposite side of the proverbial fourth wall?  I'm confused.  ;))

The truth is, we don't have a lot of different user groups yet.  There's exactly one admin -- Eich, all hail -- and three assistant admins/content moderators:  Noako (who, regrettably, seems to have gone missing), Hushpiper the Slayer of Silence, and me, a Skald.  (Which means I can do some content and thread stuff, but not mess up the forum technically.)

Everyone else here is a member.  We do have ranks based on post count, which I'm sure you've seen -- Newbie, Safe-Zone Citizen, Scout, etc. -- and those are displayed by name and square count at the left, by your Forum name and icon. 

So I don't know if there's much need for your suggestion just yet.  Who knows, though -- a year down the road we could have thousands of members and spin-off sub-forums stretching from here to Kastrup, and therefore a sore need for more user classification.

Meanwhile, do keep those suggestions coming!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 17, 2015, 08:57:15 AM
First off, if you can introduce some sort of colourscheme  of some sort for nicknames so we can easier see which usergroup a user belongs to (like members, moderators, admins, that sort of stuff) that'd be nice.
Isn't that what the row of squares two lines below the username already does? Red for the admins, green for our forum skald / moderator, and yellow for everyone else?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on May 17, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
Isn't that what the row of squares two lines below the username already does? Red for the admins, green for our forum skald / moderator, and yellow for everyone else?
Yup. The names in the list of online users (at the bottom of the home page) also displays names in different colors, though I think I need to add green for Sunny.  So if an edit needs to be made, it's just that
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 17, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
Ohhhhhh, so that's why my name shows up in red at the bottom! *slaps forehead* I'm such an intelligent person sometimes, srs.

Also, note to self so this is in the right thread: We discovered a while back that because of the way the website handles HTTPS, if you embed a youtube video using normal HTTP, the video will show up blank in some browsers--notably chrome. I'm considering what's the best way to handle this, such as a selective htaccess rewrite (which is relatively easy but adds to page load time), but the best way (and hardest to implement) would be to put some php hoozits in to the post submission process to find youtube links and change the http to https before saving in the database. *makes weighing motion*
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 19, 2015, 04:35:08 AM
Is it possible to create folders and sub-folders for our PM Inboxes, like for regular e-mail?  I have accumulated quite a lot, and I'd like to have folders for, e.g. content requests and Promotion Ceremony invites. 

(I realize I may be the only Forumite with a PM hoarding problem of this scale...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 19, 2015, 08:13:01 AM
General question: Does BBcode get anywhere near tables (as in, force some proper alignment of the flags of our fathers signatures)?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on May 19, 2015, 04:34:28 PM
Is it possible to create folders and sub-folders for our PM Inboxes, like for regular e-mail?  I have accumulated quite a lot, and I'd like to have folders for, e.g. content requests and Promotion Ceremony invites. 

(I realize I may be the only Forumite with a PM hoarding problem of this scale...)
Check under actions and preferences.  You can create rules to change how your inbox works, and, while I'm not certain, I'd assume there's a way to do something similar to folders.

General question: Does BBcode get anywhere near tables (as in, force some proper alignment of the flags of our fathers signatures)?
Yeah, I was going to use a table in the helpful info thread, for the flags, but it kept messing up the spacing on the left-most column, placing it farther away from the others.  I can't any of the details, but I know there's a tutorial I found out there with a google search or two. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 19, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
Yeah, I was going to use a table in the helpful info thread, for the flags, but it kept messing up the spacing on the left-most column, placing it farther away from the others.  I can't any of the details, but I know there's a tutorial I found out there with a google search or two.
Turns out it's pretty much an analogon to HTML (http://www.bbcode.org/examples/?id=14), except that [th] does not work.
(And it's manhandling the vertical positioning for me. ::) )
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2015, 04:15:53 PM
Quote
Is it possible to create folders and sub-folders for our PM Inboxes, like for regular e-mail?  I have accumulated quite a lot, and I'd like to have folders for, e.g. content requests and Promotion Ceremony invites. 
(I realize I may be the only Forumite with a PM hoarding problem of this scale...)

Check under actions and preferences.  You can create rules to change how your inbox works, and, while I'm not certain, I'd assume there's a way to do something similar to folders.
Thanks for the tip!

The "Labels" function works great.  It's not folders per se, but it does tag designated messages into their own stack. 
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Personal_messages#Label_System

The one drawback:  You can't Label messages in your Sent folder, because the system will only apply labels to messages that were in the Inbox to start with. 

BTW, I guess I'm not endangering the Forum's PM upper limit just yet:

By default, 4,294,967,296 personal messages may be sent on a forum.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 20, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
Most forums tend to limit you to something like 50, 100 or 500 per user.  May seem like a lot, but you would be surprised how quickly they fill up.  Numbers tend to depend on whether the forum counts each message as 1 or each conversation as 1.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2015, 05:00:26 PM
Most forums tend to limit you to something like 50, 100 or 500 per user.  May seem like a lot, but you would be surprised how quickly they fill up.  Numbers tend to depend on whether the forum counts each message as 1 or each conversation as 1.

AH HA HA!  (Embarrassed Torbjorn face.)

I actually have over 500 PMs, if you count "Sent" as well as "Inbox."  Is that too many?  Do I have to join a 12-step program for Excessive PM'ing?   :-[
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 20, 2015, 05:05:30 PM
AH HA HA!  (Embarrassed Torbjorn face.)

I actually have over 500 PMs, if you count "Sent" as well as "Inbox."  Is that too many?  Do I have to join a 12-step program for Excessive PM'ing?   :-[

Wow, I have bumped up against the PM limit a couple of times in the past, but never when the limit was set that high :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 20, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
By default, 4,294,967,296 personal messages may be sent on a forum.
Ah, unsigned 32 bit integer as an ID, apparently. Guess that means that you can only reduce the limit.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2015, 06:37:45 PM
Is there a way to have messages to be shown "in a conversation" but have the conversation over several pages instead of aaaalll at once?

Because um I have some very long conversations that are getting very slow to load.... i should probably choose some of the other options but I'm not sure which of them I'm after

No, I don't think so -- I've tried. 
The only workaround I can think of at the moment is periodically not "Reply" to someone but create a new message (even if you have to copy-and-paste in what you're replying to).  I know that's not ideal.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on May 21, 2015, 10:21:51 AM
No, I don't think so -- I've tried. 
The only workaround I can think of at the moment is periodically not "Reply" to someone but create a new message (even if you have to copy-and-paste in what you're replying to).  I know that's not ideal.
yeahhh it struck me right after posting that that that's what I had to do, and I did.

(also thank you english language for making me write "that" three times in a row)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 21, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
Two times in a row would have been enough, reading that sentence hurts my head.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unwary on May 27, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
Is it possible to have longer chains in PMs? so you can see the whole response thread, instead of just the previous post?
I am running a forum game involving lots of PMs and I am having trouble keeping track of things at times.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 27, 2015, 05:23:31 PM
Is it possible to have longer chains in PMs? so you can see the whole response thread, instead of just the previous post?
I am running a forum game involving lots of PMs and I am having trouble keeping track of things at times.

I have similar PM issues, and I find that changing my settings to "View as a Conversation" works.

Go to your PMs --> Settings -->Preferences-->Display Personal Messages.  Change the choice on the menu to "As a Conversation" (as opposed to All at Once or One at a Time). 

(http://i.imgur.com/UDcUAQK.jpg)

Hope that helps!  I'm having fun with the Shared Story, so naturally I want to smooth your path!   :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Helia on May 28, 2015, 08:03:20 AM
in the name of the Hungarian Newbies:

Would it be possible to get a Hungarian flag? 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on May 28, 2015, 09:14:49 AM
Would it be possible to be able to save drafts of pms?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: UFOO9000 on May 29, 2015, 12:48:10 AM
For the heck of it I just went through the members of the forum and a lot of them have never posted. Though I suppose it can be a "if they ever want to come back" or "maybe they are just lurking", but as I have a forum of my own most of the time those members end up being hacked or they just end up using a username someone else might want. Thouhg the forum is public (some privacy would be nice) it would be good to have some kind of rules for inactives that never introduced themselves or posted anything. Sometimes someone will join only to answer to one thread, but at least they posted once. I'm kinda rambling now, its more a suggestion then an improvement, though it really depends what you think of it....
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on May 29, 2015, 08:03:20 AM
For the heck of it I just went through the members of the forum and a lot of them have never posted. Though I suppose it can be a "if they ever want to come back" or "maybe they are just lurking", but as I have a forum of my own most of the time those members end up being hacked or they just end up using a username someone else might want. Thouhg the forum is public (some privacy would be nice) it would be good to have some kind of rules for inactives that never introduced themselves or posted anything. Sometimes someone will join only to answer to one thread, but at least they posted once. I'm kinda rambling now, its more a suggestion then an improvement, though it really depends what you think of it....

Been thinking along the same lines actually. There are some 167 members who have never posted anything. Many of them have been registered for months.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Laufey on May 29, 2015, 08:26:54 AM
At another forum that I used to admin we had to make a rule about non-posters for those very reasons UFOO9000 listed. You have a month to make ten posts in the forum, if you don't rack them up you get a reminder via PM. You'll then get another month hang time during which you can still make those ten posts or however many are missing before the nick gets removed as an abandoned one. That forum is larger than this one which needs to be taken into consideration, but maybe something similar would work here?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fen Shen on May 29, 2015, 09:28:33 AM
I'm also active in another forum. There, accounts are deleted if they exist for more than three months and still have 0 posts. However, I don't know if there is a technical solution that is doing this or if someone has to sit down once in a while and delete all these accounts manually.

I think it is sensible to delete accounts with 0 posts after some time. For reading only, you don't need to register. And if someone rediscovers the forum and finally does want to post, it is no problem to create an account again - when you didn't have any posts or PMs, you don't lose anything. Is there a way to check if a user with 0 posts has any PMs?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on May 29, 2015, 09:36:36 AM
One way to tell if an account is a lurker or just inactive is to check the account's stats. Many of them have close to 0 minutes of registered activity.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on May 29, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
And I guess sorting through it every once in a while manually will not take up that much time. Like, it would not take several hours each day.

But sure that would be additional rules, right?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on May 29, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
I'm also active in another forum. There, accounts are deleted if they exist for more than three months and still have 0 posts. However, I don't know if there is a technical solution that is doing this or if someone has to sit down once in a while and delete all these accounts manually.

That is along the lines of what I was thinking.  There are a lot of people that post very infrequently and so would not get 10 posts within a month.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on May 30, 2015, 06:33:15 AM
That is along the lines of what I was thinking.  There are a lot of people that post very infrequently and so would not get 10 posts within a month.

As Eich pointed out here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=2.msg38402#msg38402) there will be further discussions on that matter. And I guess that will include if and how post counts might be set to prevent accounts of low frequent posters from being banned unfairly.

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 31, 2015, 01:58:38 PM
Announcement thing: I have just finished the newer edition of the forum theme! The notable improvement is that it got somewhat more responsive, and
it has a mobile version!
That's right, no more annoying zooming and horizontal scrolling!

Other smaller tweaks include:
Changes will appear on the dev site and then here soon-ish.
Huge thanks to the wonderful hushpiper for the idea and about half the work on the mobile version! ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on May 31, 2015, 02:13:23 PM

Responsive theme is up on dev.ssssforum.com for your perusal! Let us know if there's any issues; if all looks well we'll have <5min of downtime later today while I update it on this end.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Tap10lan on May 31, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
Yep, I was looking through the language threads and there are specific requests for the Serbian and Macedonian flags.  (I know most linguists consider Serbo-Croatian a single language, and we do already have a Croatian flag -- but *politically* the countries are certainly very different!)

In the part of Austria my dad comes from, they speak an archaic southern slavic language they call Croatian, and after Yugoslavia fell apart, the Croatians actually came up there to borrow old words, in order to differentiate themselves from the other southern slavs ... Ridiculously idiotic, but there you are. There are idiots everywhere, and if you let them have weapons, you run the risk of them using enough violence to incite others to start processes that cause the kind of horrors that happened down there.
I felt the closest I could come to defining the language of my father was "Croatian", since it has even been used to distance Croatia from Serbo-Croatian ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 01, 2015, 12:26:26 PM
I have made a little bugtesting on my phone, details with pics under the folds.
Spoiler: Bug 1 • show
(http://i.snag.gy/mVt42.jpg)
May appear on some old-old default phone browsers (with the app name "Browser") which don't really support all of CSS3. I think I have fixed it though, so it'll disappear by the time the responsive goodness reaches the main site ;)

Spoiler: Bug 2 • show
(http://i.snag.gy/IPPMr.jpg)
This problem is most likely on SMF's responsive mod's side, they will probably fix it (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.msg3809471#msg3809471) for the next beta of the mod.

Spoiler: "Bug" 3 • show
(http://i.snag.gy/YIU48.jpg)
Not a bug, working as intended, as most of you may have suspected, I'm just including it to be sure. The screen is simply tooooo narrow for all those icons to fit on one line! :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Guardian G.I. on June 14, 2015, 07:44:10 AM
-wrong thread, whoops-
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: DB (f.k.a. DaveBro) on June 19, 2015, 09:27:55 PM
Very non-urgent, if probably easy:

Could we get a link to the forum on the comic Home page, so we don't have to load the latest page and comments?  It's a very lazy request,  :-[  I admit, but it would be 1 less Favorite clogging my very primitive smartphone favorites.    :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 20, 2015, 08:55:14 AM
The comic's page is made and edited by Minna, we have no control over what gets put on it. You can ask her to do it in an e-mail or in the comments if it's important to you.
Or you can just bookmark only http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php as most of us did. :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Myferi on June 21, 2015, 03:20:56 AM
Hiya, I was putting language flags in my profile, and seems there's no other Latvians around because that one's missing. Any chance it could be uploaded?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Daéa Reina on June 21, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
I've been trying to log into the forum from my phone, but the dev.ssssforum.com doesn't accept my username. When I access by ssssforum.com (without the "dev"), I can log in fine.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 21, 2015, 12:27:34 PM
http://dev.ssssforum.com/ is a separate testing site and it does not share databases with the live one, so you cannot log in because you presumably haven't made an account there yet.
If you'd like to participate in testing out stuff (*mumbles about testing the mobile theme version*), you can make an account of course. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on June 21, 2015, 03:55:25 PM
Hiya, I was putting language flags in my profile, and seems there's no other Latvians around because that one's missing. Any chance it could be uploaded?
Latvian flag uploaded.
:latvia: :latvia: :latvia:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on June 22, 2015, 05:45:41 AM
Alternatively you can type in ssssforum.com, as URLs go it is pretty short and easy to remember.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: snotra on June 22, 2015, 06:00:20 AM
Do we have a post concerning key comic pages, like the maps of the known world, important pages with information, key plot developments in the comic?

It might help finding information more easily.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on June 22, 2015, 06:05:15 AM
Do we have a post concerning key comic pages, like the maps of the known world, important pages with information, key plot developments in the comic?

It might help finding information more easily.
The world info pages have links here : http://www.sssscomic.com/index.php?id=about ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Synæsthesia on June 24, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
Would it be possible to get a dark theme for the forum? I prefer not to stare into light bulbs while I use my computer. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on June 24, 2015, 10:36:10 PM
Would it be possible to get a dark theme for the forum? I prefer not to stare into light bulbs while I use my computer. :)
There's a few add-ons you can get for Chrome and Firefox (and I imagine other browsers) that invert the colors in your browser. Just search for "night mode extension"
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Synæsthesia on June 24, 2015, 10:52:23 PM
Tak, ven!

I'd still prefer a dark theme, but this will do for now.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on June 25, 2015, 01:02:48 AM
Do we have a post concerning key comic pages, like the maps of the known world, important pages with information, key plot developments in the comic?

It might help finding information more easily.
Not here, but I'd like to direct your attention to our awesome Wikia ~> http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_Pages (http://sssscomic.wikia.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_Pages)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 25, 2015, 04:11:13 AM
Coincidence, because that's exactly what I've been working on!

(http://i.snag.gy/WAQbc.jpg)

ETA: soon. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on June 25, 2015, 12:12:52 PM
Coincidence, because that's exactly what I've been working on!

(http://i.snag.gy/WAQbc.jpg)

ETA: soon. ;)
Oooh that's awesome! :D will it work on mobile browsers too?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 25, 2015, 06:49:02 PM
I'm implementing it as a theme variant, so it's based on this theme, only some colors get changed.
Therefore it will be just as good for mobile as this theme is! ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on June 26, 2015, 01:22:31 AM
We have a request from a new member for a flag for the Malay language.  It's spoken in several southeast Asian countries, but Malaysia is probably the most logical candidate for a country flag to indicate Malay.

On a similar topic, we need a language flag for Arabic.  The Saudi Arabian flag is probably the best candidate, since it's the home of Islam's holiest sites (such as Mecca), and the Koran remains the standard for the Arabic language.  (Also, IIRC there actually is an Arabic phrase on the Saudi flag.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Dane Murgen on June 26, 2015, 04:50:13 AM
We have a request from a new member for a flag for the Malay language.  It's spoken in several southeast Asian countries, but Malaysia is probably the most logical candidate for a country flag to indicate Malay.

On a similar topic, we need a language flag for Arabic.  The Saudi Arabian flag is probably the best candidate, since it's the home of Islam's holiest sites (such as Mecca), and the Koran remains the standard for the Arabic language.  (Also, IIRC there actually is an Arabic phrase on the Saudi flag.)

I'd actually argue for Egypt's flag to be used for Arabic, since apparently Arab entertainment, like films and things are done in Egyptian Arabic, and not Standard Arabic. I could be wrong, though.

I would also like to reiterate the request for a flag for New Zealand and the Philippines.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Koeshi on June 26, 2015, 05:32:21 AM
Arabic is a very broad term.  While there is technically one over-arching classical language, every region uses its own variant and they differ to the extent that those speaking the dialects of different regions often are unable to understand each other.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Russet on June 26, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
I'd actually argue for Egypt's flag to be used for Arabic, since apparently Arab entertainment, like films and things are done in Egyptian Arabic, and not Standard Arabic. I could be wrong, though.

Is it possible to have both flags and then let the users decide which one they'd prefer to use when referring to the Arabic language?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Kizzy on June 26, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I concur with what Koeshi said; Arabic is indeed a very broad term. Not only does the language have "Standard Arabic", but it also encompasses plenty of dialects. The Gulf region/Middle East alone has around 8 different dialects. While they have similarities in many linguistic aspects and are mutually intelligible there are substantial differences, much like how the UK/American/Australian English differ. We also have at least 4 Syriac dialects. The Arabic dialects in the African continent though differ greatly.

I suggest that Arabic dialect flags get uploaded upon request; in my case, I would definitely like a Kuwaiti flag. Wish I speak it well enough though *sniff*

About the entertainment industry: Egypt has the largest film productions, hence why much of the Arabic entertainment that non-Arabs know are spoken in Egyptian dialect. There are other Arab countries that produce entertainment including Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, though they're not as known as Egypt's.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on June 26, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
The problem with using flags to = languages is that there isn't a 1-for-1 correspondence of languages with countries -- cf.using the flag of Vatican City for Latin.
 If Eich is willing, I see no reason why we couldn't offer multiple national flags for Arabic.  We still wouldn't have à good way to represent multiple dialects within or across countries but at least we could represent Egyptian Arabic, the dialect most widely spoken  (and taught to foreigners). 
That still doesn't help with languages like Navajo or Visayan, but one step at a time.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Kizzy on June 26, 2015, 02:55:31 PM
Sure, I don't see why we should not add the Egypt flag, it is the most widely spoken Arabic dialect. And I guess if we were to narrow down the gulf dialect we could just settle for a Saudi flag. Not the best solution but I guess it could work.
In case of the Navajo and Visaya though, I haven't asked about them because they lack actual flags to represent them (I'm not entirely sure about the former, and the latter could settle for a Filipino flag).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on June 26, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
Sure, I don't see why we should not add the Egypt flag, it is the most widely spoken Arabic dialect. And I guess if we were to narrow down the gulf dialect we could just settle for a Saudi flag. Not the best solution but I guess it could work.
In case of the Navajo and Visaya though, I haven't asked about them because they lack actual flags to represent them (I'm not entirely sure about the former, and the latter could settle for a Filipino flag).
For Navajo, I suppose we could use the flag of the Navajo Nation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation)?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Navajo_flag.svg)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on June 27, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Suggestion: use the flag of the Arab League.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on July 04, 2015, 11:55:45 PM
So, due to the HUGE popularity of the self-inserts, I'd like to propose making a sub-board in the main SSSS board for just that entire thing. I counted and just on the first two pages alone there are 9 threads about self-inserts - this is totally fine, but maybe it's time to give them their own space? That way people who are not involved in the various projects around it can avoid it easily, and those that are, can find it easily.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on July 05, 2015, 02:26:24 AM
So, due to the HUGE popularity of the self-inserts, I'd like to propose making a sub-board in the main SSSS board for just that entire thing. I counted and just on the first two pages alone there are 9 threads about self-inserts - this is totally fine, but maybe it's time to give them their own space? That way people who are not involved in the various projects around it can avoid it easily, and those that are, can find it easily.

Thoughts?

I think it's a great idea.  But 1) I don't know how to make a sub-board and 2) it should probably be Eich's call because it's the first time we've considered such a thing.  If we don't hear back from him within a day or two, I'll PM him with a reminder.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on July 05, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
So, due to the HUGE popularity of the self-inserts, I'd like to propose making a sub-board in the main SSSS board for just that entire thing. I counted and just on the first two pages alone there are 9 threads about self-inserts - this is totally fine, but maybe it's time to give them their own space? That way people who are not involved in the various projects around it can avoid it easily, and those that are, can find it easily.

Thoughts?
I think it's a great idea.  But 1) I don't know how to make a sub-board and 2) it should probably be Eich's call because it's the first time we've considered such a thing.  If we don't hear back from him within a day or two, I'll PM him with a reminder.
I think a child board would be a good idea at this point.  Perhaps one containing all creative projects?  That way there could still be a substantial amount of content in the board.  On the other hand, keeping it just for SSSSona stuff would keep the content simple and easy to navigate.  Anyone want to weigh in?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on July 05, 2015, 12:26:05 PM
I think a child board would be a good idea at this point.  Perhaps one containing all creative projects?  That way there could still be a substantial amount of content in the board.  On the other hand, keeping it just for SSSSona stuff would keep the content simple and easy to navigate.  Anyone want to weigh in?
Of course, you could make two child-boards if you felt like it. More specific categorising makes for easier navigation, but equally we don't want to split everything up too much as it actually gets counter-intuitive. A 'creative projects' (or synonym) board seems like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on July 05, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
Of course, you could make two child-boards if you felt like it. More specific categorising makes for easier navigation, but equally we don't want to split everything up too much as it actually gets counter-intuitive. A 'creative projects' (or synonym) board seems like a good idea to me.
The only problem I can see with that is that there currently are two kinds of "creative projects" threads popping up - ones related to SSSS and ones that are not related. Would we move them both onto the same board? Keep them separate?

I do agree though that we don't want to sub-divide TOO finely.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on July 05, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
I think a child board would be a good idea at this point.  Perhaps one containing all creative projects?  That way there could still be a substantial amount of content in the board.  On the other hand, keeping it just for SSSSona stuff would keep the content simple and easy to navigate.  Anyone want to weigh in?

I'd prefer one for just SSSSona stuff. If it was just one board for all "creative projects" it would just get oversaturated with the SSSSona stuff. And I don't think we have enough "creative project" threads that we'd need a new board for them. Two child-boards sounds a bit excessive, honestly.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on July 05, 2015, 02:12:25 PM
I'd prefer one for just SSSSona stuff. If it was just one board for all "creative projects" it would just get oversaturated with the SSSSona stuff. And I don't think we have enough "creative project" threads that we'd need a new board for them. Two child-boards sounds a bit excessive, honestly.
I second this. The self-insert trend has grown into something huge and could use the space, and maybe an attempt at organization so it's easier for newbies to get into it... and seeing as it's not exactly comic canon, it would make sense. but there are not enough non-sona 'creative projects' to warrant it its own board, in my opinion.

edit: I also volunteer to write an infopost/masterpost for the board if it happens? since I've been on board with the self-inserts since their humble beginnings and know what's going on
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on July 05, 2015, 03:13:07 PM
So, due to the HUGE popularity of the self-inserts, I'd like to propose making a sub-board in the main SSSS board for just that entire thing. I counted and just on the first two pages alone there are 9 threads about self-inserts - this is totally fine, but maybe it's time to give them their own space? That way people who are not involved in the various projects around it can avoid it easily, and those that are, can find it easily.

Thoughts?

I support a common creative content board. I suggest we put it to a poll to get things decided.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on July 05, 2015, 07:37:45 PM
the "new topic" or "reply" button is being very very red compared to everything else, and maybe it's just being late but it kinda bothers me? i mean it makes sense for it to stick out but... hlep
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on July 05, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
the "new topic" or "reply" button is being very very red compared to everything else, and maybe it's just being late but it kinda bothers me? i mean it makes sense for it to stick out but... hlep
It is noticeably redder!
I wasn't sure if it was just my new monitor or what, but I'm glad I was actually right.
It's no big deal, but eh.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on July 05, 2015, 08:07:52 PM
Suddenly the format of everything is extremely wonky on my phone, and I can't find the button I use most often (new replies). All the text in the threads is too small to read, and the table for the thread titles is all squished to the left side. The red reply button is mildly distracting but not overwhelmingly so. On a positive note, the buttons for smileys, italics, etc. for writing a post are now big enough, even though they were too small in the past.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 05, 2015, 08:09:47 PM
I think a child board would be a good idea at this point.  Perhaps one containing all creative projects?  That way there could still be a substantial amount of content in the board.  On the other hand, keeping it just for SSSSona stuff would keep the content simple and easy to navigate.  Anyone want to weigh in?
Just one for SSSSonas sounds more logical to me. A significant amount of threads in the SSSS Board are at least in part creative stuff, like, more than half of the threads on the first page. Creating a sub-board for all this would be too broad in my opinion.
Also, threads around creative stuff tend to update more and more frequently, because people keep posting new things they've made. If we sent all those to a sub-board, users would have to go to there after going to the SSSS Board all the time, because that's where stuff happens. One more navigation click without much benefit.

tl;dr: Sub-board for Self-Insert stuff. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on July 06, 2015, 05:21:29 AM
The mobile version of the browser has changed, like, WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK?!?!

Guys, IT LOOKS WEIRD NOW!

Am I experiencing bugs? Does anyone else use their phones to check the forum? Because I am having some issues, check out the screen grabs from my phone:

This is the home screen, where are the logos? how do I know if there are posts I haven't checked?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oILobzYoZLlx-NFgPxiGlWuc0ew70D0O8Pg4LAfW5K8=w369-h655-no)

The S.S.S.S. thread looks WRONG. All the thread options are jammed on one side! And I can't tell if there are any new posts like in the computer version.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0K6kwuqRA6ZvJPmN06WayVZDrs0eF5RUnCHvY-92NWA=w369-h655-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9Oh7CPXcEnOiVDimNPJ529Tth7cXqKDLFRsA0ljV9qk=w369-h655-no)

There aren't any pictures to go with user accounts anymore!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XvNhEnT0myx5SAXffHzTZYcNENc83PvcoglkeD5PTvQ=w369-h655-no)

How do I reply to a topic? I CAN'T, THERE IS NO BUTTON ANYMORE

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YA8aPw2sd63VFim6BklirVxA2OY1pkGWsEs7cq6VffU=w369-h655-no)

HELP GUYS I'M FREAKING OUT

I
NEED
MY
MOBILE
UPPPDDAAATTTEEESSS!!!

*clutches knees and rocks in the corner*
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 06, 2015, 06:22:20 AM
Replied here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=10.msg49255#msg49255). :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on July 06, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
Replied here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=10.msg49255#msg49255). :)

Thanks for that, it works great now!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on July 07, 2015, 12:41:36 AM
So it seems like most people are in favor of making a self-insert sub-board, do the mods wants to make a final decision on this?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Viisikielinenkantele on July 07, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
This is something that was apparent in the last few day on my tablet computer: the forum looks greyed out and the script is really tiny so that I am zooming in every time I want to read something. Does this have to do with the mobile version or is this something else?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eich on July 07, 2015, 09:32:52 PM
So it seems like most people are in favor of making a self-insert sub-board, do the mods wants to make a final decision on this?
People seem to be in favor of a SSSSona Child Board, so we'll go with that.
I'll go ahead and make the board, if someone can move all the SSSSona threads into it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on July 07, 2015, 11:46:44 PM
People seem to be in favor of a SSSSona Child Board, so we'll go with that.
I'll go ahead and make the board, if someone can move all the SSSSona threads into it.
I'll do that.  Done!

Thanks for building this!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 13, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
I think the forum is older than "a few months" now, so we should maybe consider removing "This will be an important board in the first few months of activity, so check in frequently, and help out if you can!"  from the Forum discussion board's description. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on July 14, 2015, 12:18:51 PM
I think the forum is older than "a few months" now, so we should maybe consider removing "This will be an important board in the first few months of activity, so check in frequently, and help out if you can!"  from the Forum discussion board's description. :)

Never! We are FOREVER YOUNG

ETA: Oh fine, I changed it. :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 17, 2015, 07:18:56 PM
I've done some tiny ninjafixes over this week, summing it up here:All fixes are live, if you don't see them do a hard refresh (Ctrl+F5, pretty much everywhere), or clean your browser's cache. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on July 17, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
I've done some tiny ninjafixes over this week, summing it up here:
  • Fixed the little border issue with the child board on the main board index. ✔
  • Made a new board index star variant, it appears when there are no new posts in the board itself but there are some in its child board: ✔
    (https://ssssforum.com/Themes/SSSSlight/images/on2.png)
  • Made the new-posts stars appear for the child board lists as well on the mobile layout. ✔
  • Gave the page numbers a solid white-ish background to aid readability/usability. ✔
All fixes are live, if you don't see them do a hard refresh (Ctrl+F5, pretty much everywhere), or clean your browser's cache. ;)

Ahh yes I noticed the solid white! :D I like it, it looks very clean! I also really like the index star variant and I saw it earlier on my phone.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on July 17, 2015, 07:41:46 PM
Made a new board index star variant, it appears when there are no new posts in the board itself but there are some in its child board
You have no idea how much that has been bothering me XD like, when the whole board was showing as unread instead of just the child board. Thank you so much!!!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Russet on July 19, 2015, 03:30:34 AM
Made a new board index star variant, it appears when there are no new posts in the board itself but there are some in its child board
Yes! Thank you for this, I spent 10 minutes the other day looking at the SSSS forum because I thought I didn't see some unread board somewhere, but it turned out to be the child board.   ;D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on July 21, 2015, 09:16:47 AM
On the moblie version, is it possible to get a little 1 or a different colour by the inbox icon when you receive a new PM?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on July 21, 2015, 10:19:52 AM
  • Made a new board index star variant, it appears when there are no new posts in the board itself but there are some in its child board: ✔
(It should appear in the "what do the icons mean" section of the homepage, between the list of boards and the "Info Center", shouldn't it?)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: misea on July 24, 2015, 07:55:32 PM
Hi! I was wondering if there's a way to stick quotes in a spoiler?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on July 24, 2015, 07:59:26 PM
Hi! I was wondering if there's a way to stick quotes in a spoiler?

I don't think so.  You can put spoilers within a quote, but not the other way round.  I've tried in the Shared Story thread, but it never worked.

Maybe one of our more technically minded people can find a workaround, or change the BBC code to let it work? 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on July 27, 2015, 12:48:12 PM
I'm not sure if this is a feature of SMF, but I've seen it on other forums, so I thought I would give it a shot - Is there any way to add a "preview" button to the signature-editing area? I've been messing with mine a lot and it's kind of inconvenient to have to open one of your posts to check if what you're trying to do actually came out.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on July 28, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
Is there any way to add a "preview" button to the signature-editing area? I've been messing with mine a lot and it's kind of inconvenient to have to open one of your posts to check if what you're trying to do actually came out.
Your profile (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile) (that you can directly jump to with Profile -> Summary from the menu bar) shows the "working" version of your signature, but it's still not a preview, either (i.e., you have to save the edits first) ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: hushpiper on July 28, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
I don't think so.  You can put spoilers within a quote, but not the other way round.  I've tried in the Shared Story thread, but it never worked.

Maybe one of our more technically minded people can find a workaround, or change the BBC code to let it work?

This would be similar to the issues we used to have with the youtube tags on mobile: we know about it (and the other idiosyncrasies of the spoiler tags), but it's not easy to fix, and as such will get fixed whenever we find a fix for it. So it's on the list, but there's no ETA. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 05, 2015, 08:39:05 PM
After applying the fix found here (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=494493.msg3478572#msg3478572) it strongly looks like

the search function works properly after you have logged out and logged back in!

I'm just as happy as you are. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on August 06, 2015, 05:34:30 AM
Hi, hello! Just stopping by to say that if we could ever get the mobile version to display the little catch phrases that usually appear under the avatars on computer servers, that would be something that I've just kind of been missing on the mobile version. In no hurry here, so I would just like to know, would this be something we might fix in the future?

EDIT: also it doesn't show our number of posts and the title we receive for that number of posts.

And unrelated to improvements, but something I've been wondering about: what exactly do the timestamps mean on our posts?
Because I've posted something and then checked the time posted on the thread, and it does not match the time that is displayed on my clock on my computer, my phone, or my alarm clock in my house. Is it displaying the time that would be shown if I was on nuclear time?

ie. For this post it says I last edited it at 06:12:03, but right now it's 3:13 AM in my time zone, so what does that mean?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on August 06, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
Hey is there a way we can get the new messages icon to appear on the mobile version? Because that's a really handy tool that we have available to us when we use computer servers. It's happened to me before, where I've been on a spree using only my phone to check the forum for a week, happened to pop on to a computer, and find that I have a new message notification waiting for me that I haven't responded to in more than a week. It would be very handy if we could make that something that's available on the mobile version.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 06, 2015, 06:30:07 AM
I believe the timestamps show the server's timezone by default. You can set it to your one in Profile > Modify Profile > Look and Layout.

The user titles and the stars are just hidden on the mobile version. SMF devs thought that that's not a crucial piece of information, so they hid it to make the user part of posts on mobile a bit smaller. They are really easy for me to unhide though, if the consensus is that they're required. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on August 06, 2015, 07:42:55 AM
If it's not too difficult, could there please be a way to see "unread posts" and "new replies to posts" on the mobile version?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on August 06, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
If it's not too difficult, could there please be a way to see "unread posts" and "new replies to posts" on the mobile version?
I've found a way for unread posts at least:
I know it's a bit contrived, but it's the only way I've found so far.
Alternatively, save the URL of the unread posts page as a bookmark.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on August 06, 2015, 07:29:32 PM
I've found a way for unread posts at least:
  • Click the "home" button (shaped like a house, unsurprisingly) on the dashboard at the top just below the title.
  • It'll show you the forum main board- on the title screen (which says "Topics"), to the right by the minimise button, is another title that says "Unread Posts".
  • Click it, it'll take you to the normal unread posts section.
I know it's a bit contrived, but it's the only way I've found so far.
Alternatively, save the URL of the unread posts page as a bookmark.
I only see the home button, not a minimize button or unread posts. All of my clickable options are icons.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on August 06, 2015, 07:49:58 PM
I only see the home button, not a minimize button or unread posts. All of my clickable options are icons.
Yeah, when you press the home button you should see the forum main board, showing you all the subforums?
On the top right of that main board, there's a title that says "Unread Posts". It's a link to that page.
Otherwise, the URLs for unread posts and replies are:
https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=unread
and
https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Russet on August 07, 2015, 02:20:41 AM
Hey, sorry if you guys are already working on this, or have too much on your plate to get around to this yet, but I was wondering if the Malaysian flag was going to be put up soon? No rush, of course! I just thought it might have been forgotten, or buried beneath the mountains of requests.  :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Auleliel on August 07, 2015, 06:12:32 AM
Yeah, when you press the home button you should see the forum main board, showing you all the subforums?
On the top right of that main board, there's a title that says "Unread Posts". It's a link to that page.
Otherwise, the URLs for unread posts and replies are:
https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=unread
and
https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies
It only shows up like that on my computer, not on my phone. Thanks for the links. I guess a bookmark's better than nothing.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 08, 2015, 05:27:51 AM
Hm, it looks like Eich didn't give a notice, but Malaysian flag is up! :)
:malaysia: :malaysia: :malaysia:
Code is :malaysia:

I also gave in to the temptation and replaced the Spanish flag icon with the one that belongs to the iconset the others are from. So it's fancy now and I'm happy.
:spain: :spain: :spain:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Russet on August 08, 2015, 05:30:17 AM
Hm, it looks like Eich didn't give a notice, but Malaysian flag is up! :)
:malaysia: :malaysia: :malaysia:
Code is :malaysia:
Thank you so much! It looks really rad, I'm going to slip it into my signature right away.  :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on August 08, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
Thank you so much! It looks really rad, I'm going to slip it into my signature right away.  :D

Russet, do you think the Malaysian flag is acceptable to use for the Malay language, wherever it's spoken?
I ask because it's also a national language for Indonesia, Singapore, and Brunei.

(We haven't really figured out a good solution for languages that are spoken in multiple countries, or just sections of one, like Catalan.  For Latin, we used the workaround of Vatican City.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Dane Murgen on August 08, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Russet, do you think the Malaysian flag is acceptable to use for the Malay language, wherever it's spoken?
I ask because it's also a national language for Indonesia, Singapore, and Brunei.

(We haven't really figured out a good solution for languages that are spoken in multiple countries, or just sections of one, like Catalan.  For Latin, we used the workaround of Vatican City.)

Well, after a little bit of research, I found that the deal with bahasa Indonesia and bahasa Malaysia is like the deal with Swedish, Danish and Norwegian, so I think we can safely say that Indonesian can have its own flag. Singapore has four official languages, none of which are unique to Singapore, so that's out for any language representation, unless people really want it (Tamil is an official language of Sri Lanka). The real question therefore is whether the Malaysian flag should be used for Malay spoken in Malaysia and Brunei. I don't really know the answer to this.

Anyway, is there a flag for the Philippines yet, or no?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Russet on August 08, 2015, 11:37:28 PM
Russet, do you think the Malaysian flag is acceptable to use for the Malay language, wherever it's spoken?
I ask because it's also a national language for Indonesia, Singapore, and Brunei.
I agree with Dane here, Singaporean has lots of national languages, all of which are represented by other countries (i.e. UK for English because they learn British English, China for Chinese, Malaysian for Malay, etc), so it probably isn't needed unless specifically requested. They learn standard Malay, so there isn't a noticeable difference between Malaysian Malay and Singaporean Malay.

Indonesian and Malaysian are very different languages, they probably have similar roots in language, but I can only understand about 30% of spoken Indonesian since it borrows a lot of words from local languages like Javanese, Sundanese and Minangkabau, so I definitely think there should be a different flag for Indonesia.

On the other hand, Brunei Malay is more like a Malay dialect, so when I hear Brunei Malay it's like.. a Swedish person listening to a Danish person? A lot of the words sound similar so you can understand quite a bit if it's written down or spoken very slowly. There is still a marked difference though, so maybe the Brunei flag should be put on hold until someone from Brunei speaks up on the matter.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 28, 2015, 07:26:22 AM
Sooo now I don't have to disturb Eich with smiley stuff every time. And that means... smileys!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on August 28, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
  • Added a heart emoji: <3 Code is <3
Thank ! ^^
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on August 28, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
Sooo now I don't have to disturb Eich with smiley stuff every time. And that means... smileys!
  • Added the flags of New Zealand and the Philippines, codes are :philippines: and :newzealand: respectively. :philippines: :newzealand: :philippines: :newzealand: :philippines: :newzealand:
  • Added a heart emoji: <3 Code is <3
  • Added the squirrel cookie emoji: :squirrelcookie: Code is :squirrelcookie:
  • I'm also planning to add the SSSS crew themed smileys (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=35.msg20742#msg20742), but codes need to be decided for those first, I would like to make them more specific than :lalli: :sigrun: etc., to avoid any confusion in case more SSSSmileys of the same character appeared some time in the future.

Hooooray, all the nice smilies :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on August 28, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Eee, the squirrel cookie's an emoji now!! I feel so honored <3
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on August 28, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
Sooo now I don't have to disturb Eich with smiley stuff every time. And that means... smileys!
  • Added the flags of New Zealand and the Philippines, codes are :philippines: and :newzealand: respectively. :philippines: :newzealand: :philippines: :newzealand: :philippines: :newzealand:
  • Added a heart emoji: <3 Code is <3
  • Added the squirrel cookie emoji: :squirrelcookie: Code is :squirrelcookie:
  • I'm also planning to add the SSSS crew themed smileys (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=35.msg20742#msg20742), but codes need to be decided for those first, I would like to make them more specific than :lalli: :sigrun: etc., to avoid any confusion in case more SSSSmileys of the same character appeared some time in the future.

Awww, nice!! :D I'm excited! Now I'll be able to intersperse my unicode hearts with some in color too!! <3 ♡ ♥
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on August 28, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
neato! have a cookie!
:squirrelcookie:

and also, congrats on the promotion! (I know, there's a thread for that, but who cares :sgru: )
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Adriano on August 29, 2015, 05:25:25 PM
Personnally, I love the current theme !
Especially the colours !
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sc0ut on August 30, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
I don't know this is the right place to post this (please move it if belongs somewhere else), but I was thinking: can't the reaction image hoard (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/reactionimages.php) be changed so that it doesn't load any images at first? I would much prefer to have the page load instantly and display only the menu. Then I can select the character or keyword I'm looking for, and only THEN have any images load (a shorter list, based on my search terms). The wait for all the images to load is pointless, because most people go there with something specific in mind.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on August 30, 2015, 03:14:20 PM
I don't know this is the right place to post this (please move it if belongs somewhere else), but I was thinking: can't the reaction image hoard (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/reactionimages.php) be changed so that it doesn't load any images at first?

I would much prefer to have the page load instantly and display only the menu. Then I can select the character or keyword I'm looking for, and only THEN have any images load (a shorter list, based on my search terms). The wait for all the images to load is pointless, because most people go there with something specific in mind.

I agree, I'd appreciate a quick load more than having all the images available.  My elderly, simple-minded computer (with a relatively slow Internet connection) comes to a near-standstill when I try to use the Reaction Images search.  ("Standstill," haha.  Maybe that was intentional?   ;))
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on August 30, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
I don't know this is the right place to post this (please move it if belongs somewhere else), but I was thinking: can't the reaction image hoard (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/reactionimages.php) be changed so that it doesn't load any images at first? I would much prefer to have the page load instantly and display only the menu. Then I can select the character or keyword I'm looking for, and only THEN have any images load (a shorter list, based on my search terms). The wait for all the images to load is pointless, because most people go there with something specific in mind.

I agree, I'd appreciate a quick load more than having all the images available.  My elderly, simple-minded computer (with a relatively slow Internet connection) comes to a near-standstill when I try to use the Reaction Images search.  ("Standstill," haha.  Maybe that was intentional?   ;))

Seconding (thirding?) this! It also takes a while to load with my slow wifi...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 30, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
After putting a little thought into this, I realized that this can be done much more easily than what I originally thought, sooo I've done it.
Enjoy the lower loading times. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Solovei on August 30, 2015, 03:51:30 PM
After putting a little thought into this, I realized that this can be done easier than what I originally thought, sooo I've done it.
Enjoy the lower loading times. :)
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/2daea9894c099c47465a570fc6cb4814/tumblr_inline_nlmsb11uhy1r2g2kx_500.png)
Yaaaay thanks :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sc0ut on August 30, 2015, 03:56:23 PM
After putting a little thought into this, I realized that this can be done easier than what I originally thought, sooo I've done it.
Enjoy the lower loading times. :)

(http://i.imgur.com/GAfOGcI.png)

Eriaror, you beautiful magical beast! Thank you!
now watch as the entire forum devolves into "conversations" based on reaction images entirely
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on August 30, 2015, 04:04:12 PM
now watch as the entire forum devolves into "conversations" based on reaction images entirely
I did it before it was cool
(http://i.imgur.com/f35jOC1.png)
only tru 90s kids will remember my early days on the forum

no but seriously, thank you yet again for the good work, Eriaror!!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 30, 2015, 05:17:40 PM
As always, thanks for all the nice words, it really was just a little modification... things like this is why you should keep suggesting things.
I may have my little way too long list of projects I'm doing, but I cannot really guess what is the most important thing at any moment for you guys. But if you suggest it, I can jump on that specific problem right away, and hopefully get it done real fast. ;)

now watch as the entire forum devolves into "conversations" based on reaction images entirely
(http://i.imgur.com/yl6uM0x.jpg?1)
MY GREATEST FEAR MAY COME TRUE
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Yuuago on August 30, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
After putting a little thought into this, I realized that this can be done much more easily than what I originally thought, sooo I've done it.
Enjoy the lower loading times. :)

You are amazing. Thanks for fixing it! (And I'm glad that it was easy for you to do.)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: OrigamiOwl on September 08, 2015, 07:33:58 PM
Spoiler: ye olde poste • show
Um. Ummmmmmmmm..... Maybe this is just a one-off mobile thing..but it doesn't change when I refresh or totally reload the page.

(http://i.imgur.com/e9jJuQG.png)

But the General Discussion Board...vanished? Have I missed something...I missed something didn't I <__<


EDIT: OHHHhhhhhh I KNOW NOW! XD Carry on! u__ub
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on September 08, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
Um. Ummmmmmmmm..... Maybe this is just a one-off mobile thing..but it doesn't change when I refresh or totally reload the page.

(http://i.imgur.com/e9jJuQG.png)

But the General Discussion Board...vanished? Have I missed something...I missed something didn't I <__<

This is actually a new thing. You can't view the general discussion board if you're not logged in (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=590.msg64551#msg64551) :0
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: OrigamiOwl on September 08, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
This is actually a new thing. You can't view the general discussion board if you're not logged in (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=590.msg64551#msg64551) :0
hahah thanks! XD I just checked the other thread and found out! Phew! I thought my internet was broken or something
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 10, 2015, 05:36:49 PM
I noticed a (short-lived) display problem in a post Piney made to the Introduction Thread.

Her links to the squirrel-cookie emojis, hosted by Google, didn't go through.  So instead of the usual icons, we saw this:

(http://i.imgur.com/1qd4TX6.png)

It looks fine now, 30 minutes later.  Something we need to be concerned about, or just a temporary glitch?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on September 10, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
I noticed a (short-lived) display problem in a post Piney made to the Introduction Thread.

Her links to the squirrel-cookie emojis, hosted by Google, didn't go through.  So instead of the usual icons, we saw this:

It looks fine now, 30 minutes later.  Something we need to be concerned about, or just a temporary glitch?

Nah, that was me forgetting to put the [ img ] tag in. I was using the picture URL so I could use superscript and subscript.
I was hoping no one would notice it...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: OrigamiOwl on September 10, 2015, 09:20:15 PM
Spoiler: show
Ok...not sure if I've missed something again...but my laptop is only displaying what looks like the mobile version of the Forum and it's really creepy o__o It's like the mobile version...but... computer screen sized and it's really weird and huge
Like, the text in the post I'm currently typing's height is about the width of 1 1/2 cursors, and the header logo is taking up the near-entire width of the screen and over a third of the screen height-wise.....

is there......anything going....on...?


EDIT: I worked it out u___u somehoW everything got zoomed in...but...I didnt even touch anything so how?? ;__; But it's all cool now
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 11, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
EDIT: I worked it out u___u somehoW everything got zoomed in...but...I didnt even touch anything so how?? ;__; But it's all cool now
Many browsers take Ctrl-"+" as a keystroke to zoom into the current page (and Ctrl-"-" to zoom out), which is obscure, but not entirely impossible to hit by accident. You might want to memorize Ctrl-"0" as the key combo that resets the zoom level to the default.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on September 16, 2015, 08:20:29 PM
I know there was a discussion about this before, but I would really appreciate a third gender option for gender-neutral/nonbinary in the profile. Even with they/them written in my signature I still get misgendered a lot and it would be nice to have something official other than just N/A, which could be interpreted as "I don't want to put this information out on the internet" instead of "I'm not a boy or a girl and would appreciate you referring to me as such".
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: videovance on September 16, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
I know there was a discussion about this before, but I would really appreciate a third gender option for gender-neutral/nonbinary in the profile. Even with they/them written in my signature I still get misgendered a lot and it would be nice to have something official other than just N/A, which could be interpreted as "I don't want to put this information out on the internet" instead of "I'm not a boy or a girl and would appreciate you referring to me as such".

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/fb623f7c2d5c32c5079fd08efdaaca16/tumblr_inline_nlgu84bZU31r2g2kx_500.png)

I completely, 100% agree!! I would love to have this option! ;w;
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ana Nymus on September 16, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
I know there was a discussion about this before, but I would really appreciate a third gender option for gender-neutral/nonbinary in the profile. Even with they/them written in my signature I still get misgendered a lot and it would be nice to have something official other than just N/A, which could be interpreted as "I don't want to put this information out on the internet" instead of "I'm not a boy or a girl and would appreciate you referring to me as such".

I wouldn't be one to use such an option, but I think we should have it too. The other day I was actually wondering why it wasn't already there.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on September 16, 2015, 09:40:17 PM
I wouldn't be one to use such an option, but I think we should have it too. The other day I was actually wondering why it wasn't already there.
yeah it was shot down becuase "it's not such a big deal"...................... but hopefully there will be a change of heart ^_________^
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ana Nymus on September 16, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
yeah it was shot down becuase "it's not such a big deal"...................... but hopefully there will be a change of heart ^_________^

But it kind of is a big deal. At least for some forumites, this is the only place they can express their genders freely, and in my mind, that's a perfectly important reason to include a third option.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on September 17, 2015, 04:25:13 PM
I know there was a discussion about this before, but I would really appreciate a third gender option for gender-neutral/nonbinary in the profile. Even with they/them written in my signature I still get misgendered a lot and it would be nice to have something official other than just N/A, which could be interpreted as "I don't want to put this information out on the internet" instead of "I'm not a boy or a girl and would appreciate you referring to me as such".
Wellll. I've looked a bit into this, and at first sight, the Gender field – being a standard profile field – looks somewhat/pretty much/greatly (further investigation is needed to determine amount) tangled into SMF's inner workings. Sadly that means that adding that third option requires us to find a mod that adds this feature, or modify SMF source files ourselves.
By fumbling around, I've managed to find about 2-3 places in the code that possibly need to be slightly changed, and I'm far from sure that doing that would do the trick without wrecking anything, sooo I'll need to test things and mess around more and so on.
And even if I found a solution, the very act of messing around this much under the hood is slightly risky, so I'm not sure it'd get put in after all. Probably we'll talk about this and then notify you all when we come to a solution/conclusion. :)

(Regardless of how things get sorted out, I can offer making a Preferred pronouns field, that's just a few clicks. ;) )
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 17, 2015, 05:15:53 PM
I know there was a discussion about this before, but I would really appreciate a third gender option for gender-neutral/nonbinary in the profile. Even with they/them written in my signature I still get misgendered a lot and it would be nice to have something official other than just N/A, which could be interpreted as "I don't want to put this information out on the internet" instead of "I'm not a boy or a girl and would appreciate you referring to me as such".

I'm with you on the request, Curry (and kudos to Eriaror for getting his hands dirty with SMF code while searching for a solution). 

What specifically should that third gender option say?  "Other"? "Neither"?  I realize those might sound kind of dismissive or blah, but "Gender-neutral" might be a bit long.  Also, given the tiny bit I've learned about gender issues, "gender-*neutral*" might not be the right term if some people think of their gender not as *neither* female nor male, but *both* -- or some other third option, I suppose. 

(I'm old enough to remember when people were still fussing about adding "Ms." to the menu of titles that used to include Mr., Mrs., Miss, and Dr.  I freely admit I'm not up-to-date on current gender issues, but hopefully those of you who are can weigh in on the most correct and concise term for our future third option.)

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on September 17, 2015, 05:28:20 PM
What specifically should that third gender option say?  "Other"? "Neither"?  I realize those might sound kind of dismissive or blah, but "Gender-neutral" might be a bit long.  Also, given the tiny bit I've learned about gender issues, "gender-*neutral*" might not be the right term if some people think of their gender not as *neither* female nor male, but *both* -- or some other third option, I suppose. 
I suggest "non-binary", although "other" works well enough. "neither" doesn't really fit because there are some people who are literally both
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: videovance on September 17, 2015, 09:24:02 PM
I suggest "non-binary", although "other" works well enough. "neither" doesn't really fit because there are some people who are literally both
I personally vote for "other", but "non-binary" is good ;w; (Definitely not "neither", like Haiz said. That would only work for agender people, I think?)

(Regardless of how things get sorted out, I can offer making a Preferred pronouns field, that's just a few clicks. ;) )
1) Thank you so much for looking into it!
2) A preferred pronouns field would be absolutely AMAZING ;W;
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Curry on September 17, 2015, 09:40:17 PM
Wellll. I've looked a bit into this, and at first sight, the Gender field – being a standard profile field – looks somewhat/pretty much/greatly (further investigation is needed to determine amount) tangled into SMF's inner workings. Sadly that means that adding that third option requires us to find a mod that adds this feature, or modify SMF source files ourselves.
By fumbling around, I've managed to find about 2-3 places in the code that possibly need to be slightly changed, and I'm far from sure that doing that would do the trick without wrecking anything, sooo I'll need to test things and mess around more and so on.
And even if I found a solution, the very act of messing around this much under the hood is slightly risky, so I'm not sure it'd get put in after all. Probably we'll talk about this and then notify you all when we come to a solution/conclusion. :)

(Regardless of how things get sorted out, I can offer making a Preferred pronouns field, that's just a few clicks. ;) )

Thank you so much for looking into this! I would really appreciate a preferred pronouns field. That would make things so official-feeling and I'd be ridiculously grateful :w;;

What specifically should that third gender option say?  "Other"? "Neither"?  I realize those might sound kind of dismissive or blah, but "Gender-neutral" might be a bit long.  Also, given the tiny bit I've learned about gender issues, "gender-*neutral*" might not be the right term if some people think of their gender not as *neither* female nor male, but *both* -- or some other third option, I suppose. 

Nonbinary/other would encompass pretty much any other genders out there :0
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on September 18, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
(Regardless of how things get sorted out, I can offer making a Preferred pronouns field, that's just a few clicks. ;) )
If that's so much easier, how about nailing down the existing gender selector to "unset" (just somehow suppress the other two values for selection in the editing <FORM>) and introducing an entirely new "gender" field?

(Can't say that I ever noticed my selection having an effect anywhere but in the editing window, but then again, there's a bunch of features I don't use ... ?)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 18, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
If that's so much easier, how about nailing down the existing gender selector to "unset" (just somehow suppress the other two values for selection in the editing <FORM>) and introducing an entirely new "gender" field?

(Can't say that I ever noticed my selection having an effect anywhere but in the editing window, but then again, there's a bunch of features I don't use ... ?)

Ohhh.  There's an interesting idea!  Eich, Eri, Hush... any idea if that might work?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on September 18, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
If that's so much easier, how about nailing down the existing gender selector to "unset" (just somehow suppress the other two values for selection in the editing <FORM>) and introducing an entirely new "gender" field?

(Can't say that I ever noticed my selection having an effect anywhere but in the editing window, but then again, there's a bunch of features I don't use ... ?)

I have thought of that, it's fully doable. The drawback is that the "real" Gender field is indeed hooked up to things across SMF, for example the Female-to-Male ratio thing in Stats. Those things may not work if I deactivate that field.

Also, I'm getting closer to untangling this thing, so we'll probably be able to solve it both ways. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on September 20, 2015, 12:17:05 PM
Got reminded by Auleliel for the umpteenth time that there should be buttons for the Unread posts and Unread replies functions on mobile as well, except this time I've actually done it. ::)

Apologies for taking this long!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on September 20, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
Got reminded by Auleliel for the umpteenth time that there should be buttons for the Unread posts and Unread replies functions on mobile as well, except this time I've actually done it. ::)

Apologies for taking this long!

*tackle hugs* THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU I'm totally not addicted totally not hahahaha
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on September 20, 2015, 01:27:12 PM
Got reminded by Auleliel for the umpteenth time that there should be buttons for the Unread posts and Unread replies functions on mobile as well, except this time I've actually done it. ::)

Apologies for taking this long!

Yayyy, thank you! It's kind of what had been bugging me most about using the new theme :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on September 22, 2015, 02:24:06 AM
Congrats to the recently promoted!! \o/ This thread really needs a confetti button ;)

Ohhhh Eriaror...  If Forum-Thor approves, can you bestow this gift on the Promotion Celebrations thread?  (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=487.0) Pretty please?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on September 25, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Because I'm lazy to do actual important stuff, I'm fixing little annoyances I stumble upon. Today, message icons. :DPS.: We probably won't have much more message icons than these, I only want to add ones that the forum's really lacking.
P.PS.: I'm not fully satisfied with my icon making skills, so feel free to submit improved versions... ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: theamynator on September 29, 2015, 02:08:14 AM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but can anyone tell me how to change my username? The username I log in with, I mean. It's different from my screen name and I keep forgetting what it is. :-\
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on September 29, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but can anyone tell me how to change my username? The username I log in with, I mean. It's different from my screen name and I keep forgetting what it is. :-\

If smf is anything like most other forum templates you'll need an admin (Eich, hush or Eriaror) to change that for you.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on October 08, 2015, 08:02:46 AM
Really not a pressing issue but... will there be a Swiss flag emoticon thing? Please? Would be really nice to have it ^^'
*stuffs national pride back into the box of shame*
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on October 08, 2015, 08:43:31 AM
Really not a pressing issue but... will there be a Swiss flag emoticon thing? Please? Would be really nice to have it ^^'
*stuffs national pride back into the box of shame*
Swiss flag is up! :) Code is :switzerland:
:switzerland: :switzerland: :switzerland:


Don't be afraid to request flags, only laziness prevents me from adding all two hundred something of them... ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on October 08, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Swiss flag is up! :) Code is :switzerland:
:switzerland: :switzerland: :switzerland:


Don't be afraid to request flags, only laziness prevents me from adding all two hundred something of them... ;)

I LOVE YOU <3 :switzerland: YOU EVEN MADE IT SQUARE LIKE ASDFGHJKJHG THANK YOU <3 :switzerland: <3 :switzerland: <3 :switzerland:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on October 08, 2015, 09:00:04 AM
so if I shrink it to this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/35/20091011225157!Flag_of_Kurdistan.svg) might that work? though it does not look too nice.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/35/20091011225157!Flag_of_Kurdistan.svg)  looks better

Eeeeeeeri, you know what I would like to see up? this flag would work for kurmanji and sorani kurdish :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on October 08, 2015, 09:37:40 AM
Eeeeeeeri, you know what I would like to see up? this flag would work for kurmanji and sorani kurdish :)
Kurdish flag is up. :) Code is :kurdish:
:kurdish: :kurdish: :kurdish:

EDIT: Changed the code. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on October 08, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Kurdish flag is up. :) Code is :kurdish:
:kurdish: :kurdish: :kurdish:

Thank you Eri <3

(buuuut maybe we should make the tag "kurdish" since there is no internationally accepted state of kurdisten [yet])?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ryagami on October 09, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Thank you Eri <3

(buuuut maybe we should make the tag "kurdish" since there is no internationally accepted state of kurdisten [yet])?

Well, all other flags are :place/country:, not :language:. You could think of Kurdistan as a place, not a state. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on October 09, 2015, 05:41:40 PM
Well, all other flags are :place/country:, not :language:. You could think of Kurdistan as a place, not a state. :)

Discussing it will go too far here. Let's say I had to prevent some fights in my class room about that matter, to call it a language rather than a place is safer.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on October 26, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
A flag for Catalan language would be nice. Either that of the autonomous community of Catalonia, or that or Andorra?

Thank you in advance.

Edit: flag of Catalonia (https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/famfamfam_flag_icons/catalonia.png), flag of Andorra (https://cdn3.iconfinder.com/data/icons/finalflags/16/Andorra-Flag.png), both free of use.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: ParanormalAndroid on October 26, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
By the way, I noticed that frenci (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=482) wants a Slovenian flag  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Slovenia) signature-image-thing- when you're free, Eri?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on October 26, 2015, 02:28:55 PM
Out of the ressource given, Eri here is the flag to be made into an icon:

(http://i.imgur.com/ljGWPgq.png)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on October 26, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
Catalan and Slovenian flags are up! :)
Codes are :catalonia: and :slovenia: respectively.
:catalonia: :slovenia: :catalonia: :slovenia: :catalonia: :slovenia:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on October 26, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on October 27, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
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Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on October 27, 2015, 06:53:52 PM


Haha, pretty soon we can present the whole cast of "Scandinavia and the World"...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on October 28, 2015, 05:17:30 AM
Haha, pretty soon we can present the whole cast of "Scandinavia and the World"...

it might be a bit spammy if typing :satw: puts up a bunch of flags in your post, though
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 16, 2015, 08:29:33 PM
Suggest anything that might need improving or snazzing up of any kind.  Different from bugs and fixes in that these aren't very important  :P

Here is what different staff groups can and can't do:

What a skald can do:
* Split threads into new topics
* Name new threads resulting from thread-splitting
* Edit any calendar event
* Merge threads
* Move threads to different boards.


What a skald can't do:
* Change or delete anyone's individual post
* Delete, lock, or unlock threads
* Sticky threads
* Add holidays to the calendar
* See or deal with anyone's PMs
* Ban/delete users
* Do major technical fixes

Skalds:
Curry (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=480)
Para (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=692)



What a moderator can do:
* Everything a skald can do
* Lock/unlock topics
* Sticky topics
* Delete posts
* Ban/delete users
* Issue warnings to users


What a moderator can't do:
* (Anything technical)
* Add holidays to the calendar
* Add those little country flags (or any kind of imagery)
* Work with bugs/downtime/whatever
* Change the news up there
* See or deal with anyone's PMs

Moderators:
Kjeks (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=144)



What an admin can do:
* Everything a mod can do
* Create new boards
* Make things visible/invisible to guests
* Add flags/smileys
* Change the news up there
* Change your login username (not the display name, you can change this on your own in your profile)
* Technical things
* Add/remove holidays to the calendar
* Edit forum site code
* Database stuff

What an admin can't do:
* This mostly depends on the admin and what their coding abilities, etc. are

Admins:
Sunflower (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8)
Hushpiper (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=251)
Eriaror (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=635)
Feartheviolas (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=646)

I've updated the list of staff abilities in the OP of this topic so they are more current.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on November 17, 2015, 01:14:37 PM
Small but useful thing:
Instead of just a [1], there is now a fancy and a lot more noticeable little bubble displaying your unread PM count in the main menu, which also works on mobile!
(http://i.snag.gy/FrEEL.jpg)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 17, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
Small but useful thing:
Instead of just a [1], there is now a fancy and a lot more noticeable little bubble displaying your unread PM count in the main menu, which also works on mobile!
(http://i.snag.gy/FrEEL.jpg)

YAAAAAAAY! This is so useful on mobile :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on November 17, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
Small but useful thing:
Instead of just a [1], there is now a fancy and a lot more noticeable little bubble displaying your unread PM count in the main menu, which also works on mobile!
(http://i.snag.gy/FrEEL.jpg)
I saw it and found it better, thank :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 17, 2015, 04:47:29 PM
that is indeed better! thank you!!

may I be so bold as to request two tiny improvements?
1- adding the possibility to indicate why a comment was edited (so it would read "last edited DateTime: Reason" instead of "last edited DateTime" actually I thought the forum told us when messages had been edited, but apparently not so forget that.
2- in the Voting Links page (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/voting.html), making it so that clicking outside of the vote-reward pic also closes it, and not only the little cross in the top-right corner ('s just ergonomics really)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 17, 2015, 05:08:53 PM
that is indeed better! thank you!!

may I be so bold as to request two tiny improvements?
1- adding the possibility to indicate why a comment was edited (so it would read "last edited DateTime: Reason" instead of "last edited DateTime" actually I thought the forum told us when messages had been edited, but apparently not so forget that.

The forum does say when you edit your message last. If I went into your post and said something there it would say something like « Last Edit: November 16, 2015, 09:20:06 PM by Feartheviolas »
example: https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=16.msg78515#msg78515

The only reason it wouldn't say that is if you edit within (if I remember correctly) 90 or so seconds of posting because of a buffer setting somewhere in the deep labyrinth of the forum settings that allows you to change without time stamping it for some strange reason. I think it has to do with the fact that we can actually disallow post edits all together.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by a reason thing. Can you elaborate? (Edit: Hee look there is the edit thing down there)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on November 17, 2015, 06:27:02 PM
Small but useful thing:
Instead of just a [1], there is now a fancy and a lot more noticeable little bubble displaying your unread PM count in the main menu, which also works on mobile!
(http://i.snag.gy/FrEEL.jpg)

Looks great, Eri!
(I wish someone would PM me so I can see it in action...)

Thanks to everyone who participated in the live testing -- I am highly gratified and can report that Eri's feature works perfectly.  It erases my one source of dissatisfaction with the mobile site -- it didn't indicate whether you had PMs.

Thanks to our Ilmarinen!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 18, 2015, 04:38:38 AM
The only reason it wouldn't say that is if you edit within (if I remember correctly) 90 or so seconds of posting because of a buffer setting somewhere in the deep labyrinth of the forum settings that allows you to change without time stamping it for some strange reason. I think it has to do with the fact that we can actually disallow post edits all together.

aaah that's why when I checked with the last think I knew was edited it didn't appear!

I meant I'd like the possibility to have the "last edit line say"
« Last Edit: Today at 00:00:0 AM by P__ : I edited because the links were wrong»
it's easily indicated by hand within the post, though, so it's not all that important
Title: Labeling Sent PMs
Post by: Sunflower on November 20, 2015, 10:55:17 PM
Hello, fellow admins, mods, and various forum-deities.

I was organizing my large stash of PMs this evening and realized this Forum lacks a function: 

It lets us label *received* PMs into folders of choice.  (See screenshot.)  However, I can't label *sent* messages; the yellow-circled menu doesn't appear when I look at my Sent PMs.  This is especially problematic for me because I like to organize my PMs by threads, rather than as individual messages (in which case I'd have 3-4 times as many).  So any conversations where I was the last to reply count as "sent" messages that I therefore can't label, regardless of who started the conversation. 

Is it possible to update the Forum software so that *sent* PMs can be organized by label just like *received* ones?  Or maybe it's already possible and I just didn't realize it?

(http://i.imgur.com/WNzm278.png)

Yours for better informatics,

Sunflower
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 21, 2015, 12:18:40 AM
Hello, fellow admins, mods, and various forum-deities.

I was organizing my large stash of PMs this evening and realized this Forum lacks a function: 

It lets us label *received* PMs into folders of choice.  (See screenshot.)  However, I can't label *sent* messages; the yellow-circled menu doesn't appear when I look at my Sent PMs.  This is especially problematic for me because I like to organize my PMs by threads, rather than as individual messages (in which case I'd have 3-4 times as many).  So any conversations where I was the last to reply count as "sent" messages that I therefore can't label, regardless of who started the conversation. 

Is it possible to update the Forum software so that *sent* PMs can be organized by label just like *received* ones?  Or maybe it's already possible and I just didn't realize it?

(http://i.imgur.com/WNzm278.png)

Yours for better informatics,

Sunflower

Poking around under the hood I've figured out how to change the subjects of PMs. I've also figured out how to recover PMs that you've sent given that the receiver hasn't deleted them. However, I don't know how to make this feature accessible without going in the back way.

As for categories, the way the forum stores the categories is strange. It stores them as recipient's labels in the PM recipient table. Because you are not receiving the PMs, the forum doesn't consider you as able to create a label for it. It only stores the label data with messages you get from someone else. Does that make any sense? I hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on November 21, 2015, 01:27:03 AM
Poking around under the hood I've figured out how to change the subjects of PMs. I've also figured out how to recover PMs that you've sent given that the receiver hasn't deleted them. However, I don't know how to make this feature accessible without going in the back way.

As for categories, the way the forum stores the categories is strange. It stores them as recipient's labels in the PM recipient table. Because you are not receiving the PMs, the forum doesn't consider you as able to create a label for it. It only stores the label data with messages you get from someone else. Does that make any sense? I hope that makes sense.

It absolutely makes sense, and thanks! 

That is, *your explanation* makes sense.  I think it's stupid of Simple Machines Forum to not allow the labeling of sent messages, but they didn't ask me...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on November 22, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
Continuing with small things~:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Fimbulvarg on November 22, 2015, 03:08:52 PM
(https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_admin.png)
(https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_mod.png)
(https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_skald.png)

Wouldn't want anyone to question their authoritah  8)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on November 22, 2015, 04:18:45 PM
Wouldn't want anyone to question their authoritah  8)
(http://i.imgur.com/R5felwF.png)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on November 22, 2015, 04:37:23 PM
Continuing with small things~:
  • Fixed the night mode background on mobile, now it's nice and black-ish, just as on desktop.
  • Redone the stars (the little squares) of staff members. SMF doesn't let you specify the star by one usergroup and the star count by another, so admins having 5 or 6 stars didn't really mean anything anyway. Now, we have one star with a label:

    (https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_admin.png)
    (https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_mod.png)
    (https://ssssforum.com/Themes/default/images/english/star_title_skald.png)

This is great!  Thanks for getting rid of those excess squares, Eriaror. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unwary on November 29, 2015, 12:41:08 PM
So I have been playing around with the forum's dark theme, the one accessed by the little moon in the upper right corner.
I though it might be nice to use some SSSS specific art, and I thought that the art from page 158.
http://sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=158
I would leave the composition up to the person who implements it, but use it as the main background image like the bridge shot on the main theme, and something else to replace the cast up in the upper right corner?
As it is scout mode then maybe panel 2 or three from 391
http://sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=391
(Not sure how to count the flashback transition panel.)
Very low priority thing but I thought I would suggest it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on December 03, 2015, 05:58:01 PM
The Forum FAQ are now live in the help section (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=help)!

I am a tiny bit excited because it's the first time I've ever coded something onto the forum

Edit: I know the links from the FAQ to other places on the forum don't work, I'm working on it
Aaaaaaaaand urls are fixed \o/
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ana Nymus on December 03, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
The Forum FAQ are now live in the help section (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?action=help)!

I am a tiny bit excited because it's the first time I've ever coded something onto the forum

Edit: I know the links from the FAQ to other places on the forum don't work, I'm working on it
Aaaaaaaaand urls are fixed \o/

This is awesome! And it'll be a lot of help for newbies. Thanks Vi!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Adriano on December 08, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
Thank you for all those improvs guys :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on January 07, 2016, 01:26:42 PM
Hi-o! I was set here fro the art thread, just wanted to put in my petition to have the maximum pixel limit increased to 800 for any images posted here, with my case being that may small details on larger pieces are lost and lose their dramatic impact on an image that is far smaller than its original design. Thanks!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on January 07, 2016, 03:09:24 PM
Hi-o! I was set here fro the art thread, just wanted to put in my petition to have the maximum pixel limit increased to 800 for any images posted here, with my case being that may small details on larger pieces are lost and lose their dramatic impact on an image that is far smaller than its original design. Thanks!

I can raise it to 800px.

Making it much larger than that tends to crash people's computers (for those who have older computers), and it tends to display only a small corner of the picture on phones unless you scroll all around. You can still see the picture in full size on computer if you click on it after you've posted it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on January 18, 2016, 01:43:22 PM
We got a new childboard. You can now share your oppinions on rules with us, pull requests or suggest changes.

Come and look! (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?board=9.0)

Best thing, this board will let you post under cover, but please read the rules (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=774.0) before posting your ideas and thoughts.

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Asterales on January 23, 2016, 03:26:17 AM
I was wondering if it should be possible to leave a placeholder post, when threads get separated and some of the comments move to the new thread.
Something along the lines of. "Posts have been moved to thread 'xy'" with a link to the thread/post in the thread?
Just to make the remaining conversation in the original thread less confusing?
Also, maybe a notice to the writers of the post(s) so they don't think it became deleted, if they haven't dropped in for some time?
Just some ideas. My apologies if this already is in place!

I also wanted to commend you on making the new child board :)
It might become useful at one point and surely increases the general feeling of security on the forum.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on January 23, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
I was wondering if it should be possible to leave a placeholder post, when threads get separated and some of the comments move to the new thread.
Something along the lines of. "Posts have been moved to thread 'xy'" with a link to the thread/post in the thread?
Just to make the remaining conversation in the original thread less confusing?
Also, maybe a notice to the writers of the post(s) so they don't think it became deleted, if they haven't dropped in for some time?
Just some ideas. My apologies if this already is in place!

I also wanted to commend you on making the new child board :)
It might become useful at one point and surely increases the general feeling of security on the forum.

We usually let people know before threads are changed, such as leaving a note for permission from those partipating in the thread to change it and explaining how we are going to change it.

We can also totally do what you suggested. I know it happens sometimes, but not uniformly, and we can get better at that :)

I'm glad you like the new child board!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: IKEA on February 21, 2016, 08:00:45 PM
I think that there should be an option to switch to the desktop version of the site when on mobile. The mobile version works great, you guys have done a really nice job with it, but I sometimes like to see members' postcounts, ranks etc. without having to go to each individual profile. (Or, ya know, I could just get on my laptop... :))
Also, it would be nice if there was some sort of mouseover text for the  buttons in the "post reply" box. As handy as the little icons are, they're not always clear. (For instance, the red brackets with the cursor).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on February 21, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
Also, it would be nice if there was some sort of mouseover text for the  buttons in the "post reply" box. As handy as the little icons are, they're not always clear. (For instance, the red brackets with the cursor).

The buttons do have mouseover text

(http://i.imgur.com/28vWyWH.png)

(the cellphone theme is Eriaror's so I'll let him address that part)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: IKEA on February 21, 2016, 08:26:50 PM
The buttons do have mouseover text
Oh yeah I see it now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on February 22, 2016, 11:47:05 AM
I think that there should be an option to switch to the desktop version of the site when on mobile. The mobile version works great, you guys have done a really nice job with it, but I sometimes like to see members' post counts, ranks etc. without having to go to each individual profile. (Or, ya know, I could just get on my laptop... :))

Spoiler: Unnecessary rant • show
I'd like to avoid having to do a "Switch to desktop version" button at almost all costs, because
a) we can't easily do it. The SMF mod we use to give responsiveness to the site relies on CSS to decide which layout to use based on the width of the display, not some kind of mobile-desktop-browser-detection-stuff dark magic that was usual before this could be solved with CSS. So we'd have to find a way around all this to make such button work. And, more importantly:
b) it'd be a step in the completely wrong direction. The world of making webpages is going more and more mobile first and mind the desktop version only after the mobile one is done. So that's what I am intending to do as well, because I find it more sensible, too.
So all in all I happily take the blame if someone says the mobile version is bad / lacks stuff / etc. and try my best to resolve it, but the solution for me is improving the mobile version, not going back to the hell that is pinch-zoom-in-out-scroll-scroll-scroll-browsing the desktop version on a tiny screen.

In this particular case, I'll put making a "Show all info" button for the userinfo part of topic displays on mobile onto the TODO list. ;)

And to everyone: For the mobile version, suggestions are even more welcome! I, personally, use that one far less, so I have less chance spotting stuff to improve there.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Rabbit on February 23, 2016, 11:29:33 AM
And to everyone: For the mobile version, suggestions are even more welcome! I, personally, use that one far less, so I have less chance spotting stuff to improve there.

*raises paw*
Personally I've never really understood the intended function of the next/previous topic buttons, I assume they're useful to someone since they exist, but at least on mobile it would be really handy if there could be next/previous page buttons of a similar size. Zooming in to hit that teeny tiny page number link gets old.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on February 27, 2016, 12:30:30 PM
This may or may not be doable, but I was wondering if the little '…' you click to show more page navigation choices could be turned into, like a page-range (1-10, 1-30, 1-50, 1-100 or the like) drop down menu on the bigger threads/boards for easier navigation when you want to get to, for example, page 500 of 1000?

Sorry if this opens a huge can of worms for you.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 06, 2016, 08:55:45 AM
Some little things:
Previous-next page buttons: I'll look around! ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on March 07, 2016, 11:53:00 PM
Personally I've never really understood the intended function of the next/previous topic buttons, I assume they're useful to someone since they exist, but at least on mobile it would be really handy if there could be next/previous page buttons of a similar size. Zooming in to hit that teeny tiny page number link gets old.

I was wondering if the little '…' you click to show more page navigation choices could be turned into, like a page-range (1-10, 1-30, 1-50, 1-100 or the like) drop down menu on the bigger threads/boards for easier navigation when you want to get to, for example, page 500 of 1000?

Sorry if this opens a huge can of worms for you.

Speaking just for myself and not as an Admin, I'd love to see both of these.  We are getting to the point where some of our more popular threads have very large page counts.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on March 13, 2016, 05:29:07 PM
Hey, would it be possible to opt out of having one's birthday displayed in the calendar while still keeping the birth date on the profile?

I don't mind/would like to have my age on my profile there for people who might be curious about that but I have a bit of a complicated relationship with my birthday being "on display" in a calendar or "publicly celebrated"...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on March 13, 2016, 05:30:43 PM
Hey, would it be possible to opt out of having one's birthday displayed in the calendar while still keeping the birth date on the profile?

I don't mind/would like to have my age on my profile there for people who might be curious about that but I have a bit of a complicated relationship with my birthday being "on display" in a calendar or "publicly celebrated"...

Yes if you take out the day and the month of your birthday but leave the year it still displays your age.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on March 13, 2016, 05:39:59 PM
Yes if you take out the day and the month of your birthday but leave the year it still displays your age.

Tried to do that, it sets it all to 0 and then gives my age as N/A.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on March 13, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
Tried to do that, it sets it all to 0 and then gives my age as N/A.

If that doesn't work then I'm not sure if you can put it without it showing on the calendar. Sorry :/
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on March 13, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
If that doesn't work then I'm not sure if you can put it without it showing on the calendar. Sorry :/

Well then :/
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Mélusine on March 13, 2016, 05:54:40 PM
If that doesn't work then I'm not sure if you can put it without it showing on the calendar. Sorry :/
It works for me. That's strange...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on March 13, 2016, 05:59:58 PM
It works for me. That's strange...

Yeah that's what kex did. Maybe if you put the month too?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on March 13, 2016, 06:04:16 PM
Yeah that's what kex did. Maybe if you put the month too?

Tried that, doesn't work either. :/
It only accepts the full date or nothing.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 13, 2016, 06:09:06 PM
I looked into it just now, doing a "Show my birthday on the calendar" checkbox seems doable, but it'd need some messing around for sure.

Aaaalso I finally stopped being lazy and made those two unread posts buttons display on desktop. (seriously, me, it was like 5 minutes and less than 10 lines of changed code... ffs...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Aki on March 13, 2016, 06:11:00 PM
I looked into it just now, doing a "Show my birthday on the calendar" checkbox seems doable, but it'd need some messing around for sure.

Thank you for looking into it ;3;
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on March 13, 2016, 06:12:41 PM
Aaaalso I finally stopped being lazy and made those two unread posts buttons display on desktop. (seriously, me, it was like 5 minutes and less than 10 lines of changed code... ffs...)

Yay, thank you for that! ^^
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Rabbit on March 15, 2016, 08:14:09 PM
Wait, since when have the personal text and pronoun etc. boxes been centered? :o
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 16, 2016, 11:20:04 AM
Wait, since when have the personal text and pronoun etc. boxes been centered? :o
Since a day or two? *looks up commit* Yes. I tried how it'd look and it kinda feels better? ...Yeah, it looks a bit nicer. For short texts, definitely. ::)

Maybe I should stop with featurecreeping, it's a bad habit...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Rabbit on March 16, 2016, 12:11:16 PM
Since a day or two? *looks up commit* Yes. I tried how it'd look and it kinda feels better? ...Yeah, it looks a bit nicer. For short texts, definitely. ::)

Maybe I should stop with featurecreeping, it's a bad habit...

Hmm, to me it feels distracting to have that one bit of centered text popping out from the left-aligned stuff, but I mostly browse on mobile anyway so I'll just take a while longer to get used to it :P

Oh, one more thing that seems to have creeped in recently, is it possible to have backgroundless png support back for icons? I liked my scoutrabbit before the white background box it has acquired in the current display...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Piney on March 16, 2016, 12:36:52 PM
Oh, one more thing that seems to have creeped in recently, is it possible to have backgroundless png support back for icons? I liked my scoutrabbit before the white background box it has acquired in the current display...

Seconding this; I use transparent avatars for everything because I like how they look without a square border.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 16, 2016, 12:41:17 PM
Oh, one more thing that seems to have creeped in recently, is it possible to have backgroundless png support back for icons? I liked my scoutrabbit before the white background box it has acquired in the current display...
I took that one down now. Story of that: I really like the look of box-shadowed avatars, but a white background avatar with box-shadow on white looks kinda off? So I gave avatars this little dimmer whiteish background color... but of course, I forgot the night mode, where that appears as glaring white. Whhhyyy do I always forget about stuff I don't use? :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on March 17, 2016, 06:52:18 PM
Whhhyyy do I always forget about stuff I don't use? :D
See, that's why the developers' personal account settings should be overwritten with random data with every page load. >:D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on March 21, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
Just another quick thought: could you add a drop-down menu to the top bar called "Thingies" with links to the Update Checker, the TWC vote thing, and/or the wiki?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unlos on May 06, 2016, 12:36:17 PM
I would love to get these guys by Curiosity included as emoticons:
I really don't want to repeat myself, but since I fixed these guys a bit, I'll put them all here.
Thank you, guys... and don't cease to provide new ideas.

Main crew: (http://i57.tinypic.com/34gm4g5.gif)     (http://i61.tinypic.com/30jtbfs.gif)     (http://i61.tinypic.com/t9id7d.gif)     (http://i58.tinypic.com/213p0ms.gif)     (http://i59.tinypic.com/2yozr52.gif)     (http://i59.tinypic.com/fxwms1.gif)

Several support characters: (http://i61.tinypic.com/2jba05x.gif)     (http://i59.tinypic.com/1907jk.gif)     (http://i61.tinypic.com/331hoqx.gif)     (http://i58.tinypic.com/2rfq1kh.gif)

Sparkles: (http://i58.tinypic.com/1692hcw.gif)     (http://i60.tinypic.com/20zenpt.gif)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Trinka on May 14, 2016, 02:35:45 AM
I would love to get these guys by Curiosity included as emoticons:

I second this motion! I'd love to have these as emoticons for obvious fandom reasons, and also because they offer a whole new range of emotions not currently available to us!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on May 14, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
ok new smiles are as follows:

Code: [Select]
:tuuri: :tuuri:
Code: [Select]
:sigrun: :sigrun:
Code: [Select]
:mikkel: :mikkel:
Code: [Select]
:lalli: :lalli:
Code: [Select]
:emil: :emil:
Code: [Select]
:reynir: :reynir:
Code: [Select]
:siv: :siv:
Code: [Select]
:torbjorn: :torbjorn:
Code: [Select]
:onni: :onni:
Code: [Select]
:sparkle: :sparkle:
Code: [Select]
:kr: :kr:

And this adjustment:
Code: [Select]
:? for :?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ana Nymus on May 14, 2016, 10:04:48 AM
ok new smiles are as follows:

(http://i.imgur.com/ahuSBeb.gif?1)
I am going to use all of these.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Tr on May 14, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
Awesome!! Thank you!! :sparkle::emil::sparkle:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Helia on May 14, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
Cool!
But isn't this supposed to be Onni?


Code: [Select]
:taru: :taru:

Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 14, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Cool!
But isn't this supposed to be Onni?
"Dynamite" apparently being symbolized by "KR" (like the currency) instead of "TNT" or somesuch will take a little getting used to, too ... ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on May 14, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
\o/

For ease of use, would it be possible to have these above the textbox? A little drop-down list to allow us to choose between standard smiles, ssss-special and any others we have would be favourite :))
Anyway, yay!
:dynamite::torbjorn::dynamite:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on May 14, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
Cool!
But isn't this supposed to be Onni?


I wasn't sure if it was Onni or Taru. I can change it though.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Unlos on May 19, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Yay new emoticons, thank you!
Cool!
But isn't this supposed to be Onni?

The expression strongly suggests Onni, I agree with Helia.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 19, 2016, 11:57:55 AM
It most certainly is Onni, I changed the code to :onni:
Whoops. :torbjorn:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: urbicande on May 19, 2016, 03:36:16 PM
ok new smiles are as follows:

Code: [Select]
:tuuri: :tuuri:
Code: [Select]
:sigrun: :sigrun:
Code: [Select]
:mikkel: :mikkel:
Code: [Select]
:lalli: :lalli:
Code: [Select]
:emil: :emil:
Code: [Select]
:reynir: :reynir:
Code: [Select]
:siv: :siv:
Code: [Select]
:torbjorn: :torbjorn:
Code: [Select]
:onni: :onni:
Code: [Select]
:sparkle: :sparkle:
Code: [Select]
:dynamite: :dynamite:

And this adjustment:
Code: [Select]
:? for :?

I cannot tell you how much I love these.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 20, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
Sooo via neglecting learning for almost a day, I have vectorized all the default smileys! ;D
This means now they won't look horrendous while browsing the forum in night mode, and appear super awesome and crisp on your high-dpi-screen mobile!
I tried to keep them as close to their pixelated counterparts as possible, while refreshing their style to a more modern, flat look. Of course, suggestions for any improvement are much welcome.

...and now, let me go catch up on learning.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Haiz on May 20, 2016, 10:40:22 AM
omg what the new smileys are great!

also someone already said it but i feel like 'dynamite' is the wrong smiley code because kr is kroner, as in money, the dollar sign of scandinavia, not sparky boom noises
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: kjeks on May 20, 2016, 10:48:39 AM
Sooo via neglecting learning for almost a day, I have vectorized all the default smileys! ;D
This means now they won't look horrendous while browsing the forum in night mode, and appear super awesome and crisp on your high-dpi-screen mobile!
I tried to keep them as close to their pixelated counterparts as possible, while refreshing their style to a more modern, flat look. Of course, suggestions for any improvement are much welcome.

...and now, let me go catch up on learning.

You are most best eri =)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: curiosity on May 20, 2016, 02:56:43 PM
also someone already said it but i feel like 'dynamite' is the wrong smiley code because kr is kroner, as in money, the dollar sign of scandinavia, not sparky boom noises

You feel right, that one was meant to be money sparkles like those floating around Torbjörn here (http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=137).

I'm sooo glad you liked them! It brings joy into my moody life.
Thanks to everyone who made this possible!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on May 20, 2016, 09:01:23 PM
You feel right, that one was meant to be money sparkles like those floating around Torbjörn here (http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=137).

I'm sooo glad you liked them! It brings joy into my moody life.
Thanks to everyone who made this possible!

Ah ok I messed that up then. I shall go fix it!

Edit: all fixed, code is now
Code: [Select]
:kr: :kr:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: saminiemi on May 22, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
Sooo via neglecting learning for almost a day, I have vectorized all the default smileys! ;D
This means now they won't look horrendous while browsing the forum in night mode, and appear super awesome and crisp on your high-dpi-screen mobile!
I tried to keep them as close to their pixelated counterparts as possible, while refreshing their style to a more modern, flat look. Of course, suggestions for any improvement are much welcome.

...and now, let me go catch up on learning.
+1 for going .svg
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 25, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
Some tiny stuff:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Athena on May 27, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
So I was looking at the nighttime mode button, and I had an idea: When in daytime mode and switching to nighttime mode, the button appears as a crescent moon, but how about when switching from night back to day, it's a sun, or a full moon?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on May 28, 2016, 03:48:20 PM
Can we add the flag of the Arab League for people who speak/are learning Arabic? (http://i.imgur.com/TIqsuqD.png) or (http://i.imgur.com/M8Pc7Lg.png)

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on June 11, 2016, 09:39:29 AM
Can we add the flag of the Arab League for people who speak/are learning Arabic? (http://i.imgur.com/TIqsuqD.png) or (http://i.imgur.com/M8Pc7Lg.png)

Thank you in advance.
Added! Code is :arableague:
:arableague: :arableague: :arableague:

(sorry for taking so long :-[)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Hrollo on June 11, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Yeiii on August 11, 2016, 12:01:20 AM
Hi! Would it be possible to add the Chilean flag?? Please oh pleease!
Thaanks!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on August 11, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
Hi! Would it be possible to add the Chilean flag?? Please oh pleease!
Thaanks!
Added! Code is :chile: ;)
:chile: :chile: :chile:

Also, forgot to post that I have added some new smileys this week, though you sure have discovered them:
CodeSmiley
O_oO_o
o_Oo_O
O_OO_O
XoXXoX
:3:3
:haw::haw:
The last one has the code :haw: because a phpBB forum I was on before had a similar one with this code and I couldn't think of a better one. If you can though, I can change it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Yeiii on August 11, 2016, 07:11:54 PM
Added! Code is :chile: ;)
:chile: :chile: :chile:

Also, forgot to post that I have added some new smileys this week, though you sure have discovered them:
CodeSmiley
O_oO_o
o_Oo_O
O_OO_O
XoXXoX
:3:3
:haw::haw:
The last one has the code :haw: because a phpBB forum I was on before had a similar one with this code and I couldn't think of a better one. If you can though, I can change it.

Thanks! You da best! I'll add it right away
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on August 17, 2016, 01:19:22 AM
I'm currently browsing the Forum on my iPhone (which I don't do often) and I realized the individual posts don't have dates/timestamps visible.
Is that something we can add?
Or just a quirk of the Safari mobile browser?
Timestamps are visible when you quote a post, however.

And the weird thing is that WHILE I'M POSTING all the previous posts visible under Topic Summary have dates/ times visible at the top.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on August 18, 2016, 05:16:00 AM
Can't check now (no wifi) but I remember it's the same for Firefox on Android.

Unrelated and not directly linked to the forum per se, but couldn't find the original thread... Wouldn't this be a nice time to ask artists for a new batch of vote-incentive pics, while it's still summer for many people and the back-to-school potential influx of new readers coming from TWC is about to begin?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on August 30, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
Kindly requesting that a list of emoticons (namely, those that don't show above the post-writing textbox) be added in the Important Info thread (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0) please :) or in another appropriate place
For ease of reference.

p.s.: I knew they were buried in this thread, Many of them aren't actually too far away (here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=16.msg106999#msg106999)) but there might be even more!

edit: there's also the :squirrelcookie: : squirrelcookie: the :hat: : hat: and the :betterhat: : betterhat: and possibly more

edit the 2nd: maybe adding the chapter survivor badges to the list would be cool too?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on September 03, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
Kindly requesting that a list of emoticons (namely, those that don't show above the post-writing textbox) be added in the Important Info thread (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0) please :) or in another appropriate place
For ease of reference.

p.s.: I knew they were buried in this thread, Many of them aren't actually too far away (here (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=16.msg106999#msg106999)) but there might be even more!

edit: there's also the :squirrelcookie: : squirrelcookie: the :hat: : hat: and the :betterhat: : betterhat: and possibly more

edit the 2nd: maybe adding the chapter survivor badges to the list would be cool too?
I utilized SMF's additional smiley popup feature and added all the non-flag, non-ribbon ones to it! ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Tr on September 03, 2016, 04:18:23 PM
I utilized SMF's additional smiley popup feature and added all the non-flag, non-ribbon ones to it! ;)
Oh, awesome, thank you!! (We have both a Trond emoticon. This is amazing. :trond:)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: VibratingText on September 06, 2016, 10:35:25 PM
Add flags to emoticons? (At the very least the flags featured in SSSS)

Replace the Next/Previous Topic with Next/Previous page buttons? (Dunno if this forum system will let you though; but I have never encountered a forum system that has big next/previous topic buttons and no next/previous page button)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: saminiemi on September 07, 2016, 11:28:02 PM
Replace the Next/Previous Topic with Next/Previous page buttons? (Dunno if this forum system will let you though; but I have never encountered a forum system that has big next/previous topic buttons and no next/previous page button)
I think that this is a SMF problem and can't be fixed. :( Or if our skalds do fix it, it would be a relief for gazillion of forums that use SMF.

Edit. I guess that this feature isn't part of the normal download, but users have made mods to able this feature. Don't know if they are any good or if our forum is able to go beyond vanilla setup.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ragnarok on October 21, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
Idea: Given the number of people who post before introducing, not knowing the Introduction Thread exists, maybe we should have a banner of some kind on the main page?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Krisse Kovacs on October 23, 2016, 04:40:29 AM
Idea: Given the number of people who post before introducing, not knowing the Introduction Thread exists, maybe we should have a banner of some kind on the main page?
or anyone who just joined, they get a welcome bubble popping up saying to welcome them and tell them to introduce themselves?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JacobThomsen on October 23, 2016, 06:23:36 AM
Idea: Given the number of people who post before introducing, not knowing the Introduction Thread exists, maybe we should have a banner of some kind on the main page?

or anyone who just joined, they get a welcome bubble popping up saying to welcome them and tell them to introduce themselves?

That would be a good idea. I remember that back when I first joined the forum I only knew the thread existed because I had visited the forum as a guest before, and  coincidentally noticed it.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: heiteru on October 23, 2016, 06:39:44 AM
many of RPG-forums have a system : when a person is registered - in private messages comes automatic writing, which are links to "where you should start" :?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 09, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
I know Eri had some plans for something like that. The introduction thread isn't mandatory though. Some people prefer to stick to one section of the site and not participate everywhere.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Naess on November 22, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Hello there!

Would it be possible to have a Nigerian flag added to the list of flags?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 23, 2016, 03:32:19 AM
hi hi,
I think it had been suggested a while ago, but could we have a link to the "thingies" (at least the important ones like voting links and reaction image hoard) in the navigation bar at the top? That'd be cool
edit: or just to the Thingies directory (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/), since it's there already
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 23, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
Hello there!

Would it be possible to have a Nigerian flag added to the list of flags?

Your wish is my command! :nigeria:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on November 24, 2016, 11:22:35 AM
hi hi,
I think it had been suggested a while ago, but could we have a link to the "thingies" (at least the important ones like voting links and reaction image hoard) in the navigation bar at the top? That'd be cool
edit: or just to the Thingies directory (https://ssssforum.com/thingies/), since it's there already
That is entirely doable.
Actually what I've been thinking about is a Fandom Links box on the homepage, kinda like the one on the Wiki. There we could have everything from the various other social media platforms to the update checker and the chat in one place.
Or are some of the thingies so important to access at all times that a menu option is necessary? :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on November 24, 2016, 12:35:45 PM
Actually what I've been thinking about is a Fandom Links box on the homepage, kinda like the one on the Wiki.
Excellent!
Or are some of the thingies so important to access at all times that a menu option is necessary? :)
Not really, as long as they're accessible as you've suggested. I thought of the Reaction Image Hoard (which is used for posting replies), but the fad has died down a bit I think, and not so many people use it
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: PaperArtillery on January 18, 2017, 05:20:45 PM
I don't speak Hebrew (though I did notice there's no ":israel:" flag, unless I did something wrong), but I am fairly familiar with Yiddish...any thoughts on the matter for the purpose of language indications in signatures in that regard?  It may well exist as an option but I can't seem to find a thread about the flags and whatnot anymore.  It's obviously not relevant to the comic, but just for purposes in the Language board in case someone has a question and can see that they can ask me.  Also, since it's not the language of any country per se, I can probably come up with a flag if need be (or both Hebrew and Yiddish can just use the Israeli flag).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ana Nymus on January 18, 2017, 06:30:25 PM
I don't have any suggestions for a Yiddish flag, but at the least I can redirect you to the thread with all the flags! -> https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0 (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: PaperArtillery on January 18, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
I don't have any suggestions for a Yiddish flag, but at the least I can redirect you to the thread with all the flags! -> https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0 (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0)

Thanks for that, it was driving me insane and my searches were going in circles and to "there's been an error" sort of pages.

So, that being said, I do see that Israel is in fact missing; unsure where all of those flags originated, but I think I can make one for Yiddish with a little creativity (and sensitivity, as the one that's "out there" would 1) look really stupid at small size, and 2) is kind of offensive-ish to Jews), and I can probably locate the Hebrew one unless an admin here already has all of the national flags in that size and style.  I'll go ahead and get working on it, but just let me know your thoughts.

EDIT: Or I could just be non-difficult about aesthetics and just put the word "yiddish" in my signature.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on January 20, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
unless an admin here already has all of the national flags in that size and style. 

Tadaaaaa! :israel:


I don't have any suggestions for a Yiddish flag, but at the least I can redirect you to the thread with all the flags! -> https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0 (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=416.0)

I need to update that.... ............... XD
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: PaperArtillery on January 20, 2017, 12:59:21 PM
Tadaaaaa! :israel:

Did you make all of those, or are those from another site's/stock/whatever collection?  If there's a template for that style of flag, when it comes to Yiddish, the Internet seems to have the least controversy over one that simply has "chai" ("life") on it (חי) and I'd be happy to either make one (I can try to match the style when I'm back at my desk and Photoshop, I'm out and about at the moment) or if there's a template, most basic system fonts should support Hebrew characters with ease.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on January 21, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Did you make all of those, or are those from another site's/stock/whatever collection?  If there's a template for that style of flag, when it comes to Yiddish, the Internet seems to have the least controversy over one that simply has "chai" ("life") on it (חי) and I'd be happy to either make one (I can try to match the style when I'm back at my desk and Photoshop, I'm out and about at the moment) or if there's a template, most basic system fonts should support Hebrew characters with ease.

I just have a big folder of them that I inherited from the first admin of the site. I know Eriaror sometimes made flags in the past when we didn't have them already made. Send him a PM, he might be able to give you a template or even make one for you.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: PaperArtillery on January 23, 2017, 04:32:21 PM
I can do it. There's a flag in there for "north pole" and I can just overlay it on that. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on January 23, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
I can do it. There's a flag in there for "north pole" and I can just overlay it on that. :)

Ok, once you're done, PM me and I can upload it to the site for you. That way everyone can use it :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on January 24, 2017, 12:32:00 PM
I just have a big folder of them that I inherited from the first admin of the site.
It's not like I was watching them type as they set up each and every one, but I do remember that the first ones were added out of the famfamfam icon set (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/) (I still have a download of the same on my disks).
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: PaperArtillery on January 24, 2017, 03:26:24 PM
It's not like I was watching them type as they set up each and every one, but I do remember that the first ones were added out of the famfamfam icon set (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/) (I still have a download of the same on my disks).

I do have one made for Yiddish now (:yiddish:), but thanks for the pointer in that direction, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: LooNEY_DAC on January 25, 2017, 07:50:44 AM
You've probably already got this in the works, but on the off chance you missed it:

Since Minna has migrated the devlog for the side project to its own url, I suggest adding it and (eventually) the game's url to the 'Minna's Comics' drop-down menu, which should then be retitled 'Minna's Stuff' or the like.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lazy8 on March 01, 2017, 05:35:56 AM
Since I started The Fanfiction Index (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=943.0) for the purpose of reference, I think it would do its job better if I could get it pinned - by the time I've got a new batch of updates ready, I usually have to dig it out of the second page.

I also had someone suggest starting a thingy for the same purpose - I know people are busy right now, but I'd be willing to look into getting it set up myself if someone could point me to where to go/which code to use.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on March 01, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
Since I started The Fanfiction Index (https://ssssforum.com/index.php?topic=943.0) for the purpose of reference, I think it would do its job better if I could get it pinned - by the time I've got a new batch of updates ready, I usually have to dig it out of the second page.

I also had someone suggest starting a thingy for the same purpose - I know people are busy right now, but I'd be willing to look into getting it set up myself if someone could point me to where to go/which code to use.

I can pin it, and I'll look into maybe getting it into thingies if you want.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on April 30, 2017, 11:33:18 AM
So because doing forum stuff seemed good for procrastinating on uni work today, we now have a Fandom Links box on the homepage.
If there's anything important missing, I can add it really quick now. ;)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on April 30, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
we now have a Fandom Links box on the homepage.
(You might want to recheck the URL the Wiki's link points to ...)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on April 30, 2017, 12:02:52 PM
(You might want to recheck the URL the Wiki's link points to ...)
Whoops... Fixed! :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: heiteru on April 30, 2017, 12:07:49 PM
So because doing forum stuff seemed good for procrastinating on uni work today, we now have a Fandom Links box on the homepage.
If there's anything important missing, I can add it really quick now. ;)
Yay! It's very useful and convenient! Thank you!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 18, 2017, 01:42:15 PM
So I have a little free time today and tomorrow, and decided to tackle some old pet peeves about the forum.
Today: proper page buttons! :))
They're not tiny and unclickable-without-zoom on mobile anymore! Also, there's a previous page (❰) and a next page (❱) button.

Also, is there anybody using the "Previous topic" and "Next topic" buttons? Because if they're just unnecessary clutter I'd get rid of them.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on May 19, 2017, 01:14:48 AM
So I have a little free time today and tomorrow, and decided to tackle some old pet peeves about the forum.
Today: proper page buttons! :))
They're not tiny and unclickable-without-zoom on mobile anymore! Also, there's a previous page (❰) and a next page (❱) button.

Also, is there anybody using the "Previous topic" and "Next topic" buttons? Because if they're just unnecessary clutter I'd get rid of them.

Neato!  Thanks, Eriaror!

I don't think anyone uses "Previous topic" and "Next topic," so I'm in favor of deleting them like you suggest.  But let's see if anyone speaks up for those buttons...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Athena on May 19, 2017, 01:28:30 AM
Neato!  Thanks, Eriaror!

I don't think anyone uses "Previous topic" and "Next topic," so I'm in favor of deleting them like you suggest.  But let's see if anyone speaks up for those buttons...

I'm fine with getting rid of the next/last topic buttons. Personally I don't tend to use them. Maybe the next/last page buttons could be in the same style as them, with text too instead of just a little icon? If that's possible I think it might look better.

Also I just noticed that the next/last page buttons don't show up properly on mobile, they just show as little blank squares for me.

Great idea for those next/last buttons and the proper individual buttons for page numbers is a nice touch too. Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Lazy8 on May 19, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
Those Previous Topic/Next Topic buttons are annoying... I always used to mistakenly click on them when I wanted to go to the previous or next page...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JacobThomsen on May 19, 2017, 07:20:13 AM
I'm fine with getting rid of the next/last topic buttons. Personally I don't tend to use them. Maybe the next/last page buttons could be in the same style as them, with text too instead of just a little icon? If that's possible I think it might look better.
I agree, the only time I've used the next/last topic buttons was back when I first joined and accidentally mistook them for next/last page buttons.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Keeper on May 19, 2017, 11:55:34 AM
The next page buttons show up fine on my mobile and seem to work fine too. Thanks Eri!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on May 20, 2017, 01:19:41 PM
Got rid of the Previous/Next topic buttons.

Also, added Prev/Next labels to the prev/next page buttons, and changed the icons on them to use FontAwesome, so it appears for everyone. :)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Basse on May 21, 2017, 10:04:37 AM
Got rid of the Previous/Next topic buttons.

Also, added Prev/Next labels to the prev/next page buttons, and changed the icons on them to use FontAwesome, so it appears for everyone. :)
This is great, Thanks Eri!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Noodles on May 23, 2017, 02:16:54 AM
Aw, man, I kinda liked the prev/next topic buttons. Oh well, seems like public opinion's not with me on this one :P
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 17, 2017, 04:45:49 PM
Mobile improvement asked long ago:
If you tap a post, every user field and other thing that's hidden gets displayed. ^-^

(Also avatar gets little bigger so it looks a bit more acceptable. Still could look better though.)
Enjoy! :D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on July 17, 2017, 05:22:26 PM
hurray! \o/
thanks Eri!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sunflower on July 17, 2017, 07:44:59 PM
Mobile improvement asked long ago:
If you tap a post, every user field and other thing that's hidden gets displayed. ^-^

(Also avatar gets little bigger so it looks a bit more acceptable. Still could look better though.)
Enjoy! :D

That's super -- thanks so much, Eriaror!  I'm a desktop person myself, but this'll make a big difference to a lot of Forumites. 
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ragnarok on June 12, 2018, 01:28:29 PM
For the mobile version: move the lock topic button, and stop posts from expanding when clicked upon. Currently a bunch of stuff gets displayed when you try to tap a post (even to quote it) and that usually leads to the page reloading since it's a link to that specific post. Also the lock topic button is very easy to tap accidentally while scrolling, it's happened half a dozen times in the RP currently.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sc0ut on July 20, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
I was thinking about some improvements for the voting thingie https://ssssforum.com/thingies/voting.html#

Is it possible to add more art to the "reward" pool? We have a lot of fanart now and I'm sure a) many artists will be happy to allow their art to be used here with credit and b) many minnions will enjoy seeing fanart they may not be familiar with once they vote. It seems like it could be fun and an extra incentive to vote. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on July 22, 2018, 12:44:09 AM
For the mobile version: move the lock topic button, and stop posts from expanding when clicked upon. Currently a bunch of stuff gets displayed when you try to tap a post (even to quote it) and that usually leads to the page reloading since it's a link to that specific post. Also the lock topic button is very easy to tap accidentally while scrolling, it's happened half a dozen times in the RP currently.

I was thinking about some improvements for the voting thingie https://ssssforum.com/thingies/voting.html#

Is it possible to add more art to the "reward" pool? We have a lot of fanart now and I'm sure a) many artists will be happy to allow their art to be used here with credit and b) many minnions will enjoy seeing fanart they may not be familiar with once they vote. It seems like it could be fun and an extra incentive to vote. What do you guys think?

I will look into both of these when I get home in a few weeks, I'm sorry for the delay but while I'm in Nepal I don't have much time for this.

@Sc0ut Eri had control over this, and I haven't been able to get in touch with him recently, but I will see what I can get done when I get home.

I apologize for the wait time, I promise I will look into this once I am home.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on July 22, 2018, 05:28:24 AM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag444/Fimbulvarg/toboslashn_zpsdqkautfe.png)
I'M HERE...   KIND OF

For the mobile version: move the lock topic button, and stop posts from expanding when clicked upon. Currently a bunch of stuff gets displayed when you try to tap a post (even to quote it) and that usually leads to the page reloading since it's a link to that specific post. Also the lock topic button is very easy to tap accidentally while scrolling, it's happened half a dozen times in the RP currently.
Huge apologies for leaving you with crappy UX for a year! I moved the post expanding function on mobile to a little ellipsis button next to your profile icons, tapping any other part of the post won't expand it from now on, as it should be.
About the lock topic button: could you send a screenshot? Maybe it's in the quickmod buttons (which I have turned off for myself) and that's why I'm not seeing it.

I was thinking about some improvements for the voting thingie https://ssssforum.com/thingies/voting.html#

Is it possible to add more art to the "reward" pool? We have a lot of fanart now and I'm sure a) many artists will be happy to allow their art to be used here with credit and b) many minnions will enjoy seeing fanart they may not be familiar with once they vote. It seems like it could be fun and an extra incentive to vote. What do you guys think?
Adding a reward image takes less than a minute, link me images! ^-^
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on July 23, 2018, 01:11:02 AM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag444/Fimbulvarg/toboslashn_zpsdqkautfe.png)
I'M HERE...   KIND OF

You're alive!!! *tacklehugs* Thanks so much for taking care of these.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: P__ on July 23, 2018, 04:31:43 AM
Adding a reward image takes less than a minute, link me images! ^-^
Add all the images \o/
Maybe we can do/dig up a thread to post the links to images or series of images ;)
I'm happy to contribute the Silent Senshi (AKA "Sailor Lalli and the Silent Scouts"; see my profile pic for a sample) That I colored form the lineart @Trinka made, if she's fine with it  (she also did lines for a chunk the support team)

(ETA: Hurray for tagging people in posts [edit again: didn't seem to work, did I do something wrong?]. Trinka hasn't been active in 2 years, but should be reachable elsewhere)
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Sc0ut on July 23, 2018, 08:27:13 AM
Adding a reward image takes less than a minute, link me images! ^-^

Cool! Is there a way to add a line of text to credit the author? The images currently in use are not credited.
Also, this is obviously a way to give visibility to fan artists. If anyone thinks it's problematic for us to "use" the comic in this way, speak up now before it's implemented! I think word about this should be spread in the SSSS art museum. I intend to make a post about it once we figure out if there is a possibility to credit artists.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on July 24, 2018, 03:27:41 AM
Speaking of the vote thingie, were there any changes to it? Lately, the reward image tends to pop up a split second before my browser opens the new tab to display the TWC page in, spoiling the "reward effect" somewhat ... :squirrelcookie:
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: wavewright62 on January 04, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
Speaking of the vote thingie, were there any changes to it? Lately, the reward image tends to pop up a split second before my browser opens the new tab to display the TWC page in, spoiling the "reward effect" somewhat ... :squirrelcookie:
No.  You know what, I'm going to go post something over on the main board.  I second Sc0ut's suggestion about artist credit, but perhaps in the short run, we can get teh artists to add that attribution themselves when they crop and resize the image(s) for consideration.
But before I do that: What are the general criteria for these reward images?  I tried to submit one, but it was viewed either as ginormous or unreadably tiny, so I for one would appreciate the specs for rejigging it?

I would also like to humbly request emojis of Kitty, Hannu and Ville to add to the set - dunno who made the crew emojis we have?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ragnarok on March 30, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
Umm...so what's with the new look?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Nellie McEnt on March 30, 2019, 12:31:13 PM
Oh good, I'm not the only one seeing this?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: steadfastjewel on March 30, 2019, 12:45:01 PM
suddenly...minimalism? i'm glad i'm not the only one seeing it  :))
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 30, 2019, 12:52:19 PM
This is the forum's old theme, I set it back to this one while I fix the main one I just broke, while taking off winter decorations.
The current one will be back up soon.

Sorry guys! :-[
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ragnarok on March 30, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
This is the forum's old theme, I set it back to this one while I fix the main one I just broke, while taking off winter decorations.
The current one will be back up soon.

Sorry guys! :-[

Glad to know the reason. Good luck with the fixing!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Eriaror on March 30, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
Aaand we're back.

I'm still terribly embarrassed about it, but hey it's working!
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: steadfastjewel on March 30, 2019, 03:48:50 PM
aw, no worries, Eriaror. thanks for the good work! it is much appreciated <3
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Ragnarok on July 11, 2019, 05:26:58 PM
Since Iceea passed I've been thinking about the situation, and wondering how, if something happened to me, I would get the word out here, so that people wouldn't just assume I vanished into the ether. My family doesn't know anything about this and if I passed suddenly I don't exactly have a 'inform everyone on the various message boards that I'm dead' option.
 I don't know. Maybe it's just me being morbid, or thinking about how so many of the forum 'old guard' have stepped out over the years - Haiz, Fimbulvarg, Laufey, Lazy8, and so many others - and how we don't really know what's happened to them in any detail.
If anyone has any ideas about this subject, please PM me.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: wavewright62 on July 27, 2019, 06:30:04 PM
I've just instituted a new ban, fingers crossed it works.  There seem to be at least a couple of websites that are just fronts for generating spam email addresses, ending in .xyz.  Example of lavarip.xyz website (found when I checked out the email domain of a new user who hadn't posted yet):
(https://i.imgur.com/EbB9xWn.png)

And here's one from darpun.xyz, looks like the same peer-reviewed ipso locum hokum to me:
(https://i.imgur.com/Qwj0Wij.png)

So I've banned .xyz hostnames, hoping it works?
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on January 17, 2020, 08:12:37 AM
These are all excellent poems.  I think you should take the spoiler off, though.  I've taken to heart a complaint someone made in the Art Museum thread, about their frustration in going back at another time and finding a work they loved.  They felt frustrated by having to stop, find the spoilers, and take time opening and closing them. 
For this work, a quick scan past would look like a reply post, and perhaps miss some mighty fine poetry.
YMMV.

... I wonder whether it would be possible to have spoiler tags that time out and deactivate (so that their content becomes normal text - or, in the case of the art topics, inline images - of the post) a certain time after posting? Or if the post is displayed within any but the last page of the topic, or somesuch?

P.S.: For sake of considering the merits, IIRC using the browser's search function (Ctl-F) does locate occurences of the keyword within spoilers, even if that spoiler has never been opened, though there's no hint that "thar it blows, but you'll have to open the spoiler to actually see it". But non-text spoiler content cannot be searched for, of course ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: viola on November 17, 2020, 02:26:28 PM
... I wonder whether it would be possible to have spoiler tags that time out and deactivate (so that their content becomes normal text - or, in the case of the art topics, inline images - of the post) a certain time after posting? Or if the post is displayed within any but the last page of the topic, or somesuch?

P.S.: For sake of considering the merits, IIRC using the browser's search function (Ctl-F) does locate occurences of the keyword within spoilers, even if that spoiler has never been opened, though there's no hint that "thar it blows, but you'll have to open the spoiler to actually see it". But non-text spoiler content cannot be searched for, of course ...

I am so sorry for not getting back to you in a timely manner. This isn't possible with the current forum features and available modifications. Someone would have to code a way of doing this, but it's a more complex issue because spoiler tags are not always used to hide spoilers, but are also used for a wide range of things, such as content warnings, so having timed spoilers would have to determine what exactly is in the spoiler tag and why, which might require a really advanced algorithm, or a human to look through it, and unfortunately we don't have that capacity right now.

The search function on the site is not the best, and improving it is something that I want to do, but it's very oddly set up. I think Eri has done some work on it in the past.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Bippity Boppity Boop on May 01, 2023, 10:01:08 AM
Would it be possible (and doable) to create a dark mode for the forum? Or does it already exist and have I simply missed it? I'd really appreciate one to reduce eye strain.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 01, 2023, 11:05:31 AM
Or does it already exist and have I simply missed it?
Do you see that yellow(!?) crescent moon at the right end of the page header? The one Lalli notices following the team around? ;) Try and click it ...
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Bippity Boppity Boop on May 01, 2023, 02:49:22 PM
Thanks a lot @JoB!! This is excellent. Now I only wish it didn't make the cast drawing in the header look so weird, but I suppose that that's a very minor nitpick.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: JoB on May 02, 2023, 04:26:41 AM
Now I only wish it didn't make the cast drawing in the header look so weird, but I suppose that that's a very minor nitpick.
Since it's "night", maybe it's TrollVision™? ;D
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: IndigoGollum on September 14, 2023, 10:22:14 PM
I'm not sure how easy it would be since it doesn't exist as an emoji in Unicode, but I'd like to see an Esperanto flag smiley as :eo:. I know Esperanto doesn't belong to any one country like most flags do, but from what I've seen in my short time here, most people just use flags to indicate languages.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Keep Looking on September 15, 2023, 08:44:05 AM
I'll see what I can do! We've got several custom emojis on here (added before my time) so adding an additional flag would be definitely possible. There are two broken emojis I need to fix anyway, so I'd be happy to add an esperanto flag as well.
Title: Re: Improvements
Post by: Keep Looking on September 15, 2023, 09:31:29 AM
It is done! It's uh... not the crispiest? But we have an esperanto emoji now :eo:

(I have also fixed the  :.D and  :.( emojis)