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Academy Board / Re: Writers' Corner
« Last post by Keep Looking on Today at 08:34:41 AM »
I think it's an interesting story type if done correctly, because it reflects a lot of real-life experiences where you don't exactly choose for something to happen, but life stuff happens and suddenly you are having to react to and deal with events you did not want or anticipate.

I feel like there are a lot of criticisms of "story where the protagonist just reacts to events and doesn't actively choose them", but like - people make choices in their reactions. Reactions of necessity to adverse events can tell you a lot about someone's character. There's something compelling about a narrative of survival.

Stories where the protagonist actively chooses to go into their situation often give the reader a kind of hero fantasy - "imagine if you had this power/agency, or made these choices, or were able to enact change in this way". I feel that stories where the protagonist reacts to adverse events prompt the reader to ask different questions of themselves, such as "what would I do if I was in their situation".

It's interesting, at any rate. Potentially the pushback against this type of story is something cultural - in western culture particularly I feel that we have ideas of individualism and particularly the power of individual choice and agency and enacting change. You have to have a character enacting agency over the story. Narratives of necessity give the individual less power over the circumstances they find themself in. Not necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion.
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Academy Board / Re: Writers' Corner
« Last post by LooNEY_DAC on May 18, 2024, 02:39:12 PM »
Resurrecting this thread to vomit out my thoughts on a specific story type that seems to me to be denigrated or disregarded entirely in modern "how to write" literature et al, sparked by the declaration at a panel at a conference for writers that "the hero must choose to commit to the story"; being a natural contrarian, I immediately thought, "when did Dorothy make any such 'choice' in the movie The Wizard of Oz?" So here's some less-than-coherent thought on the matter.

Narratives of necessity

Narratives of necessity: protagonist is thrust into the situation of having to act; if they chose something, the choice seemed innocuous until they were too far in to go back, or the choice wasn’t a choice; singular objective (usually “survive”); only way out is forward/through; important thing is: they are home at the end, whether original or made (why “horror twist” ending is unsatisfactory and unsatisfying); NOT Hero’s Journey for protagonist (maybe for side character(s))

Usual structure: prologue showing “normalcy”; disaster strikes/the gauntlet is thrown; alternating challenges and downtime; the last hurdle; ending (see below)

Variations include: multiple protagonists w/potential group problems; no bad guy; multiple bad guys; pick up allies on the way; pick up bad guys on the way; split group so intercut between plot lines

Ending 1: Back home: the protagonist has overcome everything thrown at him and returned to where he was at the beginning (probably improved circumstances).
Examples: the Wizard of Oz; Finding Nemo; Back to the Future; Forbidden Planet; Nothing but Trouble; TRON; Escape from NY/LA; XXX; Return from Witch Mountain; Minority Report; Star Trek (films); the Prisoner; Speed; Predator; Jurassic Park; Sean of the Dead; Commando; the Terminal; Krull; Hakon Hakonsen

Ending 2: Still trying: the protagonist has overcome the current obstacles, but still needs to make their way home.
Examples: Flash Gordon; Lost in Space; Sliders; ST:Voyager; Nowhere Man; the Lost Continent

Ending 3: Here to stay: see subtypes below.
A: the protagonist has overcome all the obstacles, but finds a compelling reason to stay/return.
Examples: Lone Star Planet; The Time Machine (film); Kindergarten Cop; American Dreamer
B: there was never any chance of returning, just surviving/building a new life for themselves.
Examples: Buck Rogers; Lord Kalvan; Planet of the Apes (film); Terminator franchise; Total Recall; the Running Man; Bourne franchise; Charade; most robinsonades
C: the whole point was to get away.
Examples: the Horse and His Boy; Escape to Witch Mountain; the Mysterious Island; Swiss Family Robinson

Ending 4: Everybody dies: Either the final obstacle requires a heroic sacrifice or there’s a twist ending (usually unsatisfying and unsatisfactory).
Examples: Impostor; Phantom of the Paradise; most zombie movies

Well, there's as much as I've articulated on the matter. Does anyone else have thoughts they wish to share?
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by JoB on May 13, 2024, 03:48:45 PM »
I also note that I managed to correctly spell "machine" exactly once out of four times on these Bingos...
I don't know what you're talking about, "Maschine" is the correct German spelling ... 8)
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by Mirasol on May 13, 2024, 07:58:12 AM »
Hm, I mean... not really, does it? :'D (I might have counted it though I don´t remember...)

I also note that I managed to correctly spell "machine" exactly once out of four times on these Bingos...
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by JoB on May 11, 2024, 04:41:13 PM »
... does Finland's entry count for "getting undressed" ... ?  :-X
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by Mirasol on May 11, 2024, 04:08:06 PM »
Well then let´s change that. I know it´s started by now, but in case anyone wants to join in?

My mom and I actually watched the semi-finals this year and noticed a few motives that kept popping up in the different entries.
So we made a Bingo-card out of them. (Plus some of the things that are always a classic at ESC).
Not supposed to be any sort of bad faith, just to have fun. :)

Bonuspoints if you get a Bingo on a single entry.

4x4 version:


5x5 version:
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General Discussion Board / Re: Eurovision Song contest
« Last post by JoB on May 11, 2024, 01:49:42 PM »
... I note that, less than 1.5h before the finale starts, the forum is unusually(?) silent about the event ... ?
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Writing Board / Re: The Forum's Scriptorium
« Last post by Grade E cat on May 08, 2024, 04:37:05 AM »
Poking my head on this forum after a long absence to inform anyone interested that I finally joined Archive of Our Own and started publishing there:
Maomao_the_cat's works
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Worlds & Stories Discussion Board / Re: Comic of the Month
« Last post by lwise on May 05, 2024, 07:07:05 PM »
If anyone is interested in landscape rendering -- this is computer assisted art but without any AI -- E-onsoftware's Vue and PlantFactory are now totally free with a perpetual license!  https://www.bentley.com/software/e-on-software-downloads/
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Worlds & Stories Discussion Board / Re: Comic of the Month
« Last post by Jitter on May 05, 2024, 03:13:12 PM »
Thanks Linebyline, I knew I could count on you!
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